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Rantaro: Glide Tornado
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(Dec. 06, 2020  2:44 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:42 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I think you confused what I said earlier. I was saying that getting hit by Infinite Dive would activate nothing break and allow it to avoid the rest of the hit. Not that it would avoid the hit altogether. Though I as I stated in the post right before this one, Free has that option as well.

You phrased it as if you said it avoided the attack and even went ahead and stopped my point that the Tornado would keep it in before the Dive came down watthour correcting me.

I addressed the tornado in a previous post. The tornado has enough room within it that nothing break would still facilitate Fafnir's escape. In addition now that I think about it, Ranjiro has lifted up beys before with his tornado which means it's wouldn't necessarily be any different from his current, aside from the usual boost in power from training. Nothing special. So Fafnir would be more than capable of busting through it with Nothing Break. Even with a new tornado I think the results would be the same.

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:47 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:44 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]You phrased it as if you said it avoided the attack and even went ahead and stopped my point that the Tornado would keep it in before the Dive came down watthour correcting me.

I addressed the tornado in a previous post. The tornado has enough room within it that nothing break would still facilitate Fafnir's escape. In addition now that I think about it, Ranjiro has lifted up beys before with his tornado which means it's wouldn't necessarily be any different from his current aside from the usual boost in power from training. Nothing special.

No bey have been lifted up with Glide Tornado. Show me an example.

Ranjiro If Im not wrong was able to pull in Lucifer

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:48 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:47 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]I addressed the tornado in a previous post. The tornado has enough room within it that nothing break would still facilitate Fafnir's escape. In addition now that I think about it, Ranjiro has lifted up beys before with his tornado which means it's wouldn't necessarily be any different from his current aside from the usual boost in power from training. Nothing special.

No bey have been lifted up with Glide Tornado. Show me an example.

Episode 3 of Surge.

Ranjiro used Glide Tornado to pull in Lucius

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:48 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Ranjiro If Im not wrong was able to pull in Lucifer

It never used Tornado in that battle I beleive.

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:49 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:48 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Ranjiro If Im not wrong was able to pull in Lucifer

It never used Tornado in that battle I beleive.

Yes it did

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:49 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:48 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]No bey have been lifted up with Glide Tornado. Show me an example.

Episode 3 of Surge.

The Tornado didn't suck in Hyperion, Hyperion got hit and then ended up in the tornado. Afterwards it barely went up then bursted. That's not a good example. The Tornado would have to suck in Achilles and then intentionally shoot it high in the sky. Hasn't happened before.

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I didn't even get it high enough to go above the stadium wall before bursting

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No Glide Tornado has been able to shoot Achilles to what would be considered optimal Dive height. The one Ranjiro would hypothetically pull off would have to be the strongest one in Surge so far.

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:38 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I dont want to see yall complaining when Valt loses to Lui

The same Ryuga rip off that got clowned on by Lean Yea no sorry but I say Valt takes this one or rather just say their both equal

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:51 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:49 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Episode 3 of Surge.

The Tornado didn't suck in Hyperion, Hyperion got hit and then ended up in the tornado. Afterwards it barely went up then bursted. That's not a good example. The Tornado would have to suck in Achilles and then intentionally shoot it high in the sky. Hasn't happened before.

In order to for it to end up in the tornado and pulled up, the tornado would have to be generating a drawing force. Otherwise it would have simply bounced of it. And when you look again at the scene, the tornado pulled Hyperion up.

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:55 AM)BeybladeX100 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:38 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I dont want to see yall complaining when Valt loses to Lui

The same Ryuga rip off that got clowned on by Lean Yea no sorry but I say Valt takes this one or rather just say their both equal

Im still gonna say Lui wins

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:55 AM)BeybladeX100 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:38 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I dont want to see yall complaining when Valt loses to Lui

The same Ryuga rip off that got clowned on by Lean Yea no sorry but I say Valt takes this one or rather just say their both equal

Lui is in no way a Ryuga rip off. there are plenty of angry bladers, with Lui actually having a bit more depth.

It's the same principle.

Lui is Ryuga's counterpart

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:55 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:51 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]The Tornado didn't suck in Hyperion, Hyperion got hit and then ended up in the tornado. Afterwards it barely went up then bursted. That's not a good example. The Tornado would have to suck in Achilles and then intentionally shoot it high in the sky. Hasn't happened before.

In order to for it to end up in the tornado and pulled up, the tornado would have to be generating a drawing force. Otherwise it would have simply bounced of it. And when you look again at the scene, the tornado pulled Hyperion up.

It didn't pull it up to optimal Dive height. I didn't even go up higher than the stadium wall, the parts bursting up only got it barely higher than that.

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No Glide Tornado has sucked someone in and shot them up that high

Free aint doing Nothing Break

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:55 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:55 AM)BeybladeX100 Wrote: [ -> ]The same Ryuga rip off that got clowned on by Lean Yea no sorry but I say Valt takes this one or rather just say their both equal

Im still gonna say Lui wins

That’s fine it’s your opinion but I don’t care for Lui he’s trash to be honest he gets clowned on by newbies/rookies he’s none of my concern

Finals: Hikaru and Hyuga vs. Shu and Lane
No questions their

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:56 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]It's the same principle.

Its the same principle, however he tornado would have to be stronger to do that. Stronger than we've ever seen in Surge up to this point.

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(Dec. 06, 2020  2:58 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Finals: Hikaru and Hyuga vs. Shu and Lane
No questions their

Makes sense.

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:56 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:55 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]In order to for it to end up in the tornado and pulled up, the tornado would have to be generating a drawing force. Otherwise it would have simply bounced of it. And when you look again at the scene, the tornado pulled Hyperion up.

It didn't pull it up to optimal Dive height. I didn't even go up higher than the stadium wall, the parts bursting up only got it barely higher than that.

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No Glide Tornado has sucked someone in and shot them up that high

It did go above the stadium wall. Look at where it bursted.

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It only got that high because of the tornado.

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:58 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Finals: Hikaru and Hyuga vs. Shu and Lane
No questions their

Most likely but I hope they somehow find a loophole around it. I wouldn’t want to see that twice.

(Dec. 06, 2020  3:01 AM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:58 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Finals: Hikaru and Hyuga vs. Shu and Lane
No questions their

Most likely but I hope they somehow find a loophole around it. I wouldn’t want to see that twice.

lol reminds me of something from back then that they did twice

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:59 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:56 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]It didn't pull it up to optimal Dive height. I didn't even go up higher than the stadium wall, the parts bursting up only got it barely higher than that.

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No Glide Tornado has sucked someone in and shot them up that high

It did go above the stadium wall. Look at where it bursted.

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It only got that high because of the tornado.

Yeah, it went up above the Tornado to Burst. No Tornado has carried it's opponent up and then sent them down before. To do that woudl require another level of skill. Simply launching them up and out would prob just cause them to go outside of the stadium.

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I'll seperate into 2 Tornado's

Normal: Opponent goes up and naturally comes out

Optimal Tornado: Ally safely is raised into the air and then dropped at the right angle

No random twisting and twirling around from being forced onto the Tornado. Even if you wanna argue that would still work, Ranjiro's extra training would still cause the Tornado to be stronger than normal.

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Being able to do that requires 1: Skill and precision no Tornado's have demonstrated before and 2: The actually power to carry that out.

(Dec. 06, 2020  3:22 AM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 06, 2020  2:59 AM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]It did go above the stadium wall. Look at where it bursted.

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It only got that high because of the tornado.

Yeah, it went up above the Tornado to Burst. No Tornado has carried it's opponent up and then sent them down before. To do that woudl require another level of skill. Simply launching them up and out would prob just cause them to go outside of the stadium.

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I'll seperate into 2 Tornado's

Normal: Opponent goes up and naturally comes out

Optimal Tornado: Ally safely is raised into the air and then dropped at the right angle

No random twisting and twirling around from being forced onto the Tornado. Even if you wanna argue that would still work, Ranjiro's extra training would still cause the Tornado to be stronger than normal.

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Being able to do that requires 1: Skill and precision no Tornado's have demonstrated before and 2: The actually power to carry that out.

His training would cause his tornado to be stronger than normal, but Free has been training during this time as well, and he was already stronger than Ranjiro to begin with. Still nothing special that Fafnir couldn't bust through with Nothing Break.