(Dec. 31, 2020 6:13 PM)Vtryuga Wrote: [ -> ]I honestly do not understand what is wrong when people in beyblade anime want to win and be the best like shu did? He did take it too far but his aim and objective was to be the best and not loose again which i believe is a worthy goal.
Doesnt this happen in other sports too (in real life at least)? So why is it generally frowned upon in burst?
i also remember when valt wasn't talking to free about how shu change and free simply responded he choose a different path then yours to get stronger it's that simply . even sisco was indifferent with how shu battle with viciousness during when reboot was destroyed and said if you want to get to him just battle and beat him. quite frankly both were right let's be honest shu did become vastly stronger and matter during his red eye days
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:17 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:15 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Cause they aren't in the anime. There are actual beings within the beys.......you know that right?
To the spectators they are just tops. We’ve seen examples in which beys are asking the user itself to use dark resonance (Phi) and nobody really cared that Arthur was using dark flux (in fact they were rather cool with it)
To the spectators they are tops, but they're just spectators not the players.
Guys Hitler was just really passionate about killing people I don't see the problem just let him do what he wants.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:14 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:12 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]well everything that looks like dark power is bad an 90% anime. it's always consider impure and evil plus it doesn't help that each time a dark power exist the character's are either evil or turn evil .
They aren’t evil per say, just more edgy really. Ot’s not like Phi was sitting on a chair petting a white kitten while trying to take over the world, he was just trying to have fun.
that's why I applied the it's considered evil for standard anime like I had zero issues with either shu or phi way of battle really hahaha . but at the end it's a kid show and the lesson can't be you can destroy a friend's bey to have that is a wrong example to give kids
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:18 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:17 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]To the spectators they are just tops. We’ve seen examples in which beys are asking the user itself to use dark resonance (Phi) and nobody really cared that Arthur was using dark flux (in fact they were rather cool with it)
To the spectators they are tops, but they're just spectators not the players.
Guys Hitler was just really passionate about killing people I don't see the problem just let him do what he wants.
I don’t think hitler’s a good example especially considering most of the genocide was hidden from even the German people until hitler’s death. Also there’s nothing really all too bad about dark resonance. Time and time again people have used other people to their breaking point and nobody spoke out so really there shouldn’t be a problem.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:21 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:14 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]They aren’t evil per say, just more edgy really. Ot’s not like Phi was sitting on a chair petting a white kitten while trying to take over the world, he was just trying to have fun.
that's why I applied the it's considered evil for standard anime like I had zero issues with either shu or phi way of battle really hahaha . but at the end it's a kid show and the lesson can't be you can destroy a friend's bey to have that is a wrong example to give kids
Shu was just being manipulated into being a super blader, he wasn't doing anything wrong. Phi on the other hand was ruining people days because he held a stupid grudge from when h was a kid. You see the problem?
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:22 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:18 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]To the spectators they are tops, but they're just spectators not the players.
Guys Hitler was just really passionate about killing people I don't see the problem just let him do what he wants.
I don’t think hitler’s a good example especially considering most of the genocide was hidden from even the German people until hitler’s death.
Well the impact of destroying tops isn't something that normal people know. The top is a body for the Avatar to inhabit. When you kill it its just lost in its own world not able to do anything, and simply waiting to be reincarnated, if it gets the chance.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:22 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:21 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]that's why I applied the it's considered evil for standard anime like I had zero issues with either shu or phi way of battle really hahaha . but at the end it's a kid show and the lesson can't be you can destroy a friend's bey to have that is a wrong example to give kids
Shu was just being manipulated into being a super blader, he wasn't doing anything wrong. Phi on the other hand was ruining people days because he held a stupid grudge from when h was a kid. You see the problem?
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:22 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t think hitler’s a good example especially considering most of the genocide was hidden from even the German people until hitler’s death.
Well the impact of destroying tops isn't something that normal people know. The top is a body for the Avatar to inhabit. When you kill it its just lost in its own world not able to do anything, and simply waiting to be reincarnated, if it gets the chance.
It’s not like the beys are being killed, nor is it implied they’re being killed. The avatars are really just an extension of the Blader that is created by a figment of the person’s imagination.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:25 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:22 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Shu was just being manipulated into being a super blader, he wasn't doing anything wrong. Phi on the other hand was ruining people days because he held a stupid grudge from when h was a kid. You see the problem?
Well the impact of destroying tops isn't something that normal people know. The top is a body for the Avatar to inhabit. When you kill it its just lost in its own world not able to do anything, and simply waiting to be reincarnated, if it gets the chance.
It’s not like the beys are being killed, nor is it implied they’re being killed. The avatars are really just an extension of the Blader that is created by a figment of the person’s imagination.
Uh, not the case. The whole idea of resonance is forming a connection with your bey. They are the partners for their bladers. Not a figment of the imagination. Dark resonance corrupts that bond and causes a blader to dominate instead of work with their bey.
it never honestly bother me shu was red eye as Eclipse Force said he was trying to get stronger and stronger he got just fixed the part his not distant to valt and I would bet no one would care, even if burst use things like law gilten would've been the person being bars lol. now phi is really a petty situation lol his definition of fun is weird lol .
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:25 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:22 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Shu was just being manipulated into being a super blader, he wasn't doing anything wrong. Phi on the other hand was ruining people days because he held a stupid grudge from when h was a kid. You see the problem?
Well the impact of destroying tops isn't something that normal people know. The top is a body for the Avatar to inhabit. When you kill it its just lost in its own world not able to do anything, and simply waiting to be reincarnated, if it gets the chance.
It’s not like the beys are being killed, nor is it implied they’re being killed. The avatars are really just an extension of the Blader that is created by a figment of the person’s imagination.
Imagination? What?
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:30 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: [ -> ]it never honestly bother me shu was red eye as Eclipse Force said he was trying to get stronger and stronger he got. even if burst use things like law gilten would've been the person being bars lol. now phi is really a petty situation lol his definition of fun is weird lol .
Yeah Shu just wanted to get stronger but Ashtem made him do some weird stuff cause of it. Phi's definition of fun is just messed up.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:28 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:25 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]It’s not like the beys are being killed, nor is it implied they’re being killed. The avatars are really just an extension of the Blader that is created by a figment of the person’s imagination.
Uh, not the case. The whole idea of resonance is forming a connection with your bey. They are the partners for their bladers. Not a figment of the imagination. Dark resonance corrupts that bond and causes a blader to dominate instead of work with their bey.
If the bey is created without a certain creature in mind what would happen? I have a theory and that is that the bey wouldn’t have an avatar. If you want to be successful in a sport you have to dominate and it’s literally right in front of the blader. If I was someone who wanted to get rich fast then I would get a dark resonance. Even so, why are others concerned about it and why are those who have it ostracized from the player “community”?
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:32 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:28 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Uh, not the case. The whole idea of resonance is forming a connection with your bey. They are the partners for their bladers. Not a figment of the imagination. Dark resonance corrupts that bond and causes a blader to dominate instead of work with their bey.
If the bey is created without a certain creature in mind what would happen? I have a theory and that is that the bey wouldn’t have an avatar. If you want to be successful in a sport you have to dominate and it’s literally right in front of the blader. If I was someone who wanted to get rich fast then I would get a dark resonance. Even so, why are others concerned about it and why are those who have it ostracized from the player “community”?
It would still have an avatar. You can have a connection to your bey without an avatar, however seeing the being inside comes with a deeper connection. Evipero and its blader have a good connection where they worked in sync but we never saw its avatar. Every other no name blader is able to make their bey move in certain ways. Also the people that have Dark Resonance are literally evil, thats it. You get dark resonance by being evil, so if you have it you are evil. Phi broke peoples beys (and in extension their dreams), Arthur literally wanted to take over the WBBA.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:36 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:32 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]If the bey is created without a certain creature in mind what would happen? I have a theory and that is that the bey wouldn’t have an avatar. If you want to be successful in a sport you have to dominate and it’s literally right in front of the blader. If I was someone who wanted to get rich fast then I would get a dark resonance. Even so, why are others concerned about it and why are those who have it ostracized from the player “community”?
It would still have an avatar. You can have a connection to your bey without an avatar, however seeing the being inside comes with a deeper connection. Evipero and its blader have a good connection where they worked in sync but we never saw its avatar. Every other no name blader is able to make their bey move in certain ways. Also the people that have Dark Resonance are literally evil, thats it. You get dark resonance by being evil, so if you have it you are evil. Phi broke peoples beys (and in extension their dreams), Arthur literally wanted to take over the WBBA.
Still not answering why the player community just straight up hates them for being good.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:39 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:36 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]It would still have an avatar. You can have a connection to your bey without an avatar, however seeing the being inside comes with a deeper connection. Evipero and its blader have a good connection where they worked in sync but we never saw its avatar. Every other no name blader is able to make their bey move in certain ways. Also the people that have Dark Resonance are literally evil, thats it. You get dark resonance by being evil, so if you have it you are evil. Phi broke peoples beys (and in extension their dreams), Arthur literally wanted to take over the WBBA.
Still not answering why the player community just straight up hates them for being good.
I already said it, they're evil. You only get Dark Resonance by being evil in the first place.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:32 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:28 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Uh, not the case. The whole idea of resonance is forming a connection with your bey. They are the partners for their bladers. Not a figment of the imagination. Dark resonance corrupts that bond and causes a blader to dominate instead of work with their bey.
If the bey is created without a certain creature in mind what would happen? I have a theory and that is that the bey wouldn’t have an avatar. If you want to be successful in a sport you have to dominate and it’s literally right in front of the blader. If I was someone who wanted to get rich fast then I would get a dark resonance. Even so, why are others concerned about it and why are those who have it ostracized from the player “community”?
The avatars that reside in the beys are not the creation of the blader. Beys choose their bladers. It's not a figment of their imagination. Dominating your partner is not what true resonance is about. It can be illustrated similarly to how someone treats a friend. Harshly dominating your friend is never acceptable. It's the same between a blader and bey. The whole point is to work together and the stronger the bond between the two, the stronger you can become.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:42 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:32 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]If the bey is created without a certain creature in mind what would happen? I have a theory and that is that the bey wouldn’t have an avatar. If you want to be successful in a sport you have to dominate and it’s literally right in front of the blader. If I was someone who wanted to get rich fast then I would get a dark resonance. Even so, why are others concerned about it and why are those who have it ostracized from the player “community”?
The avatars that reside in the beys are not the creation of the blader. Beys choose their bladers. Dominating your partner is not what true resonance is about. It can be illustrated similarly to how someone treats a friend. Harshly dominating your friend is never acceptable. It's the same between a blader and bey. The whole point is to work together and the stronger the bond between the two, the stronger you can become.
Imagine if you hospitalized your friend cause u wanna win a sports championship.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:44 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:42 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]The avatars that reside in the beys are not the creation of the blader. Beys choose their bladers. Dominating your partner is not what true resonance is about. It can be illustrated similarly to how someone treats a friend. Harshly dominating your friend is never acceptable. It's the same between a blader and bey. The whole point is to work together and the stronger the bond between the two, the stronger you can become.
Imagine if you hospitalized your friend cause u wanna win a sports championship.
Exactly. Who would treat that as acceptable behavior?
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:44 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:42 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]The avatars that reside in the beys are not the creation of the blader. Beys choose their bladers. Dominating your partner is not what true resonance is about. It can be illustrated similarly to how someone treats a friend. Harshly dominating your friend is never acceptable. It's the same between a blader and bey. The whole point is to work together and the stronger the bond between the two, the stronger you can become.
Imagine if you hospitalized your friend cause u wanna win a sports championship.
Its like how Achilles felt, he wasn't able to speak to aiger anymore.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:44 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:42 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]The avatars that reside in the beys are not the creation of the blader. Beys choose their bladers. Dominating your partner is not what true resonance is about. It can be illustrated similarly to how someone treats a friend. Harshly dominating your friend is never acceptable. It's the same between a blader and bey. The whole point is to work together and the stronger the bond between the two, the stronger you can become.
Imagine if you hospitalized your friend cause u wanna win a sports championship.
Phi used Dark resonance for so long and yet his bey didn’t break once.
Arthur was mostly the one with real evil attentions he wanted to get the wbba to make it in his own image and supposedly get other stronger. although no one asked him to he was ruining the fun of kids lol . that's why I always think Arthur was wasted had potential in gt .
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:45 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:44 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Imagine if you hospitalized your friend cause u wanna win a sports championship.
Phi used Dark resonance for so long and yet his bey didn’t break once.
He doesn't have dark resonance per say. he and his bey both want to do one thing, destroy the others, making it a fairly healthy relationship. His beys aura is just a dark colors. doesn't make it any better though.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:45 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:44 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Imagine if you hospitalized your friend cause u wanna win a sports championship.
Phi used Dark resonance for so long and yet his bey didn’t break once.
He was breaking others beys, severing their bonds with their partners for his own amusement. Not acceptable. Doing so also causes your own bey pain.
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:46 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:45 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Phi used Dark resonance for so long and yet his bey didn’t break once.
He doesn't have dark resonance per say. he and his bey both want to do one thing, destroy the others, making it a fairly healthy relationship. His beys aura is just a dark colors. doesn't make it any better though.
Pretty sure it’s implied that they have dark resonance several times.
Phi wasn't dominating his bey right, they both had the same intentions?
(Dec. 31, 2020 6:47 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 31, 2020 6:45 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Phi used Dark resonance for so long and yet his bey didn’t break once.
He was breaking others beys, severing their bonds with their partners for his own amusement. Not acceptable.
Part of the contract for joining the sport.