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(Sep. 06, 2011  10:35 PM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: [ -> ]I see your points, but having gimmick stadiums like bolt blast and firestrike completely negate the point of testing. It alters gameplay way to much. Ig it were something like a Tornado Beystadium (spinning center) then I would agree, but stadiums with the indents in them just can't be saved in my opinion...

I have very high hopes for Dragon's Den, as it appears as if it uses the LF/MXS mold. But we cannot say for certain until it is measured. However I haven't seen DD or LL stadiums in stores yet...

As for LL, it appears as if it has a good slope, but Defense and Stamina may suffer if it doesn't have a flat center. Agian, we need to test them to be sure.

I will add to the OP that test for both LL and DD are in high demand

: SVS? That isn't allowed for testing.

I have a new idea forming in my head about all of these gimmick stadiums. and what to do with them...give me some time...

Eh, sure. But something to point out, Hasbro tends to use Burning Firestrike and Bolt Blast from what I hear from people in Hasbro "tournaments".

Plus, like I said, could it really hurt to have more testing? I mean heck, maybe someone needs to know how a stadium performs, as it's the only one that's available to them. Plus, it would cause people to contribute a lot more!

Yup, yup. The more contribution, the better.

(Sep. 07, 2011  3:07 AM)Temporal Wrote: [ -> ]But something to point out, Hasbro tends to use Burning Firestrike and Bolt Blast from what I hear from people in Hasbro "tournaments".

That's actually a really good point. If we find out what combos are good in the Max Stampede with Hasbro's rules, you may end up with a different stadium. Say you're using attack because that's what you used on Max Stampede, then you end up in a Bolt Blast or Triple Battle Stadium; you basically wasted your time.

But it's a sticky situation because there would be a slightly varying top tier list for each stadium. And I don't really think enough people would test each stadium.

But, then of course you could say that the reason for having a top tier list with hasbro's rules are only for if the player wants to use those rules.

I would 100% agree with you all, except that Bolt Blast and Burning Firestrike would completely negate attack types. The fact is the results from these 2 stadiums is predictible, which is stamina types become god and all other types become inferior. Any stamina type we test in the allowed stadiums will work the same in almost all stadiums, but attack and defense? They might as well not exist...

Now, I did say under a different setting I would agree 100%, just not on this thread

For those who get what I am hinting at, I cannot promise a thing, but stay tuned for more

I'm really just saying that I think we're limiting ourselves - Hasbro stadiums, are almost all different, no? So there is a plethora of things to learn about them! The sy is the limit! That's why I would like to have all stadiums approved for testing, and yes it would be difficult to build a tier list of them, but hey, I'm sure we could do it!

Huh, I wonder if anything can use the lines as an ADVANTAGE? That'll be nice.

The only attack types I see doing well and having an advantage are CS, SF, RSF, and maybe RS.

: I agree with you, so look into my hint with your soul, and you just might get an idea of my future evil plan!

Just don't look with your beyspirit, or I will die a bit on the inside 0_o

you're gonna die a lot then lol

Ok I want to clarify something. The bolt blast does not kill attack types. Attack types actually behave rather normally in a bolt blast. Me and my cousin use his BB all the time, it doesn't kill attack types. It hurts them, but doesn't make them useless.

I've never seen a beybattle in a Bolt Blast, but I've been meaning to say that. It's not like those tiny little ridges completely stop the beys (unless it's like an HF/S or something) just hinders them a bit.

(Sep. 09, 2011  5:37 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: [ -> ]I've never seen a beybattle in a Bolt Blast, but I've been meaning to say that. It's not like those tiny little ridges completely stop the beys (unless it's like an HF/S or something) just hinders them a bit.

HF/S works fine btw

This is my first time posting my test results if there is anything wrong feel free to help me out with it so that I could give better test results in the future.

Lightning L-drago CH120RF VS. Earth Bull SW145SF
Bey launcher + grip: Earth Bull SW145SF.
Ripcord launcher L + grip: Lightning L-drago CH120RF.
In Lightning Force stadium.

Results
Lightning L-drago CH120RF 30% (6 stadium outs 0 draws).
Earth Bull SW145SF 70% (1 stadium out 13 out spins 0 draws).

Im my opinion Earth Bull SW145SF works good as an defensive type. It has a very still mobility because of the weight of Earth, if I had a metal face I would test it with that but unfortunately I am still saving my moneys to buy some. The stamina is decent but not as good as it could be, but has enough to out spin attack types but against stamina types its not so well. I will post results with Earth Bull SW 145 VS. Earth Aquario DF145WD as soon as posible even though there not much of results so far.

I realy need feedback from this test and other test so I could get better Im begging you please give me feed back!

So it's been a while since I've posted anything, might as well start again lol

For the record, the Max Stampede stadiums seem to vary from location to location. I work at a ToysRus, and we actually have both versions and they actually have the same item number, meaning that Hasbro has changed the stadium and the new ones will no longer have the craters.

Another thing I have to mention is that I've noticed that Hasbro molds all of the stadiums to pretty much the same degree besides their gimmicks. I noticed most recently that Bolt Blast and Burning Firestrike seem to have the same slope as Lightning Force. I checked by stacking the stadiums on each other and they fit perfectly. The only difference is their gimmicks, which I honestly think doesn't effect the results that badly, though testing in Lightning Force is probably ideal, since its the base of all of the other stadiums.

One thing we could do for tier lists are to try a lot of combos that work well in the TT Attack stadium. Ever since I got it, I prefer it over Lightning Force for obvious reasons because its much more balanced it seems like any type has a fighting chance. But I noticed if launched correctly, Attack combos with RF are still pretty effective against Stamina types and have trouble beating Defensive types, which is normal.

I guess if you guys want, I could start testing what I have since I've decided not to sell off my entire collection lol Beyblades look too cool to get rid of hehe

(Sep. 09, 2011  11:40 PM)beyblades 2010 Wrote: [ -> ]Lightning L-drago CH120RF VS. Earth Bull SW145SF
Bey launcher + grip: Earth Bull SW145SF.
Ripcord launcher L + grip: Lightning L-drago CH120RF.
In Lightning Force stadium.

Results
Lightning L-drago CH120RF 30% (6 stadium outs).
Earth Bull SW145SF 70% (1 stadium out 13 out spins).

Your tests are perfect, but just for the future read through this topic to learn how to post your results in the easiest possible way.

I was wondering, where is R145 in all of this? I know it has usage in attack and defense, but I was thinking maybe spin-equalizing? maybe I'll use it in replacement of my ED145 on MF earth bull ED145 WD... added weight, perhaps? and this rock wheel is SICK! (mobile stadium ver. rock zurafa) I doubt I'll battle with this wheel, it's so awesome... :3 beyhunting= SUCESS!!!!!!! (owe my dad 16 bucks tho DX)

(Sep. 09, 2011  11:40 PM)beyblades 2010 Wrote: [ -> ]Results
Lightning L-drago CH120RF 30% (6 stadium outs).
Earth Bull SW145SF 70% (1 stadium out 13 out spins).

you need to post the number of draws (even if there weren't any) That's the only thing that I see wrong.

(Sep. 10, 2011  12:04 AM)WhiteCharisma Wrote: [ -> ]One thing we could do for tier lists are to try a lot of combos that work well in the TT Attack stadium. Ever since I got it, I prefer it over Lightning Force for obvious reasons because its much more balanced it seems like any type has a fighting chance. But I noticed if launched correctly, Attack combos with RF are still pretty effective against Stamina types and have trouble beating Defensive types, which is normal.

that would go against what this entire thread is about. we all know about how great the TT Attack Stadium is, but think about it. "TT Attack Stadium". This is the Hasbro Metagame Stadium and Combo Testing thread. "Hasbro Metagame Stadium and Combo Testing".

Those tests results are nigh-perfect! THANK YOU! Anyway, SF has bees established alongside CS-2 as the best Defense parts. Twisted obviously is top-tier, and Ray___CH120WD is also top-tier during Hasbro Rules. (Note: The "points" system mentioned in rulebooks is specifically stated not to account for official events.) About done.

(Sep. 09, 2011  11:40 PM)beyblades 2010 Wrote: [ -> ]This is my first time posting my test results if there is anything wrong feel free to help me out with it so that I could give better test results in the future.

Lightning L-drago CH120RF VS. Earth Bull SW145SF
Bey launcher + grip: Earth Bull SW145SF.
Ripcord launcher L + grip: Lightning L-drago CH120RF.
In Lightning Force stadium.

Results
Lightning L-drago CH120RF 30% (6 stadium outs).
Earth Bull SW145SF 70% (1 stadium out 13 out spins).

Im my opinion Earth Bull SW145SF works good as an defensive type. It has a very still mobility because of the weight of Earth, if I had a metal face I would test it with that but unfortunately I am still saving my moneys to buy some. The stamina is decent but not as good as it could be but has enough to out spin attack types but against stamina types its not so well. I will post results with Earth Bull SW 145 VS. Earth Aquario DF145WD as soon as posible even though there not much of results.

I realy need feedback from this test and other test so I could get better Im begging you please give me feed back!

Nice results! BTW what mode was SW145 in?

(Sep. 10, 2011  2:47 PM)RandomDude354 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Sep. 09, 2011  11:40 PM)beyblades 2010 Wrote: [ -> ]This is my first time posting my test results if there is anything wrong feel free to help me out with it so that I could give better test results in the future.

Lightning L-drago CH120RF VS. Earth Bull SW145SF
Bey launcher + grip: Earth Bull SW145SF.
Ripcord launcher L + grip: Lightning L-drago CH120RF.
In Lightning Force stadium.

Results
Lightning L-drago CH120RF 30% (6 stadium outs).
Earth Bull SW145SF 70% (1 stadium out 13 out spins).

Im my opinion Earth Bull SW145SF works good as an defensive type. It has a very still mobility because of the weight of Earth, if I had a metal face I would test it with that but unfortunately I am still saving my moneys to buy some. The stamina is decent but not as good as it could be but has enough to out spin attack types but against stamina types its not so well. I will post results with Earth Bull SW 145 VS. Earth Aquario DF145WD as soon as posible even though there not much of results.

I realy need feedback from this test and other test so I could get better Im begging you please give me feed back!

Nice results! BTW what mode was SW145 in?

It was in attack mode, I dont realy know if thats the real name for it because I got that part with a TT bey so yah I'm gonna call it attack mode. Also I will try all other variable parts to find the best combo so expect more tests with some of the same parts.

I dont know if this is the right place to ask this but If anyone has a metal face to add to this combo I would want to see the results.

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Earth Bull SW145SF VS. Earth Aquario DF145WD
Bey launcher + grip: Both
In Lightning Force stadium

Results
Earth Bull SW145SF 0% (0 stadium outs 0ut spins 0 draws)
Earth Aquario DF145WD 100% (1 stadium out 19 out spins 0 draws)

Yah, not much results here this just shows that SF has a small stamina problem. It still has great use just as long as your not facing anything with a WD, D or SD performance tip. Earth Bull has a very small opening for a chance to use its basic movement to to cause a stadium out, which is posible, but very unlikely.

(Sep. 10, 2011  4:35 AM)Max Tate Wrote: [ -> ]

(Sep. 09, 2011  11:40 PM)beyblades 2010 Wrote: [ -> ]Results
Lightning L-drago CH120RF 30% (6 stadium outs).
Earth Bull SW145SF 70% (1 stadium out 13 out spins).

you need to post the number of draws (even if there weren't any) That's the only thing that I see wrong.

(Sep. 10, 2011  12:04 AM)WhiteCharisma Wrote: [ -> ]One thing we could do for tier lists are to try a lot of combos that work well in the TT Attack stadium. Ever since I got it, I prefer it over Lightning Force for obvious reasons because its much more balanced it seems like any type has a fighting chance. But I noticed if launched correctly, Attack combos with RF are still pretty effective against Stamina types and have trouble beating Defensive types, which is normal.

that would go against what this entire thread is about. we all know about how great the TT Attack Stadium is, but think about it. "TT Attack Stadium". This is the Hasbro Metagame Stadium and Combo Testing thread. "Hasbro Metagame Stadium and Combo Testing".

Sorry I guess I read the first post wrong, missed the part about "Sharing" the top tier list of some TT stadium combos. That was pretty much what I was getting at, like if a defense or stamina combo is top-tier in TT, why isn't it listed here? lol

Oh and I'm not sure if anyone has really tested it, but I'm curious how any Vulcan attack combos do in Hasbro stadiums. I'll probably buy something with a Vulcan wheel later, but I haven't seen anything about it lately, and I even noticed its not in many top-tier attack combos anymore. Is it outdated now? lol I've been away from this site for like 4 months and things sure have changed!

***Oh and also Thunder/Infinity defense/stamina testing. Haven't seen that much either and from what I can tell at ToysRus, Thunder is VERY popular. Thunder Libra sells like hot cakes.... Didn't even get a chance to snag one before they were gone.

Thunder is okay, but it's just a little worse than Earth from what I've seen. (I have one)
It has a bit more recoil, and the spin times are outdone as well by Earth. Earth will always be a better choice, but if you don't have access to an Earth, Thunder would be a mediocre substitute.

230 seems to be very bad in hasbro stadium

since attack types are terrible in hasbro stadiums most combos are stamina and defense and both of them always use 145 height tracks i find that 230 is then very esaily destabiled and loses often

Flame Gasher 100FS VS Earth Bull DF145WD
3 Segment Grip String Launcher w/ Launcher Rubber
Lighting Force Stadium
Launched Simultaneously
Flame Gasher 16 OS 80%
Earth Bull 4 OS 20%
Destabilized

Flame Gasher 100FS VS Earth Bull 100WD
Flame Gasher 4 OS 20%
Earth Bull 16 OS 80%
Canceled Out The Destabilizing

Flame Gasher 100FS VS Burn Aquario DF145WD
Flame Gasher 16 OS 80%
Burn Aquario 4 OS 20%

Flame Gasher is a really good destabilizer in Hasbro Stadiums Except againist low track combos.
BTW these are the Beyblades I used to win Beyblade Regional Qualifiers Today
Earth Bull 100WD
Burn Aquario DF145WD
Earth Aquario CH120WB
Flame Gasher 100FS

(Sep. 11, 2011  2:49 AM)njrk97 Wrote: [ -> ]230 seems to be very bad in hasbro stadium

since attack types are terrible in hasbro stadiums most combos are stamina and defense and both of them always use 145 height tracks i find that 230 is then very esaily destabiled and loses often

let me see the test to prove that point