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So were gonna ignore the fact Rashad own a red Brave Valkyrie and hasn't he even battled once with it an has Savior Valkryie too. I mean at least Lane battled a few times with First Uranus...
(Jul. 02, 2021  11:41 PM)LuinorShirosagi Wrote: [ -> ]So were gonna ignore the fact Rashad own a red Brave Valkyrie and hasn't he even battled once with it an has Savior Valkryie too. I mean at least Lane battled a few times with First Uranus...

yeah

(Jul. 02, 2021  11:41 PM)LuinorShirosagi Wrote: [ -> ]o wee gna nore te fat Rashad ow a ed Savior Uranus.
(Jun. 29, 2021  2:32 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jun. 28, 2021  9:40 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]Possible hot take: I think Burst should have had 10 minute episodes. My reasoning is that during the District and National Tournaments ant lots of times they felt drawn out, so being forced to work with small run time would make each episodes be more plot focused, because they don't have extra time to put filler in. More plot focus probably means more progression, which is the solution to the aforementioned problem.

Burst and Evolution made very good use of their runtime. Didn't feel stretched out at all. Everything that happened in the tournaments was necessary to move the story forward. Certain matches had to take place to progress to others and so on and so forth. That way it doesn't become a disjointed mess leaving us wondering how certain characters got to certain places.

When it comes to storytelling, a common bedrock principle is to progress character as the plot progress. Take the Regional Tournament for example, because Valt lost in the finals of the District, he had to compete in the regionals in order to try and win his way to a spot in the Nationals; that's a logical progression that makes perfect sense. During that particular arc though, Burst utilized it's runtime well to also progress character forward, we see this done with Valt, Hoji, and Daigo. 

In fact Daigo's arc is during this part of the season. It's because of the longer runtime we get an opportunity to delve into what's going on with the characters internally while also moving the plot along; we get to see Daigo's struggle with trailing behind Valt and later during his arc we seem him struggle with his guilt. We get to see Hoji struggling to reconcile his realtionship with Wakiya with his desire to beat him. They're able to spend time dealing with these things because they have more time. They're deepening character while keeping the story moving. Some viewers are more plot oriented, while some are more character driven viewers. It's usually a good idea when telling a story to balance both character and plot as the narrative progresses. 

This is something Burst, Evolution, and to a lesser, Rise do really well. As another example, during the District tournament, we get introduced to Ken, yes he's a competitor in the tournament, but because we have that twenty minute runtime, they have to time to round him out a character; we get to know his backstory, his personality and how he interacts with others, and it's because they established his backstory early on, that his character arc across the season works because we get to see where he started as a person to where he ends up. Another example of progressing character and plot forward. In addition because of that extra runtime we they were able to layer believably into Valt's growth both as a person and as blader. Seeing the training was excellent way to achieve that. Some other examples of progressing both plot and character at the same time.

Rise does this well, but to a lesser extent. Rise took the time to develop and grow their major characters; Dante, Delta, and Arman using this ten minute runtime, but the extent to which they were able to do so was limited. In addition we missed out on having the nice mini arcs for some of the side characters that Burst & Evolution had the runtime to employ. DB is an example of the trip falls of a limited runtime. Instead of progressing plot and character at the same time, they're stopping to do one while not doing the other. And in Sparking we barely got even a drip of character development or growth, due in part to the limited runtime, so while it more plot focused, it was lacking in character work. That's not using your storytelling time economically. So, all in all Burst & Evolution do a excellent job of putting their runtime to good use and in so doing progress character and plot forward at the same time in meanigful ways.

I agree with your statements here. No doubt, Evolution and Burst (beyblade burst season 1) were the best of the six seasons in using the runtime well and efficiently.
(Jul. 03, 2021  4:27 AM)Ryuga's Son Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jun. 29, 2021  2:32 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Burst and Evolution made very good use of their runtime. Didn't feel stretched out at all. Everything that happened in the tournaments was necessary to move the story forward. Certain matches had to take place to progress to others and so on and so forth. That way it doesn't become a disjointed mess leaving us wondering how certain characters got to certain places.

When it comes to storytelling, a common bedrock principle is to progress character as the plot progress. Take the Regional Tournament for example, because Valt lost in the finals of the District, he had to compete in the regionals in order to try and win his way to a spot in the Nationals; that's a logical progression that makes perfect sense. During that particular arc though, Burst utilized it's runtime well to also progress character forward, we see this done with Valt, Hoji, and Daigo. 

In fact Daigo's arc is during this part of the season. It's because of the longer runtime we get an opportunity to delve into what's going on with the characters internally while also moving the plot along; we get to see Daigo's struggle with trailing behind Valt and later during his arc we seem him struggle with his guilt. We get to see Hoji struggling to reconcile his realtionship with Wakiya with his desire to beat him. They're able to spend time dealing with these things because they have more time. They're deepening character while keeping the story moving. Some viewers are more plot oriented, while some are more character driven viewers. It's usually a good idea when telling a story to balance both character and plot as the narrative progresses. 

This is something Burst, Evolution, and to a lesser, Rise do really well. As another example, during the District tournament, we get introduced to Ken, yes he's a competitor in the tournament, but because we have that twenty minute runtime, they have to time to round him out a character; we get to know his backstory, his personality and how he interacts with others, and it's because they established his backstory early on, that his character arc across the season works because we get to see where he started as a person to where he ends up. Another example of progressing character and plot forward. In addition because of that extra runtime we they were able to layer believably into Valt's growth both as a person and as blader. Seeing the training was excellent way to achieve that. Some other examples of progressing both plot and character at the same time.

Rise does this well, but to a lesser extent. Rise took the time to develop and grow their major characters; Dante, Delta, and Arman using this ten minute runtime, but the extent to which they were able to do so was limited. In addition we missed out on having the nice mini arcs for some of the side characters that Burst & Evolution had the runtime to employ. DB is an example of the trip falls of a limited runtime. Instead of progressing plot and character at the same time, they're stopping to do one while not doing the other. And in Sparking we barely got even a drip of character development or growth, due in part to the limited runtime, so while it more plot focused, it was lacking in character work. That's not using your storytelling time economically. So, all in all Burst & Evolution do a excellent job of putting their runtime to good use and in so doing progress character and plot forward at the same time in meanigful ways.

I agree with your statements here. No doubt, Evolution and Burst (beyblade burst season 1) were the best of the six seasons in using the runtime well and efficiently.

Dynamite Battle is also turning out well
Ehhhhh, it depends. DB is great in using its runtime to work on the cast, but it's moving way too slowly in terms of plot. I mean, we're one quarter through the season and only got one single serious battle (Bell VS Free R2). Really hope they stop stretching out the story so much in the future..
(Jul. 03, 2021  11:57 AM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]Ehhhhh, it depends. DB is great in using its runtime to work on the cast, but it's moving way too slowly in terms of plot. I mean, we're one quarter through the season and only got one single serious battle (Bell VS Free R2). Really hope they stop stretching out the story so much in the future..

Talking about Free, how does nobody knows that Fafnir can spin steal (at least at first and idk if Bell did know, I didn't watched anything from DB yet)? I mean, Free is famous on beyblade and still everyone gets surprised that fafnir is speeding up...
(Jul. 03, 2021  12:22 PM)Hollowmind8 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 03, 2021  11:57 AM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]Ehhhhh, it depends. DB is great in using its runtime to work on the cast, but it's moving way too slowly in terms of plot. I mean, we're one quarter through the season and only got one single serious battle (Bell VS Free R2). Really hope they stop stretching out the story so much in the future..

Talking about Free, how does nobody knows that Fafnir can spin steal (at least at first and idk if Bell did know, I didn't watched anything from DB yet)? I mean, Free is famous on beyblade and still everyone gets surprised that fafnir is speeding up...

Bell's an exception because he's been living under a rock (the guy didn't know who Valt was until he met him in person), but for other Bladers like Ranzo who are supposed to Blade on a competitive level and know of teams like BC Sol, I can't find any explanation as to why he doesn't know how Fafnir works.
(Jul. 03, 2021  11:57 AM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]Ehhhhh, it depends. DB is great in using its runtime to work on the cast, but it's moving way too slowly in terms of plot. I mean, we're one quarter through the season and only got one single serious battle (Bell VS Free R2). Really hope they stop stretching out the story so much in the future..

They're not progressing plot and character forward at the same time which is honestly a weakness in the writing this season. I like the focus on character, but good stories progress character forward as they progress the plot.
(Jul. 03, 2021  1:22 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 03, 2021  11:57 AM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]Ehhhhh, it depends. DB is great in using its runtime to work on the cast, but it's moving way too slowly in terms of plot. I mean, we're one quarter through the season and only got one single serious battle (Bell VS Free R2). Really hope they stop stretching out the story so much in the future..

They're not progressing plot and character forward at the same time which is honestly a weakness in the writing this season. I like the focus on character, but good stories progress character forward as they progress the plot.

This. It seems like they can't progress both the characters and the plot together, and have to stop one to work on the other, which sometimes just doesn't work.
True Free is famous but not everyone would know about him and Fafnir's capabilities
(Jul. 03, 2021  1:30 PM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 03, 2021  1:22 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]They're not progressing plot and character forward at the same time which is honestly a weakness in the writing this season. I like the focus on character, but good stories progress character forward as they progress the plot.

This. It seems like they can't progress both the characters and the plot together, and have to stop one to work on the other, which sometimes just doesn't work.

Exactly. Good stories don't stop one in order to do the other. Good stories balance the two and move the story along while delivering on good character work. Progressing character as they progress plot.
July 3rd (today) is Rashad's birthday and we haven't even seen him battle yet XD
Just think it's funny.
(Jul. 03, 2021  4:27 AM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jun. 29, 2021  2:32 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Burst and Evolution made very good use of their runtime. Didn't feel stretched out at all. Everything that happened in the tournaments was necessary to move the story forward. Certain matches had to take place to progress to others and so on and so forth. That way it doesn't become a disjointed mess leaving us wondering how certain characters got to certain places.

When it comes to storytelling, a common bedrock principle is to progress character as the plot progress. Take the Regional Tournament for example, because Valt lost in the finals of the District, he had to compete in the regionals in order to try and win his way to a spot in the Nationals; that's a logical progression that makes perfect sense. During that particular arc though, Burst utilized it's runtime well to also progress character forward, we see this done with Valt, Hoji, and Daigo. 

In fact Daigo's arc is during this part of the season. It's because of the longer runtime we get an opportunity to delve into what's going on with the characters internally while also moving the plot along; we get to see Daigo's struggle with trailing behind Valt and later during his arc we seem him struggle with his guilt. We get to see Hoji struggling to reconcile his realtionship with Wakiya with his desire to beat him. They're able to spend time dealing with these things because they have more time. They're deepening character while keeping the story moving. Some viewers are more plot oriented, while some are more character driven viewers. It's usually a good idea when telling a story to balance both character and plot as the narrative progresses. 

This is something Burst, Evolution, and to a lesser, Rise do really well. As another example, during the District tournament, we get introduced to Ken, yes he's a competitor in the tournament, but because we have that twenty minute runtime, they have to time to round him out a character; we get to know his backstory, his personality and how he interacts with others, and it's because they established his backstory early on, that his character arc across the season works because we get to see where he started as a person to where he ends up. Another example of progressing character and plot forward. In addition because of that extra runtime we they were able to layer believably into Valt's growth both as a person and as blader. Seeing the training was excellent way to achieve that. Some other examples of progressing both plot and character at the same time.

Rise does this well, but to a lesser extent. Rise took the time to develop and grow their major characters; Dante, Delta, and Arman using this ten minute runtime, but the extent to which they were able to do so was limited. In addition we missed out on having the nice mini arcs for some of the side characters that Burst & Evolution had the runtime to employ. DB is an example of the trip falls of a limited runtime. Instead of progressing plot and character at the same time, they're stopping to do one while not doing the other. And in Sparking we barely got even a drip of character development or growth, due in part to the limited runtime, so while it more plot focused, it was lacking in character work. That's not using your storytelling time economically. So, all in all Burst & Evolution do a excellent job of putting their runtime to good use and in so doing progress character and plot forward at the same time in meanigful ways.

I agree with your statements here. No doubt, Evolution and Burst (beyblade burst season 1) were the best of the six seasons in using the runtime well and efficiently.
so true, so true

(Jul. 03, 2021  2:20 PM)Xeogran Wrote: [ -> ]July 3rd (today) is Rashad's birthday and we haven't even seen him battle yet XD
Just think it's funny.

lol ikr
(Jul. 03, 2021  2:23 PM)BladeKingX Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 03, 2021  4:27 AM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with your statements here. No doubt, Evolution and Burst (beyblade burst season 1) were the best of the six seasons in using the runtime well and efficiently.
so true, so true

(Jul. 03, 2021  2:20 PM)Xeogran Wrote: [ -> ]July 3rd (today) is Rashad's birthday and we haven't even seen him battle yet XD
Just think it's funny.

lol ikr

Hey, if you agree with people please use the star button on the bottom left corner of the post. It shows your agreement. 

A request to not answer "yes" and "I agree" to the discussions from my side perhaps?
Happy Birthday, Rashad Goodman!! Even tho you will turn evil we all still love ya (No we don't)
(Jul. 03, 2021  10:57 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: [ -> ]Happy Birthday, Rashad Goodman!! Even tho you will turn evil we all still love ya (No we don't)
(Jul. 03, 2021  10:57 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: [ -> ]Happy Birthday, Rashad Goodman!! Even tho you will turn evil we all still love ya (No we don't)

Hol up- Rashad's b-day is only two day's after Bell's...Coincidence? I think not.
(Jul. 03, 2021  11:17 PM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 03, 2021  10:57 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: [ -> ]Happy Birthday, Rashad Goodman!! Even tho you will turn evil we all still love ya (No we don't)

Hol up- Rashad's b-day is only two day's after Bell's...Coincidence? I think not.

XD
(Jul. 03, 2021  11:17 PM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 03, 2021  10:57 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: [ -> ]Happy Birthday, Rashad Goodman!! Even tho you will turn evil we all still love ya (No we don't)

Hol up- Rashad's b-day is only two day's after Bell's...Coincidence? I think not.

………….. XD
(Jul. 03, 2021  11:57 AM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]Ehhhhh, it depends. DB is great in using its runtime to work on the cast, but it's moving way too slowly in terms of plot. I mean, we're one quarter through the season and only got one single serious battle (Bell VS Free R2). Really hope they stop stretching out the story so much in the future..

DB needs a World Tournament or Cup, which would make it interesting...

(Jul. 03, 2021  11:21 PM)LegendJustice Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 03, 2021  11:17 PM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]Hol up- Rashad's b-day is only two day's after Bell's...Coincidence? I think not.

………….. XD

No single word posts allowed (stated in rules; I used to make same mistakes)
(Jul. 04, 2021  5:55 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 03, 2021  11:57 AM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]Ehhhhh, it depends. DB is great in using its runtime to work on the cast, but it's moving way too slowly in terms of plot. I mean, we're one quarter through the season and only got one single serious battle (Bell VS Free R2). Really hope they stop stretching out the story so much in the future..

DB needs a World Tournament or Cup, which would make it interesting...

(Jul. 03, 2021  11:21 PM)LegendJustice Wrote: [ -> ]………….. XD

No single word posts allowed (stated in rules; I used to make same mistakes)

Okay thanks!
Hi guys! Happy 4th of July to all of you!

I got strike on my channel once again and I was wondering if you guys still want me to upload Beyblade clips of your favorite parts or not?
(Jul. 04, 2021  8:06 PM)TeamRocketDJJ Wrote: [ -> ]Hi guys! Happy 4th of July to all of you!

I got strike on my channel once again and I was wondering if you guys still want me to upload Beyblade clips of your favorite parts or not?

Sure um try when Hikaru's resonance flares up for the first time (against Lui and Dante with Rantaro)
(Jul. 04, 2021  9:39 PM)BladeKingX Wrote: [ -> ]alright so now i would like to ask the question: what was your least favorite battle of sparking, and why?

Idk why, but Lane & Shu VS Free & Sisco pressed me off to no end when it first aired. A close second would be Lane VS Aiga, because that one was just blatant direspect to the latter (and was just generally really bad).
(Jul. 04, 2021  10:35 PM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 04, 2021  9:39 PM)BladeKingX Wrote: [ -> ]alright so now i would like to ask the question: what was your least favorite battle of sparking, and why?

Idk why, but Lane & Shu VS Free & Sisco pressed me off to no end when it first aired. A close second would be Lane VS Aiga, because that one was just blatant direspect to the latter (and was just generally really bad).

i can agree. i built up so much anger after Lane VS Aiga i really didn't understand: why not bring the sword or sheild ring
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