: Metal Faces on pure Stamina types decreases spin time. I think we are confusing spin time with the defensive ability to resist attacks.
To add on to what Leon was saying,that is why Phantom is top tier.
Also, I'm going to a super target soon and might get new beys, so expect tests next week.
(Mar. 14, 2012 11:41 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: [ -> ]: Metal Faces on pure Stamina types decreases spin time. I think we are confusing spin time with the defensive ability to resist attacks.
(Mar. 14, 2012 2:45 PM)kbuno50 Wrote: [ -> ]To add on to what Leon was saying,that is why Phantom is top tier.
Also, I'm going to a super target soon and might get new beys, so expect tests next week.
??? Phantom is top-tier because MFs decrease spin time? ?_?
Anways, Hades Kerbecs BD145WD > Earth/Burn AD145WD, IMO. I'll post tests soon. I also think DS will be pretty useful...
Hm, DS is probably useful in this metagame (but way different story for TT), anyway, does L-Drago II Assault Version have any use in this metagame? It's always struck me as curious.
As far as I've seen, no, it isn't really THAT great, since the Hasbro metagame is way more focused on stamina than anything else, and since the LLD2 Assault ver. doesn't absorb as well, its way harder to win, considering there's only 2 stadium exits.
How about Absorb Version? It's focused on stamina even though it has an attack attribute.
Yeah, absorb works really well. (It IS the normal version, right? xD)
Tests
(Mar. 12, 2012 6:54 PM)HiverLaurant Wrote: [ -> ]Meteo L-Drago 100HF V.S Earth Bull AD145WD
20 Rounds, 1 tie redone
Stadium: MXS No craters
Launchers: Right spin LL2, Left spin LL2 (I Gave away my Hasbro ripcords and launchers, LOL)
Launching Conditions: Both launched at 100%, MLD was banked a bit, EB shot first.
MLD Mode: Barrage
MLD Win %: 85% (17/20)
EB Win %: 15% (3/20)
Results:
MLD by KO
EB by OS
MLD by KO
MLD by KO
MLD by OS
EB by KO
MLD by KO
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
EB by OS
MLD by KO
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by KO
MLD by KO
EB by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by KO
MLD by KO
(Mar. 12, 2012 11:38 PM)HiverLaurant Wrote: [ -> ]Same conditions.
MF Earth Bull AD145WD v.s MLD 100HF
MLD Win %: 85% (17/20)
EB Win %: 15% (3/20)
Notes: Not much KOing going on here, but MLD still works exceptionally well. All KOes from earth were because of MLD hitting hard and flying into the pocket, LOL. Might want to put an MF onto MLD too, since I have 2 Hasbro ones...
Details.
MLD by OS
EB by KO
MLD by OS
MLD by KO
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
EB by OS
MLD by KO
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
MLD by OS
EB by KO
No, I meant Ultimate Absorb Meteo L-Drago DF105LRF.
I don't think so, since the CW is the same and DW is useless, and RF variants don't work very well in Hasbro stadiums.
You are not understanding what I'm saying, I was only referring to the CW, not the other parts.
Welp.
Since apparently 4D bottoms will NOT be released (at this given time, but this is still unconfirmed and subject to change) any expectations for those parts working and possibly doing well was just.. Blown away.
Going back to the Metal face nd Stamina issue...
http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/Metal_Face
Beywiki does not lie. Maybe MF2 in certain combinations have increased stamina, but anytime weight is directed towards the center of the bey, their is more defense, and less stamina.
MF-H probably increases stamina because the mass of the bey which is increased by MF-H which drives the bey forward creating thrust.
Ugh, my little sis just broke my MXSNC stadium... Guess who's buying a Gravity Destroyer stadium thing...
I'm sad Hasbro won't release 4D D: Did you see a reason why they won't release them?
Its not confirmed yet, you know...
Lets hope for the best!
I hope Rai is wrong, at least this time!
(Mar. 15, 2012 4:20 AM)MFB Mad Master Wrote: [ -> ]MF-H probably increases stamina because the mass of the bey which is increased by MF-H which drives the bey forward creating thrust.
Not that I know anything about thrust...but I think that is just simply not true...i will check though
My condolences for your MXSNC Hiver =(
I would perfer if no discussion on the 4D situation takes place here...I would rather not derail the thread with rage...regardless of how true the latest news is (hopefuly not) this thread is for the testing and discusion of Hasbro meta, not about what should and should not have been released. Just setting a precedent in case that issue presents itself here
Ok so ive looked around this thread quite a bit, and I notice there is no actual "Top Tier List" for Hasbro. Is there anyway we can get this changed around some? With the world championships later this month this thread could be a really good tool for some. Ive been talking with the US representative and it would help him out greatly. And personally ive always been curious of the Hasbro meta. IM more then willing to help with this thread.
The tier list is under construction
As we speak, I am organizing the tier list for Attack Types. It should be put up sometime today.
Sadly, I do not have the time to work on a Combo List (maybe this weekend). And even sader, I am still changing an editing my analysis portion of the tier list, which is going to take longer. Maybe this weeked I will get some more work done on that too...
(Mar. 15, 2012 9:49 PM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: [ -> ]The tier list is under construction
As we speak, I am organizing the tier list for Attack Types. It should be put up sometime today.
Sadly, I do not have the time to work on a Combo List (maybe this weekend). And even sader, I am still changing an editing my analysis portion of the tier list, which is going to take longer. Maybe this weeked I will get some more work done on that too...
Like i said i can help. Send me the info and maybe i can help put it up or something.
Well, if you could pm me a list of high recoil wheels, that would be extremley helpful.
May I help with the graffiti den / rip grind stadium tier list?
When the time comes, then yes. However, the 1st tier lists must be contructed based off of the most balanced stadiums, which I have listed in the OP. After that, we can go into stadiums such as those. Dont be suprised if we don't find much in the way of attack types in those stadiums though. Your tests in those stadiums have shown that much to us so far
Which beys need more testing? I can be of use to this thread as well.
Try testing attack types the most. Experiment with tracks, tips, and metal wheels.