EDIT: For anyone who came here looking for how to use their libra wheel, It IS outclassed by Basalt and Hell nowadays, however, these results should help you find the best use for your libra nonetheless.
Also, I've noticed I never tested MF-H Libra BD145CS. I still havent, as basalt works better, and I really don't want to test libra again Anyway, that should be a great combo, possibly libras best, so yeah (not sure if it gets hit hard enough by opposing beys to scrape or not, but yeah). That said, these tests are still pretty handy The reason I didn't is because BD145 was very new, and CS was still considered outclassed by RS for defence (CS is now far more popular, due to not being outspun by almost everything, while still being excellent defensively), that and I got really worn out from all the testing.

So, I figured, seeing as Kai-V stated the need for more tests to be done before a decision on the unbanning of libra can be made, that I'd a) do some testing myself, and b) try to draw some attention to it by giving it it's own thread, so other people will test it.

This should allow us to collect libra testing, and give non-advanced members somewhere to post it.

Please help out with testing if you can, the sooner we get a good number of results, the sooner a decision on libra will be made.

This is all in relation to the Libra Re-Instatement thread in the advanced forum.

Some of my results are from the Parts Testing Thread

Okay, so the actual data:
My Testing (UPDATED 3RD FEB)

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Standard conditions, rf’s are prime, or just a little bit before prime[/b], rs new to slightly worn, cs rubber very worn, but still a little aggressive at start, and if hit. All launched at 100%. WD's near mint, relatively little movement.
My Libra is the Newest mold, from BB-96

KO=Knock Out
OS= Out Spin
DOS=OS by destabilising, (only where obvious).
Draws re-done, self-ko's redone. I used Eagle (it’s Hasbro) on Vulcan to expose maximum metal for increased smash (though methinks Gemios would be better).

Balance Testing

Libra CH120 RF
V Defense (@120)

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Vs MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RS

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Aquario and Earth are both Hasbro.
Aquario: 10/10, all OS
Libra: 0/10.

Libra Win Rate: 0%

Yeah, worse than with a metal face. To be honest, that’s not really statistically significant, that one win with the metal face was pure luck (1 win = 10%, of course, which makes it look significant). RS nerfs Libra offensively, basically.

Vs MF-H Earth Aquario (Both Hasbro) GB145RS* Accidentally had an MF on Libra here.

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Libra: 1/10, KO
Aquario: 9/10 All OS

Libra WR: 10%
Libra could only win if it made contact right near the start of the battle, and it often took two hits in quick succession to KO Earth Aquario.

V Attack (@ 140)

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Vs MF Vulcan Giraffe 85RF
Vulcan: 3/10, all KO
Libra: 7/10, 2KO, 5 OS
Libra win rate: 70%

This, along with a couple of informal rounds against MF Gravity Perseus R145RF concerned me, but the following stamina test allays those fears)

V Stamina (@140)

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MF-F Earth (TT Mold 2) Bull 230CS, used Earth because I like it on 230 more than burn mold 2. CS works great in this combo.
Bull: 8/10, All OS
Libra: 2/10, Both KO
Libra Win Rate: 20%

Defense Testing

MF-H Libra BD145RS
V Attack

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VS MF Gravity Perseus (Reshuffle ATK Ver) R145RF (Left Spin, Counter Mode)

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Draws were not repeated, as I would be here forever, left spin used as right spin just doesn’t work here.
I did 20 rounds instead, and will do analysis with and without the draws.

NOTE: In testing, draws didn't occur as often, but honestly, while practicing, it was a lot more like rounds 13-17, so yeah.

Both Combos Launched as hard as I possibly could (as in, my poor shoulder), to give Perseus some chance. Draws weren’t counted in the final results/percentages, but are in the detailed results.

Perseus: 6/13 4 OS, 2 KO
Libra: 7/13 6 OS, 1KO
7 Draws.
Libra win rate: 53.8%*
*I honestly don’t think this is right, normally, there are loads of draws, and in a tournament situation, it’d be more likely that the Perseus user would mess up a sliding launch and lose. There ARE normally more draws, so even if that 53.8% figure is right, it means that it’s really only chance outspins either way.

Detailed Results and Notes (PLEASE READ THESE, Especially the notes, I know they’re longwinded and rambling, but they are far more representative of the battles than the plain results. I’m honestly shocked at libra’s poorer performance, so I don’t know if I can trust my results)

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1. GPOS
2 Gravity OS (practically a draw)
3 DRAW
4 GPKO
5 Libra KO
6 Libra OS (practically a draw)
7 DRAW
8 GPOS
9 GPOS
10 LOS
11 LOS (practically a draw)
12 LKO
13 Draw
14 Draw
15 Draw
16 Draw
17 Draw
18 GPKO!
19 LOS
20 LOS


This is really unusual, when practicing, I had far more draws and libra OS’s…
Practically every match is either extremely close or a draw (there are NO huge outspins), I included the full results so you can see how it really went (including the fact there are rounds where the difference between winning and a draw is the Judge). Libra is a dead weight, and Perseus isn’t efficient enough as a spin stealer to reliably outspin it.
It’s generally like blading against a brick, it will NOT move.

There were 3 KO’s. I’ll be honest, this is not normal from what I’ve seen, basically, in the round where gravity KO’d Libra, it was lucky enough to have the wall behind it. In the round where libra KO’d Gravity, it wasn’t saved by a wall, and Libra stayed on the thunder ridge. In Italy (or if you’re Bluezee), I’d think given the apparently stronger launches that you’d have some chance of KO’s, but as long as your against someone launching the same, I really don’t think it’s 50/50 at best. In round 18, Gravity smashed it out of a stadium. I didn’t launch Perseus quite right, so it didn’t flower properly, but it hit libra out of the centre once, and then swung around the stadium and smashed it right out. Maybe the extra momentum helped, but yeah, it’s not common, and I honestly think it’s just luck.

I used left spin, because think of it this way, would you rather try to derail a train by pushing against it, or nudging it in the direction it’s going? In the latter case, you could make it marginally faster, and that small additional force could make it derail itself, in the other case, you will get run over by a train, and die. This is exactly what happens Perseus @ 145 if you put it in right spin, it hits libra, and loses a ridiculous amount of spin.
It’s a similar concept to that used in Martial Arts, you deflect the blow, and then use your opponents momentum against them (they punch, you deflect, and can swing them into an arm lock, throw them (or whatever is normal for the martial art). You don’t just try and block the punch with your hands if you can deflect the energy.

MF-H Libra GB145RS
V Attack

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Vs MF Gravity Perseus R145RF (Left Spin, Counter mode)
GP: 8/10, 3KO, 5OS
Libra: 2/10, both recoil KO’s
Draws:1
Libra W.R: 20%
Notes: Towards the end of the battle, perseus would always have less spin, but seems to be able to steal spin from libra, and destabilise it.


Vs MF Vulcan Eagle 85RF
Libra: 12/20, 11OS, 1KO.
Vulcan: 8/20, all KO
Libra win rate: 60%

I did 20 rounds to try to differentiate, as it was quite close, it could easily have been 50/50

V Stamina

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Vs MF-F Burn Bull 230WD
Libra launched with a sliding shot, to at least try to do something, though honestly, only got a little movement.
Bull: 8/10 all OS
Libra: 2/10 1 KO, 1 DOS
Libra Win Rate: 20%

MF-H Libra GB145CS
V Attack

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Vs MF Lightning L-Drago CH120RF (@120)
LLDrago: 5/10, all KO
Libra: 5/10, 1 close OS, 4KO
Libra win rate: 50%
Many of Libra’s KO’s were rebounds off the walls. I’d like to see this test repeated by two players, launching at the same time, as I think Ldrago needed a little more time before impact.

VS MF Gravity Perseus (Reshuffle ATK Ver) R145RF (Left Spin Counter Mode)
Perseus: 8/10, 7KO, 1OS
Libra: 2/10 Both OS
Libra:20%

V Stamina

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Vs MF-F Burn Bull 230WD
Libra Launched with a sliding shot.
Libra:7/10 5KO, 1OS, 1DOS
BB: 3/10 All OS
Draws: 2
Libra WR: 70%

MF-H Libra 230RS
V Attack

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Vs MF Gravity Perseus R145RF (Left Spin Counter Mode)
Perseus: 7/10, 6KO’s
Libra: 3/10, all OS
Libra WR: 30%
2 Draws

MF-H Libra 230CS
V Attack

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Vs MF Gravity Perseus (Reshuffle ATK ver) R145RF (Left Spin, Counter Mode)
Perseus:10/10, 7KO, 3 OS
Libra: 0/10
Libra Win Rate: 0%
Well, I'm not super surprised, as perseus is a heavy, powerful left spin blade, and CS just couldn't take it.

Vs MF Vulcan Giraffe 85RF
(Giraffe used for the same reason as eagle)
Vulcan sliding shoot, Libra Straight, CS went into attack for a short time at the start of most rounds, before settling.
Vulcan: 1/10, KO
Libra: 9/10, 8 OS, 1KO
Libra win rate: 90%

Well, it’s a 230 defence blade versus a 85 track, right spin attack, no surprises here.

V Stamina

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Vs Burn Aquario AD145WD
(Aquario Hasbro, Burn Mold 2, WD Mint, my Bull wheel is too loose, and my Aquario seems to have a slightly better solo spin time, so yeah.)
Aquario shot first for the first 5, second for the next (would have alternated, but only thought about it half way through) both straight shots .
Aquario:4/10 3 OS, 1KO
Libra: 6/10, 4 OS, 2 KO
Libra Win Rate: 60%

Two of those draws took place at round 5, and when I started launching Libra first in round 6, it dominated, caused Aquario to tilt, and WD couldn't recover. Even when libra looked to be losing, it managed to stay stable long enough.

Stamina Testing

MF-F Libra 85WD
V Attack

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Vs MF Gravity Perseus (Reshuffle ATK Ver) R145RF (Left Spin, counter mode)
Libra: 5/10, all OS
Perseus: 5/10 all KO
Libra WR: 50%
Libra was surprising hard to KO (given it was using WD), but other times it flew out of the stadium. I suspect this is due to the respective orientations of R145 and Gravity (I have to test this some time)

Vs MF-H Vulcan Giraffe 90CS (Not a standard combo, but it's pretty handy. I also only have one 85)
Libra: 3/10, all KO
Vulcan: 7/10, all KO
Libra win rate: 30%

Holy Recoil Batman! Vulcan often had too much recoil for it's own good, and I'm surprised libra didn't win more. Maybe Bull would've been better on vulcan, or 85 may have improved things for it. Also, two of vulcans wins were due to it tipping libra up, which then spun out of the stadium... Just something to ponder.

Vs MF-H Vulcan Giraffe 90RF (I forgot to remove the MF-H, but it didn't make much difference here)
Vulcan: 9/10
Libra: 1/10
Libra Win Rate: 10%

V Stamina

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Vs MF-F Earth (TT mold 2) Bull 230CS (It's a great stamina combination, and even though I have burn mold 2, I like earth more here).
Alternating Launches.
Bull: 10/10, all OS
Libra: 0/10
Libra Win Rate: 0%

Pretty standard for a low track stamina combo.

Blitz's Testing (UPDATED 27th JAN)

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MF-H Libra GB145CS VS Hell Kerbecs 85RF
RF slightly Worn, CS near mint.
Hell shot with Sliding shoot, both at 100%.
All 15 rounds in the MFB Attack Stadium.

MF-H Libra GB145CS: 7 wins (all by OS)
Hell Kerbecs 85RF: 8 wins (all by KO)
Libra Win Rate: 46.67%

MF-H Libra GB145CS VS MF Vulcan Horuseus 85RF
RF slightly Worn, CS near mint.
Vulcan shot with Sliding shoot, both at 100%.
All 15 rounds in the MFB Attack Stadium

MF-H Libra GB145CS: 8 wins (all by OS)
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85RF: 7 wins (all be KO)
Libra Win Rate: 53.33%

MF-H Libra GB145CS VS MF Lightning LDrago 85RF
RF slightly Worn, CS near mint.
LLD shot with Sliding shoot, both at 100%.
All 15 rounds in the MFB Attack Stadium

MF-H Libra GB145CS: 6 wins (4 wins by OS, 2 by KO)
MF Lightning LDrago 85RF: 9wins (all wins by KO)
Libra Win Rate: 40%

Ray Jokers Testing (UPDATED 27th Jan)

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MF-H Libra BD145RSF vs. MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F
Standard Testing Procedues
Beylauncher L + R

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Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra KO
Vulcan KO
Vulcan KO
Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra OS

Libra win rate: 80%

Libra is like a rock.

MF-H Libra BD145RSF vs. MF Lightning L Drago (Upper Mode) 90R2F
Standard Testing Procedures
Beylauncher L for L Drago

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Draw
Draw
Draw
L Drago OS
Draw
Libra OS
Draw
L Drago KO
Libra OS
L Drago OS

Libra win rate: 20%

There were way too many draws to redo.

MF-H Libra 230RSF vs. MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F
Standard Testing Procedures

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Vulcan KO
Libra OS
Vulcan KO
Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra OS
Vulcan KO
Libra OS
Libra OS
Vulcan OS

Libra win rate: 70%

MF-H Libra 230RSF vs. MF Lightning L Drago (Upper Mode) 90R2F
Standard Testing Procedures

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Libra OS
L Drago KO
Libra OS
L Drago KO
Libra OS
L Drago KO
Libra KO
L Drago OS
L Drago OS
Libra OS

Libra win rate: 40%

MF-H Libra 230RSF vs. MF Meteo L Drago 90R2F
Standard Testing Procedures

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Libra OS
Meteo KO
Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra OS
Meteo KO
Meteo KO
Libra OS

Libra win rate: 70%

Since Meteo can push RSF far back into the Tornado Ridge, once RSF touched the tornado ridge, Meteo knocked it out from there.

MF-H Libra 230RSF vs. MF Lightning L Drago 145R2F
Standard Testing Procedures
Beylaunchers for both

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L Drago KO
L Drago KO
L Drago OS
L Drago KO
L Drago KO
L Drago KO
Libra OS
L Drago KO
Libra OS
L Drago KO

Libra win rate: 20%

MF-H Libra 230RSF vs. MF Meteo L Drago (Barrage Mode) 145R2F
Standard Testing Procedure

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Libra KO
Meteo KO
Meteo KO
Meteo KO
Libra OS
Meteo KO
Libra OS
Meteo KO
Meteo KO
Meteo KO

Libra win rate: 30%

Control_'s testing (UPDATED 1st FEB!)

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Gear: BeyLauncher LR w/ Launcher Rubber w/ 3 segment Grip w/ Launcher Rubber Grip Mule w/ Extension w/ Metal Assist w/ Angle Compass

Stadium: TT Attack Stadium
Sliding Shoot used for every "RF/LRF/R2F Based Combo used"
Both shots at 100% Power
Libra always went first.

MF-H Gravity Perseus (Attack Mode, Counter, Right Spin) 85RF = GP
Vs
MF-H Libra (BB-96) GB145RSF = LB

RF is in prime sliding shoot condition.
RSF is slightly worn.

MF-H Libra GB145RSF 14 - MF-H Gravity Perseus 85RF 9

Detailed Results for GP (Click to View)

GP = KO
LB = OS
LB = OS
GP = KO
GP = KO
LB = OS
LB = KO
DRAW (Double KO)
LB = OS
LB = KO
GP = KO
GP = KO
LB = OS
DRAW (Double KO)
GP = KO
LB = OS
LB = KO
LB = OS
GP = KO
LB = OS
GP = KO
LB = OS
GP = KO
LB = OS
LB = OS

OVERALL:
GP KO x 9

DRAW x 2

LB OS x 11
LB KO x 3

GP won x 9
LB won x 14

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Gear: BeyLauncher LR w/ Launcher Rubber w/ 3 segment Grip w/ Launcher Rubber Grip Mule w/ Extension w/ Metal Assist w/ Angle Compass

Stadium: TT Attack Stadium
Sliding Shoot used for every "RF/LRF/R2F Based Combo used"
Both shots at 100% Power
Libra always went first.

MF Lightning Ldrago (upper) 100LRF = LL
Vs
MF-H Libra GB145RSF - LB

LRF is in Prime
RSF is slightly worn.

MF Lightning Ldrago (upper) 100LRF 8 - MF-H Libra GB145RSF 15

Detailed Results for LL (Click to View)

LB = KO
LB=OS
LL = KO
LB = OS
LB = OS
LL = KO
LB = OS
LL = KO
LB = KO
LB = OS
LB = OS
LL = KO
LB = OS
LB = OS
DRAW (double KO)
LB = OS
LL = KO
LL = KO
LB = OS
LB = KO
LL = KO
DRAW (double KO)
LB = OS
LB = OS
LL = KO

OVERALL:
LL KO x 8

DRAW x 2

LB OS x 13
LB KO x 2

LL won x 8
LB won x 15

Cye Kinomiya's Testing (UPDATED 3rd Feb!)

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I was reading through Fyuuor's RSF vs RS vs CS thread and it looked like there really isn't a defense combo that has an answer for MF Lightning L Drago 100RF. Only RS could get 5-5 results. (I don't have 230 yet.) I tried MF-H Earth Bull C145CS, but the attack combo got a 90% win rate similarly to Fyuuor's test. I thought that the Libra Wheel would definitely get better results so:
MF-H Lightning L Drago 100RF vs MF-H Libra C145CS
7-13 Libra win rate: 65

I randomly thought about the recent thread about low track defense combos and:
MF-H Lightning L Drago 100RF vs MF-H Libra 85CS
5-15 Libra win rate: 75%

When I think about it from the perspective that only the Libra wheel (bar 230 combos) stands up to MF Lightning L Drago 100RF, I feel even moreso that it should be unbanned.

I ran some other tests too:
MF-H Libra 85CS vs Earth Bull 85SD
1-9 Libra win rate: 10%

MF-H Libra C145CS vs Earth Bull 85SD
8-2 Libra win rate: 80%

MF-H Libra C145CS vs Earth Bull AD145SD
0-10 Libra win rate: 0%

With MF-H Libra C145CS vs Earth Bull 85SD, the Libra combo would force the stamina combo into the stadium floor really easily so I switched to AD145.

All tests were done in the attack stadium with MFB grips. With the MF Lightning L Drago 100RF tests, the attack combo was always launches second with a banking shot. The first combo would be shot with a straight shot. With all other tests, both were launched with a straight shot and I switched which one was shot first every round.
[Ed:Libra was BB-96 Mold]

VIDEOS!
Videos by Fyuoor

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MF - H Libra GB145RS VS MF Meteo L Drago 90R2F
Meteo L Drago: 7/7
Libra: 0/7
Libra Win Rate: 0%

MF-H Libra 230RS VS MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F
Vulcan: 0/4
Libra: 4/4
Libra Win Rate: 100%

MF - H Libra GB145RS VS MF Pegasus 85RF

Pegasus: 3/8
Libra: 5/8
Libra Win Rate: 62.5%

Evan has a great thread going here, with testing of libra+rsf against various attack beys, done by him and other members: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Breaking...nst-Attack

I'll do my best to update this post as more testing is done. I myself have more tests coming, but yeah.

If anyone can test MF Libra CH120RF against Libra Defence combos, and against newer attack blades, it'd be really good.

Also, more testing of MFH Libra BD145RS/RSF/CS is needed.

Kai-V has requested more tests of the BB-96 Libra, so PLEASE INCLUDE WHAT MOLD OF LIBRA YOU ARE USING
But really, any testing is appreciated, if you've got links to previous or new testing, and any more testing, and are okay with them being included here, post them (you'll get credit).

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I'll do some testing when i'm home since I have Libra, GB145 and RS.

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Nice thread! Also, do you have any other defenseive bottoms such as CS or RSF? these would provide better results relative to Libra's actual potential against current attack types...

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Thanks megablader, that'd be great.
Nojo, thanks, it's kind inspired by your threads. My cs's are quite worn, and are a bit aggro, but there will be testing with them, though seeing as we're testing libras game breaking potential, I am probably going to put more focus on rs, as that has more potential to be game breaking.

Anyway, I've just been doing some warmup round with mf libra ch120RF. While it's been dominating attack and stamina types, the boost given to it's old weakness, defense, by rs means I'm yet to beat MF Earth Aquario GB145RS. Funnily enough, it does seen to hurt mf earth aquila 230rs much more. Also, whole using aquila on vulcan gives it enough smash to ko libra, bull seems to work better against mf libra ch120rf, as it doesn't get ko'd as easily. I really have to get a gemios cw to try on vulcan, though.

IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO TEST MF LIBRA CH120RF Against newer attack types, go ahead, I can't manage to get two RF's to behave at once right now, especially with Libra.

Oh, and I've got screw capricorn, hell kerbecs, and midnight bull in the post, so once they arrive, I'll test bd145 and mf with and against libra.

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OP UPDATED WITH MORE TESTING!

I've still got more to do (I've got a list, I'm out tomorrow, but the next thing I do will probably be re-testing the already tested combos against combos they haven't been tested against yet, so we can get a better idea of what libra combos are actually best), but I think that's plenty for tonight.

I've also prettied it up a bit. When I have other members testing to include, I'll need to make it a bit cleaner again.
I hope the hundred or so spoiler tags aren't too much, I figure when (if) the results start rolling in, they'll be useful.

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I had some spare time to do some testing -

MF-H Libra GB145CS VS Hell Kerbecs 85RF
RF slightly Worn, CS near mint.
Hell shot with Sliding shoot, both at 100%.
All 15 rounds in the MFB Attack Stadium.

MF-H Libra GB145CS: 7 wins (all by OS)
Hell Kerbecs 85RF: 8 wins (all be KO)

MF-H Libra GB145CS VS MF Vulcan Horuseus 85RF
RF slightly Worn, CS near mint.
Vulcan shot with Sliding shoot, both at 100%.
All 15 rounds in the MFB Attack Stadium

MF-H Libra GB145CS: 8 wins (all by OS)
MF Vulcan Horuseus 85RF: 7 wins (all be KO)

MF-H Libra GB145CS VS MF Lightning LDrago 85RF
RF slightly Worn, CS near mint.
LLD shot with Sliding shoot, both at 100%.
All 15 rounds in the MFB Attack Stadium

MF-H Libra GB145CS: 6 wins (4 wins by OS, 2 by KO)
MF Lightning LDrago 85RF: 9wins (all wins by KO)

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Wow, that's fantastic, thanks a bunch I'll add them to the OP tomorrow if that's okay?

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Wow, that's fantastic, thanks a bunch I'll add them to the OP tomorrow if that's okay?

No problem, and that's fine.

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what if we test a libra combo against a 230 combo. i think the lbra wheel might be able to do something against it

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What's the point? We're testing it in defence combos. Cause we're trying to see if it should be unbanned. Testing against 230 combos shows nothing it this respect.

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No, not quite, I plan to test it's use in stamina combos, and in libra ch120rf (which I now realise doesn't use an mf), so there'll be tests against 230.
There should be some tests against 230 in the op already. Remember, libra was banned as it was great at defence AND stamina, and in libra ch120rf.

Also, 230 is beaten by most left spin combos of decent height. Shame about vulcan, though.

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th!nkBlargh|H-Code Product List

That isn't the reason why it was banned. Look at the article cause your saying it was banned cause it was too good for stamina and defence which was only part of it.

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Oh, yeah, there's more too it than that, but I thought you were saying it was just banned because of it's defence. In my defence, it was 330 AM here.

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meteor king could you try libra CH120 CS instead of RF with a slightly aggresive CS, it shoukd in theory be able to beat all three tyes so could u try it plz..

Hmm, MF-H Libra 230CS might be able to own all three types aswell.

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MF-H Libra 230RS
MF-H Infinity Libra R145WB
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF
MF-H Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F/CS
MF Lightning L-Drago (Multi-Hit) CH120RF
MF Gravity Perseus (Left Spin, Counter) D125R2F
MF Pegasis 145RF
MF Meteo L-Drago 100WD
MF-F Flame Bull 100SF
MF-F Burn Cancer 90WD
Ray Gil 100RF
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Could you make the first poste more leggible plz?
It's like opening a matryoshka XD

how will it do that milkychipz stamina types will own it, 230 is not good for attack.

how will it do that milkychipz stamina types will own it, 230 is not good for attack.

Well,
Cs is actually an Rubber coated sharp
As we know 230+cs can withstand any low attackers with defence
And when playing against stamina the stamina type keeps it stable enough for it to be in the sharp tip resulting in Win against all three types

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how will it do that milkychipz stamina types will own it, 230 is not good for attack.

It will PWN because 230 works well against other attack types, and 230CS can OS 85WD etc.

Too many spoilers in the OP, hah.

Seperate them with a line, like this:

Code:

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Much easier.

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MF-H Libra 230RS
MF-H Infinity Libra R145WB
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RSF
MF-H Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F/CS
MF Lightning L-Drago (Multi-Hit) CH120RF
MF Gravity Perseus (Left Spin, Counter) D125R2F
MF Pegasis 145RF
MF Meteo L-Drago 100WD
MF-F Flame Bull 100SF
MF-F Burn Cancer 90WD
Ray Gil 100RF
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how will it do that milkychipz stamina types will own it, 230 is not good for attack.

Read what he said again. He said it would beat all three types which doesn't mean that it has attack ability at all. 230 is good for stamina as well so it could beat all three types.

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230cs is already on my list with both mfh and mff (apparently mf-f earth bull 230cs is a beast), and at least one of them I'll do tomorrow, unless something comes up.
I'll do a couple tests witg ch120cs, though I'm not totally satisfied with my cs's (at least for consistent attack) right now, I need a new takara one, but I'm short on cash at the moment, but I can see it losing to attack types, and it might not hit 230 hard enough, so it's not top priority.

Yeah, I went overboard on spoilers (I thought the same as BakaPhoenix this morning), I'll fix it tomorrow, and add blitz's results

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MF-H Libra BD145RSF vs. MF Vulcan Horuseus 85R2F
Standard Testing Procedues
Beylauncher L + R

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Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra KO
Vulcan KO
Vulcan KO
Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra OS
Libra OS

Libra win rate: 80%

Libra is like a rock.


MF-H Libra BD145RSF vs. MF Lightning L Drago (Upper Mode) 90R2F
Standard Testing Procedures
Beylauncher L for L Drago

Spoiler (Click to View)

Draw
Draw
Draw
L Drago OS
Draw
Libra OS
Draw
L Drago KO
Libra OS
L Drago OS

Libra win rate: 20%

There were way too many draws to redo.

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Wait, so BD fits on Libra..? Dear god,
Anyway it didn't fit on Earth so.. If you haven't already, could you try 230CS/RSF..?

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If libra will be unbanned, tests also need to include using it in attack as well as defense. You also need to test it with mf libra ch120 rf, so we can see if libra still has balance capabilities.

The attack combo I've been using with libra, that seems to perform the best is MF-h libra 85 rf. I don't have 230, but my guess is that it will fail against it. Libra should also be tested with metal flat, so that the tests show that it is 100% clear libra should be unbanned.

Wait, so BD fits on Libra..? Dear god,
Anyway it didn't fit on Earth so.. If you haven't already, could you try 230CS/RSF..?

The normal version does, not Boost Mode.

I will try those asap.

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