(Jul. 23, 2011 12:27 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: [ -> ]Ahh, carp, I never posted my testing results!
Lightning Force Stadium and a Hasbro beylauncher along with a grip with rubber.
MF Ray Bull CH120WD
Wins: 1. OS.
MF Earth Bull D125WD launched first.
Wins: 19. All OS.
MB9, Ray has no chance against Earth with recoil lol. If they don't have an MF MAYBE, and againt Burn, I'm sure MFRBCH120WD would do fine.
Aslo BillyBlast, there's nothing in your spoilers bro. Or are you going to edit them later? I might do some testing on Bakushin as well.
Derped big time with this combo. Ah, well. Thanks for the tests. I'll let go of this for now. I'll try again later, but for now, forget the combo.
: That is the polar opposite of the post you did before =) this is a huge help thanks for your contribution!
, : i am suprised Ray did so terrible. If I had Ray I would gladly test for yo...but i dont. Ray itself is probobly still top tier, it is just not good enough to beat earth. i have faith in ray so far though. from what we have seen with our testing up till now, ray has been doing well. let us not give up on it yet
btw this has been added under the stadium section of the OP
Quote:IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ: THERE ARE 2 VERSIONS OF THE MAXIMUM STAMPEDE STADIUM, THE METAL FUSION AND METAL MASTERS VERSIONS; THE METAL FUSION VARIANT HAS NO CRATERS, WHILE THE METAL MASTERS VARIANT IS LIKE THE EARLY PROTOTYPE AND HAS THE 3 GIANT CRATERS IN THE CENTER. TESTS WILL ONLY BE ACCEPTED FROM THE METAL FUSION VARIANT. NO TESTING WILL BE ALLOWED IN THE METAL MASTERS VARIANT!
Ray is top tier for ATTACK. That's due to the amount of recoil it has, recoil smash is good for an attack type. It's good enough to beat Earth, but DEFINITELY not in a stamina/defense custom.
As for the tier list, i asked the mods, no one responded. however the people over at the plastics thread (god i wish i could contribute there) are making a tier thread for thier plastics thread so i dont see why we cant make a tier thread ourselves.
Lord Wolfblade and megablader9, I will be pming you soon about the possible details.
(Jul. 23, 2011 7:28 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: [ -> ]Ray is top tier for ATTACK. That's due to the amount of recoil it has, recoil smash is good for an attack type. It's good enough to beat Earth, but DEFINITELY not in a stamina/defense custom.
Does it have more recoil than Rock? Because that could decide if ray is tier 1 or tier 2 (same for rock)
Better ability overall though, Rock Self-KOs sometimes. (VERY hard to do in a Hasbro Stadium) Though, ROck is better than Ray at Tornado Stalling, but Ray can be used on 100/105 occasionally, which Rock just can't.
So perhaps we could use Ray for several low profile attack tiers, such as Ray ___ W105RF while we continue to use rock as a multi-purpose part on mid height profile tracks.
Also, i thought it was easy to self KO in Hasbro stadiums with attack types unless you have a very controled bey, which can be achieved by the use of an MF and/or a sliding shoot.
Yeah, that'd be better considering, it's on a low track+an RF haha.
I agree that rock is good, but the recoil does make it self-ko, as well as lose balence. I have played around with ray, and my best combo is ray aquario LW105 RF, but I think it might work better with R2F. sadly, I do not have an R2F in my possion.
Self KOing is hard to do with some parts due to size, which is why F and HF were so effective, despite the lack of grip. Plus, the TR helps. (Again, Tornado Stalling is best with Rock, though it only beats LLD combos. (Waiting for Destroyer to be released, along with the Rip Gauge Launcher)
i do enjoy tornado stalling, but if an attack type bey gets stuck there, you are basicly done, hence why sliding shoot is esencial here, and in TT stadiums as well i guess.
If you all did not read the Beyblade Metal Fusion topic recently, apparently pockets are not knockout areas, you are still in play ...
Though if you are still in the pocket even if the attack type bey stops spinning first they win it is considered Trapped if its still in and one bey has stopped spinning
(Jul. 24, 2011 4:10 PM)BillyBlast Wrote: [ -> ]Though if you are still in the pocket even if the attack type bey stops spinning first they win it is considered Trapped if its still in and one bey has stopped spinning
No, if your Beyblade is in a pocket, still spinning, and that the other Beyblade in the actual play area stops spinning, you win.
(Jul. 24, 2011 4:13 PM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 24, 2011 4:10 PM)BillyBlast Wrote: [ -> ]Though if you are still in the pocket even if the attack type bey stops spinning first they win it is considered Trapped if its still in and one bey has stopped spinning
No, if your Beyblade is in a pocket, still spinning, and that the other Beyblade in the actual play area stops spinning, you win.
Really oh sorry That is how they did at toysrus I know they aren't accurate but the Worker actual read the rules of hasbro and everything even the 7 points Well I guess this proves Toysrus is even worse than everyone thought
(Jul. 24, 2011 4:13 PM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ] (Jul. 24, 2011 4:10 PM)BillyBlast Wrote: [ -> ]Though if you are still in the pocket even if the attack type bey stops spinning first they win it is considered Trapped if its still in and one bey has stopped spinning
No, if your Beyblade is in a pocket, still spinning, and that the other Beyblade in the actual play area stops spinning, you win.
That makes attack types almost completely useless in Hasbro tournaments.
@ iBeyblader: People, I have made a discovery! There are these new parts! It's so rare, that it can only be obtained through three out of four Boosters, LLD, most non-Pegasis Attack-Type beyblades released by Hasbro, and the non-booster Legends. They are called...HF and F. Really, they've been being tested for AGES now, and they normally get better results than RF, and an insane amount of OS wins.
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@ iBeyblader: People, I have made a discovery! There are these new parts! It's so rare, that it can only be obtained through three out of four Boosters, LLD, most non-Pegasis Attack-Type beyblades released by Hasbro, and the non-booster Legends. They are called...HF and F. Really, they've been being tested for AGES now, and they normally get better results than RF, and an insane amount of OS wins.
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And thats why I used an uncustomized largo when testing defense/stamina types. I've never really liked rf in hasbro stadiums anyway.
Uheheheh. Little nudge that Ray Virgo CH120WD needed.
Standard Procedure, Hasbro Tournament Rulings
Ray Virgo CH120WD (145 Mode) vs. Rock Bull CH120RF
Ray Virgo: 100%, baby! All by OS, except for one isolated KO, where Rock was destabilized somehow, then got slapped into the pockets, where it was OS'd.
Rock Bull: 0% Four KOs, but still got OS'd.
One tie. Both got KOd, and immediately stopped spinning.
RF has NO use in this context, until RS and RSF drop. Tests with F forthcoming, but hope is in the gutter. F is damn good.
(Jul. 24, 2011 10:52 PM)Temporal Wrote: [ -> ]Uheheheh. Little nudge that Ray Virgo CH120WD needed.
Standard Procedure, Hasbro Tournament Rulings
Ray Virgo CH120WD (145 Mode) vs. Rock Bull CH120RF
Ray Virgo: 100%, baby! All by OS, except for one isolated KO, where Rock was destabilized somehow, then got slapped into the pockets, where it was OS'd.
Rock Bull: 0% Four KOs, but still got OS'd.
One tie. Both got KOd, and immediately stopped spinning.
RF has NO use in this context, until RS and RSF drop. Tests with F forthcoming, but hope is in the gutter. F is damn good.
RF Killed this it may previde more power however in Hasbro Stadiums even with more force it increased attack power is not enough to make up for its stamina for a card game example
Rubber Flat: Attack + 15 Defense -2 Stamina -25 Flat: Attack +8 Defense Let's say basic Stamina Types have 60 RPM RF Attacks twice for it making it O But be cause of negative it loses 2 points of attacking 1 for each negative so 26 HP Hit RF Stops Spinning Flat has stamina of 8 15X8 = 120 Twice as much as the stamina beys HP and it wins However in TT STadiums you
have to apply attacking mOvement and alot of other stuff
I know the Example mihg tbe bad or Gibberish or Bad sorry this is how I think in a simulation I doubt this will be good aginst attack with f or burn/earth stamin types
Hasbro's rules state that KOs are technically impossible. If a beyblade still spins, it's still "In play". On that note, RF sucks, as it's not OSing ANYTHING except for RSF or RS, unless you're using a 100.
Also, yes, that IS indeed a bunch of gibberish.
based on those rules, I predict a bunch of kids spamming with defence/stamina combos. as for RF, only hope there is is maybe doing what pegasus did against poison serpent. smash it into a wall, or breaking it. otherwise, you are carped with RF, or any attack types for that matter. I also predict the winner to use a burn aquario GB145 WD, as it gets knocked around, but stays up, and has INSANE stamina. of course, basalt may be out by then, so I'm not 100% certain.
Nah, hit GB145 enough, and that combo has issues OSing Dark, of all things. Winner will probably have something like Earth___125WD if he/she's from the WBO.
Maybe with the release of these new rules we should make combos that r likely to get hit into the pockets and outspin their opponents. Sorry if this is offtopic
I did already. Ray Virgo CH120WD owns in that aspect, as does most 125/145WD Earth combos. GB145 is likely to hit the sides of the pockets, so it's not very good in that area. High recoil wheels like LLD on 100 kill themselves int he pockets too. This ruling was a major earthquake to the Hasbro Metagame.