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MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - Unstoppable - Jan. 04, 2013
MF-H Kreis (Defense mode) Aquario BD145CS vs. MF-H Cosmic Striker TH170R2F(half worn)
Standard Procedure
Kries: 9/10
Cosmic: 1/10
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Standard Procedure
Flash: 3/10
Kreis: 7/10
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Flash: 7/10
Kreis: 3/10
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Variares: 4/15
Kreis: 11/15
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Variares: 8/14
Kreis: 6/14
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Beat: 4/15
Kreis: 11/15
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ShinobuXD:
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RE: MF-H Kries Aquario BD145__ - ShinobuXD - Jan. 04, 2013
Why would you test against Cosmic?
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - Unstoppable - Jan. 04, 2013
Because I needed to test against something easy. Later I will test against Variares, Beat & Flash.
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - K!d Death - Jan. 04, 2013
Also, you need 20 rounds, not 10
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - Unstoppable - Jan. 04, 2013
Actually if it's one-sided you can stop at 10-15 rounds and also to keep parts more mint as possible.
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - Mr. N - Jan. 04, 2013
Huh. It look like Kreis is getting too many wall-saves (I assume that the bounce back KOs are wall saves). Anyways, I'll test this against some stuff later, but I swear that I saw Kreis BD145 get a 0% win rate against Flash somewhere...
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - ShinobuXD - Jan. 04, 2013
Why would you post a thread if all it has been shown to beat is Cosmic though? At least hold of posting it until you test against Flash and/or Variares.
Anyways, Blitz did this test for Kreis when it first came out. It's only slightly better than Basalt.
MF-H Kreis (Defense Mode) Aquario BD145CS VS MF VariAres CH120RF (Left Spin)
MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145CS: 11 Wins (All OS)
MF VariAres CH120RF: 9 Wins (All KO)
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - Mr. N - Jan. 04, 2013
Oh here it is: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Kreis-Discussion--46106?pid=915135&highlight=Kreis
Cosmic isn't the best thing to test against, TBH. If you have VariAres, Beat, and Flash, you should definitely test against those first.
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - Unstoppable - Jan. 04, 2013
New testing results!!!
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - UGottaCetus - Jan. 04, 2013
Can you do benchmark tests with Duo?
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - Angry Face - Jan. 04, 2013
The general Defense test results of the Kreis testing thread obviously contradict those of the OP's...
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RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - Thunder Dome - Jan. 05, 2013
Also are you sure you are doing sliding shoot? Some of the results seem iffy.
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - Ultra - Jan. 05, 2013
Practise sliding shoot or get a new RF or something because those results aren't as the should be. Anyone skilled with attack types would blow this combo away with flash.
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - DefStamina88 - Jan. 05, 2013
Well, I see some life in this here.
I did my own tests to see what would happen, and it appears to me this combo can get 60-80% wins against MF-H Flash Escolpio S130 MF...
Round-By-Round Results:
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RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - BeySurge - Jan. 05, 2013
It's cool because there are not much good combos with kreis metal wheel
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - Dark Aquario 55 - Jan. 05, 2013
BeySurge you are right there isn't alot of combos kreis because it is not top tier but it's still really good to get
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - DrPepsidew - Jan. 05, 2013
Yeah, I found out that the free spinning gimmick of Kreis was a really good Flash counter about 4 months back but didn't use it because it wasn't good for much else
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - Unstoppable - Jan. 05, 2013
Thanks DefStamina88 and DrPepsidew! I'll test with 20 rounds.
(Jan. 04, 2013 11:03 PM)UGottaCetus Wrote: Can you do benchmark tests with Duo?Ok
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - TL14 - Mar. 30, 2016
I used MF-H Kreis Leone I BD145RSF for a long time. It worked pretty well. But of course Aquario and RDF are much better in Defense.
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - SoSteve - Mar. 30, 2016
(Jan. 04, 2013 7:04 PM)Unstoppable Wrote: MF-H Kreis (Defense mode) Aquario BD145CS vs. MF-H Cosmic Striker TH170R2F(half worn)
Standard Procedure
Kries: 9/10
Cosmic: 1/10
vs. MF-H Flash (half worn) Orion W145R2F(half worn)Spoiler (Click to View)
Standard Procedure
Flash: 3/10
Kreis: 7/10
vs. W145MFSpoiler (Click to View)
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Flash: 7/10
Kreis: 3/10
vs. Variares (worn) CH120R2F (half worn)Spoiler (Click to View)
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Variares: 4/15
Kreis: 11/15
vs. CH120LRF (very new)Spoiler (Click to View)
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Variares: 8/14
Kreis: 6/14
vs. Beat (worn) Lynx GB145RF (half worn)Spoiler (Click to View)
Standard Procedure
Beat: 4/15
Kreis: 11/15
Other people's testingSpoiler (Click to View)
ShinobuXD:
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Test it against flash Orion bd145 r2f?
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - FIREFIRE CPB - Mar. 30, 2016
sorry but i recommend you to not to post in old testing thread. unless you have new info or want to argue [with proof/backup] on something well knowm
RE: MF-H Kreis Aquario BD145__ - TL14 - Mar. 30, 2016
(Mar. 30, 2016 12:14 PM)FIREFIRE Wrote: sorry but i recommend you to not to post in old testing thread. unless you have new info or want to argue [with proof/backup] on something well knowm
Ok. Thank you for letting me know.