I didn't say EDS was thin. I was just saying that thin, spiked, and speedy tips don't work well on 230. EDS is a spiked tip, though. And usually speedy tips don't work with 230 because since it's so tall, if it speeds out of control and collides with an opposing bey, the sudden stop will put the bey with 230 off balance.
(Dec. 11, 2012 1:21 AM)R3DX Wrote: [ -> ]EDS isn't thin, and only hasbro parts can be used as stated by op.
It was long ago, we all mutually agreed if we had TAKARA-TOMY or SONO KONG parts we could use them. They've been used countless times in tests in this thread.
-Highwind
I have the Hades Gate Beystadium. It's so broken, if you stall, or if you're using an F series tip, it's so easily to get caught in the Tornado Ridge, and stall until almost all RPM has been lost.
Just to clarify, You are allowed to use TT or Sonokong parts IF it is a part Hasbro has released.
Rai, I believe the Meteor Fire is identical to the Hades Gate, except there is a smaller dead spot in the middle.
Has anyone tested Hasbro proto wheel or nemesis wheel or whatever.
(Dec. 13, 2012 12:09 AM)Daft Mau5 Wrote: [ -> ]Has anyone tested Hasbro proto wheel or nemesis wheel or whatever.
Here:
(Nov. 27, 2012 12:43 AM)Thunder Dome Wrote: [ -> ]Proto Nemesis Testing
Gear
Super Vortex
Launcher Grip
String launcher
Left spin launcher (Only on meteo)
Attack Tests Using Proto Nemesis TR145 MF
Proto nemesis TR145 MF VS Basalt Bull 230 CS
Proto:0
Basalt:20
Basalt Wins
Proto Nemesis TR145 MF VS Basalt Bull AD145 WD
Proto:0
Basalt:20
Basalt Wins
Proto Nemesis TR145 MF VS Basalt Bull BD145 F
Proto:1
Basalt:19
Basalt Wins
Proto Nemesis TR145 MF VS VariAres R145 F
Proto:2
Vari:18
Proto Nemesis TR145 MF VS Meteo L Drago CH120 EWD (120 Height)
Proto:1
Meteo:19
Proto is not good for Attack
So HyperBlades seem to be about the same as the TT 4D system. So we can start testing with our TT parts since Hasbro has released some. I'll do some testing later.
As expected proto isn't good for attack but i think it might work in a defense or stamina combo.
(Dec. 13, 2012 1:04 AM)Daft Mau5 Wrote: [ -> ]As expected proto isn't good for attack but i think it might work in a defense or stamina combo.
Didn't I post results for Proto Nemesis BD145 CS?
Edit:Look on page 83 to find the tests.
Requesting Flash tests...
Seriously, Flash Tests, mirrored with what the current competitive combos are in BB-10.
I don't know why you're requesting them, Kain_Highwind said the Metal Wheel is identical, including the weight. We all know it'll maul everything.
Yes, but who knows. Just like, 3 rounds, to see if it can KO like TT Flash does. Duo and Phantom are the key concerns really
Guys I just thought about something, should be try the new orange stadium released with the hyper blade cosmic Pegasus and Ldd? Or it MXS still top tier among hasbro stadiums?
(Dec. 13, 2012 6:12 PM)R3DX Wrote: [ -> ]Guys I just thought about something, should be try the new orange stadium released with the hyper blade cosmic Pegasus and Ldd? Or it MXS still top tier among hasbro stadiums?
Of course that stadium needs to be tried and tested. I have already mentioned that I hope it has a good enough slope to make it one of the standard stadiums to test in because everyone will have better access to it, as opposed to the MXS. But until someone actually provides tests in the Hyper Strike stadium, the MXS is still considered the best one to use.
Agreed, the only problem is the pockets are smaller then the ones in mxs, Although with hasbro making flash and hopefully hyper blade blitz and vari then the sheer recoil alone should be able to prove with stadium outs. For the time being it seems stamina defense hybrids dominate hasbro meta
Yes, but it has to be the no craters version.
(Dec. 13, 2012 8:33 PM)R3DX Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed, the only problem is the pockets are smaller then the ones in mxs, Although with hasbro making flash and hopefully hyper blade blitz and vari then the sheer recoil alone should be able to prove with stadium outs. For the time being it seems stamina defense hybrids dominate hasbro meta
I've been playing around with the Hyper-Strike Beystadium. I tried many different combos, and at one point recorded a video of a battle between Flash Orion GB145R2F and Phantom Cygnus 230SD (with only Hasbro parts). The latter winning the most since, most of the time, Flash Orion was unable to get it into the pockets and ended up being out-spin battles. Afterwards, I've been frustrating myself trying to come with other good combos to use in the stadium, but nothing seems to work well enough, especially since it doesn't favor attack-types at all. What should I do?
As for the stadium itself, there is a small ridge blocking the pockets, making it nearly impossible for anything to end up in there. I pushed my thumb against it and the one in Max Stampede, and felt way more resistance against the one in the Hyper-Strike. Also, attack types with low tracks scrape the floor due to the steep slope.
Try using HF, F, MF, XF, or WF. And maybe AD145 instead of GB145 to boost Flash's stamina a little. Flash has such great smash that all it needs is more time to give it more chances to hit the opponent in the direction of the pocket.
How well does a flower pattern do in that stadium? And does it tornado stall well?
In the HyperStrike Stadium, it looks like Left Spin Atackers would easily fall into the pockets. There is a curve, lessening the chances of a KO for Right Spin Beyblades, as they tornado stall in a counter clockwise direction. In the case of Left Spin Beys though, they tornado stall in the clockwise direction. If you look at a picture of the HyperStrike Stadium, there is absolutely nothing blocking the exit hole if one's Beyblade went in a clockwise direction.
According to phantomcellistf though, there is a "ridge" near the exits, and it makes the chances of a KO decrease. Phantomcellistf, can you post pictures showing the ridge you were talking about please?
Thanks for the advice. I'll try it out later.
I uploaded the video to Youtube, but I purposely lowered the quality since it's a bit long:
Hyper-Strike Beystadium: Phantom Cygnus 230SD VS Flash Orion GB145R2F
(Dec. 13, 2012 10:54 PM)BladerPegasis Wrote: [ -> ]According to phantomcellistf though, there is a "ridge" near the exits, and it makes the chances of a KO decrease. Phantomcellistf, can you post pictures showing the ridge you were talking about please?
Hyper-Strike Stadium
From 00:47 to 00:53, you can see the pockets of the stadium. It's hard to tell from my video, but it's noticeable when light bounces off it. It's a short wall blocking the pockets.
(Dec. 13, 2012 8:45 PM)Shadoow Wrote: [ -> ]Is MXS maximum stampede?
Yes mxs is max stampede but we are talking about the craterless version
OH wow....there is no Tornado Ridge is there??? It does seem to have a nice slope, but if there is not a TR then that is going to be an issue.
Also, I believe a plastic attack tip is exactly what you need. I saw several rounds where if Flash would have had even a tiny bit more stamina, it would have won easy.
No Tornado Ridge.
No Tornado Ridge.
No Tornado Ridge?!?!
Agreed with Kain, plastic Attack Tips, or maybe an MF (the tip, not the face, ahah) could work, as there is no need for the grip an Attack type possess in the BB-10. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Metal Flat could work out nicely.
(Dec. 13, 2012 11:05 PM)Kain_Highwind Wrote: [ -> ]OH wow....there is no Tornado Ridge is there??? It does seem to have a nice slope, but if there is not a TR then that is going to be an issue.
No, there is a tornado ridge around the motif. Just hard to see in the video.
One more thing I observed in your video.....it looks like the paint on the stadium floor is very much affecting Flash's stamina (which Hasbro stadiums are notorious for). Once most of that wears off, I am pretty sure you will see and improvement. Also, most of your KOs happened when you did a good bank shot that resulted in somewhat of a flower pattern.
Edit: is it a reall TR though? In the video it just looks like the slope ending and the dead spot beginning.