Phantom has recoil, yes.
And B:D does terrible in handling it.
But it's still going to be top tier lol
Phantom's recoil won't play too largely of a role in pitless stadiums, though, will it? "KO"'s are still very difficult to achieve in the majority, if not all, of Hasbro's stadiums.
Is Attack really even a reliable enough choice in any of these stadiums... At all?
EDIT: : True dat
Not really, no.
Flash AD145MF/F might perform well, like it did in the regular meta. If there's anything that can produce good KO's, or have a good shot at stadium KO's, it's that.
Right, I forgot about Flash, lol. I suppose that could present a potential problem for Phantom...
Then again, there will also be L-Drago Destroy-likely-weighted L-Drago Destructors on the prowl, so Phantom may not get off as scuff-free as I'd previously thought.
Yea!
Hope's not lost quite yet, haha.
Flash... In Hasbro meta would be pretty cool.
That being said, Flash (TT) AD145 MF should be tested right now, to see how if it still can KO stuff in Hasbro's stadiums. If it can, I have hoped for the Hasbro version, IF it can mode change, or is locked in attack mode.
It has two parts, so unless Hasbro's altered its framework in some fashion that should dis-allow proper mode change, it should still be able to change modes just as its Takara-Tomy counterpart currently does.
clear wheel discussion - btw guys, Horogium/Tempo and Pisces don't really work for Vulcan (Pisces seems decent-ish, if nothing else is available though), but Horuseus and Byxis, from what has been noted over time, are the best two clear wheels for Vulcan.
Something like Phantom ____ 90MF or another tornado staller may also be able to work, I'm pretty sure Hasbro's tornado ridges are raised enough as to not allow MF to pass through, or at least so that it can disrupt it enough as to now allow it to fall into the pits. MF attackers sound like they have the best chance to be decent attack types, heh.
Fun fun times they will be when these are released and properly tested XD
MF is a great choice in Hasbro stadiums. Plenty of stamina, while staying on the offensive.
What would you like to see tested against Flash AD145MF? I don't mind breaking out the old LLD stadium 
Could you test against basalt BD145CS just to see if it actually can KO effectively? I'm interested to see the results
I would like to help but I am wondering if XTS stadiums are allowed?(Specifically Lion's Lair)
Yes, XTS Stadiums are allowed.
, just let it loose on Hasbro's Top Defense, Basalt Aquario BD145 CS right?
Has any testing been done on the Zurafa clear wheel yet? (Stamina wise)
Zurafa wouldn't be good for stamina, it's not round and doesn't have good synergy with metal wheels for stamina
Maybe WF would work too as a replacement to MF .I had some test with JB in a destablizer combo, so I'll post those later. But WF seems like it could also work.
I just thought we should test it because when i was looking at the Stamina Clear Wheel thread, some of the results show zurafa's spin time near what bull and aquario's spin times were
Also, the Leone wheel has sufficient spin times as well. What combo would i use to go about testing these?
(Nov. 24, 2012 8:20 PM)BladerPegasis Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe WF would work too as a replacement to MF .I had some test with JB in a destablizer combo, so I'll post those later. But WF seems like it could also work.
I actually tried this last night. WF's too uncontrollable, so to make it stall controllably would require the combo to be launched weaker than you normally would with MF.
JB can't compare to MF.
Has anyone herd about the Hasbro Striker Stadium? I got it at Marshals for less than ten bucks and it's design is kinda similar to the Takara Tomy Super Attack Stadium. It's floor is kinda flat though, and the rubber flat tips weren't very aggressive, but seemed as if they had a bit more stamina though. That, or my rubber flat tips are just worn out. Stamina types dominated as usual.
Yeah, that's pretty common knowledge. When F series tips are stalling (not tornado stalling) they have increased stamina.
I think the ridges on the stadium would help attack types actually. When I was using it, I was using some combos with MF, and when it went into one of the florar looking thingies, it helped the bey go towards the middle.
In this pic you can kinda see what I'm talking about.
Hasbro Striker Stadium
It helped the bey do the flower pattern is what I'm guessing you mean. It would still be hard to KO since there only being two small gaps.
Dear God no, being stationary for an attack type is what they don't need, and that's exactly what that stadium does to the majority of them. IIRC XF doesn't stall as easy, but it can't manage a KO for hell.
I tested Cosmic 230 WF today. NI chance at a KO. 230 is too high and WF is too hard to control. It couldn't even beat stamina. Here are my test results:
Equipment: Beylauncher
Lion's Lair Stadium
Cosmic Unicorno 230 WF vs Earth Aquario AD145 WD
Cosmic:2 Wins(All OS)
Earth:8 Wins(All OS)
Ah, some destablizer testing with JB. No OS's in the crater in the RipGrind Stadium, sooo.
Quote:Killer Pisces 90JB vs. Earth Aquario GB145WD
Stadium: RipGrind BeyStadium
L/R BeyLauncher
Earth shot first on odd rounds, Killer on even
Killer Pisces 90JB: 5 wins (all OS)
Earth Virgo GB145WD: 15 wins (all OS)
JB win rate: 25%
Killer would only win if it destablized WD so that its outer edge was touching the stadium.