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(Oct. 31, 2020  4:46 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  4:44 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]true

But Rago defeated Tithi easily, right? And Ryuga could just steal his powers even if he couldn't win with his own powers.

How about Gingka vs Tithi?
Chris vs Faust?

1. Gingka
2. Faust
(Oct. 31, 2020  4:47 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  4:46 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: [ -> ]But Rago defeated Tithi easily, right? And Ryuga could just steal his powers even if he couldn't win with his own powers.

How about Gingka vs Tithi?
Chris vs Faust?

1. Gingka
2. Faust

Are you sure? Kyoua couldn't win against Tithi. The only way Gingka could have won against him would be by using his Galaxy Nova move.
And are you sure that Faust would defeat a legendary blader?
(Oct. 31, 2020  4:42 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  4:33 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]BD didn’t truly spin forever he said it in a way where he was exaggerating for emphasis, he just meant a really long time. Nonetheless the 4 seasons bladers  are definitely stronger than the solar system bladers so Chris would still win.

BD didn’t truly spin forever he said it in a way where he was exaggerating for emphasis, he just meant a really long time. Nonetheless the 4 seasons bladers  are definitely stronger than the solar system bladers so Chris would still win.

How are the 4 seasons bladers stronger than solar system bladers? Aguma defeated Kyoya and Gingka.

It’s because they are the ones that help the 5 solar bladers. In other words because they can channel the power of the very earth to help the solar bladers they are stronger.
How about Faust vs Tithi?
(Oct. 30, 2020  11:23 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 30, 2020  11:18 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Tyson isn’t really Ryuga 1.0, more like Ash beyblade 2.0/ gingka 1.0

He is Ryuga because he is also very strong, he has a left-rotating dragon bey that can steal Ryuga's powers and the wiki itself states that Tyson is the original series counterpart of Ryuga. Also, L-Drago series are based on Dragoon.

A left spinning Beyblade can't steal power from a left spinning Beyblade. They showed that in the King vs Ryuga battle.
(Oct. 31, 2020  8:26 PM)Flame-Byxis Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 30, 2020  11:23 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: [ -> ]He is Ryuga because he is also very strong, he has a left-rotating dragon bey that can steal powers and the wiki itself states that Tyson is the original series counterpart of Ryuga. Also, L-Drago series are based on Dragoon.

A left spinning Beyblade can't steal power from a left spinning Beyblade. They showed that in the King vs Ryuga battle.

It was a mistake. I have an annoying feature that automatically suggests words. I meant that Tyson has a left-rotating dragon bey that can steal powers.
(Oct. 31, 2020  8:46 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  8:26 PM)Flame-Byxis Wrote: [ -> ]A left spinning Beyblade can't steal power from a left spinning Beyblade. They showed that in the King vs Ryuga battle.

It was a mistake. I have an annoying feature that automatically suggests words. I meant that Tyson has a left-rotating dragon bey that can steal powers.
Dragon cannot steal power as it doesn’t posses rubber.
Why could Ryuga steal star fragments and King couldn’t?
(Oct. 31, 2020  8:55 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Why could Ryuga steal star fragments and King couldn’t?
Cause his bey had rubber on it. Ryuga’s power stealing was based off of the actual idea of spin stealing.
(Oct. 31, 2020  8:59 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  8:55 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Why could Ryuga steal star fragments and King couldn’t?
Cause his bey had rubber on it. Ryuga’s power stealing was based off of the actual idea of spin stealing.

Yeah, but why couldn’t Meteo do that? Why is it only destructor and why can he steal star fragments?
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:06 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  8:59 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Cause his bey had rubber on it. Ryuga’s power stealing was based off of the actual idea of spin stealing.

Yeah, but why couldn’t Meteo do that? Why is it only destructor and why can he steal star fragments?
Becuase Meteo L-Drago never fought any beys possessing star fragments (Yes he fought Gingka and Kyoya but Gingka and Kyoya possessing star fragments was not something that Ryuga knew of). The thing is, star fragments are ultimately large embodiments of power once they are inside the bey itself so like other sources of power they can be absorbed by L-Dragos rubber.
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:10 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:06 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, but why couldn’t Meteo do that? Why is it only destructor and why can he steal star fragments?
Becuase Meteo L-Drago never fought any beys possessing star fragments (at least not that Ryuga knew of). The thing is, the star fragments are large embodiments of power so like other sources of power they can be absorbed by L-Dragos rubber.

Didn’t all beys possess star fragments? Also why couldn’t he steal the power of Proto Nemesis (which in the animation spins left, but right against Ryuga)
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:11 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:10 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Becuase Meteo L-Drago never fought any beys possessing star fragments (at least not that Ryuga knew of). The thing is, the star fragments are large embodiments of power so like other sources of power they can be absorbed by L-Dragos rubber.

Didn’t all beys possess star fragments? Also why couldn’t he steal the power of Proto Nemesis (which in the animation spins left, but right against Ryuga)
All beys possessed part of the power of the star fragment but only a certain amount of beys had been directly hit, Gingka himself said that although not everyone has the power of a legendary blader they still contain some power of the fragment. Ryuga couldn’t steal Proto Nemesis’ powers because Nemesis has its own magical/supernatural power preventing that.
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:11 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Didn’t all beys possess star fragments? Also why couldn’t he steal the power of Proto Nemesis (which in the animation spins left, but right against Ryuga)
All beys possessed part of the power of the star fragment but only a certain amount of beys had been directly hit, Gingka himself said that although not everyone has the power of a legendary blader they still contain some power of the fragment. Ryuga couldn’t steal Proto Nemesis’ powers because Nemesis has its own magical power.

That’s funky. Thanks for the explanation, although I think it’s because Lightning could drain souls so maybe the Star fragment which Ryuga had allowed him the access to a similar ability.
I've never seen the original beyblade series. How would you guys rate Tyson's power as a blader?
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:26 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I've never seen the original beyblade series. How would you guys rate Tyson's power as a blader?

Probably the strongest Blader in all of beyblade history.
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:11 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Didn’t all beys possess star fragments? Also why couldn’t he steal the power of Proto Nemesis (which in the animation spins left, but right against Ryuga)
All beys possessed part of the power of the star fragment but only a certain amount of beys had been directly hit, Gingka himself said that although not everyone has the power of a legendary blader they still contain some power of the fragment. Ryuga couldn’t steal Proto Nemesis’ powers because Nemesis has its own magical/supernatural power preventing that.

The reason why Ryuga couldn't steal Nemesis power is because Nemesis had better power steal abilities.

(Oct. 31, 2020  9:24 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]All beys possessed part of the power of the star fragment but only a certain amount of beys had been directly hit, Gingka himself said that although not everyone has the power of a legendary blader they still contain some power of the fragment. Ryuga couldn’t steal Proto Nemesis’ powers because Nemesis has its own magical power.

That’s funky. Thanks for the explanation, although I think it’s because Lightning could drain souls so maybe the Star fragment which Ryuga had allowed him the access to a similar ability.

I also wonder about it. If Ryuga really got stronger after Lightning, he should have the ability to steal souls.
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:27 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:26 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I've never seen the original beyblade series. How would you guys rate Tyson's power as a blader?

Probably the strongest Blader in all of beyblade history.

as 6Jupiter say tyson is most likely the strongest blader in beyblade history his the definition of what peak strength is just like how kai is the 2nd strongest and strongest  rival to ever live in beyblade history.  this guys are what inspired true strength true monsters
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:35 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:27 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Probably the strongest Blader in all of beyblade history.

as 6Jupiter say tyson is most likely the strongest blader in beyblade history his the definition of what peak strength is just like how kai is the 2nd strongest and strongest  rival to ever live in beyblade history.  this guys are what inspired true strength true monsters

I agree with you
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:35 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:27 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Probably the strongest Blader in all of beyblade history.

as 6Jupiter say tyson is most likely the strongest blader in beyblade history his the definition of what peak strength is just like how kai is the 2nd strongest and strongest  rival to ever live in beyblade history.  this guys are what inspired true strength true monsters

Well Ash inspired the monsters as Tyson was inspired by him.

I would also say that Bakuten Shoot is stronger than MFB (ok maybe Gingka, Ryuga, and Nemesis could compete with them, but for the most part Bakuten shoot is unrivaled)
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:42 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:35 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]as 6Jupiter say tyson is most likely the strongest blader in beyblade history his the definition of what peak strength is just like how kai is the 2nd strongest and strongest  rival to ever live in beyblade history.  this guys are what inspired true strength true monsters

Well Ash inspired the monsters as Tyson was inspired by him.

that is true in both ways  ash has inspired a few monster in sports/game based anime
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:30 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:14 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]All beys possessed part of the power of the star fragment but only a certain amount of beys had been directly hit, Gingka himself said that although not everyone has the power of a legendary blader they still contain some power of the fragment. Ryuga couldn’t steal Proto Nemesis’ powers because Nemesis has its own magical/supernatural power preventing that.

The reason why Ryuga couldn't steal Nemesis power is because Nemesis had better power steal abilities.

(Oct. 31, 2020  9:24 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]That’s funky. Thanks for the explanation, although I think it’s because Lightning could drain souls so maybe the Star fragment which Ryuga had allowed him the access to a similar ability.

I also wonder about it. If Ryuga really got stronger after Lightning, he should have the ability to steal souls.
True but nemesis power stealing was not chased by anything and was more supernatural/magical than physical.
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:47 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:30 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: [ -> ]The reason why Ryuga couldn't steal Nemesis power is because Nemesis had better power steal abilities.


I also wonder about it. If Ryuga really got stronger after Lightning, he should have the ability to steal souls.
True but nemesis power stealing was not chased by anything and was more supernatural/magical than physical.

It was like Lightning L-Drago, just better.
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:51 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Oct. 31, 2020  9:47 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]True but nemesis power stealing was not chased by anything and was more supernatural/magical than physical.

It was like Lightning L-Drago, just better.
Yeah pretty much.
Maybe Ryuga saw no point in stealing others souls.
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