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"Build me a Deck!" #2

Jul. 06, 2017  9:52 AM
 
(Jul. 06, 2017  9:33 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote:
(Jul. 06, 2017  8:31 AM)Shaady Wrote: How would these decks look (I basically have everything top tier bar Xcalibur and Gigant Gia)
Takara Tomy: 
dF.P.At
bR.H.O
L2.2G.H
Hasbro: 
Y.S.R
U.H.D
R.K.Z

Wow pretty good deck. Though if you have Drain Ato then there isn't really much need of Br. Thing you need is a OS-em-all safeish stamina type like Odin or A2 and a reliable attack type (Tbh L2 is bit risky on Hold in current metagame and won't benifical in presence of Drain Ato) or a Balance type (like VHA/X. Tbh I'm not sure about Attacker state in Fafnir Meta)

Umm, I think don't think there is need of 2 stamina once. Maybe YSZ, XHX and UKR

Fair call on those suggestions, I was under the Impression dF was used as a Stamina type not a defensive type which was why I opted for bR over A2. 

Perhaps this would do better (I missed a couple of important pieces im still lacking in Valkyrie and Xcalius)
Takara Tomy: 
dF.P.At
A2.S.R
L2.H.X
Hasbro: 
Y.S.Z
U.K.R
R.H.X
Jul. 06, 2017  10:36 AM
 
(Jul. 06, 2017  9:52 AM)Shaady Wrote:
(Jul. 06, 2017  9:33 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: Wow pretty good deck. Though if you have Drain Ato then there isn't really much need of Br. Thing you need is a OS-em-all safeish stamina type like Odin or A2 and a reliable attack type (Tbh L2 is bit risky on Hold in current metagame and won't benifical in presence of Drain Ato) or a Balance type (like VHA/X. Tbh I'm not sure about Attacker state in Fafnir Meta)

Umm, I think don't think there is need of 2 stamina once. Maybe YSZ, XHX and UKR

Fair call on those suggestions, I was under the Impression dF was used as a Stamina type not a defensive type which was why I opted for bR over A2. 

Perhaps this would do better (I missed a couple of important pieces im still lacking in Valkyrie and Xcalius)
Takara Tomy: 
dF.P.At
A2.S.R
L2.H.X
Hasbro: 
Y.S.Z
U.K.R
R.H.X

Yes its stamina type by TT and it does what a stamina type's focus is (Out-Spinning) but its too tank/good at defencd to be just a stamina type. Infact it beats many attacker pretty well (Even L2) and I'm sure a perfect weak bank can make it nightmare for attackers. So its safe to say its defence zombie combo.

Now its perfect Smile
Aug. 10, 2017  1:12 PM
 
Sorry for 2nd post but can I get some help to perfect my deck? Thanks

STD:-
MSF-H Balro Balro DF105MF (primary attacker)
Girago Dragoon BD145RDF (defence and destablizer killer)
MF-H Scythe Cancer BD (Basicly to counter everything that beats Girago Dragoon. Stamina Type)

4D Only/Alternative STD:-
MF Flash Cetus H145RF
Scythe Cancer BD
MF-H Diablo Kerbecs BD145RF/MF/RDF

LTD:- especially need advice on what would be better deck
Flame Hades 230CS
MF Gravity Perseus DF105MF/GCF/WD
MF Scythe Cancer BD

Plastics
Driger V2 Upgraded
Driger G + Seaborg Base Attacker
Defence Zombie (using Galzzy)

HMS:-
Dark Effgy MS
Gaia MS + Circle Wide + Jiraya Ms core
Driger MS + Circle Heavy and Grip core ultimate mode
Aug. 11, 2017  10:23 AM
 
(Aug. 10, 2017  1:12 PM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: Sorry for 2nd post but can I get some help to perfect my deck? Thanks

STD:-
MSF-H Balro Balro DF105MF (primary attacker) replace df105mf with ch120rf
Girago Dragoon BD145RDF (defence and destablizer killer) replace girado and bd145 with killerken and sa165
MF-H Scythe Cancer BD (Basicly to counter everything that beats Girago Dragoon.  Stamina Type) replace scythe with duo

4D Only/Alternative STD:-
MF Flash Cetus H145RF good
Scythe Cancer BD replace scythe with phantom 
MF-H Diablo Kerbecs BD145RF/MF/RDF use mf-h duo e230rdf instead

LTD:-  especially need advice on what would be better deck
Flame Hades 230CS good 
MF Gravity Perseus DF105MF/GCF/WD use MF-H Gravity Perseus (S130/CH120/R145/TR145) (RF/R2F/LRF/RSF/RB) instead
MF Scythe Cancer BD 

Plastics
Driger V2 Upgraded use a zombie instead
Driger G + Seaborg Base Attacker good
Defence Zombie (using Galzzy)good

HMS:-
Dark Effgy MS use wolborg ms instead 
Gaia MS + Circle Wide + Jiraya Ms core replace with samurai changer at and use cwd defense ring fir weight disk
Driger MS + Circle Heavy and Grip core ultimate mode replace with dems at
Apr. 21, 2019  2:03 PM
 
I know nobody has posted in this thread for a while, but can anyone make me a deck? I have all releases up to revive phoenix. Thanks Smile
Apr. 21, 2019  2:06 PM
 
(Apr. 21, 2019  2:03 PM)Godly_Requiem Wrote: I know nobody has posted in this thread for a while, but can anyone make me a deck? I have all releases up to revive phoenix. Thanks Smile
lS.7/0/10C/B.Br/Ds (Opposite Spin Of opponent)
LC aH.10.Et
LC hS.0/10B/C.At
Apr. 21, 2019  3:48 PM
 
CB, you know there's a limit of one level chip per deck!
Apr. 21, 2019  3:51 PM
 
(Apr. 21, 2019  3:48 PM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: CB, you know there's a limit of one level chip per deck!

Right! I forgot! Remove the LC on aH!
Apr. 21, 2019  5:13 PM
 
(Apr. 21, 2019  2:06 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:
(Apr. 21, 2019  2:03 PM)Godly_Requiem Wrote: I know nobody has posted in this thread for a while, but can anyone make me a deck? I have all releases up to revive phoenix. Thanks :)
lS.7/0/10C/B.Br/Ds (Opposite Spin Of opponent)
LC aH.10.Et
LC hS.0/10B/C.At

You lS combo is outclassed. cR 0C Xt+/Ds’ would be better
Apr. 21, 2019  6:26 PM
 
(Apr. 21, 2019  5:13 PM)UltimateMaster Wrote:
(Apr. 21, 2019  2:06 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote: lS.7/0/10C/B.Br/Ds (Opposite Spin Of opponent)
LC aH.10.Et
LC hS.0/10B/C.At

You lS combo is outclassed. cR 0C Xt+/Ds’ would be better

My lS combo isn’t outclassed in Standard! He/She doesn’t have Ds’ or Xt+!
Apr. 21, 2019  6:28 PM
 
(Apr. 21, 2019  6:26 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:
(Apr. 21, 2019  5:13 PM)UltimateMaster Wrote: You lS combo is outclassed. cR 0C Xt+/Ds’ would be better

My lS combo isn’t outclassed in Standard! He/She doesn’t have Ds’ or Xt+!

Ok, then it will be good
Jun. 01, 2019  9:03 AM
 
Burst STD:

Layers: TT: W Valkyrie, H Salamander, Spriggan R. Hasbro: Caynox, Orichalcum.
Disks: Outer, 0, 4, 5, 7.
Layers: Meteor, Cross, Glaive, Bump, Expand.
Drivers: Xtreme, Atomic, Revolve. Hasbro: Bearing, Destroy, Octa.

Worried about/combos I might face: Stock Orichalcum O3 Outer Octa, Stock Balkesh 2B Atomic, the Stock Cho-Z (Spriggan/Valkyrie/Achilles) Beys, Garuda G3. From most to least worrying.
Jun. 01, 2019  9:43 AM
 
(Jun. 01, 2019  9:03 AM)Barreto Wrote: Burst STD:

Layers: TT: W Valkyrie, H Salamander, Spriggan R. Hasbro: Caynox, Orichalcum.
Disks: Outer, 0, 4, 5, 7.
Layers: Meteor, Cross, Glaive, Bump, Expand.
Drivers: Xtreme, Atomic, Revolve. Hasbro: Bearing, Destroy, Octa.

Worried about/combos I might face: Stock Orichalcum O3 Outer Octa, Stock Balkesh 2B Atomic, the Stock Cho-Z (Spriggan/Valkyrie/Achilles) Beys, Garuda G3. From most to least worrying.

Spriggan requiem.7B.At as far as I know can counter stock B3 and every stock cho z prefiz beys (achilles might be slight trouble, but nothing to worry too much about) and even G3. Switch it to right spin against O3 and I think you can win the match. So, be left spin against everything except O3 (you probably can win in left spin against it, but I'm not entirely sure if atomic can beta octa in opposite spin). Other good combos than you can use includes: C3.0C.destroy, C3.outer.revolve, hS.0b.at (this can probably perform as well the Sr combo if not better), hS.0E/7E.destroy
Jun. 01, 2019  3:09 PM
 
(Jun. 01, 2019  9:03 AM)Barreto Wrote: Burst STD:

Layers: TT: W Valkyrie, H Salamander,  Spriggan R. Hasbro: Caynox, Orichalcum.
Disks: Outer, 0, 4, 5, 7.
Layers: Meteor, Cross, Glaive, Bump, Expand.
Drivers: Xtreme, Atomic, Revolve. Hasbro: Bearing, Destroy, Octa.

Worried about/combos I might face: Stock Orichalcum O3 Outer Octa, Stock Balkesh 2B Atomic, the Stock Cho-Z (Spriggan/Valkyrie/Achilles) Beys, Garuda G3. From most to least worrying.

Don’t worry about Stock Cho-Z Awakening Beys. They’re not that good compared to some of their custom combos.
hS.7E.At can counter left czS on Bearing
Sr.0G.R (left) can probably beat czV on X’ or Qc’
C3.5C.Br is a solid combo to go up against G3, B3, Ω3, and maybe even left czS on Bearing. 
This team probably has to watch out for czA.00P.Ds because hS can be KOed by it a lot and the other two might Burst or get their stamina drained by repetitive attacks.
Jun. 01, 2019  8:48 PM
 
My current idea for a deck (Burst Standard) is:
- hS.St.At
- pP.00C.Xt+
- CZ-S.0W.Br (tentative)

I'm not sure how attack types like dH/JV.10E/T.Qc' will fare in deck format, as I'm not a regular attendee. Mainly just looking for help with deck choices and what layer/disc/driver combos I should go with in order to emulate a possible tournament matchup.
Jun. 01, 2019  8:56 PM
 
(Jun. 01, 2019  8:48 PM)Dragunix Wrote: My current idea for a deck (Burst Standard) is:
- hS.St.At
- pP.00C.Xt+
- CZ-S.0W.Br (tentative)

I'm not sure how attack types like dH/JV.10E/T.Qc' will fare in deck format, as I'm not a regular attendee. Mainly just looking for help with deck choices and what layer/disc/driver combos I should go with in order to emulate a possible tournament matchup.

If you want a reliable Attack combo, try out czA.10P.Ds/Ds'. It has good enough LAD to tie with or even beat your hS combo, plus it presents a Burst threat against right-spin Stamina and Defense combos including your pP combo.
Jun. 01, 2019  9:05 PM
 
My current standard deck:
-aH 0 Et
-gK4 7s ds
-B3 10G Br
I don't know if the deck is the best, but I don't have xt+ or a TT Br. I was also thinking of swapping the aH layer out with hS or Sr. Any recommendations?
Jun. 02, 2019  2:18 AM
 
(Jun. 01, 2019  9:05 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: My current standard deck:
-aH 0 Et
-gK4 7s ds
-B3 10G Br
I don't know if the deck is the best, but I don't have xt+ or a TT Br. I was also thinking of swapping the aH layer out with hS or Sr. Any recommendations?

if you choose to swap out the aH, replace the Et for an At. At is better in opposite spin, and Et is used mainly in aH combos.

if you want to swap out the gK for hS, make sure they're the same brand to avoid illegal combos.
Jun. 02, 2019  7:06 PM
 
(Jun. 02, 2019  2:18 AM)leosama Wrote:
(Jun. 01, 2019  9:05 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: My current standard deck:
-aH 0 Et
-gK4 7s ds
-B3 10G Br
I don't know if the deck is the best, but I don't have xt+ or a TT Br. I was also thinking of swapping the aH layer out with hS or Sr. Any recommendations?

if you choose to swap out the aH, replace the Et for an At. At is better in opposite spin, and Et is used mainly in aH combos.

if you want to swap out the gK for hS, make sure they're the same brand to avoid illegal combos.

I would, I just don't have a TT at or a TT ds.
Jun. 03, 2019  2:12 AM
 
I have most if not all regular release Takara Tomy Beys. I've been using the following combos so far:

czV.Bl.Ul
czA.10C.Ds
czS.00W.Br

My reserve combos are:

(LC)dH.Hr.Ds'
gF.0H.Ds
(LC)hS.0P.Xt+
(LC)pP.0P.At
(LC)pP.Outer.Et
Sr.Rt.Br

From the tournament that I've participated on before, I noticed that most if not all of the top four players always have Sr/czS and hS on deck with pP. I wanted to go with having a Chouzetsu Trinity deck just for the heck of it, but I want to know your opinion on my lineup and reserves.
Jun. 03, 2019  10:56 AM
 
(Jun. 03, 2019  2:12 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: I have most if not all regular release Takara Tomy Beys. I've been using the following combos so far:

czV.Bl.Ul
czA.10C.Ds
czS.00W.Br

My reserve combos are:

(LC)dH.Hr.Ds'
gF.0H.Ds
(LC)hS.0P.Xt+
(LC)pP.0P.At
(LC)pP.Outer.Et
Sr.Rt.Br

From the tournament that I've participated on before, I noticed that most if not all of the top four players always have Sr/czS and hS on deck with pP. I wanted to go with having a Chouzetsu Trinity deck just for the heck of it, but I want to know your opinion on my lineup and reserves.

Why not have ratchet on CZ S if you are wanting to use it?
Why use hit frame on gF? I'm not too sure but I think hurricane is better than 0P for hS xt+. Cross is better for xt+ (stamina).
Jun. 03, 2019  10:32 PM
 
(Jun. 03, 2019  10:56 AM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote:
(Jun. 03, 2019  2:12 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: I have most if not all regular release Takara Tomy Beys. I've been using the following combos so far:

czV.Bl.Ul
czA.10C.Ds
czS.00W.Br

My reserve combos are:

(LC)dH.Hr.Ds'
gF.0H.Ds
(LC)hS.0P.Xt+
(LC)pP.0P.At
(LC)pP.Outer.Et
Sr.Rt.Br

From the tournament that I've participated on before, I noticed that most if not all of the top four players always have Sr/czS and hS on deck with pP. I wanted to go with having a Chouzetsu Trinity deck just for the heck of it, but I want to know your opinion on my lineup and reserves.

Why not have ratchet on CZ S if you are wanting to use it?
Why use hit frame on gF? I'm not too sure but I think hurricane is better than 0P for hS xt+. Cross is better for xt+ (stamina).

Rt is interchangeable with 00W, I know. I'm inclined to use St.At on czS if I swap out czV with Sr.


Interesting input on Hurricane for hS. Might try that out in my tests.

Hit on gF was my discovery, since it can actually fight consistently OS against most opposite spin and manage to Burst some same spin combos. I observed it had more LAD for gF than say Star/Cross/Glaive/Proof on Ds. That's just what worked out for mine, and I respect if you think or say it's a bad combo.
Jun. 04, 2019  10:39 AM
 
(Jun. 03, 2019  10:32 PM)Rouzuke Wrote: Rt is interchangeable with 00W, I know. I'm inclined to use St.At on czS if I swap out czV with Sr.
Interesting input on Hurricane for hS. Might try that out in my tests.
Hit on gF was my discovery, since it can actually fight consistently OS against most opposite spin and manage to Burst some same spin combos. I observed it had more LAD for gF than say Star/Cross/Glaive/Proof on Ds. That's just what worked out for mine, and I respect if you think or say it's a bad combo.
Czs.st.at is good combo from what I have seen and heard.
I remember seeing some video in which hurricane was used for left spin and did a better job than 0C at least in terms of LAD.
I'm not even entirely surprised with hit being used on gF, because 1' was a decent disk for gF (just saying that when an unbalanced disk can make gF make it work, why not an unbalanced frame?) and I did not think of it as a bad combo.
Here is the hurricane vs. 0C video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2koICGmadG4
Jun. 04, 2019  11:35 AM
 
(Jun. 04, 2019  10:39 AM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote:
(Jun. 03, 2019  10:32 PM)Rouzuke Wrote: Rt is interchangeable with 00W, I know. I'm inclined to use St.At on czS if I swap out czV with Sr.
Interesting input on Hurricane for hS. Might try that out in my tests.
Hit on gF was my discovery, since it can actually fight consistently OS against most opposite spin and manage to Burst some same spin combos. I observed it had more LAD for gF than say Star/Cross/Glaive/Proof on Ds. That's just what worked out for mine, and I respect if you think or say it's a bad combo.
Czs.st.at is good combo from what I have seen and heard.
I remember seeing some video in which hurricane was used for left spin and did a better job than 0C at least in terms of LAD.
I'm not even entirely surprised with hit being used on gF, because 1' was a decent disk for gF (just saying that when an unbalanced disk can make gF make it work, why not an unbalanced frame?) and I did not think of it as a bad combo.
Here is the hurricane vs. 0C video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2koICGmadG4

My setup on gF is that the contact point of Hit should be on the 1st wing to the right of the Level Chip hole, and that it shouldn't have a Level Chip in it to work. I don't really know why, but it just works for me lol
Jun. 04, 2019  2:03 PM
 
(Jun. 04, 2019  11:35 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: My setup on gF is that the contact point of Hit should be on the 1st wing to the right of the Level Chip hole, and that it shouldn't have a Level Chip in it to work. I don't really know why, but it just works for me lol
Isn't that the same position in which 1' has to point if it is used in a gF combo?
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