Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events

A Midsummer Day's Heat - BST Unranked
July 2, 2022
Sugar Land, Texas

1st Place: raybuster
Dynamite (F, L) Belial II Wheel Bearing'
Guilty Spriggan Karma Xtreme' 10
Prominence Belial Over High Xtend+' 0

2nd Place: TroyMod
Guilty Longinus Giga Metal Xtreme 2
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Bearing' 0
Dynamite Valkyrie 2 Over High Xtend+' 9

3rd Place: Khoa Ly
Dynamite (F, L) Belial II Wheel Xtend+
Prominence Valkyrie Over High Xtend+' 10
Savior Perseus Nexus+S Destroy' 7
(Jul. 05, 2022  4:43 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote:
(Jul. 05, 2022  4:20 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: Both of mine are weak springs, though you're not the first to claim to have a Quattro with normal spring locks. They seem to exist, though they're not particularly common? You've gotten really lucky to not just get one, but three like that.

How weak we talking Magik? Like Bearing weak?

Only time I’ve really had burst issues (and by issues I mean regularly burst, not just occasionally) was using Qt on stock Astral Spriggan

Bearing/Iron weak, yes. Both of mine act like their springs, but since the base is so heavy it's also kinda like putting that spring on Planet? I dunno, it really seems to necessitate a burst stopper of some kind to hold together for me on nearly anything that isn't by default super burst resistant.
(Jul. 06, 2022  12:36 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:
(Jul. 05, 2022  4:43 PM)SupaDav03 Wrote: How weak we talking Magik? Like Bearing weak?

Only time I’ve really had burst issues (and by issues I mean regularly burst, not just occasionally) was using Qt on stock Astral Spriggan

Bearing/Iron weak, yes. Both of mine act like their springs, but since the base is so heavy it's also kinda like putting that spring on Planet? I dunno, it really seems to necessitate a burst stopper of some kind to hold together for me on nearly anything that isn't by default super burst resistant.

So my iron is better than my two Br, and my Quattros are better than my Iron... So only barely weaker than normal if at all
(Jul. 10, 2022  8:59 AM)th!nk Wrote:
(Jul. 06, 2022  12:36 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: Bearing/Iron weak, yes. Both of mine act like their springs, but since the base is so heavy it's also kinda like putting that spring on Planet? I dunno, it really seems to necessitate a burst stopper of some kind to hold together for me on nearly anything that isn't by default super burst resistant.

So my iron is better than my two Br, and my Quattros are better than my Iron... So only barely weaker than normal if at all

All I can say is "part variation". I'm far from the only one that has these issues, and I've seen one personally with a spring lock stronger than both of my own copies.

There's definitely variance here, and it means that most of them are worse than yours.
THE FOUNDATIONS OF BEY (BST) - 6/26/22
Toronto, ON, Canada - Burst Format - Unranked (First Stage 1on1, Final Stage 5G)

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1st: Rew Rose
Guilty Longinus Legacy Xceed'-Z-7
Divine Valkyrie FGear Karma Zone’+Z-2
Devil (F Gear) Belial Karma Bearing'-9 (5G Finals Only)
Astral Fafnir Over Metal Drift-6 (5G Finals Only)
Divine (F Gear) Valkyrie Giga Drift-2 (5G Finals Only)

2nd: Kei
Vanish Longinus Over Bearing'-3
Vanish Bahamut Over Bearing'-3
Dynamite Belial 2 Over Bearing'-6
Astral Spriggan Nexus (S Gear) Drift-2 (5G Finals Only)
Dynamite Belial 2 Over Bearing-6 (5G Finals Only)

3rd: Dan
Guilty Longinus Over Xtreme'-2
Vanish Longinus Giga High Xtend+'-0
Devil (F, L Gear) Belial 2 Over Moment
Guilty Bahamut Karma Xtreme'-2
World Spriggan Blitz Drift 1S (5G Finals Only)
Saviour Valkyrie 2 Tapered Quick’-7 (5G Finals Only)

4th: Skotty Dawg

This was Toronto’s first ever event using the 5G Match Type. I had been wanting to try it out ever since first trying it in Japan back in 2020 when it was introduced by the WBBA.

What I realized going into this event was that the rules really promote safety for the first few rounds given that KOs are worth two points. As such, my choices revolved around as much safety as possible for the first three picks. Then, the last two picks became progressively more risky because it is at that point where the score is likely to be at 2-1 or 2-2 anyways, so you have nothing to lose and have likely already exhausted most of your top, top tier stamina/defense combo choices.

That being said, certainly you can catch people off-guard in the first few battles too with an attack type; you just put yourself at risk at the same time. But if you’re confident it will work. That’s why I lost against Rew Rose; he scored a KO with Guilty versus my Astral in the first round. I battled back, but lost 3-2 ultimately.

I enjoyed the intensity manufactured by the danger of the two point KO in a three point match, even in stamina matches. It places so much emphasis on preparation and ensuring your launching skills instinctually are top class. And I enjoyed being able to see spin direction as an option for this format; it’s just not overpowered in the same way it is in the 1on1 Match Type.

One of the things we debated after this event was whether to make any adjustments to the rules for BEYBLADE NORTH 2022 Sunday event which will also be using 5G. Ultimately, I’ve decided to try running 5G to five points at BEYBLADE NORTH 2022 as I am still in a phase where I’d like to experiment. But I’m not convinced yet that it will be the ‘best’ way to run the match type. Another way we discussed was running it to 3 points, but lowering the value of KOs to 1 point. It will probably come down to personal preference as they each evoke the consideration of a slightly different strategy.
Interesting observations on 5G. It seems like a cool if not super accessible format. I will wait patiently on how the 5 point result goes.

(Jul. 10, 2022  8:11 PM)MagikHorse Wrote:
(Jul. 10, 2022  8:59 AM)th!nk Wrote: So my iron is better than my two Br, and my Quattros are better than my Iron... So only barely weaker than normal if at all

All I can say is "part variation". I'm far from the only one that has these issues, and I've seen one personally with a spring lock stronger than both of my own copies.

There's definitely variance here, and it means that most of them are worse than yours.

Does it? Or are only people with weak springs noticing and talking about it. The difference in numbers between mostly normal and weak springs isn't that huge.
beyblade Midwest: Balro Blitz results:

First Place: ItsSwift
MSF-L Genbull Genbull 90 EWD, MSF Wyvang Dragooon BD145 RDF, MF-L Duo Cygnus B:D

Second Place: MagikHorse
MSF-Balro Balro GB145R2F,
MSF2-L Dragooon Zirago BD145RDF,
Dragooon Genbull 85EWD,
Basalt Beelzeb S130WD,
Wyvang Wyvang CH120RSF,
MSF2-L Dragooon Killerken BD145EWD (Deck Format Only)

Third Place: bladekid
dragoon wyvang BD145 RDF,
Dragoon Kraken BD145 RDF ,
Kraken Genbu LW105 WD ,
Genbu Genbu 90 WD ,
Zirago Zirago E230 MB,
Genbu Zirago E230 MB,

fourth Place: Mr. Memes
MSF-M Wyvang Dragoon
BD145 RDF (first stage),
MSF-H Reviser Dragoon SA165 RDF (Final),
MF Flash Orion S130 RF (Final),
MSF-L KillerkenKillerken E230 CS (First stage),
KillerkenReviser E230 CS,
(Jul. 12, 2022  2:05 AM)JA Industries. Wrote: beyblade Midwest: Balro Blitz results:

First Place: ItsSwift
MSF-L Genbull Genbull 90 EWD, MSF Wyvang Dragooon BD145 RDF, MF-L Duo Cygnus BGrin

Second Place: MagikHorse
MSF-Balro Balro GB145R2F,
MSF2-L Dragooon Zirago BD145RDF,
Dragooon Genbull 85EWD,
Basalt Beelzeb S130WD,
Wyvang Wyvang CH120RSF,
MSF2-L Dragooon Killerken BD145EWD (Deck Format Only)

Third Place: bladekid
dragoon wyvang BD145 RDF,
Dragoon Kraken BD145 RDF ,
Kraken Genbu LW105 WD ,
Genbu Genbu 90 WD ,
Zirago Zirago E230 MB,
Genbu Zirago E230 MB,

fourth Place: Mr. Memes
MSF-M Wyvang Dragoon
BD145 RDF (first stage),
MSF-H Reviser Dragoon SA165 RDF (Final),
MF Flash Orion S130 RF (Final),
MSF-L KillerkenKillerken E230 CS (First stage),
KillerkenReviser E230 CS,
Jeez why is the wiki so wrong sometime:
Beelzeb Ring: Too round for attack, too light and not round enough for stamina, synergises well with Flash in Attack Mode, therefore must have becuz last aspect:
MagikHorse: *Uses it on Defense anyway.*
Boring Tournament - BST Tournament, 1v1, Ranked
July 9, 2022
Silver Spring, MD

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1st) JCMakeEmBurstDynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-0 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Perseus+F Over Bearing'-0
Dynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-9 (Deck Format Only)
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0 (Deck Format Only)
World Spriggan 1S Giga Drift (Deck Format Only)
Prominence Valkyrie1 Fortress Metal Drift-9

2nd) The Supreme One

Dynamite Kerbeus+F Over Bearing'-10 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Perseus+F Over Bearing'-10
Vanish Longinus Giga Drift-0
Guilty Fafnir Nexus S-gear X'-2 (Deck Format Only)
Roar Fafnir Giga Metal Drift-0 (Deck Format Only

3rd) CrisisCrusher07Dynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-9
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0


Okay I'm done trying to fight with the formatting on this post.
(Jul. 11, 2022  8:54 AM)th!nk Wrote: Interesting observations on 5G. It seems like a cool if not super accessible format. I will wait patiently on how the 5 point result goes.

(Jul. 10, 2022  8:11 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: All I can say is "part variation". I'm far from the only one that has these issues, and I've seen one personally with a spring lock stronger than both of my own copies.

There's definitely variance here, and it means that most of them are worse than yours.

Does it? Or are only people with weak springs noticing and talking about it. The difference in numbers between mostly normal and weak springs isn't that huge.

It's possible that only particularly bad ones are talking about it, however I recall a fairly large percentage talking about this issue when Quattro first released. It just doesn't feel very likely that only the people I know and talk regularly got weaker springs over everyone else, that just seems rather unlikely at best.

Not sure which numbers you're talking about here either, unless you're talking rote spring strength numbers upon which case I can say little because I don't have any method to measure that short of pressing by hand and guessing. Not a very good system, that.
(Jul. 13, 2022  4:41 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Boring Tournament - BST Tournament, 1v1, Ranked
July 9, 2022
Silver Spring, MD

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1st) JCMakeEmBurstDynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-0 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Perseus+F Over Bearing'-0
Dynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-9 (Deck Format Only)
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0 (Deck Format Only)
World Spriggan 1S Giga Drift (Deck Format Only)
Prominence Valkyrie1 Fortress Metal Drift-9

2nd) The Supreme One

Dynamite Kerbeus+F Over Bearing'-10 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Perseus+F Over Bearing'-10
Vanish Longinus Giga Drift-0
Guilty Fafnir Nexus S-gear X'-2 (Deck Format Only)
Roar Fafnir Giga Metal Drift-0 (Deck Format Only

3rd) CrisisCrusher07Dynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-9
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0


Okay I'm done trying to fight with the formatting on this post.
You can spam parts now?
(Jul. 14, 2022  12:54 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: You can spam parts now?

What you have written does not make any sense.
(Jul. 14, 2022  1:47 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote:
(Jul. 14, 2022  12:54 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: You can spam parts now?

What you have written does not make any sense.
I think they're referring to JCMakeEmBurst's two Dynamite Perseus combos that both use Bearing' and The Supreme One's two Dynamite combos that both use Over, Bearing', and the 10 armor.
(Jul. 14, 2022  12:54 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote:
(Jul. 13, 2022  4:41 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Boring Tournament - BST Tournament, 1v1, Ranked
July 9, 2022
Silver Spring, MD

[Image: top3boring.png]

1st) JCMakeEmBurstDynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-0 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Perseus+F Over Bearing'-0
Dynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-9 (Deck Format Only)
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0 (Deck Format Only)
World Spriggan 1S Giga Drift (Deck Format Only)
Prominence Valkyrie1 Fortress Metal Drift-9

2nd) The Supreme One

Dynamite Kerbeus+F Over Bearing'-10 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Perseus+F Over Bearing'-10
Vanish Longinus Giga Drift-0
Guilty Fafnir Nexus S-gear X'-2 (Deck Format Only)
Roar Fafnir Giga Metal Drift-0 (Deck Format Only

3rd) CrisisCrusher07Dynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-9
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0


Okay I'm done trying to fight with the formatting on this post.
You can spam parts now?

I'm pretty sure that this is simply different combos from separate sets of 3 for the finals. since there is a minimum of two matches for a deck format stage of tournaments, there could easily be two different sets of combos they use in finals, semi-finals, quarter finals etc.

Put it simply, you can't have a repeating part for a deck in one setting, but there are so many variations that could be used by the time you got to the final round, which is why there are combos indicated for the final rounds with same parts on them.
(Jul. 14, 2022  1:50 AM)WD35 Wrote:
(Jul. 14, 2022  1:47 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: What you have written does not make any sense.
I think they're referring to JCMakeEmBurst's two Dynamite Perseus combos that both use Bearing' and The Supreme One's two Dynamite combos that both use Over, Bearing', and the 10 armor.
I can confirm that getting 1st place, JC had 3 matches in the finals. I can also confirm that he used a different deck in match 3 than the first two matches.

People can change their deck between matches.
(Jul. 14, 2022  12:52 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:
(Jul. 11, 2022  8:54 AM)th!nk Wrote: Interesting observations on 5G. It seems like a cool if not super accessible format. I will wait patiently on how the 5 point result goes.


Does it? Or are only people with weak springs noticing and talking about it. The difference in numbers between mostly normal and weak springs isn't that huge.

It's possible that only particularly bad ones are talking about it, however I recall a fairly large percentage talking about this issue when Quattro first released. It just doesn't feel very likely that only the people I know and talk regularly got weaker springs over everyone else, that just seems rather unlikely at best.

Not sure which numbers you're talking about here either, unless you're talking rote spring strength numbers upon which case I can say little because I don't have any method to measure that short of pressing by hand and guessing. Not a very good system, that.

I meant in terms of number of people reporting either now.

Moot point tho, Qt' coming 👀
(Jul. 14, 2022  5:40 AM)th!nk Wrote:
(Jul. 14, 2022  12:52 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: It's possible that only particularly bad ones are talking about it, however I recall a fairly large percentage talking about this issue when Quattro first released. It just doesn't feel very likely that only the people I know and talk regularly got weaker springs over everyone else, that just seems rather unlikely at best.

Not sure which numbers you're talking about here either, unless you're talking rote spring strength numbers upon which case I can say little because I don't have any method to measure that short of pressing by hand and guessing. Not a very good system, that.

I meant in terms of number of people reporting either now.

Moot point tho, Qt' coming 👀

Truuue! Honestly want to try that bad boy out, along with our 48 mode Achilles.
(Jul. 14, 2022  6:55 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: Truuue! Honestly want to try that bad boy out, along with our 48 mode Achilles.
Gosh that’s going to be a nightmare for WC, I can see a scenario playing out in my head;

“The one combo I used all tournament was Zest Achilles Nx+S Qt’-4”
“Okay… what mode, or modes? Did you use just one, or multiple?”
“I think I used multiple, but I can’t remember which ones”
“Do you remember how many you used?”
“No”

And the scenario continues on and on until everyone gives up because they can’t figure out what the person actually used for the entire tournament
(Jul. 14, 2022  11:57 PM)henwooja1 Wrote:
(Jul. 14, 2022  6:55 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: Truuue! Honestly want to try that bad boy out, along with our 48 mode Achilles.
Gosh that’s going to be a nightmare for WC, I can see a scenario playing out in my head;

“The one combo I used all tournament was Zest Achilles Nx+S Qt’-4”
“Okay… what mode, or modes? Did you use just one, or multiple?”
“I think I used multiple, but I can’t remember which ones”
“Do you remember how many you used?”
“No”

And the scenario continues on and on until everyone gives up because they can’t figure out what the person actually used for the entire tournament

At least the thread only lists the combos, not the modes... right?
(Jul. 15, 2022  3:33 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:
(Jul. 14, 2022  11:57 PM)henwooja1 Wrote: Gosh that’s going to be a nightmare for WC, I can see a scenario playing out in my head;

  “The one combo I used all tournament was Zest Achilles Nx+S Qt’-4”
  “Okay… what mode, or modes? Did you use just one, or multiple?”
  “I think I used multiple, but I can’t remember which ones”
  “Do you remember how many you used?”
  “No”

And the scenario continues on and on until everyone gives up because they can’t figure out what the person actually used for the entire tournament

At least the thread only lists the combos, not the modes... right?
I think so. I see a lot of Nx+S but they don't say what mode. Same for Hxt+' and DB Layers (High/Low)
Yeah combos don’t usually list the modes. Or the spin direction for that matter, though that would count as a mode.
(Jul. 15, 2022  3:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: I think so. I see a lot of Nx+S but they don't say what mode. Same for Hxt+' and DB Layers (High/Low)

True. Still, 48+ modes will make it difficult for clarity
(Jul. 16, 2022  12:15 PM)henwooja1 Wrote:
(Jul. 15, 2022  3:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: I think so. I see a lot of Nx+S but they don't say what mode. Same for Hxt+' and DB Layers (High/Low)

True. Still, 48+ modes will make it difficult for clarity

To be fair, I don't think it'll be particularly good looking at its shape. I doubt it'll be such a big worry.
(Jul. 16, 2022  12:15 PM)henwooja1 Wrote:
(Jul. 15, 2022  3:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: I think so. I see a lot of Nx+S but they don't say what mode. Same for Hxt+' and DB Layers (High/Low)

True. Still, 48+ modes will make it difficult for clarity

I personally don't think it will cause clarity issues. 48 modes is in reference to the full Zest Achilles combo itself (2 spin directions x 3 Layer configurations x 2 High/Low x 4 Quattro settings). If you take Quattro out of the equation and High/Low, that's more like 6 relevant modes to mention: namely which spin direction and which Layer mode it's in.
JCE's Burst (Standard) - BST Tournament, Ranked
July 23, 2022
Vero Beach, FL


1st) JCE_13
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Vanish Bahamut Tapered Metal Survive -6
Vanish Bahamut Over High Xtend+' -6
Guilty Longinus Nexus+S Metal Drift -0
Guilty Longinus Over Zone' + HasZ -0
Xiphoid Xcalibur Xanthus Sword' -1 (Deck Only)

2nd) Nate725
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Dynamite (F) Kerbeus Over Quattro -6
Vanish Longinus Tapered Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over Never -2
Vanish Bahamut Giga Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)
Roar Fafnir Fortress Never -10
Guilty Longinus Giga Destroy' -2 (Deck Only)
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)

3rd) SupaDav03
Vanish Longinus Over Moment -3
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-3
Devil (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Dynamite (F) Kerbeus Over Quattro -6
Xiphoid Xcalibur Fortress Destroy' -4 (Deck Only)
Vanish Fafnir Over Wave' -7
Vanish Longinus Giga Metal Drift -3 (Deck Only)
Prominence Belial II Tapered Mobius -10
Roar Fafnir Tapered Bearing' -2

4th) Optimus1227