Everyone who likes the direction Shu's character development has been taking is Shu Kurenai kin. I don't make the rules, sorry
Alright so I saw Maruttis corocoro video and saw the final God series chapter and...
My god it was... very unfulfilling to say the least. I mean yeah... it is just the manga but there are many things that feel... incomplete. What ever happens to Alexander? Does he get arrested? Is he unhappy? Will he close down Snake Pit? Will he continue? Well we don't know because the manga doesn't show what happens to him after which is so lame. Shu is also instantly forgiven by Valt it seems, predictably despite all the things Shu did, such as: lying about his death to his friends, having no problem sending his friends down the pit, which was the very excuse he used to explain how he "died", so the implications were wrong. He also destroyed Lui's beyblade... on purpose, whereas Lui didn't on purpose. The last panel is just Valt standing in some dull background with gV... and he's already number 1 blader now? He hasn't beaten Lui yet which really bothers me.
Yeah overall this chapter was pretty lame honestly, I hope the anime doesn't do this. Oh and speaking of which, if Shu is also forgiven there too, then let's not forget that in addition to what he did in the manga, he destroyed mG, was a menace in Xhaka's beyclub, seemed to purposely destroy Valkyries Reboot. Need I bring up that he not only... LIED about his death... to his FRIENDS... just to get better at a game of (mostly) realistic spinning tops, but he sent them all to the pit, which is also what he initially used to explain his own "death"! Shu at least deserves... some punishment, or at least a lesson taught.
(Feb. 13, 2018 10:57 PM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]Alright so I saw Maruttis corocoro video and saw the final God series chapter and...
My god it was... very unfulfilling to say the least. I mean yeah... it is just the manga but there are many things that feel... incomplete. What ever happens to Alexander? Does he get arrested? Is he unhappy? Will he close down Snake Pit? Will he continue? Well we don't know because the manga doesn't show what happens to him after which is so lame. Shu is also instantly forgiven by Valt it seems, predictably despite all the things Shu did, such as: lying about his death to his friends, Â having no problem sending his friends down the pit, which was the very excuse he used to explain how he "died", so the implications were wrong. He also destroyed Lui's beyblade... on purpose, whereas Lui didn't on purpose. The last panel is just Valt standing in some dull background with gV... and he's already number 1 blader now? He hasn't beaten Lui yet which really bothers me.
Yeah overall this chapter was pretty lame honestly, I hope the anime doesn't do this. Oh and speaking of which, if Shu is also forgiven there too, then let's not forget that in addition to what he did in the manga, he destroyed mG, was a menace in Xhaka's beyclub, seemed to purposely destroy Valkyries Reboot. Need I bring up that he not only... LIED about his death... to his FRIENDS... just to get better at a game of (mostly) realistic spinning tops, but he sent them all to the pit, which is also what he initially used to explain his own "death"! Shu at least deserves... some punishment, or at least a lesson taught.
Lol lui broke legend spriggan on purpose just to provoked shu so that's invalid but the others your right but what did you expect shu being evil in the first place was just to give valt a reason to win the tournament without everyone being mad cause logically speaking valt wasn't even supposed to beat free an as for Valt being #1 makes since he doesn't need to beat lui for that Lui was destroyed by shu and Valt beat the former #1 so he doesn't need to beat lui anymore the only place for him to beat lui is at another national tournament not the world league anymore
(Feb. 13, 2018 11:20 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 13, 2018 10:57 PM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]Alright so I saw Maruttis corocoro video and saw the final God series chapter and...
My god it was... very unfulfilling to say the least. I mean yeah... it is just the manga but there are many things that feel... incomplete. What ever happens to Alexander? Does he get arrested? Is he unhappy? Will he close down Snake Pit? Will he continue? Well we don't know because the manga doesn't show what happens to him after which is so lame. Shu is also instantly forgiven by Valt it seems, predictably despite all the things Shu did, such as: lying about his death to his friends, Â having no problem sending his friends down the pit, which was the very excuse he used to explain how he "died", so the implications were wrong. He also destroyed Lui's beyblade... on purpose, whereas Lui didn't on purpose. The last panel is just Valt standing in some dull background with gV... and he's already number 1 blader now? He hasn't beaten Lui yet which really bothers me.
Yeah overall this chapter was pretty lame honestly, I hope the anime doesn't do this. Oh and speaking of which, if Shu is also forgiven there too, then let's not forget that in addition to what he did in the manga, he destroyed mG, was a menace in Xhaka's beyclub, seemed to purposely destroy Valkyries Reboot. Need I bring up that he not only... LIED about his death... to his FRIENDS... just to get better at a game of (mostly) realistic spinning tops, but he sent them all to the pit, which is also what he initially used to explain his own "death"! Shu at least deserves... some punishment, or at least a lesson taught.
Lol lui broke legend spriggan on purpose just to provoked shu so that's invalid but the others your right but what did you expect shu being evil in the first place was just to give valt a reason to win the tournament without everyone being mad cause logically speaking valt wasn't even supposed to beat free an as for Valt being #1 makes since he doesn't need to beat lui for that Lui was destroyed by shu and Valt beat the former #1 so he doesn't need to beat lui anymore the only place for him to beat lui is at another national tournament not the world league anymore
Oh so that was on purpose? That makes a bit more sense then. But for the rest there's no excusing that. No Shu doesn't have to be evil for Valt to win the tournament, sure it gives him more of a reason but Valt is a determined kid who wants to win anyway and he's going to win it via plot armour anyhow.
Lui did not break Storm Spriggan on purpose. He said after the battle that it "wasn't a real victory." I'm more inclined to believe he broke Legend Spriggan on purpose, since Shu was well and truly off the deep end by then. Can we end the stigma of Lui intentionally breaking S2? That was entirely down to Shu being stupid.
On the subject of the manga's ending, I like that they didn't let Shu win here. It would have validated all of the stupid edgelord stuff he's done this series and arguably since the very beginning. I think the Ashram plot is more important to the anime, so we might see it resolved there. I have a feeling they might bring back Ashram for Chouzetsu, but we'll just have to wait and see. I feel like Shu is getting off a little too easily for all the stuff he's done, but Valt is a forgiving bean, I don't think everyone else is going to let him off to that extent, haha.
On the subject of Chouzetsu, I've got a feeling the Zed Achilles blader is going to be a Daichi/Masamune type of character. Characters like that always seem to pop up when the main character becomes the #1, and they always have beys that sort of parallel to the main character's. (Dragoon/Gaia Dragoon, Pegasis/Unicorno, and now Valkyrie/Achilles) Achilles was the strongest warrior in greek lore, so I think it makes sense for it to parallel Valkyrie, which is designed like a generic knight on a horse bc the avatar designers were dumb, haha
(Feb. 14, 2018 12:23 AM)TrainiacJ Wrote: [ -> ]Lui did not break Storm Spriggan on purpose. He said after the battle that it "wasn't a real victory." I'm more inclined to believe he broke Legend Spriggan on purpose, since Shu was well and truly off the deep end by then. Can we end the stigma of Lui intentionally breaking S2? That was entirely down to Shu being stupid.
On the subject of the manga's ending, I like that they didn't let Shu win here. It would have validated all of the stupid edgelord stuff he's done this series and arguably since the very beginning. I think the Ashram plot is more important to the anime, so we might see it resolved there. I have a feeling they might bring back Ashram for Chouzetsu, but we'll just have to wait and see. I feel like Shu is getting off a little too easily for all the stuff he's done, but Valt is a forgiving bean, I don't think everyone else is going to let him off to that extent, haha.
On the subject of Chouzetsu, I've got a feeling the Zed Achilles blader is going to be a Daichi/Masamune type of character. Characters like that always seem to pop up when the main character becomes the #1, and they always have beys that sort of parallel to the main character's. (Dragoon/Gaia Dragoon, Pegasis/Unicorno, and now Valkyrie/Achilles) Achilles was the strongest warrior in greek lore, so I think it makes sense for it to parallel Valkyrie, which is designed like a generic knight on a horse bc the avatar designers were dumb, haha
We were talking about Legend Spriggan when he said that was the Spriggan Lui broke on purpose, not S2.
(Feb. 14, 2018 12:23 AM)TrainiacJ Wrote: [ -> ]Lui did not break Storm Spriggan on purpose. He said after the battle that it "wasn't a real victory." I'm more inclined to believe he broke Legend Spriggan on purpose, since Shu was well and truly off the deep end by then. Can we end the stigma of Lui intentionally breaking S2? That was entirely down to Shu being stupid.
On the subject of the manga's ending, I like that they didn't let Shu win here. It would have validated all of the stupid edgelord stuff he's done this series and arguably since the very beginning. I think the Ashram plot is more important to the anime, so we might see it resolved there. I have a feeling they might bring back Ashram for Chouzetsu, but we'll just have to wait and see. I feel like Shu is getting off a little too easily for all the stuff he's done, but Valt is a forgiving bean, I don't think everyone else is going to let him off to that extent, haha.
On the subject of Chouzetsu, I've got a feeling the Zed Achilles blader is going to be a Daichi/Masamune type of character. Characters like that always seem to pop up when the main character becomes the #1, and they always have beys that sort of parallel to the main character's. (Dragoon/Gaia Dragoon, Pegasis/Unicorno, and now Valkyrie/Achilles) Achilles was the strongest warrior in greek lore, so I think it makes sense for it to parallel Valkyrie, which is designed like a generic knight on a horse bc the avatar designers were dumb, haha
We are not talking about storm spriggan everyone knows he got the crack ever since the battle against Wakiya but legend spriggan was legit on purpose cause that's how Lui is he likes to provoked people as for the Shu things nobody's is gonna blame for two reasons in everyone's mind it's ashram fault plus the whole point was so that valt save him not blame him same for daina ,Wakiya and xhaka the won't blame him at all infact their more likely to understand him
(Feb. 14, 2018 12:05 AM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 13, 2018 11:20 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]Lol lui broke legend spriggan on purpose just to provoked shu so that's invalid but the others your right but what did you expect shu being evil in the first place was just to give valt a reason to win the tournament without everyone being mad cause logically speaking valt wasn't even supposed to beat free an as for Valt being #1 makes since he doesn't need to beat lui for that Lui was destroyed by shu and Valt beat the former #1 so he doesn't need to beat lui anymore the only place for him to beat lui is at another national tournament not the world league anymore
Oh so that was on purpose? That makes a bit more sense then. But for the rest there's no excusing that. No Shu doesn't have to be evil for Valt to win the tournament, sure it gives him more of a reason but Valt is a determined kid who wants to win anyway and he's going to win it via plot armour anyhow.
That's your point of view but not the writers clearly shu was made villain for many reasons #1 to get the people who didn't like him in season like me to like him in season two #2 shu being lost in power so that valt save him is a mean character job remember burst ain't like metal saga or the original weres there was evil person who threatened the world with beys supernatural powers so the have to create a villain to connect with the main character for him to be the hero and shu was the perfect choice to experience on at the end the writers encomplish what the wanted create a villain make shu more interesting plus the hero saving the day and being #1 at the same time
(Feb. 14, 2018 12:23 AM)TrainiacJ Wrote: [ -> ]Lui did not break Storm Spriggan on purpose. He said after the battle that it "wasn't a real victory." I'm more inclined to believe he broke Legend Spriggan on purpose, since Shu was well and truly off the deep end by then. Can we end the stigma of Lui intentionally breaking S2? That was entirely down to Shu being stupid.
On the subject of the manga's ending, I like that they didn't let Shu win here. It would have validated all of the stupid edgelord stuff he's done this series and arguably since the very beginning. I think the Ashram plot is more important to the anime, so we might see it resolved there. I have a feeling they might bring back Ashram for Chouzetsu, but we'll just have to wait and see. I feel like Shu is getting off a little too easily for all the stuff he's done, but Valt is a forgiving bean, I don't think everyone else is going to let him off to that extent, haha.
On the subject of Chouzetsu, I've got a feeling the Zed Achilles blader is going to be a Daichi/Masamune type of character. Characters like that always seem to pop up when the main character becomes the #1, and they always have beys that sort of parallel to the main character's. (Dragoon/Gaia Dragoon, Pegasis/Unicorno, and now Valkyrie/Achilles) Achilles was the strongest warrior in greek lore, so I think it makes sense for it to parallel Valkyrie, which is designed like a generic knight on a horse bc the avatar designers were dumb, haha
I was also thinking the owner of zA might be Burst's take on a Daichi/Masamune type character.
(Feb. 14, 2018 1:26 AM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb. 14, 2018 1:00 AM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]That's your point of view but not the writers clearly shu was made villain for many reasons #1 to get the people who didn't like him in season like me to like him in season two #2 shu being lost in power so that valt save him is a mean character job remember burst ain't like metal saga or the original weres there was evil person who threatened the world with beys supernatural powers so the have to create a villain to connect with the main character for him to be the hero and shu was the perfect choice to experience on at the end the writers encomplish what the wanted create a villain make shu more interesting plus the hero saving the day and being #1 at the same time
I disagree, Shu being evil wasn't made to please anyone who hated him, because there is some (albeit a dumb one) reason behind Shu's change, this was planned from the start, and it was most certainly not for the purposes of pleasing his haters. Yes I am very clearly aware that Burst isn't meant to be like Metal Saga or the Original trilogy, yet it is trying to be so that doesn't help. Sure, Valt's win was probably to save him, and I won't deny that Shu was a good choice for a villain, but one good choice doesn't save from his rather odd choices. The characters around him shouldn't have forgotten what he did, just because Shu looks like he's being "redeemed" after he lost to Valt, doesn't make everything he did okay or justifiable, it would've been better if Shu looked like he showed some remorse to those around him.
Like I said that's your opinion not the writers do know how many character from anime or manga was forgiven for even worse reason even if you were to make that logic it doesn't matter at the end the writers still wins while you may think it wasn't for the fans that turning shu evil make him likeable but there also people who will desegree with you cause the were few people who didn't like him before but it is what it is this has happened many times in anime or manga so it will not change now as for me I'm neutral about Shu turning evil or anti hero cause I've seen this many times but I just give my opinion of what I think most of the time but I'll say this shu being forgiven by everyone isn't the issue since valt has no problem at all now the thing that's gonna be interesting is how are they gonna write shu now how is he gonna go back to beyblade will he beyblade again, will he use spriggan again or change bey completely how Is he gonna fight whether is gonna use his old style which is very about tactics and perfection or keep his new style which is more intimidating and dominated or combined both that's the thing which might be interesting to see if the continued it
(Feb. 14, 2018 11:59 AM)Limetka Wrote: [ -> ]umm.. you guys forget that valt is THE world champion now and the shu thing is resolved. What the hell are they going to do for the 3rd season?
We're aware of that. The third season could have a new main character or reboot or alternate universe. Or it could be a series where Valt needs to sustain his win and essentially have it like G-Rev.
(Feb. 14, 2018 8:36 AM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]@[God Dragruler] Before you pull the "Brooklyn" card, I also found his easy forgiveness really dumb considering he almost destroyed the world, but I find Shu's more glaring. While Shu didn't do anything nearly as bad, I was hoping it was dealt more realistically or that they improved on that trope, knowing how Burst likes to do things a little differently. And I guess you could argue that Brooklyn looked possessed by his bit beast but I'm not really sure on that, though if he was then he gets the same excuse as Toby where he was brainwashed. Likely not though. But if it happens on any anime, whatever I suppose.
And once again, no I doubt the fans had anything to do with Shu's change, it was originally going to be changed anyway as there were many things in the first season leading up to this event, the Lui and Shu plot was clearly planned from the start, it's probably also why Valt was unsuccessful with his revenge against Lui. If you want to bring fans into this, then I doubt anyone asked for Valt to lose that final battle, given how mixed people were with that conclusion. The writers wouldn't just change Shu's character on a dime like that just because a handful of fans disliked his first one. Honestly this is what I'm sticking to, the writers don't just change a major character for fans.
I'm not contracting you shu turning evil was obvious since their were using lui as a fuel for this well anyway let's just say the writers got what the wanted killing two birds with one stone
(Feb. 14, 2018 11:59 AM)Limetka Wrote: [ -> ]umm.. you guys forget that valt is THE world champion now and the shu thing is resolved. What the hell are they going to do for the 3rd season?
Well that was the risk of letting Valt win this is the reason I prefer shu winning like this the would have an other solid plot let Valt win everything in the 3Rd season with less losses the could've resolve the shu thing even if Valt had lost but like jinbee said the could always do another national or world champion just to solidify valt as a champion like the g revolution or simply change main character like zero g we'll have to wait and see
Is it just me or is Drain Fafnirs stamina in the show really inconsistent? Like, sometimes it'll look very powerful and crazy strong and other times it doesn't hold up that well without spin stealing?
The times where Fafnir is shown to have seemingly good natural stamina is whenever it completely destroys an opponent, including Legend Spriggan which was left spin, but I guess it's possible to argue that it just increased his attack. In that case, his battle against Nightmare Longinus, he shows he is capable of holding his own without spin stealing and can last a pretty long battle against it. I feel that whenever Fafnir does show poor natural endurance, I can't help but think how Free was able to hold his ground against some opponents.
For examples showing his Fafnirs weaker natural stamina, he seems to lose stamina easily against his battle against Sisco in episode 34, and while you could argue that Sisco knocked his balance off a lot, the rollers were there to make sure nothing effected them and were used to prevent spin stealing, even then I would've thought Fafnir could've lasted longer in a stamina battle. There's also the battle against Joshua in ep 43, where Fafnir wasn't knocked off balance and the God Ability of Jinnius was used to avoid the effects of spin stealing and Fafnir managed to be outspun in a battle meant to avoid hard hits. If these examples aren't enough then how about a battle where a fully launched Fafnir fought Satan in episode 44? Both beyblades in the second round almost never touched at all which was Frees main strategy, by the end of the battle, a fully launched Fafnir only barely outspun a soft launched Satan. If Fafnir wasn't fully then, it was at least launched harder as it spun as strong as it usually does when fully launched, it was enough to circle around Satan and Free was aiming to stall than to spin steal.
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wtf Rantaro
Valt isn't the MC anymore or what? Also a brief timeskip, since his bro seems older now.
(Mar. 12, 2018 3:24 PM)Xeogran Wrote: [ -> ]
Poster for Season 3
wtf Rantaro
Valt isn't the MC anymore or what? Also a brief timeskip, since his bro seems older now.
Yup valt is out of the main character pictures
Imagine if Valt was the final opponent? So like the last episode is less about battling some mean or evil blader and more about surpassing a legend?
(Mar. 12, 2018 3:44 PM)Jinbee Wrote: [ -> ]Imagine if Valt was the final opponent? So like the last episode is less about battling some mean or evil blader and more about surpassing a legend?
 I hope so but beyblade doesn't seems to like leaving the evil blader out of the picture
what is this
How could they just split up Tokonatsu and Nika :c
Still looks interesting, though. Can't wait for S3 now
Finished the first Burst anime! Onward to Burst God/Evolution!