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Thanks for your tests though.

There are 2 Hasbro CS; one included in the single pack, and the other from the face off. Thier migjt be a 3rd one, but I cant say for certain.

Added a poll. Sorry if there are typos. Kind of in a rush right now. Sucks that polls cant be edited

I'm sorry, but I think a poll in this case is a terrible idea. It's not an opinionated matter.

BeyLauncher is the go to Launcher. Until/If Hasbro releases a BeyLauncher L, Light Launchers must be used for both Beyblades if there is a Left Spin Beyblade in the match, and the Winders must be the same length.

That's all. It's not complicated at all.

(Jan. 19, 2012  3:18 PM)DefStamina88 Wrote: [ -> ]Earth Aquario GB145WB (WB semi-worn) VS MF Gravity Destroyer R145R2F (R2F semi-worn)

Aquario: 24/25 (20 OS, 4 KO)
Destroyer: 1/25 (KO)
Aquario Winning %: 96%

Earth Aquario GB145WB (WB semi-worn) VS Basalt Aquario 230CS (CS semi-worn)

Aquario: 16/25 (14 OS, 2 KO)
Basalt: 9/25 (8 OS, 1 KO)
Aquario Winning %: 64%

Earth ___ GB145WB/WD was already tested against all attack-types in MXS1, WD was shown to be better, Though I don't understand why you've repeated the test..
RF has shown to be better than R2F in Hasbro stadiums, Unless something drastically changed in the fabric of space and time.

(Jan. 19, 2012  11:34 PM)DefStamina88 Wrote: [ -> ]And honestly, I was surprised by Earth Aquario GB145WB's defense. It took the hits and, despite sliding a bit, it shook off most of the hits as nothing.

You shouldn't have been surprised..

On another note:
Now that MB has been released by Hasbro(Though this may be old news now) is this thread in need of testing of the part? Though MF Twisted Gasher BD145MB has already broken the Hasbro-Meta even before it's release..

(Jan. 20, 2012  12:57 AM)Shabalabadoo Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sorry, but I think a poll in this case is a terrible idea. It's not an opinionated matter.

BeyLauncher is the go to Launcher. Until/If Hasbro releases a BeyLauncher L, Light Launchers must be used for both Beyblades if there is a Left Spin Beyblade in the match, and the Winders must be the same length.

That's all. It's not complicated at all.

This really does seem like the only adequate way to handle this, since Rip Gauge Launchers are often inconsistent between Left and Right, iirc.

(Jan. 20, 2012  1:05 AM)Hazel Wrote: [ -> ]This really does seem like the only adequate way to handle this, since Rip Gauge Launchers are often inconsistent between Left and Right, iirc.

The RGL shouldn't even be allowed considering varying performances. The rules right now are good. I agree with what Shabalabadoo said; string launchers should be the #1 and then the ripcord launchers.

(Jan. 19, 2012  11:42 PM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: [ -> ]There are 2 Hasbro CS; one included in the single pack, and the other from the face off. Thier migjt be a 3rd one, but I cant say for certain.

Yes, there is a 3rd one. It is in another faceoff. It is in yellow colour.

Yellow like Inferno Byxis's RS right? I thought so. Which face off was that agian?

Perhaps I jumped the gun with a poll, but what Shabalabadoo said holds true. Beys preform differeny with ripcord launchers than with string launchers. A bey with LLD might go one way when all beys use a ripcord launcher, and another way when used with a beylauncher.

Considering that long ripcords are impossible to get in Hasbro meta, what else can we do for left spin other than Rip Gauge? We cpukd ask people to try and make it as consistant as possible but that is time consuming, no one will do it, and it might descourage testing...

Hazel, would it be at all possible to remove the poll completely? If not then we can wait the remaining days until it closes, or if you wish to close it without removing it

(Jan. 20, 2012  1:36 AM)Lynxx Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, there is a 3rd one. It is in another faceoff. It is in yellow colour.

Color doesn't matter. How is this 3rd "different"?
Because I have it, and it's the exactly the same as the Calm CS from the 1st face-off it made appearance in.
Ignoring the colors.

(Jan. 20, 2012  3:37 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: [ -> ]Considering that long ripcords are impossible to get in Hasbro meta, what else can we do for left spin other than Rip Gauge? We cpukd ask people to try and make it as consistant as possible but that is time consuming, no one will do it, and it might discourage testing...

From the tournaments I've gone to, L-String launcher was allowed for use. Atleast 4 including me were using one.
But since we're not going by the Hasbro rule of pockets, nor are we using the other stadiums yet they will be in their tournaments, meaning we're not playing by Hasbro terms. Why does this matter if the Left-LS is used or not?
Also the fact of MXS2 will be used instead of MXS1 in their terms.

Dude, they would use the short Winders. That's what Hasbro makes, that what someone will use if they play with Hasbro only parts.

It sucks but there's no magical solution. Just do with what we've got.

I think this would be a very fair rule:

If you have two launchers, one right and one left, they should be of equal or near-equal power. (i.e. leftspin ripcord launcher and rightspin ripcord launcher, L/R beylauncher)

(Jan. 20, 2012  1:00 AM)Stratus G. Wrote: [ -> ]

(Jan. 19, 2012  3:18 PM)DefStamina88 Wrote: [ -> ]Earth Aquario GB145WB (WB semi-worn) VS MF Gravity Destroyer R145R2F (R2F semi-worn)

Aquario: 24/25 (20 OS, 4 KO)
Destroyer: 1/25 (KO)
Aquario Winning %: 96%

Earth Aquario GB145WB (WB semi-worn) VS Basalt Aquario 230CS (CS semi-worn)

Aquario: 16/25 (14 OS, 2 KO)
Basalt: 9/25 (8 OS, 1 KO)
Aquario Winning %: 64%

Earth ___ GB145WB/WD was already tested against all attack-types in MXS1, WD was shown to be better, Though I don't understand why you've repeated the test..
RF has shown to be better than R2F in Hasbro stadiums, Unless something drastically changed in the fabric of space and time.

(Jan. 19, 2012  11:34 PM)DefStamina88 Wrote: [ -> ]And honestly, I was surprised by Earth Aquario GB145WB's defense. It took the hits and, despite sliding a bit, it shook off most of the hits as nothing.

You shouldn't have been surprised..

On another note:
Now that MB has been released by Hasbro(Though this may be old news now) is this thread in need of testing of the part? Though MF Twisted Gasher BD145MB has already broken the Hasbro-Meta even before it's release..

New thread rule: No altering space-time, ok people?

MB tests would be awesome. Whenever you have the time =)

Haha you make it sound like this metagame isnt already bandaged together, haha.

That awkward moment when an attack type user realizes, "Damn, this is a Hasbro stadium..."

If we are to actually play by the "Hasbro" terms. We have to use MXS2 and the rest of the stadiums, and not MXS1. Also including the Pocket rule they have. If we do not play by those exact terms. Then testing using a Left Beylauncher will not matter whatsoever.

I'm hoping this made sense..

I think what Stratus is trying to say is:
If you don't test 100% Hasbro rules (all stadiums, all American rules, and even XTS tops) then you really aren't testing for a perfect Hasbro meta-game. You're merely testing a fictional subset of conditions that the WBO has invented for Hasbro tops.

You might get more out of testing multiple stadiums and American rules, because testing for everything could lead to the creation of a Hasbro-only league or Hasbro-only product tournaments for people 13+ run through the WBO.

I completely understand that, but the purpose of this Topic is not for Hasbro Torunaments, it's for people who are unable to get TAKARA-TOMY products. Because we want it to be as accurate as possible, we only use the most fair Stadium Hasbro has to offer, and as such, we want to make the Launching as fair as possible, with Hasbro only Launchers. Using a TAKARA-TOMY Launcher is against the means of this Topic; a customization Thread for Hasbro Beyblade products.

(Jan. 21, 2012  1:10 AM)Shabalabadoo Wrote: [ -> ]The purpose of this Topic is not for Hasbro Torunaments, it's for people who are unable to get TAKARA-TOMY products.

Most of these members (approximately 93%) can purchase a Meteo from ebay, but are not allowed to purchase a stadium from the site.
There are differences in that matter.

Testing needs to be done by 1-3 people anyway, L-Ripcord launcher can be allowed for testing. Then one or all of the 2-3 can confirm results with the L-Beylauncher.

A custom will still work without a L-Beylauncher. Though highly depending on what it is,
And the skill the user has with the ripcord-launches, which is a major factor in this thread

Example:
User 1 tests a certain Left-spin custom and shows it having a 90-100% with the L-Ripcord
User 2 tests and confirms the custom to have a 100% with the L-Beylauncher.
User 3 tests and confirms the custom to also have a 100% with the L-Ripcord.

Yeah I get that, but if there were to be any non-Hasbro products, this Topic shouldn't exist anymore. This Topic and the previous one went through a ton of debate and barely got approved, it's silly and pretty ignorant to start using TAKARA-TOMY products. In using TAKARA-TOMY products, we go against a Thread in which a big topic of debate was to just talk Hasbro stuff in the Topics already in the Customization Forum, such as Build Me A Combo.

Just being honest here, but the RGL shouldn't be allowed, even if someone has a very powerful one. All of the points that I would argue have already been brought up, but even if one is as powerful as/more powerful than a Beylauncher, we shouldn't allow it.

I wasnt sure yet, so i didnt remove it. I actualy have one more point to bring up...

If the Rip Gauge Launcher is unreliable, cant the same be said for the Rev-Up launcher?

What is more, yes Rip Gauge Launcher is inconsistant, but cant testers just redo battles that have crappy launches? That isnt too difficult of a task correct? Or am I underestimating how bad the launcher is?

I got my younger cousin a RGL for the holidays, he says he loves it. Of course I trust the knowlage of everyone here over his, but still, I would like to be given an idea of just how inconsistant this launcher truely is.

(Jan. 22, 2012  9:50 PM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: [ -> ]I wasnt sure yet, so i didnt remove it. I actualy have one more point to bring up...

If the Rip Gauge Launcher is unreliable, cant the same be said for the Rev-Up launcher?

What is more, yes Rip Gauge Launcher is inconsistant, but cant testers just redo battles that have crappy launches? That isnt too difficult of a task correct? Or am I underestimating how bad the launcher is?

I got my younger cousin a RGL for the holidays, he says he loves it. Of course I trust the knowlage of everyone here over his, but still, I would like to be given an idea of just how inconsistant this launcher truely is.

Yeah, you're right, the same can be said for the Rev-Up Launcher.

It's mostly inconsistencies from person to person, not launch to launch.

What I wrote in post 1002 is what is the best thing possible.

I agree but the problem would be the lack of power Hasbro launchers have, despite them being consistant.

I have met people who dont let go of the String Launcher cord upon launch. Launcher inconsistancies will always exist, regardless of which launcher is used. Still I get what you are saying. RUL is peculiar...

Now that I think about it, i may have used RGL once, right after I gave one to my cousins it for the holidays. I dont remember many severe issues and my launchers were pretty good but I guess that is because I was doing it right. Dont hold me to that though

If it was the launcher i used, it is just a think winder. If used with sliding shoot it its decently powerful launch correct?

Regardless I am on my mobile now. When I get home I shall remove anything that isnt String and Hasbro launchers from the list

(Jan. 23, 2012  12:22 AM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: [ -> ]Now that I think about it, i may have used RGL once, right after I gave one to my cousins it for the holidays. I dont remember many severe issues and my launchers were pretty good but I guess that is because I was doing it right. Dont hold me to that though

If it was the launcher i used, it is just a think winder. If used with sliding shoot it its decently powerful launch correct?

I don't think so; I had purchased one twice (once I bought it & took it back because it wasn't powerful, then again and took it back for the same reason.) It seemed less powerful than my ripcord launcher. Maybe I just have bad luck with RGL's

I'm guessing we are not allowed to use AkirasDaddy's RUL mod?

Of course not... Any modification you wouldn't use in a tournament or for normal testing (which is pretty much any modification) isn't allowed here.