(Dec. 27, 2020 9:09 PM)TrustBEE Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 27, 2020 9:05 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]1. Out of all places it just conveniently managed to make it on the speed rails sounds like a lot of plot armor to me not to mention the speed cradles take up only a fraction of the space of the stadium
2. Not true, Valt should’ve lost besides how would launching once more or even twice more have harmed him realistically
3. That arguement fails simply because we haven’t seen how strong dark resonance is or the full potential of dark resonance
(Dec. 27, 2020 9:07 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]1. Getting hit to the speed cradles is a common occurrence.
2. He had already strained his body passed its limits. Launching more would pull more muscles.
3. Dark resonance in itself it just plot armor. It can go to limitless strengths if the plot wants it, making dark resonance bad. Aiger just gaining a random booster of dark resonance is an example of that plot armor.
When your bey speeds up that can activate centrifugal force, thats just how it works.
No it doesn’t, not in reality which the anime should follow when it comes to the stadium’s physics- NO UMM 🤔 I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS CALLED BUT YEAH!
It does though. Centrifugal force also pulls out Roktavor's wind more, creating things like Ranjiro's powered up tornado in Turbo. When a bey speeds up it spins faster, when it spins alot centrifugal force happens. Same thing happens in real life.
When Roktavor and Lucius are launched off the launchers they start spinning, pulling out the wings and barrier.
(Dec. 27, 2020 9:11 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 27, 2020 9:09 PM)TrustBEE Wrote: [ -> ]No it doesn’t, not in reality which the anime should follow when it comes to the stadium’s physics- NO UMM 🤔 I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS CALLED BUT YEAH!
It does though. Centrifugal force also pulls out Roktavor's wind more, creating things like Ranjiro's powered up tornado in Turbo. When a bey speeds up it spins faster, when it spins alot centrifugal force happens. Same thing happens in real life.
When Roktavor and Lucius are launched off the launchers they start spinning, pulling out the wings and barrier.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh😮😮 I didn’t realize that before!🤔🤔 Thank you brother😎🙏.
how does lucifers blades allways stay out in anime matches
(Dec. 27, 2020 9:17 PM)SSJ_Emani212 Wrote: [ -> ]how does lucifers blades allways stay out in anime matches
Cause thats how it works?????
(Dec. 27, 2020 9:18 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 27, 2020 9:17 PM)SSJ_Emani212 Wrote: [ -> ]how does lucifers blades allways stay out in anime matches
Cause thats how it works?????
and after all those matches before it got a new form they still dont fall off
(Dec. 27, 2020 9:20 PM)SSJ_Emani212 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 27, 2020 9:18 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Cause thats how it works?????
and after all those matches before it got a new form they still dont fall off
Why would they fall off. Do they even fall off irl?
(Dec. 27, 2020 9:22 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 27, 2020 9:20 PM)SSJ_Emani212 Wrote: [ -> ]and after all those matches before it got a new form they still dont fall off
Why would they fall off. Do they even fall off irl?
they do come off irl and its quote en quote "awakened"
(Dec. 27, 2020 9:11 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 27, 2020 9:09 PM)TrustBEE Wrote: [ -> ]No it doesn’t, not in reality which the anime should follow when it comes to the stadium’s physics- NO UMM 🤔 I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS CALLED BUT YEAH!
It does though. Centrifugal force also pulls out Roktavor's wind more, creating things like Ranjiro's powered up tornado in Turbo. When a bey speeds up it spins faster, when it spins alot centrifugal force happens. Same thing happens in real life.
When Roktavor and Lucius are launched off the launchers they start spinning, pulling out the wings and barrier.
OK NAH BUT WAS PLOT ARMOR WAS MAKING AIGA JUMP STRAIGHT INTO LANES ATTACK, AIGA WOULD NEVER DO THAT! There’s no way the same aiga that beat phi actually thought that he could blow an attack like that away, he would’ve sped up and dodged it and not use a special attack thinking he was gonna win that power struggle at that angle and his bey that burstable
(Dec. 27, 2020 9:30 PM)TrustBEE Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 27, 2020 9:11 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]It does though. Centrifugal force also pulls out Roktavor's wind more, creating things like Ranjiro's powered up tornado in Turbo. When a bey speeds up it spins faster, when it spins alot centrifugal force happens. Same thing happens in real life.
When Roktavor and Lucius are launched off the launchers they start spinning, pulling out the wings and barrier.
OK NAH BUT WAS PLOT ARMOR WAS MAKING AIGA JUMP STRAIGHT INTO LANES ATTACK, AIGA WOULD NEVER DO THAT! There’s no way the same aiga that beat phi actually thought that he could blow an attack like that away, he would’ve sped up and dodged it and not use a special attack thinking he was gonna win that power struggle at that angle and his bey that burstable
Dodging would prolong the inevitable, every Beyblade battle has tons of clashing.
(Dec. 27, 2020 9:28 PM)SSJ_Emani212 Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 27, 2020 9:22 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Why would they fall off. Do they even fall off irl?
they do come off irl and its quote en quote "awakened"
Well thats an irl only thing than, its also not meant to happen.
Hot Take: Everyone defeated by Variant Wall deserved it. A simple move that could be easily defeated. The rubber blades usually get pushed in slightly, but no one ever broke all the way through, so it the flexibility would rebound back while the sheer friction would burst the opponent or something weird like that.
Ok, I don't really believe the deserving part, but the move is ingeniously simple. Hit barrier, barrier hit back harder.
(Dec. 27, 2020 11:30 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]Hot Take: Everyone defeated by Variant Wall deserved it. A simple move that could be easily defeated. The rubber blades usually get pushed in slightly, but no one ever broke all the way through, so it the flexibility would rebound back while the sheer friction would burst the opponent or something weird like that.
Ok, I don't really believe the deserving part, but the move is ingeniously simple. Hit barrier, barrier hit back harder.
YES that’s something I noticed when Lui and Silas were facing him.
Aiger's character in the manga is good I think.
So in the manga Aiger has just beating Free by applying the logic where big hit on rubber absorbs the impact, but big hit not on rubber hurts, simple enough. Land a big hit without Free letting Fafnir absorb it. Anyways everyone's celebrating his win and Aiger's like I'm the stronger I'm the greatest. Ranjiro brings up how Achilles is so strong and it even beat Fafnir, but this gets Aiger angry. He says that its because of his strength and skill that Achilles is beating people, and no one should be saying otherwise. The others are off put by his sudden hostile persona and Ranjiro says he didn't say the contrary.
Anyways Aiger's go on about who he's the greatest and that he can even beat Valt, funny enough Valt's right behind him chowing down on some grub. Aiger challenges Valt saying he wants to sight Valt now. Valt tells Aiger there's no need to worry and if he triumphs over his other adversaries he will be able to face him. But Aiger's had enough, and he says he sick of having to wait when he can just crush Valt right now. As we can see all the winning is getting to his head.
Valt gets concerned and asks Aiger if he meant what he said when he was talking about how only HIS strength made it possible for him to win. Aiger confirms this and says Yeah, its cause I'm strong Achilles was able to beat the opposing beys. Valt says if you think thats true, he might as well have no chance beating him and Valtryek. Aiger gets mad and battle ensues. During the battle he's losing to Valt's evolved bey Turbo Valtryek. he's getting pummled and tells Achilles to unleash his strength so he can win. He pushes Achilles forward only for it to keep getting cracked. Valt says it doesn't want to lend its strength to Aiger, but he's to far gone and ain't focusing on anything Valt's said.
Aiger confronts Achilles and says why its not doing anything to try and win, but no response is giving and Valtryek smashes through Achilles, breaking it. Anyways Aiger is distressed and the breakage makes him realize that he was being a big dumb idiot, and its only blader and bey working together that can make resonance. Not only that but he was in over his head and the win against Free got to his head, and he still has a long way to go.
Pretty good writing imo. Thoughts?
(Dec. 28, 2020 12:43 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Aiger's character in the manga is good I think.
So in the manga Aiger has just beating Free by applying the logic where big hit on rubber absorbs the impact, but big hit not on rubber hurts, simple enough. Land a big hit without Free letting Fafnir absorb it. Anyways everyone's celebrating his win and Aiger's like I'm the stronger I'm the greatest. Ranjiro brings up how Achilles is so strong and it even beat Fafnir, but this gets Aiger angry. He says that its because of his strength and skill that Achilles is beating people, and no one should be saying otherwise. The others are off put by his sudden hostile persona and Ranjiro says he didn't say the contrary.
Anyways Aiger's go on about who he's the greatest and that he can even beat Valt, funny enough Valt's right behind him chowing down on some grub. Aiger challenges Valt saying he wants to sight Valt now. Valt tells Aiger there's no need to worry and if he triumphs over his other adversaries he will be able to face him. But Aiger's had enough, and he says he sick of having to wait when he can just crush Valt right now. As we can see all the winning is getting to his head.
Valt gets concerned and asks Aiger if he meant what he said when he was talking about how only HIS strength made it possible for him to win. Aiger confirms this and says Yeah, its cause I'm strong Achilles was able to beat the opposing beys. Valt says if you think thats true, he might as well have no chance beating him and Valtryek. Aiger gets mad and battle ensues. During the battle he's losing to Valt's evolved bey Turbo Valtryek. he's getting pummled and tells Achilles to unleash his strength so he can win. He pushes Achilles forward only for it to keep getting cracked. Valt says it doesn't want to lend its strength to Aiger, but he's to far gone and ain't focusing on anything Valt's said.
Aiger confronts Achilles and says why its not doing anything to try and win, but no response is giving and Valtryek smashes through Achilles, breaking it. Anyways Aiger is distressed and the breakage makes him realize that he was being a big dumb idiot, and its only blader and bey working together that can make resonance. Not only that but he was in over his head and the win against Free got to his head, and he still has a long way to go.
Pretty good writing imo. Thoughts?
It’s really good but I still like the anime version in this scenario. Aiga standing in the rain depressed and crying just can’t be beat IMO. Would have still preferred Valt beating him though.
(Dec. 28, 2020 1:50 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 28, 2020 12:43 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Aiger's character in the manga is good I think.
So in the manga Aiger has just beating Free by applying the logic where big hit on rubber absorbs the impact, but big hit not on rubber hurts, simple enough. Land a big hit without Free letting Fafnir absorb it. Anyways everyone's celebrating his win and Aiger's like I'm the stronger I'm the greatest. Ranjiro brings up how Achilles is so strong and it even beat Fafnir, but this gets Aiger angry. He says that its because of his strength and skill that Achilles is beating people, and no one should be saying otherwise. The others are off put by his sudden hostile persona and Ranjiro says he didn't say the contrary.
Anyways Aiger's go on about who he's the greatest and that he can even beat Valt, funny enough Valt's right behind him chowing down on some grub. Aiger challenges Valt saying he wants to sight Valt now. Valt tells Aiger there's no need to worry and if he triumphs over his other adversaries he will be able to face him. But Aiger's had enough, and he says he sick of having to wait when he can just crush Valt right now. As we can see all the winning is getting to his head.
Valt gets concerned and asks Aiger if he meant what he said when he was talking about how only HIS strength made it possible for him to win. Aiger confirms this and says Yeah, its cause I'm strong Achilles was able to beat the opposing beys. Valt says if you think thats true, he might as well have no chance beating him and Valtryek. Aiger gets mad and battle ensues. During the battle he's losing to Valt's evolved bey Turbo Valtryek. he's getting pummled and tells Achilles to unleash his strength so he can win. He pushes Achilles forward only for it to keep getting cracked. Valt says it doesn't want to lend its strength to Aiger, but he's to far gone and ain't focusing on anything Valt's said.
Aiger confronts Achilles and says why its not doing anything to try and win, but no response is giving and Valtryek smashes through Achilles, breaking it. Anyways Aiger is distressed and the breakage makes him realize that he was being a big dumb idiot, and its only blader and bey working together that can make resonance. Not only that but he was in over his head and the win against Free got to his head, and he still has a long way to go.
Pretty good writing imo. Thoughts?
It’s really good but I still like the anime version in this scenario. Aiga standing in the rain depressed and crying just can’t be beat IMO. Would have still preferred Valt beating him though.
That hit hard but Phi simply beating him is just lazy imo. Valt breaking your bey makes you know you f'ed up.
Don't worry he still has a depressed moment crying on the ground.
(Dec. 28, 2020 1:59 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 28, 2020 1:50 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]It’s really good but I still like the anime version in this scenario. Aiga standing in the rain depressed and crying just can’t be beat IMO. Would have still preferred Valt beating him though.
That hit hard but Phi simply beating him is just lazy imo. Valt breaking your bey makes you know you f'ed up.
Don't worry he still has a depressed moment crying on the ground.
The best thing would be a combination. Valt beats him to server justice and then he has a proper emotional scene crying in the rain spreader reflecting on everything.
(Dec. 28, 2020 2:02 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 28, 2020 1:59 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]That hit hard but Phi simply beating him is just lazy imo. Valt breaking your bey makes you know you f'ed up.
Don't worry he still has a depressed moment crying on the ground.
The best thing would be a combination. Valt beats him to server justice and then he has a proper emotional scene crying in the rain spreader reflecting on everything.
He does reflect on everything, however the rain would help with the atmosphere. However I did like when he saw the broken sword and shield of Achilles fade away.
(Dec. 28, 2020 2:04 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 28, 2020 2:02 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]The best thing would be a combination. Valt beats him to server justice and then he has a proper emotional scene crying in the rain spreader reflecting on everything.
He does reflect on everything, however the rain would help with the atmosphere. However I did like when he saw the broken sword and shield of Achilles fade away.
Yeah but the manga portrayal of the reflection wasn’t as good the anime version. Doesn’t hit the viewer as hard.
(Dec. 28, 2020 2:07 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 28, 2020 2:04 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]He does reflect on everything, however the rain would help with the atmosphere. However I did like when he saw the broken sword and shield of Achilles fade away.
Yeah but the manga portrayal of the reflection wasn’t as good the anime version. Doesn’t hit the viewer as hard.
The only difference was just the rain and setting though.
the only difference in the anime is the hairstyle change and that he cried more cause they need to stretch out every scene.
(Dec. 28, 2020 2:07 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 28, 2020 2:07 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah but the manga portrayal of the reflection wasn’t as good the anime version. Doesn’t hit the viewer as hard.
The only difference was just the rain and setting though.
the only difference in the anime is the hairstyle change and that he cried more cause they need to stretch out every scene.
The rain, the setting and the voice of course. Makes a big difference. I don’t know about you but I actually felt the anime scene a lot more. It hit much harder than the manga ver tbh.
(Dec. 28, 2020 2:16 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 28, 2020 2:07 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]The only difference was just the rain and setting though.
the only difference in the anime is the hairstyle change and that he cried more cause they need to stretch out every scene.
The rain, the setting and the voice of course. Makes a big difference.
The setting was do to them making the stupid choice of having phoenix break his bey and doesn't make a difference. The voice isn't a fair point because of course the manga don't have no voice bruh.
(Dec. 28, 2020 2:18 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 28, 2020 2:16 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]The rain, the setting and the voice of course. Makes a big difference.
The setting was do to them making the stupid choice of having phoenix break his bey and doesn't make a difference. The voice isn't a fair point because of course the manga don't have no voice bruh.
Well it may not be a fair point but it’s still a factor. Phoenix breaking his hey Matt have sucked but the setting was still awesome. Scene was still better IMO.
(Dec. 28, 2020 2:19 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 28, 2020 2:18 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]The setting was do to them making the stupid choice of having phoenix break his bey and doesn't make a difference. The voice isn't a fair point because of course the manga don't have no voice bruh.
Well it may not be a fair point but it’s still a factor. Phoenix breaking his hey Matt have sucked but the setting was still awesome. Scene was still better IMO.
The setting on the boat and at the tower doesn't change much besides giving them an excuse to pan to other random things.
(Dec. 28, 2020 2:21 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 28, 2020 2:19 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Well it may not be a fair point but it’s still a factor. Phoenix breaking his hey Matt have sucked but the setting was still awesome. Scene was still better IMO.
The setting on the boat and at the tower doesn't change much besides giving them an excuse to pan to other random things.
I think it does. A dark gloomy tower is much more depressing than a boat to me.
The manga didn't even focus on the setting at all and just left a white background to emphasize on Aiger and Achilles, which is obviously whats supposed to be happening. In the manga Aiger doesn't take to long to cry after realizing his mistake and is ready to make a new bey and in turn make a proper bond between him and Achilles, which fits his determined personality.
(Dec. 28, 2020 2:22 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 28, 2020 2:21 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]The setting on the boat and at the tower doesn't change much besides giving them an excuse to pan to other random things.
I think it does. A dark gloomy tower is much more depressing than a boat to me.
Its a dark boat at nighttime with a cold unsettling Valt, and seeing Achilles fade away and real time and Aiger realize his mistake after its too late obviously hits hard.
(Dec. 28, 2020 2:24 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]The manga didn't even focus on the setting at all and just left a white background to emphasize on Aiger and Achilles, which is obviously whats supposed to be happening. In the manga Aiger doesn't take to long to cry after realizing his mistake and is ready to make a new bey and in turn make a proper bond between him and Achilles, which fits his determined personality.
(Dec. 28, 2020 2:22 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]I think it does. A dark gloomy tower is much more depressing than a boat to me.
Its a dark boat at nighttime with a cold unsettling Valt, and seeing Achilles fade away and real time and Aiger realize his mistake after its too late obviously hits hard.
whats ur fav beyblade and blader in anime?