(Aug. 12, 2013 2:38 PM)Triforceblader Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 12, 2013 1:32 PM)H3LLO Wrote: [ -> ]I know that but I'm wondering if once you use a "mega stone" in battle, does it leave your inventory?
I don't know but it's probably a key item like bikes roller blades and maps
I assume its a held item like quick claw or exp share, I just wonder if a pokemon uses thief(or something similar) removeing the mega stone from them would they devolve?
I doubt nintendo would do that
Guys serebii.net just release new a new pic of Mega Absol and Mega Mawile!!
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go here to check out other news like pokemon X and Y's new soundtrack!!:
http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml
Oh and they just released another video containing the other 3 new Mega evolutions!!
@ Axel Phantom I think this vid might answer your question but I'm not sure
Honestly Mega Mawile looks a bit like Iris
I did say "It's a non-consumptive hold item; you can re-use it as many times as you like".
When you send out the Pokemon holding the Mega Stone, it'll Mega Evolve then and there. If you withdraw it, it will not revert back to normal and will stay as it's Mega Evolution. After the battle is completely finished and you return to the overworld, the Pokemon then reverts back to it's normal self and the Mega Stone stays equipped to the Pokemon (so it'll Mega Evolve again when it's sent out again).
(Aug. 12, 2013 3:07 PM)~Mana~ Wrote: [ -> ]I did say "It's a non-consumptive hold item; you can re-use it as many times as you like".
When you send out the Pokemon holding the Mega Stone, it'll Mega Evolve then and there. If you withdraw it, it will not revert back to normal and will stay as it's Mega Evolution. After the battle is completely finished and you return to the overworld, the Pokemon then reverts back to it's normal self and the Mega Stone stays equipped to the Pokemon (so it'll Mega Evolve again when it's sent out again).
Okay, I take back any Negative thoughts about this mechanic. That is AWESOME! It'll probably take different Mega Stones for different Pokemon, obviously.
I'm liking Mega Ampharos more and more every time I look at it. I'm nicknaming mine Amphabulous.
(Aug. 12, 2013 6:56 PM)Anchor Wrote: [ -> ]I'm liking Mega Ampharos more and more every time I look at it. I'm nicknaming mine Amphabulous.
Awesome I'm still wondering what I should call mine when it Mega Evolves.
I wonder if Mega evolving cues a song, maybe the theme from the trailer? And I heard somewhere that if you pre-order it you get the game in a Pokeball?
That's only for the UK Game Pre-Order. Would've totally gone for it otherwise.
USA sadly only gets a poster...
what ever happened to getting a statue of the main legendary pokemon when you preorder from gamestop? Now they're like: " We haven't done that since 2008 where have you been" I'm like: " I'm one of your customers and I got a Giratina statue in 2009 and both a Lugia and Ho-oh statue from their respected games in 2010 and she says: "Like I care"...... Geez sometimes I just want to blow up gamestop
(Aug. 12, 2013 7:46 PM)Triforceblader Wrote: [ -> ]what ever happened to getting a statue of the main legendary pokemon when you preorder from gamestop? Now they're like: " We haven't done that since 2008 where have you been" I'm like: " I'm one of your customers and I got a Giratina statue in 2009 and both a Lugia and Ho-oh statue from their respected games in 2010 and she says: "Like I care"...... Geez sometimes I just want to blow up gamestop
I've still got my Lugia. That figure was awesome. I never pre-ordered Platinum though.
Hey, a poster sounds cool too.
yeah I never knew about the Poster till today I lost my lugia when we moved
(Aug. 12, 2013 7:52 PM)Triforceblader Wrote: [ -> ]yeah I never knew about the Poster till today I lost my lugia when we moved
That's terrible.
Okay, anyone else got a theory?
I know It was my favorite figurine!! Hey so you do the Podcast right well Im submitting my entree soon.
Other than that, Serebii.net has released pictures of what the global link for X and Y shall look like. The Color of the site shall change from Maroon for Y to Royal blue for X
So here's the picture of the global link:
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this is it enlarged
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Anyone else here think Lucario may break the metagame? Mega Lucario' new ability is Adaption which means his close combat is going to do a massive 240 damage. That's stronger then a stabbed Roar of time which only does 210 after stab. Mega Lucario is also getting a speed and attack bases stat boost as well. Mega Blazekin is more or less the same as it is now. Speed boost was it's dreamworld ability this gen and now because these guys can't hold items anymore he's gonna have to run protect/detect and swords dance if he wants to attempt to sweep.
(Aug. 14, 2013 10:27 PM)BubloZX Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone else here think Lucario may break the metagame? Mega Lucario' new ability is Adaption which means his close combat is going to do a massive 240 damage. That's stronger then a stabbed Roar of time which only does 210 after stab. Mega Lucario is also getting a speed and attack bases stat boost as well. Mega Blazekin is more or less the same as it is now. Speed boost was it's dreamworld ability this gen and now because these guys can't hold items anymore he's gonna have to run protect/detect and swords dance if he wants to attempt to sweep.
Mind=Blown
I have a basic understanding of competitive "Pokes". They could ban them like Wobbafet or Wynaut or something. It can't be 240 damage.
Akio314 Wrote:I wonder if Mega evolving cues a song, maybe the theme from the trailer? And I heard somewhere that if you pre-order it you get the game in a Pokeball? (Aug. 12, 2013 7:37 PM)GaHooleone Wrote: [ -> ]That's only for the UK Game Pre-Order. Would've totally gone for it otherwise.
USA sadly only gets a poster...
How USA can solve that problem: Get a Pokeball, then put your X/Y version in the pokeball XD
(Aug. 14, 2013 10:27 PM)BubloZX Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone else here think Lucario may break the metagame? Mega Lucario' new ability is Adaption which means his close combat is going to do a massive 240 damage. That's stronger then a stabbed Roar of time which only does 210 after stab. Mega Lucario is also getting a speed and attack bases stat boost as well. Mega Blazekin is more or less the same as it is now. Speed boost was it's dreamworld ability this gen and now because these guys can't hold items anymore he's gonna have to run protect/detect and swords dance if he wants to attempt to sweep.
I don't post much, but I absolutely love Pokemon and I thought i'd share my opinion and whatnot on both the competitive and adventurous side of things.
Well, I guess that's pretty powerful, but a stab technician boosted Mach Punch from Breloom would completely waste MegaLucario; as it does on normal Lucario, and Breloom is a common threat at the moment so I don't think MegaLucario would be a huge problem (bar the possible +2 E-speed)... Even Sableye or Whimsicott could mess it up with a priority T-wave + Subleech or Will-o-wisp, they are slightly less common though.
MegaBlaziken may be just as broken as Blaziken is now (with the right conditions I.e Sun..) with the same Speed Boost, double stab tactic, or maybe an all out physical set with Protect for staking out moves and obviously getting that +1 speed in, but who knows what new threats are in stock for gen 6. We may see a new bulkemon who completely walls everything (but saying that, it would probably get banned lol.)
Imagine they introduced electro-spikes, that would be cool, like electric types could suck em up like how poison types suck up toxic spikes and they could paralyze a poke upon entry. (They would also probably get banned lol.)
Anyway, I can't wait to get myself a Noivern and Sylveon and I also wanna try out the new super training facility, should be fun aha. (Dragon slayer MegaMawile ftw)
Just for the record I'm going for X version.
(Aug. 15, 2013 12:01 AM)Akio314 Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 14, 2013 10:27 PM)BubloZX Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone else here think Lucario may break the metagame? Mega Lucario' new ability is Adaption which means his close combat is going to do a massive 240 damage. That's stronger then a stabbed Roar of time which only does 210 after stab. Mega Lucario is also getting a speed and attack bases stat boost as well. Mega Blazekin is more or less the same as it is now. Speed boost was it's dreamworld ability this gen and now because these guys can't hold items anymore he's gonna have to run protect/detect and swords dance if he wants to attempt to sweep.
Mind=Blown
I have a basic understanding of competitive "Pokes". They could ban them like Wobbafet or Wynaut or something. It can't be 240 damage.
Close combat is 240. Adaptation turns stab boost from a 1.5x multiplier to a 2x.
Regular lucario: close combat 120* 1.5=180 damage
Mega lucario: close combat 120*2=240 damage
Diagla: roar of time 150*1.5= 210 damage
And that's not even Lucario's best, if your a risk taker Hi Jump kick has base 130 attack power. You double that and you get 260 damage. Its bad enough he has access to the best priority attack move extreme speed with its base 80 damage and plus extra +1 priority, moving before moves like mach punch, sucker punch, shadow sneak, bullet punch, etc. Now Lucario has the best Close combat in the game. If you thought it was hard to switch in on Lucario now before you can just forget it all together now. Thank god I use him as my main fighter. Gotta love the Egyptian God.
(Aug. 15, 2013 1:52 AM)Hell Kid Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 14, 2013 10:27 PM)BubloZX Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone else here think Lucario may break the metagame? Mega Lucario' new ability is Adaption which means his close combat is going to do a massive 240 damage. That's stronger then a stabbed Roar of time which only does 210 after stab. Mega Lucario is also getting a speed and attack bases stat boost as well. Mega Blazekin is more or less the same as it is now. Speed boost was it's dreamworld ability this gen and now because these guys can't hold items anymore he's gonna have to run protect/detect and swords dance if he wants to attempt to sweep.
I don't post much, but I absolutely love Pokemon and I thought i'd share my opinion and whatnot on both the competitive and adventurous side of things.
Well, I guess that's pretty powerful, but a stab technician boosted Mach Punch from Breloom would completely waste MegaLucario; as it does on normal Lucario, and Breloom is a common threat at the moment so I don't think MegaLucario would be a huge problem (bar the possible +2 E-speed)... Even Sableye or Whimsicott could mess it up with a priority T-wave + Subleech or Will-o-wisp, they are slightly less common though.
MegaBlaziken may be just as broken as Blaziken is now (with the right conditions I.e Sun..) with the same Speed Boost, double stab tactic, or maybe an all out physical set with Protect for staking out moves and obviously getting that +1 speed in, but who knows what new threats are in stock for gen 6. We may see a new bulkemon who completely walls everything (but saying that, it would probably get banned lol.)
Imagine they introduced electro-spikes, that would be cool, like electric types could suck em up like how poison types suck up toxic spikes and they could paralyze a poke upon entry. (They would also probably get banned lol.)
Anyway, I can't wait to get myself a Noivern and Sylveon and I also wanna try out the new super training facility, should be fun aha. (Dragon slayer MegaMawile ftw)
Just for the record I'm going for X version.
Breloom isn't as effective a counter though. Cant switch into anything from lucario and in most scenarios Lucario is either going to have a +2 boost from swords dance which will 1hit KO even the bulkiest breloom sets. Or breloom will be soo weaken late in the game that Mega Lucario can just come in and tag it first with extreme speed. Blazekin has to be careful though because with that boost in attack power I foresee a lot of agility based lucario sets. 1 agility means Blazekin needs 3 turns to outspeed a jolly Lucario and on the turn Blazekin uses protect Lucario could very well go for the agility which means Lucario will KO Blazekin. And Blazekin doesn't get a double stab unless its fire moves under the Sun. And Blazekin isn't broken, he has many counters in OU. Because you need protect to get spped boost up then you aoutmatically lose coverage. Then if you want to use swords dance that only leaves you a 2 attack move slots. It also doesn't help that Blazekin's best fighting move is High Jump Kick. switch jellient in and your gonna either crash and KO yourself with High Jump Kick or have a fire move on hand which also won't do much. Then Gyarados can come in on you, gliscor, Hippodown, the list is huge. Lucario can just run an all attack set and still have enough power to cause serious damage with close combat. And even if you sacrifice a slot for SD or agility you can still hit many of your threats super effectively or really hurt them just from the sheer damage of that darn close combat.
Mawile still needs to watch out for garchomp. Its also important to note that most Dragons have access to super effective fire, fighting, and ground moves. And with Mawile being so darn slow there's no way it is countering much.
Did you hear that? The #1 ranked blader said he's getting X version! So anyone that thinks Y is obviously better might want to reconsider what version they want. I'm just saying that the rank 1 blader knows best XD.
Just kidding, Kid, you're still a celebrity though!
(Aug. 15, 2013 2:59 AM)Bazooka Wrote: [ -> ]Did you hear that? The #1 ranked blader said he's getting X version! So anyone that thinks Y is obviously better might want to reconsider what version they want. I'm just saying that the rank 1 blader knows best XD.
Just kidding, Kid, you're still a celebrity though!
Lol he can be the number 1 blader but I can take him in pokemon hands down.
(Aug. 14, 2013 10:27 PM)BubloZX Wrote: [ -> ]Breloom isn't as effective a counter though. Cant switch into anything from lucario and in most scenarios Lucario is either going to have a +2 boost from swords dance which will 1hit KO even the bulkiest breloom sets. Or breloom will be soo weaken late in the game that Mega Lucario can just come in and tag it first with extreme speed. Blazekin has to be careful though because with that boost in attack power I foresee a lot of agility based lucario sets. 1 agility means Blazekin needs 3 turns to outspeed a jolly Lucario and on the turn Blazekin uses protect Lucario could very well go for the agility which means Lucario will KO Blazekin. And Blazekin doesn't get a double stab unless its fire moves under the Sun. And Blazekin isn't broken, he has many counters in OU. Because you need protect to get spped boost up then you aoutmatically lose coverage. Then if you want to use swords dance that only leaves you a 2 attack move slots. It also doesn't help that Blazekin's best fighting move is High Jump Kick. switch jellient in and your gonna either crash and KO yourself with High Jump Kick or have a fire move on hand which also won't do much. Then Gyarados can come in on you, gliscor, Hippodown, the list is huge. Lucario can just run an all attack set and still have enough power to cause serious damage with close combat. And even if you sacrifice a slot for SD or agility you can still hit many of your threats super effectively or really hurt them just from the sheer damage of that darn close combat.
Mawile still needs to watch out for garchomp. Its also important to note that most Dragons have access to super effective fire, fighting, and ground moves. And with Mawile being so darn slow there's no way it is countering much.
That's why you use death fodder and then switch to Breloom, its only logical. Why in the world would you dry switch a Breloom into a lucario? I understand your other points though, nonetheless Sableye would be a very dependent counter, because the only thing Lucario could outspeed with would be E-speed and obviously that doesn't effect Sableye, in some scenarios I see Bullet Punch but then the Lucario doesn't tend to carry E-speed, so Breloom could clean up.
By double stab on Blaziken I meant the Hi Jump Kick + Flare Blitz, and Blaziken is- or should I say was broken in OU which is why it got banned. There is only one true counter to a common Blaziken set (in OU) and that is Flash Fire Chandelure because neither Flare Blitz or Hi jump kick could scratch it, although some people carry Shadow Claw, which is weird, because you have to sacrifice protect. Everything else take immense damage under the sun.
E.G 252 Atk Life Orb Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 248 HP / 216+ Def Jellicent in sun: 170-200 (42.18 - 49.62%) -- 31.25% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
With plus 2 attack (Which is commom) instead and Stealth Rock damage, there's a 75% chance to OHKO. To be honest though, any good player would be able to predict a simple switch in such as a Jellicent, if the opponent themselves feared a Hi-jump-kick.
Oh and about Mawile, I was joking aha, it would only be good for Outrage switch ins, or Calm Mind Latias sets as they mostly carry just dragon pulse for damage.
There should be another thread for all this competitive talk, it's fun and I don't wanna spam the X and Y thread.
Anyway, I would like to battle you now! On like Pokemon Online or Showdown if you know what they are? But not today or tomorrow even, ill be busy. So if you wanna battle PM me. You seem like a great player!
I always knew X was the game to role with
All that competitive talk makes my brain hurt haha
(Aug. 15, 2013 1:48 PM)H3LLO Wrote: [ -> ]I always knew X was the game to role with
All that competitive talk makes my brain hurt haha
Ha! Follow the #1 blader. XD . At least now I'm not the only one getting X.
I play Pokemon like a 7 year old would: use the pokemon you like, not necessarily the competitive ones. I won't battle with the ones that mega evolve, I'll use the ones that I like/look cool. Since I already use Ampharos, that might be the only pokemon I mega evolve and use. Competitive pokemon don't matter at all to me. I'm fine without them and have won multiple pokemon tournaments without useng all broken meta pokemon. Btw, the only reason I use Metagross is because it looks cool. I've beaten tons of competitive trainers with my team that was put together by my 7 year old self, so I don't need to rely on Mega evolutions. EV training is MY mega stone XD
It doesnt matter how strong the pokemon is, but how hard you've worked to train it.
-Mysterious guy that might be me
(Aug. 15, 2013 4:52 PM)Bazooka Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 15, 2013 1:48 PM)H3LLO Wrote: [ -> ]I always knew X was the game to role with
All that competitive talk makes my brain hurt haha
Ha! Follow the #1 blader. XD . At least now I'm not the only one getting X.
I play Pokemon like a 7 year old would: use the pokemon you like, not necessarily the competitive ones. I won't battle with the ones that mega evolve, I'll use the ones that I like/look cool. Since I already use Ampharos, that might be the only pokemon I mega evolve and use. Competitive pokemon don't matter at all to me. I'm fine without them and have won multiple pokemon tournaments without useng all broken meta pokemon. Btw, the only reason I use Metagross is because it looks cool. I've beaten tons of competitive trainers with my team that was put together by my 7 year old self, so I don't need to rely on Mega evolutions. EV training is MY mega stone XD
It doesnt matter how strong the pokemon is, but how hard you've worked to train it.
-Mysterious guy that might be me
That brings memories of Fire Red... I would like to talk more about this but we should probably take it to this thread to this doesn't get out of hand...
(Aug. 15, 2013 12:31 PM)Hell Kid Wrote: [ -> ] (Aug. 14, 2013 10:27 PM)BubloZX Wrote: [ -> ]Breloom isn't as effective a counter though. Cant switch into anything from lucario and in most scenarios Lucario is either going to have a +2 boost from swords dance which will 1hit KO even the bulkiest breloom sets. Or breloom will be soo weaken late in the game that Mega Lucario can just come in and tag it first with extreme speed. Blazekin has to be careful though because with that boost in attack power I foresee a lot of agility based lucario sets. 1 agility means Blazekin needs 3 turns to outspeed a jolly Lucario and on the turn Blazekin uses protect Lucario could very well go for the agility which means Lucario will KO Blazekin. And Blazekin doesn't get a double stab unless its fire moves under the Sun. And Blazekin isn't broken, he has many counters in OU. Because you need protect to get spped boost up then you aoutmatically lose coverage. Then if you want to use swords dance that only leaves you a 2 attack move slots. It also doesn't help that Blazekin's best fighting move is High Jump Kick. switch jellient in and your gonna either crash and KO yourself with High Jump Kick or have a fire move on hand which also won't do much. Then Gyarados can come in on you, gliscor, Hippodown, the list is huge. Lucario can just run an all attack set and still have enough power to cause serious damage with close combat. And even if you sacrifice a slot for SD or agility you can still hit many of your threats super effectively or really hurt them just from the sheer damage of that darn close combat.
Mawile still needs to watch out for garchomp. Its also important to note that most Dragons have access to super effective fire, fighting, and ground moves. And with Mawile being so darn slow there's no way it is countering much.
That's why you use death fodder and then switch to Breloom, its only logical. Why in the world would you dry switch a Breloom into a lucario? I understand your other points though, nonetheless Sableye would be a very dependent counter, because the only thing Lucario could outspeed with would be E-speed and obviously that doesn't effect Sableye, in some scenarios I see Bullet Punch but then the Lucario doesn't tend to carry E-speed, so Breloom could clean up.
By double stab on Blaziken I meant the Hi Jump Kick + Flare Blitz, and Blaziken is- or should I say was broken in OU which is why it got banned. There is only one true counter to a common Blaziken set (in OU) and that is Flash Fire Chandelure because neither Flare Blitz or Hi jump kick could scratch it, although some people carry Shadow Claw, which is weird, because you have to sacrifice protect. Everything else take immense damage under the sun.
E.G 252 Atk Life Orb Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 248 HP / 216+ Def Jellicent in sun: 170-200 (42.18 - 49.62%) -- 31.25% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
With plus 2 attack (Which is commom) instead and Stealth Rock damage, there's a 75% chance to OHKO. To be honest though, any good player would be able to predict a simple switch in such as a Jellicent, if the opponent themselves feared a Hi-jump-kick.
Oh and about Mawile, I was joking aha, it would only be good for Outrage switch ins, or Calm Mind Latias sets as they mostly carry just dragon pulse for damage.
There should be another thread for all this competitive talk, it's fun and I don't wanna spam the X and Y thread.
Anyway, I would like to battle you now! On like Pokemon Online or Showdown if you know what they are? But not today or tomorrow even, ill be busy. So if you wanna battle PM me. You seem like a great player!
I need to get one of those simulators. I have an r4i that works on my 3DS so it isn't hard for me to get what I want there. But not everyone has that benefit.
But Prankster only adds +1 priority to non attack moves. So even still it couldn't counter Lucario using the bullet punch set. Bullet punch with adaptation is just as strong as extreme speed now just doesn't have the higher priority. But it will still hit first due too Lucario being faster so he's gotta watch out for that. But Blaziken gets bent over by the likes of Multiscale dragonite and intimidate Gyarados. Hippodown can also switch in and change the weather on Blaziken who may depend on sun, if Blaziken doesn't get a sword dance up or if you predict the protect then conkeldurr can recover any damage dealt with drain punch activate guts with flame orb and finish Blaziken off with mach punch the next turn. I honestly don't think Blaziken should have been banned in all honesty it required more work than it should have to make it work. Smogon just saw speed boost and automatically thought OMG dangerous! Heck all that would have done is upped Quasire and Swapert's usage putting them in OU. It was a lazy way out