Payphones? We don't have those anymore
there's two at a gas station near me, but they're both broken.

(Dec. 06, 2014 7:21 PM)Wizard Wrote: I feel weird. My grandmother died last night and although I should be upset, the only thought really on my mind is ã—ょã†ãŒãªã„。Don't get me wrong, I am upset about it, but I have yet to actually break down. Maybe it's just that it hasn't really hit me yet (I haven't seen the body), or perhaps it's because I'm an adult now, and I understand that it happens to everyone eventually (Hence why I've been thinking ã—ょã†ãŒãªã„). We've kind of been expecting it for a while now though. She was put in the hospital a few years back for heart problems and we were told she would probably only last a few more years.
I feel pretty bad for my grandfather, he's a wreck. He was just admitted to the hospital this morning, it seems like we may have a double funeral.
(Dec. 06, 2014 10:01 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote: Also, my best wishes for your grandfather. I really hope you won't lose both of your grandparents... One is already enough pain. And I wish you steady nerves for your grandmother's funeral. 元気出ã—ã¦!
(Dec. 06, 2014 11:07 PM)Wizard Wrote:(Dec. 06, 2014 10:01 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote: Also, my best wishes for your grandfather. I really hope you won't lose both of your grandparents... One is already enough pain. And I wish you steady nerves for your grandmother's funeral. 元気出ã—ã¦!
ã‚ã‚ŠãŒã¨ã†ã”ã–ã„ã¾ã™ã€‚My grandfather was released from the hospital this afternoon. He seems fine, he's just a little messed up, but it's easy to see why.
(Dec. 06, 2014 11:33 PM)OwnageDerp Wrote: å分ãªï¼ã“れらã¯ã€ç¿»è¨³ã™ã‚‹ã®ã¯é›£ã—ã„ã§ã™ï¼
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Sorry for the loss, Wizard. The deep feelings may take a while to sink in. About last year I started feeling sad my last grandparent on my dads side died, and I barely started feeling the sadness. About the Japanese letters, they might have another meaning to it. Apparently the word Can't is its own letter.
(Dec. 06, 2014 11:33 PM)OwnageDerp Wrote: About the Japanese letters, they might have another meaning to it. Apparently the word Can't is its own letter.They don't have letters in Japanese, but rather they have characters. They have three alphabets: hiragana, katakana and kanji. Hiragana are the written forms of the sounds used to make Japanese words, and are comparable to the roman alphabet that we use in the English language. Katakana is similar but is used for foreign words and sometimes names. Kanji come from the Chinese alphabet and each character is its own word.
(Dec. 07, 2014 2:30 AM)Wizard Wrote:(Dec. 06, 2014 11:33 PM)OwnageDerp Wrote: å分ãªï¼ã“れらã¯ã€ç¿»è¨³ã™ã‚‹ã®ã¯é›£ã—ã„ã§ã™ï¼
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What that says and what you think it says are two completely different things. XD If you actually have any interest in learning Japanese I could give you some links to the resources I use.
(Dec. 06, 2014 11:33 PM)OwnageDerp Wrote: å分ãªï¼ã“れらã¯ã€ç¿»è¨³ã™ã‚‹ã®ã¯é›£ã—ã„ã§ã™ï¼
Sorry for the loss, Wizard. The deep feelings may take a while to sink in. About last year I started feeling sad my last grandparent on my dads side died, and I barely started feeling the sadness. About the Japanese letters, they might have another meaning to it. Apparently the word Can't is its own letter.
It happens, it's all a part of life.
(Dec. 06, 2014 11:33 PM)OwnageDerp Wrote: About the Japanese letters, they might have another meaning to it. Apparently the word Can't is its own letter.They don't have letters in Japanese, but rather they have characters. They have three alphabets: hiragana, katakana and kanji. Hiragana are the written forms of the sounds used to make Japanese words, and are comparable to the roman alphabet that we use in the English language. Katakana is similar but is used for foreign words and sometimes names. Kanji come from the Chinese alphabet and each character is its own word.
The term ã—よã†ãŒãªã„ (Short for ã—ã‹ãŸãŒãªã„ (Shikata ga nai) simple means "It can't be helped" or is sometimes translated as "No way" or "Oh well," and it is at the root of Japanese culture. Whenever something happens in Japan they usually say ã—よã†ãŒãªã„ (Pronounced as "Shouganai") and move on because they know better days will come. Remember the 3/11 earthquakes? I remember seeing on the news that rather than complain about the event, they all just seemed to gather their things and their families and move on. It's because they're alll used to that ã—よã†ãŒãªã„ culture.
(Dec. 07, 2014 3:32 AM)FlyingWaffle Wrote: Would you recommend roseta stone? I've been using that, and I feel like I've been making progress, but then again I could be learning incorrectly. I learn languages pretty easily (My only talent besides Beyblade xD).
(Dec. 07, 2014 4:53 AM)Echizen Wrote: I thought that was interesting. I once used a Chinese-English dictionary to learn. Shénme? hehe I think that's right.
(Dec. 07, 2014 3:47 AM)Wizard Wrote:(Dec. 07, 2014 3:32 AM)FlyingWaffle Wrote: Would you recommend roseta stone? I've been using that, and I feel like I've been making progress, but then again I could be learning incorrectly. I learn languages pretty easily (My only talent besides Beyblade xD).
I haven't used Roseta Stone, so I can't say anything for myself, but I have heard some pretty poor things about it. I actually recommend some textbooks (Genki is nice), and a pen, lol. Just make sure you're getting listening practice as well.
(Dec. 07, 2014 3:47 AM)Wizard Wrote:(Dec. 07, 2014 3:32 AM)FlyingWaffle Wrote: Would you recommend roseta stone? I've been using that, and I feel like I've been making progress, but then again I could be learning incorrectly. I learn languages pretty easily (My only talent besides Beyblade xD).
I haven't used Roseta Stone, so I can't say anything for myself, but I have heard some pretty poor things about it. I actually recommend some textbooks (Genki is nice), and a pen, lol. Just make sure you're getting listening practice as well.
(Dec. 07, 2014 10:17 AM)FlyingWaffle Wrote:(Dec. 07, 2014 3:47 AM)Wizard Wrote:(Dec. 07, 2014 3:32 AM)FlyingWaffle Wrote: Would you recommend roseta stone? I've been using that, and I feel like I've been making progress, but then again I could be learning incorrectly. I learn languages pretty easily (My only talent besides Beyblade xD).
I haven't used Roseta Stone, so I can't say anything for myself, but I have heard some pretty poor things about it. I actually recommend some textbooks (Genki is nice), and a pen, lol. Just make sure you're getting listening practice as well.
How would you recommend one gets listening and pronunciation practise?
(Dec. 07, 2014 12:07 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote:(Dec. 07, 2014 10:17 AM)FlyingWaffle Wrote:(Dec. 07, 2014 3:47 AM)Wizard Wrote: I haven't used Roseta Stone, so I can't say anything for myself, but I have heard some pretty poor things about it. I actually recommend some textbooks (Genki is nice), and a pen, lol. Just make sure you're getting listening practice as well.
How would you recommend one gets listening and pronunciation practise?
Minna no nihongo comes with a CD...
(Dec. 07, 2014 12:51 PM)FlyingWaffle Wrote:(Dec. 07, 2014 12:07 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote:(Dec. 07, 2014 10:17 AM)FlyingWaffle Wrote: How would you recommend one gets listening and pronunciation practise?
Minna no nihongo comes with a CD...
Could you give me an order in which to read the books? There seems to be dozens of them, and I can't tell which is first, second, etc.
(Dec. 07, 2014 3:55 PM)FlyingWaffle Wrote:(Dec. 07, 2014 2:19 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote:(Dec. 07, 2014 12:51 PM)FlyingWaffle Wrote: Could you give me an order in which to read the books? There seems to be dozens of them, and I can't tell which is first, second, etc.
Sure. Just start with vol. 1 text book and grammar book:
text book:
http://www.amazon.de/Minna-no-Nihongo-Sh...+nihongo+1
grammar book:
www.amazon.de/Minna-Nihongo-Translation-Grammatical-Notes/dp/4883191079/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1417957624&sr=8-5&keywords=minna+no+nihongo+1
You go through the single lessons reading the text book and the grammar book simultaneously. In each lessen there´s also listening and pronounciation practice, which is on this CD:
http://www.amazon.de/Minna-No-Nihongo-Cd...hongo+1+cd
I´d recommend reading the grammar of the lesson in the grammar book first, then try to translate the text in the book, which is at the beginning of each chapter, and than do the grammar, listening, ..., exercises in the text book.
When you have finished vol. 1 (which I´m about to now it took two years), you can proceed with vol. 2 the same way.
text book:
http://www.amazon.de/Minna-no-Nihongo-Sh...+nihongo+2
grammar book:
http://www.amazon.de/Minna-No-Nihongo-Tr...ranslation
CD:
http://www.amazon.de/Minna-No-Nihongo-Cd...hongo+2+cd
You've been a huge help! I bought both this and Genki. When they get here, I shall study hard core (as much as school and practise allows >_>) and relay which one I think is better (might take a few months <_<).
(Dec. 07, 2014 3:55 PM)FlyingWaffle Wrote: You've been a huge help! I bought both this and Genki. When they get here, I shall study hard core (as much as school and practise allows >_>) and relay which one I think is better (might take a few months <_<).
(Dec. 07, 2014 5:59 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote: You're very welcome.I'll check out the book as well. I started Genki but I'm not doing very well with my kana. I have a lot memorized, but it's really easy to forget stuff so I'm going back and working on memorization. I also have yet to begin katakana. I'll let you know what I think. Perhaps in a few months we could make a Japanese language thread to help practice?I hope you will be successful with those books. Maybe we can chat in Japanese in a few months?
(Dec. 07, 2014 10:17 AM)FlyingWaffle Wrote: How would you recommend one gets listening and pronunciation practise?