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BBG-3/4 Zero-G Stadium Attack Type Discussion

Apr. 29, 2012  1:04 AM
 
(Apr. 28, 2012  6:40 PM)Arupaeo Wrote: Tall tracks on what tip though? 230 MB does not fall prey to the effect that you are describing, so please tell us the specific tips for which you have observed this effect.

this was anecdotal evidence from playing around with the stadium. the tip was WD. 230 on its own won't, but if it's thrown off balance with impact from another bey, it tilts, and when it does there's often a high chance it scrapes the moving stadium. and what normally results in a recovery in normal stadiums results in a bey struggling to regain its balance on a surface that keeps changing angle.
Apr. 29, 2012  2:25 AM
 
Any requests? I'm getting the stadium tomorrow
Apr. 29, 2012  9:34 AM
 
(Apr. 29, 2012  2:25 AM)Galaxy4Stars Wrote: Any requests? I'm getting the stadium tomorrow
I'd like to see:
MF-L Phantom Cancer AD145XF VS Any decent combo
Because Phantom, Cancer and AD145 are very good together plus XF is meant to be good in this stadium. Also Phantom stallers were good it BB-10's

Apr. 29, 2012  4:47 PM
 
(Apr. 29, 2012  2:25 AM)Galaxy4Stars Wrote: Any requests? I'm getting the stadium tomorrow

Could you try Samurai Saramanda 130RS/MB? [Crystal Up]

I just want to see if Crystal Wheels have any use in defense or endurance. I think they've been pushed aside to soon haha.

Do the the Phantom staller combo too, please. MLD/LDD/LDG AD145XF could use testing too.

Thanks!
Apr. 29, 2012  9:15 PM
 
Just got this stadium today, for some reason Crystalized Smaurai Ifraid (with the red plastic on top) W145LRF seems decent but I think it'd be more better with an MSF. Of course the only defence combo I did it with was MF-H Duo 230MB.
Apr. 30, 2012  1:48 AM
 
Equipment...
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MSF-Samarada Shinobi 130RS (CW Up) Vs. MF-H VariAres W145XF (Left Spin)

SS:5 (2 KO 2 OS 1 SKO/ZGKO)
VA:15(5 KO 5 OS 5 SKO/ZGKO)
Winning Percentage: 25%

It an OK combination.....not so great with XF/WF user but it will work fine with GCf/CF user

Phantom Stalling...im working on it....but 1 thing i don't have is Cancer CW so can i use Bull or Aquario CW?
Apr. 30, 2012  2:10 AM
 
Man...it looks like Crystal Wheels might not get much use in the future. It's a pity, they're so interesting. Unhappy

I think Orion works better than Bull or Aquario but someone correct me if I'm wrong. I don't test clear wheels very much.
Apr. 30, 2012  4:16 AM
 
MF-L Phantom Bull AD145XF Vs. MSF Samarada Samarada SW145(Attack)CS

PB:10 OS
SS:10 OS

Winning Percentage: 50%

Phantom Stall still works ^_^

MF-H L Drago Guardian AD145XF Vs MSF Samarada Samarada SW145(Attack)CS

LDG:15 (5 OS 5 KO 5 SKO/ZGKO)
SS:5 ( 2 KO 3 SKO/ZGKO)

Winning Percentage: 75%

I totally love this combo :D. A heavy left spin bey, low recoil, and VERY easy to control

MF-H L Drago Guardian AD145GCF Vs MSF Samarada Samarada SW145(Attack)CS

LDG: 15 ( 5 KO 10 SKO/ZGKO)
SS: 5 SKO/ZGKO

I also like this combo too. GCF with LDG makes the stadium sway like a freaking boat :P

Time to rest I'm all tired haha

Apr. 30, 2012  11:01 PM
 
Thank you for the tests!

Those L Drago Guardian combos are impressive!
May. 03, 2012  4:40 AM
 
So from my testing today it seems that if launched at the correct angle a WD tip can be used for attack.

Also, any track under 105 falls prey to scraping. 105 seems to be a perfect attack height. I haven't had any scraping issues with 105.

BD145 is horrible on any attack combo unless it's used on with Hell.

Sorry if this has been said before. I didn't see anyone mention these in this thread yet.
May. 08, 2012  3:13 AM
 
I put on a brace and did some testing - nothing good enough to slap in the Customizations Forum formally, but basically I just matched E230 against E230(hilariously enough, doing this will unscrew your facebolt in right spin versus right spin REALLY quick - like, three or four battles!), Thief Phoenic R145/T125/E230/W105R2F against MSF Shinobi Saramanda E230RS, just to see if it had any ability to move things - and it really don't, without Synchrom.

Then, I put together Ifraid Phoenic(and Phoenic Ifraid) E230/R145R2F, and I did manage to score some fair KOs against MSF Saramanda Saramanda E230RS, but it still wasn't often enough to be worth mention.

I also put together MSF Saramanda Saramanda E-E230(two disks, hahahabdubfsdfg)RS and found that it probably could've deflected bullets, and looked every inch a very large tower cake balancing on a needle point in a salad bowl.

As I lack a second Phoenic wheel, I will not be making a testing thread for it - there's no way this thing is competitive at all without Synchrom, and the other Chrome Wheels out right now cover its contact points completely during Synchrom.
May. 08, 2012  10:53 PM
 
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May. 09, 2012  12:41 AM
 
It will not KO it with any reliability, Crab. Even on R2F, that exact same combo does essentially nothing to RS-based Saramanda^2.

Orojya, Saramanda, and Ifraid all completely block Phoenic's contact points.
May. 09, 2012  7:53 PM
 
Oh, that's a real shame! Really, we need a wheel to Synchrom to Phoenic that's smaller than it so we can get some test results for attack. I'd be interested to see Attack results for that.
May. 09, 2012  9:14 PM
 
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May. 09, 2012  10:25 PM
 
I can't really make any fair guess about it, but it would certainly make it do better than it does now.

MSF Saramanda^2 RS is fairly hard to move around, but I'm not sure it's the best thing available - it's just what I've got.
May. 10, 2012  1:17 AM
 
Ok, since we have S series tips labeled to be "Defensive", does anyone know how Defense combos that use ES do? I'll guess that RS is still a better choice, but the more you know...
May. 10, 2012  1:17 AM
 
I tried ES, and it seems to bounce a lot when you first launch it, with a straight launch, for whatever reason... it rattles really, really bad.
May. 10, 2012  11:22 AM
 
ok, i got samurai ifraid and i theorized a combo, ifraid ifraid (if you can do that) GB145CF. gb145 doesn't get in the way of cs it seams but without the stadium i can't test it. the best i got to see the effects of cs is a bakugan tin lid that acts like a zero g stadium when placed in a beyblade stadium. with that gb doesn't come close to contact to the lid. theoretically, ifraid balences ifraid and gb145 helps this more, and cs is there to maxamize the zero g attack technique. can someone please test this, unless someone already has.
May. 10, 2012  6:05 PM
 
just playing around with r2f in the zero g stadium, it seems that r2f acts alot more violently in left spin than in right spin, i used variares on r2f to do this, also using r2f in left spin allows more consistent attacks to the opposing bey.
May. 11, 2012  4:57 AM
 
Can anybody try out MF-H Duo Aquario 230JB (and if you have it, separate E230 testing)?
I've very interested in seeing the performance of JB in this stadium, especially with this combination.
May. 11, 2012  6:57 AM
 
Yeah, not gonna lie, I'm super-duper curious about JB, though perhaps that is just because I want to see it get some love.
May. 20, 2012  6:58 AM
 
oh, i just thought of an awsome zero-g stadium combo i would like to be tested. it's MF pegasis 145 CF/GCF. pegasis' agresiveness on 145 fused with CF/GCF should make the stadium sway so much it would either zero-g attack the opponet out or just self ko, hopefully the first.
May. 20, 2012  8:09 AM
 
(May. 20, 2012  6:58 AM)Giraton Wrote: oh, i just thought of an awsome zero-g stadium combo i would like to be tested. it's MF pegasis 145 CF/GCF. pegasis' agresiveness on 145 fused with CF/GCF should make the stadium sway so much it would either zero-g attack the opponet out or just self ko, hopefully the first.

Few problems:
1. Pegasis is very light. While that can increase the speed of the combination (which can then increase the motion, or at least that's what I understand from discussing it with Hazel), it's not going to be effective enough to budge anything notable at its weight even with extra speed.
2. According to Hazel, R2F causes much more swaying than CF/GCF.
May. 21, 2012  3:18 AM
 
Yeah, speed does equal more motion, which can lead either to far more Zero-G KOs, or just regular KOs, so being somewhat lighter isn't as huge of a death sentence - but, 7-10 grams is really way too much of a weight difference, still.
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