So I've participated recently in a local tournament and mentally noted commonly used competitive combos and decided to see if gF can actually do some damage and get a place in the meta. I wanted to see how well it would perform with its stock Driver while changing up the Disks and/or Frames in an effort to see LAD effects with each pairing. Here's my setup:
- Black Standard Beyblade Burst Stadium
- 2 Red LR Beylaunchers (practice launchers since October 2018, so the white parts on the prongs may already have worn a bit); each dedicated for left and right spin respectively; Left spin only has the standard launcher grip with metal grip on the front and rubber grip on the back; Right spin has Beylogger+, power trigger, same grips as Left spin, 2 weight dampers
- all tests are done 20 each and will indicate if draws had to be redone or why less than 20 rounds
- all Chouzetsu Beys compatible with Level Chips are equipped with those
- I gave away my 8' to my gf since I felt it wasn't going to be as great as 8... I might get testing done when I borrow it soon
- Disks and Frames to be used: Jerk, Polish, Yell, 3, 5, 7, 8, 0, Flow, Glaive, Bump, Cross, Star, Meteor, Lift
Anyways, let's get started.
1st Testing: Geist Fafnir.Jerk.Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 0 (Spin Finish); both clicked 2
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch since gF just Self Over Finish every dang time which is Absorb's fault probably): gF 1 hS 1 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 2 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 3 (SF)
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 5 (Burst Finish)
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 2 hS 5 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 2 hS 6 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 2 hS 7 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 3 hS 7 (SF)
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 3 hS 8 (SF)
Results:
gF 27% win rate
hS 73% win rate
Input: I didn't pursue further in this matchup since it is apparent that hS wins just by weight of Layer alone. Absorb's erratic movements at hard launches do incur risk of Self Over Finishes unless you're lucky that it hits the wall for a Bound Attack instead.
2nd Testing: Geist Fafnir.Polish.Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 0 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 1 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 2 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 3 (Over Finish)
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 4 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 5 (SF)
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 6 (self OF by gF)
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 7 (SF), both clicked 1
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 8 (self OF by gF); both clicked 1
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 9 (SF); gF clicked 1, hS clicked 2
Results:
gF 10%
hS 90%
Input: I also didn't persevere for 20 rounds since it was too painful to watch. The OF was probably the timing of hS bumping onto gF in front of a pocket as soon as it launched.
3rd Testing: Geist Fafnir.Yell.Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 0 hS 1 (self OF by gF); gF clicked 1
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 1 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 2 hS 1 (SF)
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 3 hS 1 (SF); both clicked 1, gF won by a half rotation
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 3 hS 2 (self OF by gF)
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 2 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 4 hS 4 (BF); hS clicked 3
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 5 hS 4 (SF)
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 6 hS 4 (OF); gF clicked 3
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 7 hS 4 (SF)
Round 11 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 8 hS 4 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 12 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 8 hS 5 (SF); both click 1
Round 13 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 8 hS 6 (SF); hS clicked 1, gF was moving erratically and lost too much spin by the time it centered on the stadium
Round 14 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 9 hS 6 (SF); gF clicked 1, hS clicked 2
Round 15 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 9 hS 7 (SF); gF clicked 2
Round 16 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 9 hS 7 (DRAW)
Round 16 redo: gF 9 hS 8 (SF); both clicked 2
Round 17 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 9 hS 9 (SF); hS clicked 1, gF clicked 2
Round 18 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 10 hS 9 (SF); gF clicked 1, hS clicked 2
Round 19 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 10 hS 10 (SF)
Round 20 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 11 hS 10 (SF); both clicked 1
Results:
gF: 52%
hS: 48%
Input: I did the 20 rounds this time since it seems that Yell Disk, being a LAD beast back during the Single Layer era, seems to show some potential. It looked like it was winning LAD against 7Proof combo but the weight difference may have tilted the advantages to hS. Absorb really is quite random, and you have to really find the best sliding shoot power to maximize both the spin time and hitting power (for same spin at least), as this gF combo relied heavily on OWD and LAD since it worked quite well on destabilizing hS every time it won by SF. (Edit: I effed up the rounds and ended it only with 19. Fixed it until 20)
4th Testing: Geist Fafnir.8.Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 0 (SF), gF won by half rotation; both clicked 1
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 1 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 2 hS 1 (OF); gF clicked 1
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 3 hS 1 (SF)
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 4 hS 1 (SF)
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 2 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 5 hS 2 (SF); both clicked 2
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 5 hS 3 (SF)
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 6 hS 3 (SF)
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 7 hS 3 (SF)
Round 11 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 8 hS 3 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 12 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 9 hS 3 (SF)
Round 13 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 9 hS 4 (self OF by gF)
Round 14 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 10 hS 4 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 15 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 10 hS 5 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 16 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 11 hS 5 (SF)
Round 17 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 11 hS 6 (SF), hS won by a half rotation
Round 18 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 12 hS 6 (SF)
Round 19 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 12 hS 7 (SF)
Round 20 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 12 hS 8 (SF)
Results:
gF: 60%
hS: 40%
Input: It looks like 8 Disk also is promising, with it destabilizing hS quite well. As usual, the Absorb Driver becomes a pain when hard launched at the wrong angle. I'm inclined to assume that 8' will possibly give out the same results.
5th Testing: Geist Fafnir.8Glaive.Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 0 (SF)
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 1 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 2 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 2 hS 2 (SF)
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 3 hS 2 (SF); hS clicked 2
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 2 (SF)
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 4 hS 3 (SF); both clicked 2
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 5 hS 3 (SF)
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 6 hS 3 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 6 hS 4 (SF)
Round 11 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 6 hS 5 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 12 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 6 hS 6 (SF), hS won by a half rotation
Round 13 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 8 hS 6 (BF), gF won thru hard hits by bounding from the walls; gF clicked 2
Round 14 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 9 hS 6 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 15 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 9 hS 7 (SF), gF lost too much spin moving around and not hitting anything
Round 16 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 10 hS 7 (SF)
Round 17 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 10 hS 8 (SF), gF lost too much spin moving around and not hitting anything
Round 18 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 11 hS 8 (SF)
Round 19 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 12 hS 8 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 20 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 13 hS 8 (SF); gF clicked 1
Results:
gF: 62%
hS: 38%
Input: This actually surprised me, especially the Burst which was probably a fluke, but still. It still was working as a good destabilizer against hS, probably because Xt+ is not free-spinning. When gF makes hS tilt enough, the Frame hits hS hard to push it back and lose more stamina. And it had good LAD even though it was just a Glaive.
6th Testing: Geist Fafnir.8Cross.Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 0 hS 1 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 0 hS 2 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 0 hS 3 (self OF by gF); gF clicked 3
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 3 (SF)
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 2 hS 3 (SF); gF clicked 2, hS clicked 3
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 3 hS 3 (SF)
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 3 hS 5 (BF)
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 5 (SF)
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 4 hS 6 (OF); gF clicked 2
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 7 (SF); hS clicked 2, gF clicked 1
Round 11 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 5 hS 7 (SF)
Round 12 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 5 hS 7 (DRAW)
Round 12 redo: gF 5 hS 7 (DRAW)
Round 12 redo2: gF 6 hS 7 (SF)
Round 13 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 7 hS 7 (SF); gF clicked 2, hS clicked 1
Round 14 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 7 hS 8 (SF)
Round 15 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 8 hS 8 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 16 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 9 hS 8 (SF), gF won by a half rotation
Round 17 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 9 hS 9 (OF); gF clicked 2, hS clicked 1
Round 18 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 10 hS 9 (SF); gF clicked 2
Round 19 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 11 hS 9 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 20 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 12 hS 9 (SF)
Results:
gF: 57%
hS: 43%
Input: It may seem that the design of Cross upsets the balance provided by Glaive from previous testing, and that having 2 more contact points look more disadvantageous for destabilizing (since more contact points disperse the strength of hits). Overall, it may make heavier Layers be more balanced, but it doesn't seem to work on gF due to having odd-numbered contact points.
7th Testing: Geist Fafnir.8Meteor.Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 0 (OF); gF clicked 2, hS clicked 1
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 2 hS 0 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 3 hS 0 (SF)
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 0 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 5 hS 0 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 5 hS 1 (SF), gF's Frame scraped at the last few rotations; gF clicked 1
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 6 hS 1 (SF), hS Layer hit gF Frame and lost a lot of stamina
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 6 hS 2 (SF), hS Layer hit gF Frame but the Frame scraped at the last few rotations, hS Frame gave it more LAD; both clicked 1
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 7 hS 2 (SF), hS Layer hit gF Frame 4 times and lost too much stamina; gF clicked 1
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 8 hS 2 (SF)
Round 11 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 9 hS 2 (OF); hS clicked 1
Round 12 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 9 hS 3 (SF), hS Layer hit gF Frame twice and both lost a lot of stamina but hS Frame LAD provided 2 more rotations
Round 13 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 10 hS 3 (SF); gF clicked 1, hS clicked 2
Round 14 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 11 hS 3 (SF)
Round 15 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 12 hS 3 (SF), gF landed 2 hard hits sending both flying to ridges then hS Layer hit gF Frame and lost some stamina, hS Frame scraped too soon; gF clicked 1, hS clicked 3
Round 16 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 12 hS 5 (BF), hS Layer hard hit and sent both to ridges then scrape and hit hard 2nd time to Burst gF; hS clicked 4
Round 17 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 12 hS 6 (SF), gF hit hard twice but roamed ridge 3 times before back to center and lost too much stamina; gF clicked 2
Round 18 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 12 hS 7 (SF), hS won by a half rotation
Round 19 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 13 hS 7 (SF), gF hard hit once then bounced on wall to hard hit 2nd time, hS destabilized and hit gF Frame to lose too much stamina; gF clicked 2
Round 20 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 13 hS 8 (SF); gF clicked 1
Results:
gF: 62%
hS: 38%
Input: I'm puzzled with the results, especially with how the Frame made such a huge difference from Cross earlier, making my assumption of having lesser contact points is better as incorrect. It may be because of the design of the Frame itself that provided a more solid wall for hS to ram to and cause more stamina loss. Balance-wise, it made gF more wobbly than Glaive, but still sturdier than Cross
8th Testing: Geist Fafnir.8Flow.Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 0 (SF); gF clicked 2, hS clicked 1
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 2 hS 0 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 3 hS 0 (SF), hS Frame scraped too early upon hS Layer hard hitting gF Frame; gF clicked 1, hS clicked 2
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 3 hS 1 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 4 hS 1 (SF); gF clicked 1, hS clicked 2
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 2 (SF)
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 4 hS 3 (SF), hS Frame gave 2 more rotations; both clicked 1
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 4 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 5 hS 4 (SF)
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 6 hS 4 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 11 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 7 hS 4 (SF)
Round 12 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 8 hS 4 (SF)
Round 13 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 9 hS 4 (SF); gF clicked 1, hS clicked 2
Round 14 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 10 hS 4 (SF), hard hit by hS Layer on gF Frame and lost too much stamina then hitting once more to SF; hS clicked 1
Round 15 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 11 hS 4 (SF); gF clicked 2, hS clicked 1
Round 16 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 11 hS 5 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 17 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 12 hS 5 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 18 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 13 hS 5 (SF), hS Frame scraped too early
Round 19 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 13 hS 6 (SF), hS won by a half rotation; gF clicked 1
Round 20 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 14 hS 6 (SF), hS Frame scraped too early; gF clicked 1
Results:
gF: 70%
hS: 30%
Input: It might be Flow that has a lot of synergy with gF, possibly due to the 3 main contact points being aligned to the wings which provided more solid hits against hS and enabled some effective destabilization.
9th Testing: Geist Fafnir.8Bump.Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 0 hS 1 (SF)
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 1 (SF)
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 2 hS 1 (SF); gF clicked 2
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 2 hS 2 (SF)
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 3 hS 2 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 2 (SF), hS Layer hit gF Frame hard and lost too much spin; both clicked 2
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 5 hS 2 (SF)
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 5 hS 3 (SF)
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 6 hS 3 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 7 hS 3 (SF)
Round 11 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 8 hS 3 (SF)
Round 12 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 9 hS 3 (SF)
Round 13 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 9 hS 4 (SF)
Round 14 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 9 hS 5 (SF); gF clicked 1, hS clicked 2
Round 15 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 9 hS 6 (self OF by gF)
Round 16 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 10 hS 6 (SF)
Round 17 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 11 hS 6 (SF)
Round 18 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 12 hS 6 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 19 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 13 hS 6 (OF), gF hard hit hS after rebound from wall directed to pocket; both clicked 1
Round 20 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 13 hS 7 (SF)
Results:
gF: 65%
hS: 35%
Input: Not much to say except for some lucky rebounds from walls by gF, and that Absorb becomes more controllable and acts more as a Stamina Driver due to increased weight. Still as wobbly as Cross, but provides more spin depletion potential against destabilized opponents. Scraping is not too much of an issue and the Frame trades off attack power for more stability
10th Testing: Geist Fafnir.8Lift (Upskirt mode).Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 0 hS 1 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 1 (SF)
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 2 hS 1 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 2 hS 2 (SF), gF Frame scraped too much
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 3 hS 2 (SF)
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 2 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 4 hS 4 (BF), gF behaved like stock vL at hard launch due to Frame scraping
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 4 (DRAW)
Round 8 redo: gF 5 hS 4 (SF)
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 5 hS 6 (BF), hard hits by gF but still Bursted by hS; hS clicked 1
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 5 hS 7 (SF)
Round 11 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 5 hS 8 (self OF by gF before Bursting in the pocket), hard hits on hS by gF but gF Frame scraped and shot to nearest pocket; hS clicked 2
Round 12 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 5 hS 8 (DRAW)
Round 12 redo: gF 6 hS 8 (SF), hS Frame scraped too early
Round 13 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 6 hS 9 (SF), gF scraped a lot after hitting hS; hS clicked 2
Round 14 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 7 hS 9 (SF)
Round 15 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 7 hS 11 (BF), gF Burst even after getting rebound hard hits; hS clicked 1
Round 16 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 8 hS 11 (SF), gF won by a half rotation
Round 17 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 8 hS 12 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 18 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 8 hS 12 (DRAW); hS clicked 1
Round 18 redo: gF 9 hS 12 (SF)
Round 19 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 10 hS 12 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 20 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 10 hS 13 (SF), hS won by a half rotation
Results:
gF: 43%
hS: 57%
Input: I must say I kinda expected hS to win a lot, but I guess the destabilization of gF is quite strong even on a scrape-fest of a Frame which is probably why no Bladers pair it up with anything else than Bearing. Have some draws and 2 Bursts this time, which probably means that heavier Disk+Frame combos don't help gF on Ab
11th Testing: Geist Fafnir.8Lift (Downskirt mode).Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 0 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 1 (SF)
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 2 (SF); gF clicked 2
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 3 (SF)
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 4 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 1 hS 5 (SF)
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 6 (SF); gF clicked 2, hS clicked 1
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 2 hS 6 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 2 hS 7 (SF); gF clicked 3, hS clicked 2
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 3 hS 7 (SF)
Round 11 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 3 hS 8 (SF), gF hard hit hS once then Frame scrape to pocket; both clicked 1
Round 12 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 4 hS 8 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 13 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 4 hS 9 (SF); gF clicked 2, hS clicked 1
Round 14 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 5 hS 9 (SF)
Round 15 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 5 hS 10 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 16 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 5 hS 11 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 17 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 6 hS 11 (SF), gF scrape-fest but managed to destabilize hS so its layer hit gF Frame and lost a lot of stamina while also scraping early
Round 18 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 7 hS 11 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 19 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 8 hS 11 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 20 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 8 hS 12 (SF); both clicked 1
Results:
gF: 40%
hS: 60%
Input: Not really surprising, almost the same as the Upskirt mode, but more scrape-fest. Probably one of the worst Frames to partner with Ab
12th Testing: Geist Fafnir.8Star.Absorb vs Hell Salamander (Defense mode).7Proof.Xtend+ (Stamina mode)
Round 1 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 1 hS 0 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 2 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 2 hS 0 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 3 (hS first, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 3 hS 0 (SF), hS Frame scraped too early; hS clicked 1
Round 4 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 3 hS 1 (SF), gF hit wall rebound but lost too much spin; both clicked 1
Round 5 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 4 hS 1 (SF)
Round 6 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 5 hS 1 (SF), gF stayed on the outer ride for a second before dashing to hS causing hS to destabilize and hit gF Frame to lose spin; hS clicked 1
Round 7 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 6 hS 1 (SF), gF multiple hard hits to slow down hS for destabilization; gF clicked 1, hS clicked 2
Round 8 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 7 hS 1 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 9 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 7 hS 1 (DRAW); gF clicked 1
Round 9 redo: gF 8 hS 1, gF multiple hard hits to hS to destabilize hS and hit gF Frame to lose spin while gF Frame provided more LAD at final impact; both clicked 1
Round 10 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 8 hS 1 (DRAW)
Round 9 redo: gF 9 hS 1 (SF), hS Frame scraped too early
Round 11 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 10 hS 1 (SF); hS clicked 1
Round 12 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 11 hS 1 (SF)
Round 13 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 12 hS 1 (SF); gF clicked 2, hS clicked 1
Round 14 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 12 hS 1 (DRAW), hS was scraping hard at the last hit while gF was already almost out of spin
Round 14 redo: gF 13 hS 1 (SF), hS Frame scraped too early
Round 15 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 13 hS 1 (DRAW), gF hard hits then rebound to destabilize hS but hS Layer hit gF Frame to lose too much spin
Round 15 redo: gF 13 hS 2 (self OF by gF), gF hit twice but Ab attack mode activated staight to pocket
Round 16 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 13 hS 3 (SF); gF clicked 2, hS clicked 1
Round 17 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 14 hS 3 (SF); both clicked 1
Round 18 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 14 hS 4 (SF); both clicked 2
Round 19 (hS first flat launch, gF slide shoot, both hard launch): gF 14 hS 5 (SF); gF clicked 1
Round 20 (gF first, gF slide shoot, hS flat launch, both moderate launch): gF 15 hS 5 (SF); hS clicked 2
Results:
gF: 75%
hS: 25%
Input: This is something new, better than expected based from all Frames that have been tested so far. Lots of draws as well, but the ample weight and LAD that Star can provide seem to have saved gF from unwanted self-Bursts
Will try to have more tests up soon for the rest of the Core Disks+Frames vs hS
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