(Apr. 18, 2021 12:38 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 18, 2021 5:59 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry it took so long to answer was an the Middle of something. Now i don't mind you debating the z4 being stronger my issue is the way your doing it by using the he only draw cause of introductiin battle And not that his actually strong to do it or the fact that the show he was going toe to toe with valt, but when I counter it by saying the same could be applied with phi, laban And xhan (which even though houi was his first challenger to xcalibur true debut he still went on a beat both laban And aiga right after on the same episode that he introduced buster to the main cast to battle from the way i see it still counts as his debut battles since its an the same episode) you justified it by saying aiga was stronger at that time And they beat him faster without any plot reason (lets ignore their beys debut at that time) why is that an exuse to justified them winning their introduction battle even though its their introduction battle it doesnt matter of aiga was stronger or not the still won when its their first debut match (Real debut For buster). How Is saying lui is strong a trope when he is strong if it was phi, Gwyn, sisco, shu, free or anyone Who peform the same way i would've said the same thing. Both phi And hearts isnt that good of an example as well cause when phi first appeared even though it was out of nowhere he was an instant said to be super strong even compared to the champ And hearts as well was said to be very strong before he battle they didnt Just appeared And fight they butter us before they fight to be powerhouse. Having powerhouse coming out of nowhere is not something new at all they can be powerhouse somewhere but simple didnt fight that time thats nothing new. As for the Hiro wouldnt introduce him earlie to make him lose to newbie if he was that strong is the opposite aiga beating lui this early erase the his a newbie but a threat to be taking seriously are we going to ignore that aiga not only became japan but also asian #1? Or the fact that this same newbie was going toe to toe with valt in his first match And before someone goes on an say valt didnt have mastery of Valkyrie aiga was an the Same position they where on equal footing. Aiga went on an train For months than a character being introduced early or later doesnt effect their strenght . Went on an beat fubuki, ranjiro ect Who were all national levels aiga lost that newbie status after he did all that he wasnt a newbie when he battle lui. But at the end my main question why is it that lui's strenght solely based on introduction battle while the rest gets a pass when scaling instead of he was or they where that strong during their match not saying those thing doesnt happen but saying its solely on this downplays the battles . Plot armor wouldve been a better exuse. They scaling shouldn’t have those introduction exuse when comparing overall using the plot armor or a fluke/luck is the ones that should be use . Sorry if this was to long but it got long lol
I mean, in sparking Aiga lost the battle royale on his blader introduction episode right after he beat Hikaru and Wakiya eventually lost to the twins after they used twin strike on him so a introductory battle and episode should not be counted as the same thing since many characters actually lose during their introductory episodes. The z4 beating Aiga during their introductions is more justified than Lui tieing with Valt simply because they weren’t put in impossible situations. Whether or not Lui could tie with Valt, he definitely shouldn’t have seeing as that set a whole different standard that creates a plot hole. They didn’t pit Lui against Valt because they actually found them to be capable of tieing, they did it because they knew neither could lose. What in effectively trying to say is that particular battle shouldn’t count as evidence in Kui’s favour since it’s a gimmick battle for advertising the beys hence, Aiga defeating Lui even though Valt only managed to tie with him. The z4 on the other hand, or more so Laban has to fight both Suoh and Aiga in a non gimmicky battle and he beat them both on his own. This is done as a show of his power which is why he was pitted in such a way. As for Lui being said to be strong, I don’t think you understand what I was trying to say. First of all, Lui being a consistently powerful character is, in fact an anime trope seeing as his characteristics respond directly to that trope. Second, I was trying to say that “Lui always training to get stronger and getting scaled to Free” is not evidence he is better than the z4, more like opinion or your own statement. If we don’t see it in the animation, then there’s nothing to back up that claim. I was using Phi and Hyde as an example to disprove that point as well. Yes they were said to be strong in casual statements by background characters, but they didn’t need to be portrayed as strong in past season or scaled to characters to be better than Lui, I’m basically trying to tell you why Lui usually being a strong blader isn’t evidence that he’s better than the z4. Aiga being a natural doesn’t change the fact that Hiro introducing Lui first just to lose and never appear again wouldn’t make sense if he really was better than the z4. Even after the introduction battles, the z4 were still beating people and remained tough but Aiga should have had an easy time if Lui was really all that strong compared to them. Also, you said that I was basing his performance only off of his introduction battle but I wasn’t. I mentioned many times that he also best newbie level Aiga and the newbie level trio and I even provided evidence as to why Laban was better (when he beat Xhan and Fubuki). Heck, even Xhan beat Aiga in the episode right after his introduction episode. Aiga didn’t even bother training with Lui when trying to master Achilles, but he gladly visited Xhan, Laban and Kitt, and before you mention Free and Valt, they were doing their own thing. Even when Aiga became the Asian champion, he still lost the the z4 members because they were inherently stronger than most people evident by their rising status. The reason why I brought up Lui’s introduction battle was to prove that his tie with Valt isn’t evidence that he is better than the z4
Well i do believe that you are ignoring the actual dialogue between lui and aiga when lui lost. Lui himself admitted that he took aiga very lightly and that is why he lost.
(Apr. 18, 2021 12:59 PM)Vtryuga Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 18, 2021 12:38 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] I mean, in sparking Aiga lost the battle royale on his blader introduction episode right after he beat Hikaru and Wakiya eventually lost to the twins after they used twin strike on him so a introductory battle and episode should not be counted as the same thing since many characters actually lose during their introductory episodes. The z4 beating Aiga during their introductions is more justified than Lui tieing with Valt simply because they weren’t put in impossible situations. Whether or not Lui could tie with Valt, he definitely shouldn’t have seeing as that set a whole different standard that creates a plot hole. They didn’t pit Lui against Valt because they actually found them to be capable of tieing, they did it because they knew neither could lose. What in effectively trying to say is that particular battle shouldn’t count as evidence in Kui’s favour since it’s a gimmick battle for advertising the beys hence, Aiga defeating Lui even though Valt only managed to tie with him. The z4 on the other hand, or more so Laban has to fight both Suoh and Aiga in a non gimmicky battle and he beat them both on his own. This is done as a show of his power which is why he was pitted in such a way. As for Lui being said to be strong, I don’t think you understand what I was trying to say. First of all, Lui being a consistently powerful character is, in fact an anime trope seeing as his characteristics respond directly to that trope. Second, I was trying to say that “Lui always training to get stronger and getting scaled to Free” is not evidence he is better than the z4, more like opinion or your own statement. If we don’t see it in the animation, then there’s nothing to back up that claim. I was using Phi and Hyde as an example to disprove that point as well. Yes they were said to be strong in casual statements by background characters, but they didn’t need to be portrayed as strong in past season or scaled to characters to be better than Lui, I’m basically trying to tell you why Lui usually being a strong blader isn’t evidence that he’s better than the z4. Aiga being a natural doesn’t change the fact that Hiro introducing Lui first just to lose and never appear again wouldn’t make sense if he really was better than the z4. Even after the introduction battles, the z4 were still beating people and remained tough but Aiga should have had an easy time if Lui was really all that strong compared to them. Also, you said that I was basing his performance only off of his introduction battle but I wasn’t. I mentioned many times that he also best newbie level Aiga and the newbie level trio and I even provided evidence as to why Laban was better (when he beat Xhan and Fubuki). Heck, even Xhan beat Aiga in the episode right after his introduction episode. Aiga didn’t even bother training with Lui when trying to master Achilles, but he gladly visited Xhan, Laban and Kitt, and before you mention Free and Valt, they were doing their own thing. Even when Aiga became the Asian champion, he still lost the the z4 members because they were inherently stronger than most people evident by their rising status. The reason why I brought up Lui’s introduction battle was to prove that his tie with Valt isn’t evidence that he is better than the z4
Well i do believe that you are ignoring the actual dialogue between lui and aiga when lui lost. Lui himself admitted that he took aiga very lightly and that is why he lost.
Actually, Lui simply said “you pulled off a miracle” with a smirk on his face while Aiga said “it wasn’t a miracle.” Lui was obviously trying to semi-arrogantly undermine Aiga in a joking way while Aiga retorted back. It’s a comedic effect, he said something similar to Valt in s1.
Does anyone know where you can watch the full version of Burst Finish lol???? I saw it once like 4 years ago and I vaguely remember the lyrics and all, but I just can't find it.
The Strongest Blader in the World.
A Tribute of Sorts to Valt's Journey.
Cheers to everyone's favorite blueberry boi!
(Apr. 18, 2021 8:52 PM)Pixi Wrote: [ -> ]
I asked for the full version but thanks for you effort.
(Apr. 18, 2021 9:21 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 18, 2021 8:52 PM)Pixi Wrote: [ -> ]
I asked for the full version but thanks for you effort.
i dont think there is a "full version"
(Apr. 18, 2021 9:24 PM)Pixi Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 18, 2021 9:21 PM)Instarez Wrote: [ -> ]I asked for the full version but thanks for you effort.
i dont think there is a "full version"
There is, it's seemingly been lost too time though I guess. The lyrics for it are out there and I've heard it before.
Valt Went From a Complete noob to the best blader in the world
The muscular characters of Beyblade burst ranked based on their builds:
1st tier (the sarms tier 😂): Houi, Lodin, Xhaka
2nd tier: Ghasem, Silas, Kiyama Bros, Gabe
3rd tier: Lui
4th tier: Free (sometimes, usually when strained)
(Apr. 18, 2021 9:00 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]The Strongest Blader in the World.
A Tribute of Sorts to Valt's Journey.
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can we talk about how pretty slash's avatar looks like
(Apr. 18, 2021 11:17 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]The muscular characters of Beyblade burst ranked based on their builds:
1st tier (the sarms tier 😂): Houi, Lodin, Xhaka
2nd tier: Ghasem, Silas, Kiyama Bros, Gabe
3rd tier: Lui
4th tier: Free (sometimes, usually when strained)
Can we have a shoutout to Manga Wakiya, he was pretty jacked.
(Apr. 19, 2021 1:24 AM)Pixi Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 19, 2021 1:20 AM)ZionandBirddo Wrote: [ -> ]Can we have a shoutout to Manga Wakiya, he was pretty jacked.
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Sure why not, I would put him above Gabe and below Kiyama bros. Maybe above them too, not sure. The Kiyama’s have weaker core but better Biceps and Delts so I would keep them above.
kenta vs sora to the death
(Apr. 19, 2021 3:14 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 18, 2021 9:00 PM)Almirante W Wrote: [ -> ]O Blader mais forte do mundo.
Um tributo à jornada de Valt.
Como disse @ "Pixi": "O mais forte, mas não imbatível"
(Apr. 19, 2021 1:18 AM)Pixi Wrote: [ -> ]
podemos falar sobre como é o avatar do lindo slash
Galáxia
i don't want to be rude but what is the difference between "strongest in the world" and "invincible"
(Apr. 19, 2021 1:18 AM)Pixi Wrote: [ -> ]
can we talk about how pretty slash's avatar looks like
As bad as the Bey was irl, Slash Valkyrie's avatar is one of, if not the best Valkyrie to date.
And it's S P A R K L Y
(Apr. 19, 2021 5:26 PM)PinkRose Wrote: [ -> ]
(Apr. 19, 2021 1:18 AM)Pixi Wrote: [ -> ]
can we talk about how pretty slash's avatar looks like
As bad as the Bey was irl, Slash Valkyrie's avatar is one of, if not the best Valkyrie to date.
And it's S P A R K L Y
really like slash's avatar because of that cool movement it does with the sword
and yes, S P A R K L E S
(Apr. 19, 2021 5:24 PM)Edjelson Semedo Wrote: [ -> ] (Apr. 19, 2021 3:14 PM)Beyblade8986 Wrote: [ -> ]Como disse @ "Pixi": "O mais forte, mas não imbatível"
Galáxia
i don't want to be rude but what is the difference between "strongest in the world" and "invincible"
Because a lot fans says that Valt is the strongest and no one can't beat him wherever a lot of can beat him. I don't say that Valt isn't the Strongest, he is the strongest in World but not unbeatable
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