MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__

Unstoppable · Jan. 04, 2013 7:04 PM

MF-H Kreis (Defense mode) Aquario BD145CS vs. MF-H Cosmic Striker TH170R2F(half worn)
Standard Procedure
Kries: 9/10
Cosmic: 1/10

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vs. MF-H Flash (half worn) Orion W145R2F(half worn)
Standard Procedure
Flash: 3/10
Kreis: 7/10

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vs. W145MF
Standard Procedure
Flash: 7/10
Kreis: 3/10

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vs. Variares (worn) CH120R2F (half worn)
Standard Procedure
Variares: 4/15
Kreis: 11/15

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vs. CH120LRF (very new)
Standard Procedure
Variares: 8/14
Kreis: 6/14

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vs. Beat (worn) Lynx GB145RF (half worn)
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Beat: 4/15
Kreis: 11/15

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ShinobuXD · Jan. 04, 2013 7:07 PM

Why would you test against Cosmic?

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Unstoppable · Jan. 04, 2013 7:09 PM

Because I needed to test against something easy. Later I will test against Variares, Beat & Flash.

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K!d Death · Jan. 04, 2013 7:10 PM

Also, you need 20 rounds, not 10

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Unstoppable · Jan. 04, 2013 7:11 PM

Actually if it's one-sided you can stop at 10-15 rounds and also to keep parts more mint as possible.

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Mr. N · Jan. 04, 2013 7:43 PM

Huh. It look like Kreis is getting too many wall-saves (I assume that the bounce back KOs are wall saves). Anyways, I'll test this against some stuff later, but I swear that I saw Kreis BD145 get a 0% win rate against Flash somewhere...

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ShinobuXD · Jan. 04, 2013 7:43 PM

Why would you post a thread if all it has been shown to beat is Cosmic though? At least hold of posting it until you test against Flash and/or Variares.
Anyways, Blitz did this test for Kreis when it first came out. It's only slightly better than Basalt.
MF-H Kreis (Defense Mode) Aquario BD145CS VS MF VariAres CH120RF (Left Spin)

MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145CS: 11 Wins (All OS)
MF VariAres CH120RF: 9 Wins (All KO)

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Mr. N · Jan. 04, 2013 7:50 PM

Oh here it is: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Kreis-Di...ight=Kreis

Cosmic isn't the best thing to test against, TBH. If you have VariAres, Beat, and Flash, you should definitely test against those first.

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Unstoppable · Jan. 04, 2013 9:21 PM

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UGottaCetus · Jan. 04, 2013 11:03 PM

Can you do benchmark tests with Duo?

View All Faces · Jan. 04, 2013 11:40 PM

The general Defense test results of the Kreis testing thread obviously contradict those of the OP's...

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View All Faces · Jan. 05, 2013 2:30 PM

Also are you sure you are doing sliding shoot? Some of the results seem iffy.

View All Faces · Jan. 05, 2013 2:48 PM

Practise sliding shoot or get a new RF or something because those results aren't as the should be. Anyone skilled with attack types would blow this combo away with flash.

View All Faces · Jan. 05, 2013 3:42 PM

Well, I see some life in this here.

I did my own tests to see what would happen, and it appears to me this combo can get 60-80% wins against MF-H Flash Escolpio S130 MF...

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BeySurge · Jan. 05, 2013 6:04 PM

It's cool because there are not much good combos with kreis metal wheel

Dark Aquario 55 · Jan. 05, 2013 6:39 PM

BeySurge you are right there isn't alot of combos kreis because it is not top tier but it's still really good to get

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View All Faces · Jan. 05, 2013 8:13 PM

Yeah, I found out that the free spinning gimmick of Kreis was a really good Flash counter about 4 months back but didn't use it because it wasn't good for much else Tongue_out

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Unstoppable · Jan. 05, 2013 8:33 PM

Thanks DefStamina88 and DrPepsidew! I'll test with 20 rounds.

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Ok

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TL14 · Mar. 30, 2016 12:04 PM

I used MF-H Kreis Leone I BD145RSF for a long time. It worked pretty well. But of course Aquario and RDF are much better in Defense. Smile

SoSteve · Mar. 30, 2016 12:11 PM

(Jan. 04, 2013 7:04 PM)Unstoppable Wrote: MF-H Kreis (Defense mode) Aquario BD145CS vs. MF-H Cosmic Striker TH170R2F(half worn)
Standard Procedure
Kries: 9/10
Cosmic: 1/10

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1. Cosmic KO
2. Kreis Bounceback KO
3. Kreis OS
4. Kreis OS
5. Kreis OS
6. Kreis Bounceback KO
7. Kreis Bounceback KO
8. Kreis Bounceback KO
9. Kreis Bounceback KO
10. Kries OS
vs. MF-H Flash (half worn) Orion W145R2F(half worn)
Standard Procedure
Flash: 3/10
Kreis: 7/10

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1. Flash KO
2. Kreis OS
3. Flash KO
4. Kreis OS
5. Flash KO
6. Kreis OS
7. Kreis OS
8. Kreis OS
9. Kreis OS
10. Kreis SKO/Wall-Save
vs. W145MF
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Flash: 7/10
Kreis: 3/10

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1. Kreis OS
2. Flash KO
3. Kreis Wall-Save KO
4. Flash KO
5. Flash KO
6. Flash KO
7. Flash KO
8. Flash KO
9. Flash KO
10. Kreis OS
vs. Variares (worn) CH120R2F (half worn)
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Variares: 4/15
Kreis: 11/15

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1. Vari KO
2. Vari KO
3. (Tie, Redone) Kreis OS
4. Vari KO
5. Kreis OS
6. Kreis Wall-Save KO
7. Kreis OS
8. Kreis OS
9. Kreis OS
10. Vari KO
11. (Tie, Redone) Kreis OS
12. Kreis Wall-Save KO
13. Kreis OS
14. Kreis OS
15. Kreis OS
vs. CH120LRF (very new)
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Variares: 8/14
Kreis: 6/14

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1. Kreis Wall-Save KO
2. Vari KO
3. Kreis OS
4. Vari KO
5. Vari KO
6. Vari KO
7. Kreis OS
8. Kreis OS
9. Vari KO
10. (Tie, Redone) Vari KO
11. Tie
12. Kreis OS
13. Vari KO
14. Vari OS
15 (Tie, Redone) Kreis OS
vs. Beat (worn) Lynx GB145RF (half worn)
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Beat: 4/15
Kreis: 11/15

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All OS for Kreis except one SKO/Wall-Save
All KO for Beat
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MF-H Kreis (Defense Mode) Aquario BD145CS VS MF VariAres CH120RF (Left Spin)

MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145CS: 11 Wins (All OS)
MF VariAres CH120RF: 9 Wins (All KO)

Test it against flash Orion bd145 r2f?

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View All Faces · Mar. 30, 2016 12:14 PM

sorry but i recommend you to not to post in old testing thread. unless you have new info or want to argue [with proof/backup] on something well knowm

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TL14 · Mar. 30, 2016 12:37 PM

(Mar. 30, 2016 12:14 PM)FIREFIRE Wrote: sorry but i recommend you to not to post in old testing thread. unless you have new info or want to argue [with proof/backup] on something well knowm

Ok. Thank you for letting me know. Smile