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(Dec. 29, 2008  11:50 AM)-WOLF- Wrote: [ -> ]I learned how to drive today ;D . I almost crashed the car a couple of times

I really need to do this soon.

Is it an expensive car? XD

The board game Clue/do is kinda lame. Me and a few friends played it last night, it takes like 10 mins to complete the game. We set it up and finished it twice in less than 25 mins, was pretty gay.

^ Seriously? We don't play it in my family because it takes us about half an hour just to set it up.

so guys in wut age do u learn to drive in usa? here on 17 u can start driving,but alot of people drive and they are only 15 or 16,if police cought u, u have to give them money and they let u go.
i know how to drive and am 16

Most places in the USA people are able to start driver's education classes at 14 and 9 months, getting their limited driving permit at 15 and then their full license at 16.

just like to say that on the way here I almost died because air canada blows.

so if i stop posting after tomorrow its because I died flying home.

Wow wtf happened?

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:04 PM)Roan Wrote: [ -> ]Most places in the USA people are able to start driver's education classes at 14 and 9 months, getting their limited driving permit at 15 and then their full license at 16.

Huh, thats quite early then. :3 In the UK we get our 'provisional driving licence' at 16 and our full licence at 17. Which isn't that different.....it's just that the thought of a 14 year old behind the wheel is scary. D:

EDIT: 17 is for cars and vans, btw. To drive motorbikes, buses, tractors, etc. you have to be 21.

haha I was a late bloomer. I didn't get my license until I was almost 19. Honestly I think they should raise the age to 18. I really don't feel that 16 year olds are responsible enough to drive.

This is gonna sound stupid but, what are the roads like in most of the USA? I went to Georgia once and most of the road were big, flat, fast roads. But I imagne that in New York most of the roads would be narrower or at least slower moving and they're would be lot's of roads all crammed together. (<-- has only seen stuff on TV). So, is most of the USA like the former or the latter? Or is it pretty even? Because I although I don't think 16 year olds should drive full stop, I guess it wouldn't be as bad if they were mainly limited to slow, congested roads.

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:16 PM)Roan Wrote: [ -> ]haha I was a late bloomer. I didn't get my license until I was almost 19. Honestly I think they should raise the age to 18. I really don't feel that 16 year olds are responsible enough to drive.

lmao carp you

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:16 PM)Roan Wrote: [ -> ]haha I was a late bloomer. I didn't get my license until I was almost 19. Honestly I think they should raise the age to 18. I really don't feel that 16 year olds are responsible enough to drive.

Yeah, says the guy who is already over that age

Honestly, I take driving very seriously (I am 16), even though outside of that I'm not very responsible. As long as the teens realize the potential dangers of driving and take care not to put others at risk (aka making sure they don't kill/injure anybody), I think 16 is a fine age. It's not like ALL 16-year olds are irresponsible.

Also, I don't think responsibility plays a big of a role as inexperience does, which you can get at any age.

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:24 PM)yruahippo Wrote: [ -> ]This is gonna sound stupid but, what are the roads like in most of the USA? I went to Georgia once and most of the road were big, flat, fast roads. But I imagne that in New York most of the roads would be narrower or at least slower moving and they're would be lot's of roads all crammed together. (<-- has only seen stuff on TV). So, is most of the USA like the former or the latter? Or is it pretty even? Because I although I don't think 16 year olds should drive full stop, I guess it wouldn't be as bad if they were mainly limited to slow, congested roads.

That depends. Were you in a big city in Georgia, or a more residential area? Roads on the countryside tend to be of higher speed limit (or no speed limit), while in the city, the roads feel really crammed because of the tall buildings and numerous cars parked on the sides.

Also, where I live, it varies, but most of the time, it's high-speed, hilly roads.

So it really just depends on where you go.

lmao woo backlash

I figured that was coming, but I'm sticking with my statement. The amount of vehicular fatalities among teenagers is carp scary.

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:26 PM)Grey Wrote: [ -> ]It's not like ALL 16-year olds are irresponsible.

But an overwhelming amount are.

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:29 PM)Synesthesia Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:26 PM)Grey Wrote: [ -> ]It's not like ALL 16-year olds are irresponsible.

But an overwhelming amount are.

This.

stop giving kids ferraris and expensive and/or super high-power cars as their first car

let them drive a corolla or civic or something first

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:27 PM)Roan Wrote: [ -> ]lmao woo backlash

I figured that was coming, but I'm sticking with my statement. The amount of vehicular fatalities among teenagers is carp scary.

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:26 PM)Grey Wrote: [ -> ]Also, I don't think responsibility plays a big of a role as inexperience does, which you can get at any age.

I know responsibility plays a role, but even the most responsible person can still cause fatalities from driving due to inexperience.

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:29 PM)Synesthesia Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:26 PM)Grey Wrote: [ -> ]It's not like ALL 16-year olds are irresponsible.

But an overwhelming amount are.

Well, still. ;_;

IMO, those irresponsible 16-year-olds shouldn't have been able to get their license, but there's really no way of preventing someone who is irresponsible from acting responsible around the DMV people.

Unless they're terrible actors.

That's some scary carp.

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:34 PM)Synesthesia Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/teenmvh.htm

Quote:How can motor vehicle injuries be prevented?

There are proven methods to helping teens become safer drivers. Research suggests that the most comprehensive graduated drivers licensing (GDL) programs are associated with reductions of 38% and 40% in fatal and injury crashes, respectively, among 16-year-old drivers.1

Graduated driver licensing (GDL) systems are designed to delay full licensure while allowing teens to get their initial driving experience under low-risk conditions. For more information about GDL systems, see the Teens Behind the Wheel: Graduated Drivers Licensing fact sheet.

When parents know their state’s GDL laws, they can help enforce the laws and, in effect, help keep their teen drivers safe.

Wow, the same GDL that is employed by state law in many states!

Teen drivers have the most casualties, yes, but if a person is going to abuse their right to drive they're going to do it at any age (18 and beyond). Arbitrarily upping the age limit is such an obtuse thing to do--similar to the retarded drinking age of 21.

I don't think raising the legal driving age to 18 is completely unreasonable in the least.

Hey, I like Civics. The new ones anyway......

So basically, the age should be a bit higher but we should give kids more experience? In safer designated places? That sounds good to me.

Also, some 16 year olds are so small I doubt they can even see over the dashboard. I know we all grow at different rates but that is another factor.....

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:39 PM)Synesthesia Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think raising the legal driving age to 18 is completely unreasonable in the least.

If it's raised, all that will really result will be an increased number of fatalities for drivers age 18-20 (IMO). Most of the 18-year olds I have known haven't been much more responsible than the 16-year olds.

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:39 PM)Synesthesia Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think raising the legal driving age to 18 is completely unreasonable in the least.

Is it unreasonable? Maybe not, but it seems arbitrary. Like I've said ... a light does not magically turn on when one legally becomes an adult. If a person is going to be a reckless driver, they will do so until they learn otherwise.

The more prudent action is to make the process much longer than it previously was, which they have. You now have to take a three week class and drive 30 hours behind the wheel with an adult before you get your license. Steps like that are more logical than assuming once you reach 18 you are a safer driver.

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:43 PM)Artie Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 29, 2008  6:39 PM)Synesthesia Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think raising the legal driving age to 18 is completely unreasonable in the least.

Is it unreasonable? Maybe not, but it seems arbitrary. Like I've said ... a light does not magically turn on when one legally becomes an adult. If a person is going to be a reckless driver, they will do so until they learn otherwise.

The more prudent action is to make the process much longer than it previously was, which they have. You now have to take a three week class and drive 30 hours behind the wheel with an adult before you get your license. Steps like that are more logical than assuming once you reach 18 you are a safer driver.

I didn't articulate it very well, but I think what needs to be done is to increase the legal driving age to 18 so that there is a longer time period for classes and training to take place. The more experienced a driver is the better. Even though I waited until I was 18 to get my driver's license I didn't really feel any more prepared because I had never taken a driving lesson in my life, yet I still felt I learned more driving around for an extra few years with my parents than I would have with some instructor in a driver's ed class.

The drivers education classes need reform -- right now they are a carp joke. They don't even take themselves seriously, so how do they expect the teens sitting through them to?