(Dec. 17, 2022 8:48 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 17, 2022 8:38 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]We don't really know what type of battle it was. Shu could have lost multiple times like In the anime which wracked up points or it could have been a rank up match where if Lane won he took Shu's place. All we know is that they battled. Not much else but I get what you mean though.
The things we actually do know is that it was defeating the 2nd ranked blader that allowed Lain to take Shu's spot. Wracking up a lot of points in multiple battles against Shu I don't think really fits given that Lain was all the way in A rank. I don't it's reasonable that if it was a point system, that he would get enough points to jump 14 ranks up just by battling Shu multiple times back to back. It would have to have been a rank up match, which is what it seems is the way you move up the ranks which is what I was getting across in my previous comment.
Yes I understand what you mean. That also seems to be the most logical way how lane ranked up so fast from A1 to S2 which is something I agree with you about 100 percent. But that one example isn't really solid enough to deny that it's a point based system. Just that rank up matches have a heavier bearing on the rankings compared to normal battles. If thats the case then valt would have lost his rank to last person he lost to.
But at the end of the day there is really no definitive answer just that the ranks change when the author decides to change or add to it. So it could be points just like most sports like God Dragruler said or it could be completely different. We really dont know. All we know for sure is that the Ranks represent where each blader stands in the world.
(Dec. 17, 2022 9:11 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 17, 2022 8:48 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]The things we actually do know is that it was defeating the 2nd ranked blader that allowed Lain to take Shu's spot. Wracking up a lot of points in multiple battles against Shu I don't think really fits given that Lain was all the way in A rank. I don't it's reasonable that if it was a point system, that he would get enough points to jump 14 ranks up just by battling Shu multiple times back to back. It would have to have been a rank up match, which is what it seems is the way you move up the ranks which is what I was getting across in my previous comment.
Yes I understand what you mean. That also seems to be the most logical way how lane ranked up so fast from A1 to S2 which is something I agree with you about 100 percent. But that one example isn't really solid enough to deny that it's a point based system. Just that rank up matches have a heavier bearing on the rankings compared to normal battles. If thats the case then valt would have lost his rank to last person he lost to.
But at the end of the day there is really no definitive answer just that the ranks change when the author decides to change or add to it. So it could be points just like most sports like God Dragruler said or it could be completely different. We really dont know. All we know for sure is that the Ranks represent where each blader stands in the world.
That isn't the only example. It was simply the one I used. We also see it in how Hikaru reached A rank #1. He had to defeat the previous A Rank 1 blader, Fubiki in order to take his spot, nothing to do with points, and that battle we see full on. Based on what we are shown, rank up matches is how people progress through the ranks, not via points.
(Dec. 17, 2022 10:02 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 17, 2022 9:11 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]Yes I understand what you mean. That also seems to be the most logical way how lane ranked up so fast from A1 to S2 which is something I agree with you about 100 percent. But that one example isn't really solid enough to deny that it's a point based system. Just that rank up matches have a heavier bearing on the rankings compared to normal battles. If thats the case then valt would have lost his rank to last person he lost to.
But at the end of the day there is really no definitive answer just that the ranks change when the author decides to change or add to it. So it could be points just like most sports like God Dragruler said or it could be completely different. We really dont know. All we know for sure is that the Ranks represent where each blader stands in the world.
That isn't the only example. It was simply the one I used. We also see it in how Hikaru reached A rank #1. He had to defeat the previous A Rank 1 blader, Fubiki in order to take his spot, nothing to do with points, and that battle we see full on. Based on what we are shown, rank up matches is how people progress through the ranks, not via points.
No that still proves my point. It was a special ranked match which allowed hikaru to claim his ranking if he won and if were going by that logic. Why didnt lane claim rank 4 or 5 by defeating free or lui? Why didnt bell claim the No.1 rank when he beat Valt? Why didnt hikaru not become the worlds best blader by winning the battle royal between 4 legends? By that logic every Lui, free, and Valt should not be in the big 5 as their ranks would have been taken by anyone they lost to.
(Dec. 17, 2022 10:16 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 17, 2022 10:02 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]That isn't the only example. It was simply the one I used. We also see it in how Hikaru reached A rank #1. He had to defeat the previous A Rank 1 blader, Fubiki in order to take his spot, nothing to do with points, and that battle we see full on. Based on what we are shown, rank up matches is how people progress through the ranks, not via points.
No that still proves my point. It was a special ranked match which allowed hikaru to claim his ranking if he won and by that logic Bell Should be ranked 1 and 2Â in the world by beating rashad and Valt, lane would be Rank 4Â and 5 by beating lui and free and Hikaru would have been ranked 1 by beating free, Valt, sisco and rantaro.
That's the point I was making. People rank up through rank up matches, not via points from what we've seen. The other battles you mentioned weren't confirmed to be rank up matches. Hikaru because A Rank #1 because he defeated Fubiki in a rank up match. That battle between Hikaru, Silas, Valt, Rantaro, and Free was simply a battle royale.
I also wanted to watch the original V-Force so I could see how they did the whole Wyatt thing myself
(Dec. 17, 2022 10:30 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 17, 2022 10:16 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]No that still proves my point. It was a special ranked match which allowed hikaru to claim his ranking if he won and by that logic Bell Should be ranked 1 and 2 in the world by beating rashad and Valt, lane would be Rank 4 and 5 by beating lui and free and Hikaru would have been ranked 1 by beating free, Valt, sisco and rantaro.
That's the point I was making. People rank up through rank up matches, not via points from what we've seen. The other battles you mentioned weren't confirmed to be rank up matches. Hikaru because A Rank #1 because he defeated Fubiki in a rank up match. That battle between Hikaru, Silas, Valt, Rantaro, and Free was simply a battle royale.
You do know official Battles are all ranking matches/effect rankings right? Thats why they are called official because they are all battles that take place in the Wbba league and have a overall effect on the rankings either if you win or lose. Placement battles, tournaments, small events, hosted matches all of those are official battles that effects rankings.Â
The reason why they hop in the rankings so fast is because these are
Special ranking matches which helps bladers rank up faster than normal official ones. Example the reason why lane bltized through the rankings was because he was doing the special rank up event rather than normal battles. Hikaru just like Lane participated in battles that can SkyRocket your rank. Under normal battles ranks dont blitz like that. Under normal circumstances beating someone usually doesnt grant you their rank unless your points are high, have enough wins, in a similar range. Like for example Valt Vs Rashad it was a title match not a special ranking match but still an official one which is how Valt reclaimed the No.1 rank because despite being No.2 Valt was still in close range with rashad.
The only time when ranks aren't effected is when the battle is either unofficial, an exhibition or if its a tie and the battle cant continue. Usually it all depends in what event you participate in. Some events grant more points, some events override previous ranks based on performance, and some are battles for direct ranks
(Dec. 17, 2022 10:30 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 17, 2022 10:16 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]No that still proves my point. It was a special ranked match which allowed hikaru to claim his ranking if he won and by that logic Bell Should be ranked 1 and 2 in the world by beating rashad and Valt, lane would be Rank 4 and 5 by beating lui and free and Hikaru would have been ranked 1 by beating free, Valt, sisco and rantaro.
That's the point I was making. People rank up through rank up matches, not via points from what we've seen. The other battles you mentioned weren't confirmed to be rank up matches. Hikaru because A Rank #1 because he defeated Fubiki in a rank up match. That battle between Hikaru, Silas, Valt, Rantaro, and Free was simply a battle royale.
Ok at this point we might as well just stop. You have your opinion on how the ranks work, and i have my opinion on how the ranks work lets just leave it at that because lets both be honest neither of us have a definitive answer on how the ranks actually work. Only the author knows how they work and even then they kinda change it at random sometimes. Plus burst is technically over so why would the ranks even matter. I feel like we were getting a bit heated over nothing really. We both like Valt, we have zero issues over the current ranks, were both chill and fine.
(Dec. 17, 2022 8:28 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 17, 2022 8:11 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]I think that's just how ranks works in general for real sports and other activities. Because everytime he mentions the rankings he usually gives examples of different sports from soccer, tennis, and chess (I think).
I'm not sure it's true in this case. For example Lain got up to rank 2 by defeating Shu not due to points if I recall.
It is a Ranking point system they reason why Lain got so far was because he kept batting anyone thats they reason they made thats meeting he was going around an beating loads of bladers which improve his Ranking plus him beating Free theirs even a panel of Wakiya explaining how you rank from lower to c, b and A by batting and getting points and hope to get a a shot at the Legends. Now as for the lain part to how he got the rank 2 well theirs a reason to why it can happen. First the most simple Shu couldve just directly bet his spot against. Now I dont know if anyone here Read prince of Tennis that story has a ranking system that work you can directly challenges an stronger guy for their spot (Which both party has to agree on or if the coach says so) After winning you get the spot while the other gets youre former spot or get kick out of the rank. It can happen, the other reason is well lain most likely had his points not far from the top 5 and simply wasnt acknowledge as a legend (fun fact he wasnt giving that title by the Haha). Because hiro went his way of showing us what rank lain was after he Got to A1 and we know he move up cause hikaru had rank up to A1 after beating aiga or Fubuki if my memory is correct don't remember which one but he was A1. Which means lain had already reach the legend just never acknowledge by the Legends or Hiro (cause it happen of panel). The other reason why lain got the #2 is well cause the plot required it lol. But it. But its likely to be he had to the point or shu put his rank on the Line a special case for lain anyway lain with both the Asahi Brothers were special case either way.
(Dec. 17, 2022 11:15 PM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 17, 2022 10:30 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]That's the point I was making. People rank up through rank up matches, not via points from what we've seen. The other battles you mentioned weren't confirmed to be rank up matches. Hikaru because A Rank #1 because he defeated Fubiki in a rank up match. That battle between Hikaru, Silas, Valt, Rantaro, and Free was simply a battle royale.
You do know official Battles are all ranking matches/effect rankings right? Thats why they are called official because they are all battles that take place in the Wbba league and have a overall effect on the rankings either if you win or lose. Placement battles, tournaments, small events, hosted matches all of those are official battles that effects rankings.Â
The reason why they hop in the rankings so fast is because these are Special ranking matches which helps bladers rank up faster than normal official ones. Example the reason why lane bltized through the rankings was because he was doing the special rank up event rather than normal battles. Hikaru just like Lane participated in battles that can SkyRocket your rank. Under normal battles ranks dont blitz like that. Under normal circumstances beating someone usually doesnt grant you their rank unless your points are high, have enough wins, in a similar range. Like for example Valt Vs Rashad it was a title match not a special ranking match but still an official one which is how Valt reclaimed the No.1 rank because despite being No.2 Valt was still in close range with rashad.
The only time when ranks aren't effected is when the battle is either unofficial, an exhibition or if its a tie and the battle cant continue. Usually it all depends in what event you participate in. Some events grant more points, some events override previous ranks based on performance, and some are battles for direct ranks
(Dec. 17, 2022 10:30 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]That's the point I was making. People rank up through rank up matches, not via points from what we've seen. The other battles you mentioned weren't confirmed to be rank up matches. Hikaru because A Rank #1 because he defeated Fubiki in a rank up match. That battle between Hikaru, Silas, Valt, Rantaro, and Free was simply a battle royale.
Ok at this point we might as well just stop. You have your opinion on how the ranks work, and i have my opinion on how the ranks work lets just leave it at that because lets both be honest neither of us have a definitive answer on how the ranks actually work. Only the author knows how they work and even then they kinda change it at random sometimes. Plus burst is technically over so why would the ranks even matter. I feel like we were getting a bit heated over nothing really. We both like Valt, we have zero issues over the current ranks, were both chill and fine.
We can agree to disagree. We're good. Just a friendly debate.
I don't care what anybody says, Hyuga (manga) should be in the Top 10 of the Legend Bladers.
One thing i hope to see from BU/Quadstrike is a proper Valt vs Lui and Aiga battle. Even if its just against one of them (preferably lui) then i’d be fine honestly. Lui has been one of the main bladers that the anime has always teased us with when it comes to Vs battles with Valt. As it always ends with Lui getting the upper hand or getting a tie. Plus Valt is the only protag to not beat Lui/Longinus on screen.
Whats something that everyone else wants to see in quadstrike?
(Dec. 18, 2022 3:43 AM)Phantom legend Wrote: [ -> ]One thing i hope to see from BU/Quadstrike is a proper Valt vs Lui and Aiga battle. Even if its just against one of them (preferably lui) then i’d be fine honestly. Lui has been one of the main bladers that the anime has always teased us with when it comes to Vs battles with Valt. As it always ends with Lui getting the upper hand or getting a tie. Plus Valt is the only protag to not beat Lui/Longinus on screen.
Whats something that everyone else wants to see in quadstrike?
What you just said is exactly what I want to see lol.
I also want to see Dante return and let it rip in the stadium. I'd love to see him teach Bel a thing or two with a good takedown.
(Dec. 17, 2022 7:56 PM)Dark red Wrote: [ -> ]4. "Blind's special moves are silly."
I'm sorry but whoever says this just dislikes creativity. Dread Vertical and Dread Gyro are such awesome and creative moves. And honestly, that makes Blind one of the greatest bladers I have ever seen in Burst. Sure, Blind got the worse win record out of the rest of the Bahamut users, but that is because he only battled against Delta and Drum, GT's strongest bladers. I felt like if Blind went against bladers like Fumiya, Lodin, Joe, or Pot, he would demolish them.
this is 100% fax. only people i've seen with the most creative moves is Phi, Blindt, and Payne and obviously the tag teams. Payne pulled off some unreal moves.
I know this will likely never happen, but I I'd love it if Boa returned.
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So does anyone find it weird how literally that nobody in the anime talks about how there are always a new owner for a older beyblade for example Valt and Shu didn’t even mention how Phi wasn’t owing Prominence Phoenix and this random dude named Payne was like they didn’t think about that. lol
(Dec. 18, 2022 5:14 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I know this will likely never happen, but I I'd love it if Boa returned.
I don't know why I just notified this, but metal fight doesn't have a place on the official site, or a site of its own that's I've seen.
Remember that fake rumor for beyblade burst season 6 when people actually thought the new season would be called Beyblade Burst ‘Xtreme’ lol
Anyone ever wondered what would happen if zero g was a success in Japan? My guess: A new mfb season that would serve as sort of a sequel to zero g with Zero still as main character but then again just a guess.
(Dec. 26, 2022 1:48 PM)Bey100 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone ever wondered what would happen if zero g was a success in Japan? My guess: A new mfb season that would serve as sort of a sequel to zero g with Zero still as main character but then again just a guess.
Zero G was supposed to be a longer series, but since the fans hated it, it was rushed and that's why it had 26 episodes. I don't think they would have made another season.
(Dec. 26, 2022 7:27 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 26, 2022 1:48 PM)Bey100 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone ever wondered what would happen if zero g was a success in Japan? My guess: A new mfb season that would serve as sort of a sequel to zero g with Zero still as main character but then again just a guess.
Zero G was supposed to be a longer series, but since the fans hated it, it was rushed and that's why it had 26 episodes. I don't think they would have made another season.
I mean I don’t see why they wouldn’t make another season if zero g succeed it’s like burst they milk the cash cow
(Dec. 26, 2022 7:57 PM)Bey100 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 26, 2022 7:27 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote: [ -> ]Zero G was supposed to be a longer series, but since the fans hated it, it was rushed and that's why it had 26 episodes. I don't think they would have made another season.
I mean I don’t see why they wouldn’t make another season if zero g succeed it’s like burst they milk the cash cow
Simple it was not continue cause it wasnt well receive they weren't making the money they wanted it was a failure for TT to the point their 2 or 3 beys that was an the anime wasnt made till this day. So they cancel it thats it
(Dec. 27, 2022 2:35 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 26, 2022 7:57 PM)Bey100 Wrote: [ -> ]I mean I don’t see why they wouldn’t make another season if zero g succeed it’s like burst they milk the cash cow
Simple it was not continue cause it wasnt well receive they weren't making the money they wanted it was a failure for TT to the point their 2 or 3 beys that was an the anime wasnt made till this day. So they cancel it thats it
I NEVER SAID THAT zero g was SUCCESSFUL I said what IF zero g was successful! I’m not dumb I know that zero g wasn’t well received and that’s why there wasn’t another season I said what if zero g was successful then there would most likely be another season Please read before you post
(Dec. 27, 2022 3:01 AM)Bey100 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 27, 2022 2:35 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]Simple it was not continue cause it wasnt well receive they weren't making the money they wanted it was a failure for TT to the point their 2 or 3 beys that was an the anime wasnt made till this day. So they cancel it thats it
I NEVER SAID THAT zero g was SUCCESSFUL I said what IF zero g was successful! I’m not dumb I know that zero g wasn’t well received and that’s why there wasn’t another season I said what if zero g was successful then there would most likely be another season Please read before you post
Dude, chill on the posts.
(Dec. 27, 2022 3:56 AM)Bey100 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 27, 2022 3:16 AM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, chill on the posts.
My bad I’ll chill out
Nah, bro, you're good. People nowadays be on some foolishness/garbage.
(Dec. 27, 2022 4:19 AM)Dark red Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 27, 2022 3:56 AM)Bey100 Wrote: [ -> ]My bad I’ll chill out
Nah, bro, you're good. People nowadays be on some foolishness/garbage.
Yeah lol I wasn’t trying t be rude I just get kind of annoyed when people don’t get easy things. It was pretty obvious that I was talking about what if zero g was successful yet some still think I’m talking about why there’s no mfb season 5 even though we all know why (most of us).