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Wyvang Discussion

Poll: What type is Wyvang best for, in your opinion?

Attack
43.64%
24
Defense
9.09%
5
Stamina
27.27%
15
Balance
20.00%
11
Total: 100% 55 vote(s)
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Jan. 12, 2013  5:02 PM
 
Yay! I'm right : D (I'm feel like a happy moron...)

Well, i think it can be used in defense, but always in the highest track possible at the top of the synchrom (Mine is used in the combo MSF-H Revizer Wyvang E230RB -still don't have MSF-H, using a normal SF until it arrives-)
I'm still thinking of making another combo with it
Jan. 12, 2013  5:09 PM
 
@Zancrow: KainHighwind did these in another thread.


MSF-H-Reviser Reviser BD145RDF vs. MF-Flash Orion S130R2F
RR always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
RR: 7 (3 OS, 4 KO)
Flash: 13 (0 OS, 13 KO)
RR Win %: 35.0%


MSF-H-Gargole Reviser BD145RDF vs. MF-Flash Orion S130R2F
GR always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
GR: 11 (8 OS, 3 KO)
Flash: 9 (0 OS, 9 KO)
GR Win %: 55.0%


MSF-H-Reviser Gargole BD145RDF vs. MF-Flash Orion S130R2F
RG always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
RG: 11 (8 OS, 3 KO)
Flash: 9 (0 OS, 9 KO)
RG Win %: 55.0%


MSF-H-Wyvang Reviser BD145RDF vs. MF-Flash Orion S130R2F
WR always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WR: 11 (6 OS, 5 KO)
Flash: 9 (0 OS, 9 KO)
WR Win %: 55.0%


MSF-H-Reviser Wyvang BD145RDF vs. MF-Flash Orion S130R2F
RW always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
RW: 11 (7 OS, 4 KO)
Flash: 9 (0 OS, 9 KO)
RW Win %: 55.0%


MSF-H-Gargole Wyvang BD145RDF vs. MF-Flash Orion S130R2F
GW always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
GW: 11 (7 OS, 4 KO)
Flash: 9 (0 OS, 9 KO)
GW Win %: 55.0%


MSF-H-Wyvang Gargole BD145RDF vs. MF-Flash Orion S130R2F
WG always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
WG: 12 (3 OS, 9 KO)
Flash: 8 (0 OS, 8 KO)
WG Win %: 60.0%


MSF-H-Reviser Reviser BD145RDF vs. MF-Flash Orion S130R2F
RR always launched first.
Detail Results (Click to View)
RR: 8 (5 OS, 3 KO)
Flash: 12 (0 OS, 12 KO)
RR Win %: 40.0%

I did the second set of Reviser Reviser tests just to make sure the wear on my RDF and Flash did not have much affect on results. My Flash was a brand new Hyperblade. My R2F was fairly new from my Samurai Pegasis, and my RDF was a few weeks old. Again, I'm posting this all on my phone, so sorry if there are any mistakes.
Jan. 12, 2013  5:17 PM
 
hey, can you try Pegasis Wyvang S130R2F? it was originally tested has Orojya Wyvang, maybe would have different results
Jan. 12, 2013  5:41 PM
 
MF-H Flash Orion S130R2F vs. MSF-H Wyvang Revizer BD145RDF

Standard Procedure:
Near Mint R2F
WORN Flash

Flash: 10 Wins (8 KO, 2 OS)
Revizer: 10 Wins (8 KO, 2 OS)
5 Draws, All Redone

Round-By-Round Results:
Spoiler (Click to View)
Revizer Win Percentage: 50%

Soooo yeah, I don't see how a worn Flash could do better than a brand-spanking new one...
If y'all want/need proof, I could record a video of a quick 5 battles.
Jan. 12, 2013  5:59 PM
 
I believe you, but I still really like it for defense, especially over Revizer Revizer, since it did better for KainHighwind and I than RR. Could you please benchmark with Revizer Revizer, because you may just be really good with attack and RR may get worse results.
Jan. 12, 2013  6:49 PM
 
@Zancrow, what is the condition of your RDF? I noticed Flash actually got a few OS, which is sometimes an indication that an RDF is worn to the point where it is easy to scrape after it gets hit. The reason I like Wyvang for defense is cause it hits back. If you notice in my tests, when Wyvang was on bottom it had a lot more KO wins because that put it at a level where it was Flash's main contact point. If you are going to use Flash with S130, try Reviser Wyvang instead, and see the difference. However, maybe it should be noted that since it does have more recoil than Reviser, it should be used with a newer RDF.
Jan. 12, 2013  6:53 PM
 
I'm not understanding what you're saying...my Wyvang is on the bottom Speechless
Jan. 12, 2013  7:00 PM
 
I know, which makes it the main contact for Flash at 130 height. Since you are seeing a good amount of recoil from Wyvang, then try Reviser Wyvang. That way Flash will make more contact with Reviser instead.
Jan. 12, 2013  7:28 PM
 
I just tested against E230, and Wyvang did good.
MSF Goreim Wyvang TR145 RF vs MSF-H Revizer Revizer E230 RSF(Ray Gil Mold)
Wyvang:11 Wins(All KO)
Revizer:11 Wins(7 OS,4 KO)
2 Ties
I think that someone better than me with attack could make this 55 or 60 percent.
Jan. 12, 2013  8:00 PM
 
MF-H Flash Orion S130R2F vs. MSF-H Revizer Wyvang BD145RDF

Flash: 9 Wins (8 KO, 1 OS)
Wyvang: 11 Wins (9 KO, 2 OS)
2 Draws, Both Redone
Round-By-Round Results:
Spoiler (Click to View)
Wyvang Win Percentage: 55%

On the topic of my RDF being worn as to why Flash is OSing, my RDF isn't worn, the OSes are from when Wyvang/Revizer get hugely wall-saved, and it has very little stamina left.

(Jan. 12, 2013  7:28 PM)ShinobuXD Wrote: I just tested against E230, and Wyvang did good.
MSF Goreim Wyvang TR145 RF vs MSF-H Revizer Revizer E230 RSF(Ray Gil Mold)
Wyvang:11 Wins(All KO)
Revizer:11 Wins(7 OS,4 KO)
2 Ties[b]
I think that someone better than me with attack could make this 55 or 60 percent.
Why choose 22 rounds lol?
Jan. 12, 2013  8:32 PM
 
Idk, haha.

I have a request: could someone with two RFs/R2Fs of the same condition test MSF-H Goreim Wyvang BD145 RF/R2F against MF-H Flash Orion S130 RF/R2F? I want to see if Wyvang does good as an anti-attacker, which is why I want to see the RFs or R2Fs in the same exact condition, whether it be prime or new.
Jan. 12, 2013  8:49 PM
 
How's an LRF and an R2F?
Jan. 12, 2013  8:55 PM
 
That would be fine too.
Jan. 12, 2013  10:44 PM
 
MSF-H Goreim Wyvang BD145LRF vs. MF-H Flash Orion S130R2F

Standard Procedure:
Both R2F and LRF in prime
Worn Flash

Wyvang: 18 Wins (14 KO, 4 OS)
Flash: 2 Wins (2 KO, 0 OS)
Wyvang Win Percentage: 90%
3 Draws, all redone

This was completely one-sided lol Not that I'm surprised, seeing how amazing Wyvang is for Attack + its weight + BD145 is BD145. Flash's only wins are win it would have been a draw, but Flash got wall-saved. Also, just so nobody gets the wrong idea about this combo;

MSF-H Goreim Wyvang BD145R2F vs. MF-H Flash Orion W145MF

Standard Procedure:
R2F in its prime
Worn Flash

Wyvang: 19 Wins (18 KO, 1 OS)
Flash: 1 Wins (0 KO, 1 OS)
Wyvang Win Percentage: 95%
1 Draw, redone

Flash stands even worse of a chance on MF, it has barely enough grip to keep itself from slamming into my wall xD
Jan. 12, 2013  10:57 PM
 
Thank you so much for those! I'm definitley gonna have to do some anti-attack tests this afternoon. Wyvang just keeps getting better and better!
Jan. 13, 2013  1:46 AM
 
I figured I might as well contribute to the thread since I like Wyvang so much...

Equipment:
BB-10 Stadium
Red String Launcher

Out of 20 rounds.

MSF Balro Wyvang CH120 (145 Mode) R2F (Worn) vs. Reviser Saramanda E230EDS
Wyvang win percentage: 55% (I forgot to count OS and KO's, sorry)
One draw which was redone.

MSF Balro Wyvang CH120 R2F (Worn) vs. Reviser Saramanda E230EDS
Wyvang win percentage: 45%
Notes: Reviser Saramanda mostly one because Wyvang skimmed on the bottom of the stadium.

And I also did my own Goreim Wyvang tests for comparison. I only tested it on 145 though.

MSF Goreim Wyvang CH120 (145 Mode) vs. Reviser Saramanda E230EDS
Wyvang win percentage: 50%

Sorry if it's a little messy.
Jan. 13, 2013  2:01 AM
 
EDS is a very bad tip for a defense combo. It is a stamina tip that is very easy to KO. You need to try CS, RDF, RSF, RB, or RS.
Jan. 13, 2013  2:05 AM
 
Ok sorry. I will try RS any repost.
Jan. 13, 2013  2:11 AM
 
TBH, if Balro Wyvang only did that well against a bad defense combo, then I don't have much hopes for it against a real one :\
Especially when I already tried Balro a little in some informal testing, and it just wasn't near as good as Gryph or Goreim for me.
Jan. 13, 2013  2:43 AM
 
Oh, well I tested it anyway. They were't that great...

Equipment:
BB-10
Red String Launcher

Balro Wyvang CH120 (145) RF (My RF was less worn and I figured it would have a better chance) vs. Reviser Saramanda E230RS
Wyvang: 4 wins, all KO's
Saramanda: 16 wins, all OS's
Wyvang win percentage: 20%

Goreim Wyvang CH120 (145) RF vs. Reviser Saramanda E230RS
Wyvang: 4 wins, all KO's
Saramanda: 16 wins, all OS's
Wyvang win percentage: 20%
One Draw which was redone.

I'm surprised Goreim Wyvang didn't do better than Balro.... Perhaps it was because I used a RF unlike in your testing, Zancrow?
Jan. 13, 2013  3:17 AM
 
I used RF and got 50%. Granted, RS has more defense than RSF, but it should probably be higher. Try testing against something like RSF/CS/RB/RDF.
Jan. 13, 2013  3:22 AM
 
The fact it is RF instead of R2F is not going to make that big of a difference. RS and skill is going to make the biggest difference, cause RS is a better pure defense tip. Also, I don't know how you were launching but I noticed, with Goreim Wyvang especially, that you really don't need to do a sliding shot, because a simple somewhat deep bank works very well.
Jan. 13, 2013  3:42 AM
 
shinobu, I dont have a RSF, RB or RDF, but I do have a CS, except it's not aggressive. Would tht be ok to test?
KainHighwind, I aligned my launcher in a angle with the slope and launched, which generally works for me.

Has anyone tried a Dragooon Wyvang combo? Forgive me if Dragooon isn't good for attack.
Jan. 13, 2013  4:24 AM
 
Wow MSF-H Goreim Wyvang BD145LRF seems great for anti-attack. How would GF work for it? Id really love to see some MSF-H Goreim Wyvang BD145GF tests. haha.
Jan. 13, 2013  3:19 PM
 
would wyvang be a good balance type like I like to use killkren wyvang sp230hf as a balance
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