(Nov. 13, 2020 8:58 PM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 13, 2020 6:20 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Saying Shu and Valt were intended to be the best doesn’t prove your point seeing as they were the best in s2. Free didn’t just coincidentally injure himself, he injured himself because he was trying way too hard, it was inevitable. The only way it wouldn’t have happened is if he wasn’t trying so hard but then Valt would simply overpower him. Valt and Shu were definitely better and there was no reason for Free to be better by the end. Also saying Free is better just because Aiga hasn’t scored a point on him isnt valid as that that was two seasons ago. This is just total bias at this point. He is unimportant these days and while he is definitely strong, he is nowhere near where you claim he is seeing as he is just a recurring character.
Bro you’re clearly just saying stuff atp. I never said Free coincidentally injured himself, but it shouldn’t even matter how he did an injury is an injury. Also Shu and Free were the top 2 strongest in Evo as Free only lost once and Shu twice. Valt was lucky to even make it to the finals as he relied in Cuza then a Free injury. Also how are you going to tell me Free vs Aiga isn’t valid but you’re bringing up S2?
(Nov. 13, 2020 7:10 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]1st season: Shu
2nd season: Valt
3rd season: Valt
4th season: N/A
5th season so far: Shu
3rd season is definitely Shu. All Valt did was take L’s from Aiga and Valt’s biggest feat was beating Hearts who is the most overrated Blader ever. (As hearts only 2 wins were against Aiga)
Strength is defined by how strong a blader is at various intervals through the series or particular moments, not their record and their feats, kinda obvious. Free vs Aiga isn’t valid because I was talking about their strength in sparking, not s3 and when I brought up s2 I was talking about how Shu and Valt were stronger in that specific season. Another thing, is that while Valt did rely on Cuza, he got stronger during the competition itself, like when reboot got destroyed prompting him to get a new drive or when he got the strike god chip. I know you never said free coincidentally lost to an injury but what else were you supposed to mean? I was trying to say that Free couldn’t win that battle since his arm was guaranteed to break due to his new blading style, but if we count it as Valt getting lucky then it would be considered a matter of probability and chance making in a coincidence but that’s definitely not the case. There is not outcome where Free would have won that, that’s like saying you would beat me in a race had you not taken a dangerous shortcut by running across the highway.
(Nov. 14, 2020 12:57 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 14, 2020 12:51 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: [ -> ]Shu beat Aiga and Aiga’s record vs Valt that season was 2-1 so please lmk what ur tryna say
Shu beat Aiger and two episodes later Valt defeated Hearts who was throwing Aiger around like a rag doll. In fact that was Shu's only win during the season. So I don't think Shu's win against Aiger supports him being stronger than Valt given that Valt defeated an even stronger blader than Aiger two episodes later.
Valt got his Bey broken by Aiga. After that Shu demolished Aiga 4-0. Also u can’t blame Shu for his amount of battles.
Shu had 4 battles in Turbo
1st: Aiger: Win (4-0)
2nd: Aiger: Wins (4 times), Lose (1 time)
3rd: Phi: Lose (3-1)
4th: WIth Fubuki, Ranjiro, and Suoh: Wins many times, Lose (4-0)
(Nov. 14, 2020 12:59 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 13, 2020 8:58 PM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: [ -> ]Bro you’re clearly just saying stuff atp. I never said Free coincidentally injured himself, but it shouldn’t even matter how he did an injury is an injury. Also Shu and Free were the top 2 strongest in Evo as Free only lost once and Shu twice. Valt was lucky to even make it to the finals as he relied in Cuza then a Free injury. Also how are you going to tell me Free vs Aiga isn’t valid but you’re bringing up S2?
3rd season is definitely Shu. All Valt did was take L’s from Aiga and Valt’s biggest feat was beating Hearts who is the most overrated Blader ever. (As hearts only 2 wins were against Aiga)
Strength is defined by how strong a blader is at various intervals through the series or particular moments, not their record and their feats, kinda obvious. Free vs Aiga isn’t valid because I was talking about their strength in sparking, not s3 and when I brought up s2 I was talking about how Shu and Valt were stronger in that specific season. Another thing, is that while Valt did rely on Cuza, he got stronger during the competition itself, like when reboot got destroyed prompting him to get a new drive or when he got the strike god chip. I know you never said free coincidentally lost to an injury but what else were you supposed to mean? I was trying to say that Free couldn’t win that battle since his arm was guaranteed to break due to his new blading style, but if we count it as Valt getting lucky then it would be considered a matter of probability and chance making in a coincidence but that’s definitely not the case. There is not outcome where Free would have won that, that’s like saying you would beat me in a race had you not taken a dangerous shortcut that was guaranteed to leave you injured.
Free injurying himself was clearly a coincidence. He literally did the same thing against Lui so why does the situation change now? So when Shu injured his ar, in the last episode are u going to say it was on purpose?
(Nov. 14, 2020 1:00 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 14, 2020 12:57 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Shu beat Aiger and two episodes later Valt defeated Hearts who was throwing Aiger around like a rag doll. In fact that was Shu's only win during the season. So I don't think Shu's win against Aiger supports him being stronger than Valt given that Valt defeated an even stronger blader than Aiger two episodes later.
Valt got his Bey broken by Aiga. After that Shu demolished Aiga 4-0. Also u can’t blame Shu for his amount of battles.
Shu's amount of battles isn't really the point but the people he's battled. Your using Shu's win and Valt's loss against Aiger as the basis, but shortly after Shu defeated Aiger, Valt defeated a blader stronger than Aiger himself.
Shu is far by more stronger than Aiger
who thinks season 3 valt is stronger than season 3 shu
(Nov. 14, 2020 1:03 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 14, 2020 1:00 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: [ -> ]Valt got his Bey broken by Aiga. After that Shu demolished Aiga 4-0. Also u can’t blame Shu for his amount of battles.
Shu's amount of battles isn't really the point but the people he's battled. Your using Shu's win and Valt's loss against Aiger as the basis, but shortly after Shu defeated Aiger, Valt defeated a blader stronger than Aiger himself.
If that’s how u put it what do u say to Valt losing to Aiga in the last episode, the same Aiga the beat hearts?
Everyone is arguing about Shu and Aiger
While Harry is there watching the drama
(Nov. 14, 2020 1:08 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 14, 2020 1:03 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Shu's amount of battles isn't really the point but the people he's battled. Your using Shu's win and Valt's loss against Aiger as the basis, but shortly after Shu defeated Aiger, Valt defeated a blader stronger than Aiger himself.
If that’s how u put it what do u say to Valt losing to Aiga in the last episode, the same Aiga the beat hearts?
We don't know how Shu would have fared against Aiger at that juncture so using the last battle as a basis for comparison between Shu and Valt wouldn't be useful. The only indication we have in that regard would be Aiger's win against him after creating Turbo Achilles.
Aiger won against SHu 2 times in Turbo
(Nov. 14, 2020 1:14 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 14, 2020 1:08 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: [ -> ]If that’s how u put it what do u say to Valt losing to Aiga in the last episode, the same Aiga the beat hearts?
We don't know how Shu would have fared against Aiger at that juncture so using the last battle as a basis for comparison between Shu and Valt wouldn't be useful. The only indication we have in that regard would be Aiger's win against him after creating Turbo Achilles.
Shu folded Turbo Achilles so much times
(Nov. 14, 2020 1:16 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 14, 2020 1:14 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]We don't know how Shu would have fared against Aiger at that juncture so using the last battle as a basis for comparison between Shu and Valt wouldn't be useful. The only indication we have in that regard would be Aiger's win against him after creating Turbo Achilles.
Shu folded Turbo Achilles so much times
He beated him the 1st 4 times when Aiger created Turbo Achilles: 3 Ring Outs, 1 Burst
(Nov. 14, 2020 1:16 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 14, 2020 1:14 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]We don't know how Shu would have fared against Aiger at that juncture so using the last battle as a basis for comparison between Shu and Valt wouldn't be useful. The only indication we have in that regard would be Aiger's win against him after creating Turbo Achilles.
Shu folded Turbo Achilles so much times
They only had a single one on one battle after Turbo Achilles was created. The rest were battle royales.
(Nov. 14, 2020 1:17 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 14, 2020 1:16 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: [ -> ]Shu folded Turbo Achilles so much times
They only had a single one on one battle after Turbo Achilles was created. The rest were battle royales.
True but they still count as Wins
(Nov. 14, 2020 1:18 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 14, 2020 1:17 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]They only had a single one on one battle after Turbo Achilles was created. The rest were battle royales.
True but they still count as Wins
A battle royale isn't a true test of strength. The best for those is a one on one.
(Nov. 14, 2020 1:02 AM)Isaiah.burley Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 14, 2020 12:59 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Strength is defined by how strong a blader is at various intervals through the series or particular moments, not their record and their feats, kinda obvious. Free vs Aiga isn’t valid because I was talking about their strength in sparking, not s3 and when I brought up s2 I was talking about how Shu and Valt were stronger in that specific season. Another thing, is that while Valt did rely on Cuza, he got stronger during the competition itself, like when reboot got destroyed prompting him to get a new drive or when he got the strike god chip. I know you never said free coincidentally lost to an injury but what else were you supposed to mean? I was trying to say that Free couldn’t win that battle since his arm was guaranteed to break due to his new blading style, but if we count it as Valt getting lucky then it would be considered a matter of probability and chance making in a coincidence but that’s definitely not the case. There is not outcome where Free would have won that, that’s like saying you would beat me in a race had you not taken a dangerous shortcut that was guaranteed to leave you injured.
Free injurying himself was clearly a coincidence. He literally did the same thing against Lui so why does the situation change now? So when Shu injured his ar, in the last episode are u going to say it was on purpose?
Because he was constantly pushing himself with that whole vein thing he does. Additionally, he only used it in his last round with Lui but he used it throughout his battle with Valt. Also, in the manga Free and Valt continuously tied until both of them were at their final launch (meaning they were both overdone at this point) and although the event was different in the manga, Free injuring his arm was inevitable in the manga so it would be the same way in the anime as battle results don’t change. Shu injuring his arm definitely wasn’t on purpose, but it was also inevitable since he charged up the power of his already injured arm for his strongest final launch (he says something along those lines when he takes his stance) and based on his reaction to his arm breaking, it obviously wasn’t on purpose but still inevitable.
Free and Lui were the first two to be the best in the world before Valt and Shu came along the way
(Nov. 14, 2020 1:21 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: [ -> ]harry is the mastermind
yup
(Nov. 16, 2020 12:53 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]https://giphy.com/channel/gifEclipse
Awesome Hikaru panel from the manga, check out my latest post to see it (yes I know its on giphy whatever)
From what I understand, in the manga Hikaru and Aiger battled, do you have the panels by any chance?
(Nov. 16, 2020 1:05 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ] (Nov. 16, 2020 12:53 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]https://giphy.com/channel/gifEclipse
Awesome Hikaru panel from the manga, check out my latest post to see it (yes I know its on giphy whatever)
From what I understand, in the manga Hikaru and Aiger battled, do you have the panels by any chance?
Oh I got the entire chapter. I'll pm it to you.
Eclipse Force can you pm me the chapter?