Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events

(Jul. 11, 2022  8:54 AM)th!nk Wrote: Interesting observations on 5G. It seems like a cool if not super accessible format. I will wait patiently on how the 5 point result goes.

(Jul. 10, 2022  8:11 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: All I can say is "part variation". I'm far from the only one that has these issues, and I've seen one personally with a spring lock stronger than both of my own copies.

There's definitely variance here, and it means that most of them are worse than yours.

Does it? Or are only people with weak springs noticing and talking about it. The difference in numbers between mostly normal and weak springs isn't that huge.

It's possible that only particularly bad ones are talking about it, however I recall a fairly large percentage talking about this issue when Quattro first released. It just doesn't feel very likely that only the people I know and talk regularly got weaker springs over everyone else, that just seems rather unlikely at best.

Not sure which numbers you're talking about here either, unless you're talking rote spring strength numbers upon which case I can say little because I don't have any method to measure that short of pressing by hand and guessing. Not a very good system, that.
(Jul. 13, 2022  4:41 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Boring Tournament - BST Tournament, 1v1, Ranked
July 9, 2022
Silver Spring, MD

[Image: top3boring.png]

1st) JCMakeEmBurstDynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-0 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Perseus+F Over Bearing'-0
Dynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-9 (Deck Format Only)
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0 (Deck Format Only)
World Spriggan 1S Giga Drift (Deck Format Only)
Prominence Valkyrie1 Fortress Metal Drift-9

2nd) The Supreme One

Dynamite Kerbeus+F Over Bearing'-10 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Perseus+F Over Bearing'-10
Vanish Longinus Giga Drift-0
Guilty Fafnir Nexus S-gear X'-2 (Deck Format Only)
Roar Fafnir Giga Metal Drift-0 (Deck Format Only

3rd) CrisisCrusher07Dynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-9
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0


Okay I'm done trying to fight with the formatting on this post.
You can spam parts now?
(Jul. 14, 2022  12:54 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: You can spam parts now?

What you have written does not make any sense.
(Jul. 14, 2022  1:47 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote:
(Jul. 14, 2022  12:54 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: You can spam parts now?

What you have written does not make any sense.
I think they're referring to JCMakeEmBurst's two Dynamite Perseus combos that both use Bearing' and The Supreme One's two Dynamite combos that both use Over, Bearing', and the 10 armor.
(Jul. 14, 2022  12:54 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote:
(Jul. 13, 2022  4:41 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: Boring Tournament - BST Tournament, 1v1, Ranked
July 9, 2022
Silver Spring, MD

[Image: top3boring.png]

1st) JCMakeEmBurstDynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-0 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Perseus+F Over Bearing'-0
Dynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-9 (Deck Format Only)
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0 (Deck Format Only)
World Spriggan 1S Giga Drift (Deck Format Only)
Prominence Valkyrie1 Fortress Metal Drift-9

2nd) The Supreme One

Dynamite Kerbeus+F Over Bearing'-10 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Perseus+F Over Bearing'-10
Vanish Longinus Giga Drift-0
Guilty Fafnir Nexus S-gear X'-2 (Deck Format Only)
Roar Fafnir Giga Metal Drift-0 (Deck Format Only

3rd) CrisisCrusher07Dynamite Perseus+F Tapered Bearing'-9
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0


Okay I'm done trying to fight with the formatting on this post.
You can spam parts now?

I'm pretty sure that this is simply different combos from separate sets of 3 for the finals. since there is a minimum of two matches for a deck format stage of tournaments, there could easily be two different sets of combos they use in finals, semi-finals, quarter finals etc.

Put it simply, you can't have a repeating part for a deck in one setting, but there are so many variations that could be used by the time you got to the final round, which is why there are combos indicated for the final rounds with same parts on them.
(Jul. 14, 2022  1:50 AM)WD35 Wrote:
(Jul. 14, 2022  1:47 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: What you have written does not make any sense.
I think they're referring to JCMakeEmBurst's two Dynamite Perseus combos that both use Bearing' and The Supreme One's two Dynamite combos that both use Over, Bearing', and the 10 armor.
I can confirm that getting 1st place, JC had 3 matches in the finals. I can also confirm that he used a different deck in match 3 than the first two matches.

People can change their deck between matches.
(Jul. 14, 2022  12:52 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:
(Jul. 11, 2022  8:54 AM)th!nk Wrote: Interesting observations on 5G. It seems like a cool if not super accessible format. I will wait patiently on how the 5 point result goes.


Does it? Or are only people with weak springs noticing and talking about it. The difference in numbers between mostly normal and weak springs isn't that huge.

It's possible that only particularly bad ones are talking about it, however I recall a fairly large percentage talking about this issue when Quattro first released. It just doesn't feel very likely that only the people I know and talk regularly got weaker springs over everyone else, that just seems rather unlikely at best.

Not sure which numbers you're talking about here either, unless you're talking rote spring strength numbers upon which case I can say little because I don't have any method to measure that short of pressing by hand and guessing. Not a very good system, that.

I meant in terms of number of people reporting either now.

Moot point tho, Qt' coming 👀
(Jul. 14, 2022  5:40 AM)th!nk Wrote:
(Jul. 14, 2022  12:52 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: It's possible that only particularly bad ones are talking about it, however I recall a fairly large percentage talking about this issue when Quattro first released. It just doesn't feel very likely that only the people I know and talk regularly got weaker springs over everyone else, that just seems rather unlikely at best.

Not sure which numbers you're talking about here either, unless you're talking rote spring strength numbers upon which case I can say little because I don't have any method to measure that short of pressing by hand and guessing. Not a very good system, that.

I meant in terms of number of people reporting either now.

Moot point tho, Qt' coming 👀

Truuue! Honestly want to try that bad boy out, along with our 48 mode Achilles.
(Jul. 14, 2022  6:55 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: Truuue! Honestly want to try that bad boy out, along with our 48 mode Achilles.
Gosh that’s going to be a nightmare for WC, I can see a scenario playing out in my head;

“The one combo I used all tournament was Zest Achilles Nx+S Qt’-4”
“Okay… what mode, or modes? Did you use just one, or multiple?”
“I think I used multiple, but I can’t remember which ones”
“Do you remember how many you used?”
“No”

And the scenario continues on and on until everyone gives up because they can’t figure out what the person actually used for the entire tournament
(Jul. 14, 2022  11:57 PM)henwooja1 Wrote:
(Jul. 14, 2022  6:55 AM)MagikHorse Wrote: Truuue! Honestly want to try that bad boy out, along with our 48 mode Achilles.
Gosh that’s going to be a nightmare for WC, I can see a scenario playing out in my head;

“The one combo I used all tournament was Zest Achilles Nx+S Qt’-4”
“Okay… what mode, or modes? Did you use just one, or multiple?”
“I think I used multiple, but I can’t remember which ones”
“Do you remember how many you used?”
“No”

And the scenario continues on and on until everyone gives up because they can’t figure out what the person actually used for the entire tournament

At least the thread only lists the combos, not the modes... right?
(Jul. 15, 2022  3:33 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:
(Jul. 14, 2022  11:57 PM)henwooja1 Wrote: Gosh that’s going to be a nightmare for WC, I can see a scenario playing out in my head;

  “The one combo I used all tournament was Zest Achilles Nx+S Qt’-4”
  “Okay… what mode, or modes? Did you use just one, or multiple?”
  “I think I used multiple, but I can’t remember which ones”
  “Do you remember how many you used?”
  “No”

And the scenario continues on and on until everyone gives up because they can’t figure out what the person actually used for the entire tournament

At least the thread only lists the combos, not the modes... right?
I think so. I see a lot of Nx+S but they don't say what mode. Same for Hxt+' and DB Layers (High/Low)
Yeah combos don’t usually list the modes. Or the spin direction for that matter, though that would count as a mode.
(Jul. 15, 2022  3:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: I think so. I see a lot of Nx+S but they don't say what mode. Same for Hxt+' and DB Layers (High/Low)

True. Still, 48+ modes will make it difficult for clarity
(Jul. 16, 2022  12:15 PM)henwooja1 Wrote:
(Jul. 15, 2022  3:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: I think so. I see a lot of Nx+S but they don't say what mode. Same for Hxt+' and DB Layers (High/Low)

True. Still, 48+ modes will make it difficult for clarity

To be fair, I don't think it'll be particularly good looking at its shape. I doubt it'll be such a big worry.
(Jul. 16, 2022  12:15 PM)henwooja1 Wrote:
(Jul. 15, 2022  3:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: I think so. I see a lot of Nx+S but they don't say what mode. Same for Hxt+' and DB Layers (High/Low)

True. Still, 48+ modes will make it difficult for clarity

I personally don't think it will cause clarity issues. 48 modes is in reference to the full Zest Achilles combo itself (2 spin directions x 3 Layer configurations x 2 High/Low x 4 Quattro settings). If you take Quattro out of the equation and High/Low, that's more like 6 relevant modes to mention: namely which spin direction and which Layer mode it's in.
JCE's Burst (Standard) - BST Tournament, Ranked
July 23, 2022
Vero Beach, FL


1st) JCE_13
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Vanish Bahamut Tapered Metal Survive -6
Vanish Bahamut Over High Xtend+' -6
Guilty Longinus Nexus+S Metal Drift -0
Guilty Longinus Over Zone' + HasZ -0
Xiphoid Xcalibur Xanthus Sword' -1 (Deck Only)

2nd) Nate725
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Dynamite (F) Kerbeus Over Quattro -6
Vanish Longinus Tapered Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over Never -2
Vanish Bahamut Giga Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)
Roar Fafnir Fortress Never -10
Guilty Longinus Giga Destroy' -2 (Deck Only)
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)

3rd) SupaDav03
Vanish Longinus Over Moment -3
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-3
Devil (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Dynamite (F) Kerbeus Over Quattro -6
Xiphoid Xcalibur Fortress Destroy' -4 (Deck Only)
Vanish Fafnir Over Wave' -7
Vanish Longinus Giga Metal Drift -3 (Deck Only)
Prominence Belial II Tapered Mobius -10
Roar Fafnir Tapered Bearing' -2

4th) Optimus1227
(Jul. 24, 2022  12:20 AM)JCE_13 Wrote: JCE's Burst (Standard) - BST Tournament, Ranked
July 23, 2022
Vero Beach, FL


1st) JCE_13
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Vanish Bahamut Tapered Metal Survive -6
Vanish Bahamut Over High Xtend+' -6
Guilty Longinus Nexus+S Metal Drift -0
Guilty Longinus Over Zone' + HasZ -0
Xiphoid Xcalibur Xanthus Sword' -1 (Deck Only)

2nd) Nate725
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Dynamite (F) Kerbeus Over Quattro -6
Vanish Longinus Tapered Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over Never -2
Vanish Bahamut Giga Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)
Roar Fafnir Fortress Never -10
Guilty Longinus Giga Destroy' -2 (Deck Only)
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)

3rd) SupaDav03
Vanish Longinus Over Moment -3
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-3
Devil (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Dynamite (F) Kerbeus Over Quattro -6
Xiphoid Xcalibur Fortress Destroy' -4 (Deck Only)
Vanish Fafnir Over Wave' -7
Vanish Longinus Giga Metal Drift -3 (Deck Only)
Prominence Belial II Tapered Mobius -10
Roar Fafnir Tapered Bearing' -2

4th) Optimus1227
4 isn't out yet. What was that Xiphoid using?
(Jul. 24, 2022  12:58 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote:
(Jul. 24, 2022  12:20 AM)JCE_13 Wrote: JCE's Burst (Standard) - BST Tournament, Ranked
July 23, 2022
Vero Beach, FL


1st) JCE_13
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Vanish Bahamut Tapered Metal Survive -6
Vanish Bahamut Over High Xtend+' -6
Guilty Longinus Nexus+S Metal Drift -0
Guilty Longinus Over Zone' + HasZ -0
Xiphoid Xcalibur Xanthus Sword' -1 (Deck Only)

2nd) Nate725
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Dynamite (F) Kerbeus Over Quattro -6
Vanish Longinus Tapered Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)
Dynamite (F) Perseus Over Never -2
Vanish Bahamut Giga Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)
Roar Fafnir Fortress Never -10
Guilty Longinus Giga Destroy' -2 (Deck Only)
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Bearing' -3 (Deck Only)

3rd) SupaDav03
Vanish Longinus Over Moment -3
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-3
Devil (F) Perseus Over High Xtend+' -2
Dynamite (F) Kerbeus Over Quattro -6
Xiphoid Xcalibur Fortress Destroy' -4 (Deck Only)
Vanish Fafnir Over Wave' -7
Vanish Longinus Giga Metal Drift -3 (Deck Only)
Prominence Belial II Tapered Mobius -10
Roar Fafnir Tapered Bearing' -2

4th) Optimus1227
4 isn't out yet. What was that Xiphoid using?
1. Got new armors mixed up.
Shin LA Burst Classic 7-23-22
South Pasadena, California
USA

Nightmare Goku 1st
Dragoon F.Polish.Drift
Dranzer F.Yell.Bearing Dash
Dark Deathscyther.Knuckle.Orbit Metal

Shindog 2nd
Dranzer F.Yell.Absorb-S
Chaos.Heavy.High Xtend+ Dash
Anubion A2.Gravity.Assault-Q+Kick
Odin.Knuckle.High Defense
Neptune.Yell.Drift  (Deck Finals only)

Vulcan Eagle 3rd
Dragoon F.Gravity.Drift
Dranzer F.Spread.Revolve
Driger S.Heavy .High Xtend+ Dash
(Jul. 24, 2022  4:51 AM)Shindog Wrote: Shin LA Burst Classic 7-23-22
South Pasadena, California
USA

Nightmare Goku 1st
Dragoon F.Polish.Drift
Dranzer F.Yell.Bearing Dash
Dark Deathscyther.Knuckle.Orbit Metal

Shindog 2nd
Dranzer F.Yell.Absorb-S
Chaos.Heavy.High Xtend+ Dash
Anubion A2.Gravity.Assault-Q+Kick
Odin.Knuckle.High Defense
Neptune.Yell.Drift  (Deck Finals only)

Vulcan Eagle 3rd
Dragoon F.Gravity.Drift
Dranzer F.Spread.Revolve
Driger S.Heavy .High Xtend+ Dash

That’s a lot of Drift for Classic 👀
(Jul. 24, 2022  4:51 AM)Shindog Wrote: Shin LA Burst Classic 7-23-22
South Pasadena, California
USA

Nightmare Goku 1st
Dragoon F.Polish.Drift
Dranzer F.Yell.Bearing Dash
Dark Deathscyther.Knuckle.Orbit Metal

Shindog 2nd
Dranzer F.Yell.Absorb-S
Chaos.Heavy.High Xtend+ Dash
Anubion A2.Gravity.Assault-Q+Kick
Odin.Knuckle.High Defense
Neptune.Yell.Drift  (Deck Finals only)

Vulcan Eagle 3rd
Dragoon F.Gravity.Drift
Dranzer F.Spread.Revolve
Driger S.Heavy .High Xtend+ Dash
This really says a lot about our socieiety
(Jul. 24, 2022  3:36 PM)bladekid Wrote:
(Jul. 24, 2022  4:51 AM)Shindog Wrote: Shin LA Burst Classic 7-23-22
South Pasadena, California
USA

Nightmare Goku 1st
Dragoon F.Polish.Drift
Dranzer F.Yell.Bearing Dash
Dark Deathscyther.Knuckle.Orbit Metal

Shindog 2nd
Dranzer F.Yell.Absorb-S
Chaos.Heavy.High Xtend+ Dash
Anubion A2.Gravity.Assault-Q+Kick
Odin.Knuckle.High Defense
Neptune.Yell.Drift  (Deck Finals only)

Vulcan Eagle 3rd
Dragoon F.Gravity.Drift
Dranzer F.Spread.Revolve
Driger S.Heavy .High Xtend+ Dash
This really says a lot about our socieiety
Since we had so many tall sharps like Has Kick,  society responds.  This made sense even in 3on3 first stage yesterday.  Ultimately, winner used nothing too new or too “Broken.”
(Jun. 26, 2022  5:30 AM)bladekid Wrote: Winning combos for Matt Thunderbird's Blading Empire | Episode 1: Children of Chaos


1st: bladekid
A2.H.a+Kc-QD (both)
O2.H.D (First stage only)
G2.G.U (finals)

2nd: jonathan53332
Baldur.Quarter.Wave' (both)
Dark Deathscyther.Spread.Revolve (final)
Dranzer Flame.Heavy.Just (first)

3rd: Mr. Memes
B4.K.X (first and final stage)
A2.H.a+Kc (first stage and final stage)
A2.G.a+Kc (final stage)
Crystal DzF.G.Yr-S (first stage)
Crystal DzF.H.Yr-S (first stage)

4th: Friedpasta
A2.G.a+Kc (both)
D2.H.O (first)

Honorable mentions to the 5th place JA Industries.:
V2.H.X'
V2.G.X'

What does this tell us about our society?  Even a better study of society really, as it list down to 5 of 8, a closer and more detailed look.
(Jul. 24, 2022  4:27 PM)Shindog Wrote:
(Jul. 24, 2022  3:36 PM)bladekid Wrote: This really says a lot about our socieiety
Since we had so many tall sharps like Has Kick,  society responds.  This made sense even in 3on3 first stage yesterday.  Ultimately, winner used nothing too new or too “Broken.”
That's not the point I was trying to make.
(Jul. 24, 2022  5:12 PM)bladekid Wrote:
(Jul. 24, 2022  4:27 PM)Shindog Wrote: Since we had so many tall sharps like Has Kick,  society responds.  This made sense even in 3on3 first stage yesterday.  Ultimately, winner used nothing too new or too “Broken.”
That's not the point I was trying to make.

Don’t worry, I make my own points. Just need a reminder and talking point sometimes.