Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events

(Aug. 16, 2021  2:03 AM)~Mana~ Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2021  1:16 AM)tubitr Wrote: Lc2's usually pretty wobbly without 4A, 1S with it isn't bad but seems like an odd pairing unless the blader didn't have Solomon/Hy2 or 4A

Definitely 1S. V2KX and bcpaws can probably elaborate more on the choice, but I was a bit surprised too, haha.

I mean, I've seen it on 1A and Variable on a Hollow combo, I'm not really surprised at all anymore.
Welcome to NC Son Goku

arka.paul 1st Bahamut Roar Over Drift 0 (Single Phase and Deck Format)
arka.paul 1st Valkyrie Devil Tapered Never 2 (Single Phase and Deck Format)
arka.paul 1st Spriggan Astral Giga Mobius 6 (Deck Format Only)

NateRoss 2nd Fafnir Roar Tapered Drift 2 (Single Phase and Deck Format)
NateRoss 2nd Belial Dynamite(F) Tapered Bearing 2 (Single Phase and Deck Format)
NateRoss 2nd Spriggan Lord Wheel Xtend+ (Deck Format Only)

LJ-Blader 3rd Valkyrie Dynamite(F) Over Bearing 0 (Single Phase Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Belial Dynamite(F) Over Bearing 0 (Single Phase and Deck Format)
LJ-Blader 3rd Fafnir Vanish Tapered Rise 3 (Single Phase and Deck Format)
LJ-Blader 3rd Spriggan Astral Nexus(S) Quattro (Stamina/Defense) (Deck Format Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Helios II (MCC) Rage Metal Xtreme 3A (Deck Format Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Lucifer II Hollow Wheel Xtend+(Stamina) 4A (Balanced) (Deck Format Only)
Dang, nicely done NateRoss. Quarterfinals on Saturday, 2nd place on Sunday. Heck of a weekend!
(Aug. 17, 2021  1:08 AM)StayCool Wrote: Welcome to NC Son Goku

arka.paul 1st Bahamut Roar Over Drift 0           (Single Phase and Deck Format)
arka.paul 1st Valkyrie Devil Tapered Never 2                (Single Phase and Deck Format)
arka.paul 1st Spriggan Astral Giga Mobius 6             (Deck Format Only)

NateRoss 2nd Fafnir Roar Tapered Drift 2            (Single Phase and Deck Format)
NateRoss 2nd Belial Dynamite(F) Tapered Bearing 2              (Single Phase and Deck Format)
NateRoss 2nd Spriggan Lord Wheel Xtend+           (Deck Format Only)

LJ-Blader 3rd Valkyrie Dynamite(F) Over Bearing 0          (Single Phase Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Belial Dynamite(F) Over Bearing 0         (Single Phase and Deck Format)
LJ-Blader 3rd Fafnir Vanish Tapered Rise 3           (Single Phase and Deck Format)
LJ-Blader 3rd Spriggan Astral Nexus(S) Quattro (Stamina/Defense) (Deck Format Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Helios II (MCC) Rage Metal Xtreme 3A        (Deck Format Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Lucifer II Hollow Wheel Xtend+(Stamina) 4A (Balanced)         (Deck Format Only)
dang i see my boi LJB is poggers at tournament well thats ultra poggers
LJB WHAT?!?! YOU BECAME AN ORGANIZER!??!?!? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
(Aug. 17, 2021  1:08 AM)StayCool Wrote: Welcome to NC Son Goku

arka.paul 1st Bahamut Roar Over Drift 0           (Single Phase and Deck Format)
arka.paul 1st Valkyrie Devil Tapered Never 2                (Single Phase and Deck Format)
arka.paul 1st Spriggan Astral Giga Mobius 6             (Deck Format Only)

NateRoss 2nd Fafnir Roar Tapered Drift 2            (Single Phase and Deck Format)
NateRoss 2nd Belial Dynamite(F) Tapered Bearing 2              (Single Phase and Deck Format)
NateRoss 2nd Spriggan Lord Wheel Xtend+           (Deck Format Only)

LJ-Blader 3rd Valkyrie Dynamite(F) Over Bearing 0          (Single Phase Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Belial Dynamite(F) Over Bearing 0         (Single Phase and Deck Format)
LJ-Blader 3rd Fafnir Vanish Tapered Rise 3           (Single Phase and Deck Format)
LJ-Blader 3rd Spriggan Astral Nexus(S) Quattro (Stamina/Defense) (Deck Format Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Helios II (MCC) Rage Metal Xtreme 3A        (Deck Format Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Lucifer II Hollow Wheel Xtend+(Stamina) 4A (Balanced)         (Deck Format Only)
What spin direction were the spriggan combos?
I used Astral on left the entire time.
Am I the only one that finds Roar outclassed? Putting on Giga rise it can't tie with Heaven on drift
(Aug. 17, 2021  5:13 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: Am I the only one that finds Roar outclassed? Putting on Giga rise it can't tie with Heaven on drift

I'm sorry, what? Heaven?
(Aug. 17, 2021  5:13 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: Am I the only one that finds Roar outclassed? Putting on Giga rise it can't tie with Heaven on drift

I believe Roar has better defense than Vanish with the cost being a bit of stamina. I’ve also heard Vanish can scrape, which may also be another reason roar is used.
(Aug. 17, 2021  2:29 AM)Sniper Wrote:
(Aug. 17, 2021  1:08 AM)StayCool Wrote: Welcome to NC Son Goku

arka.paul 1st Bahamut Roar Over Drift 0           (Single Phase and Deck Format)
arka.paul 1st Valkyrie Devil Tapered Never 2                (Single Phase and Deck Format)
arka.paul 1st Spriggan Astral Giga Mobius 6             (Deck Format Only)

NateRoss 2nd Fafnir Roar Tapered Drift 2            (Single Phase and Deck Format)
NateRoss 2nd Belial Dynamite(F) Tapered Bearing 2              (Single Phase and Deck Format)
NateRoss 2nd Spriggan Lord Wheel Xtend+           (Deck Format Only)

LJ-Blader 3rd Valkyrie Dynamite(F) Over Bearing 0          (Single Phase Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Belial Dynamite(F) Over Bearing 0         (Single Phase and Deck Format)
LJ-Blader 3rd Fafnir Vanish Tapered Rise 3           (Single Phase and Deck Format)
LJ-Blader 3rd Spriggan Astral Nexus(S) Quattro (Stamina/Defense) (Deck Format Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Helios II (MCC) Rage Metal Xtreme 3A        (Deck Format Only)
LJ-Blader 3rd Lucifer II Hollow Wheel Xtend+(Stamina) 4A (Balanced)         (Deck Format Only)
What spin direction were the spriggan combos?

Left, my bad
(Aug. 16, 2021  1:53 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: "Overly Complicated Rules" winning combos, Aug 14th 2021
(Unranked because of 3v3 format, but you should take these combos from at least the first three bladers seriously)

[Image: PXL-20210814-211720715.jpg]

1. shota
Dynamite Belial+F Giga Bearing-2
Savior Valkyrie Nexus Venture+V-7 (First Stage Only)
Rage Helios2 (MCC) Jolt 3A
Roar Bahamut Tapered Drift-10

2. Ardmore Bladers
Dynamite Belial+F Giga Bearing-2
Dynamite Belial+F Tapered Bearing-2
Dynamite Belial+F Giga Drift-2 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Belial+F Giga Rise-2 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Belial+F Tapered Drift-2 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Vanish Fafnir Giga Bearing-3 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Bearing-3 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Judgment Diabolos Shot (First Stage Only)
Rage Helios2 (MCC) Xceed’+Z 3A (First Stage Only)
Rage Helios2 (MCC) Quick’ 3A (Deck Format Finals Only)
Roar Fafnir Tapered Bearing-7 (First Stage Only)

3. LJ-Blader
Dynamite Belial+F Over Bearing-0
Astral Spriggan Nexus+S(Solid) Atomic-6
Astral Spriggan Nexus+S(Solid) Quartto(Stamina)-6 (First Stage Only)
Rage Helios2 (MCC) Metal Xtreme 3A
Roar Bahamut Giga Drift-10 (First Stage Only)
Hollow Lucifer2 Wheel Xtend+(Stamina) 4A
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Rise-3 (First Stage Only)

4. DeceasedCrab
Dynamite Belial+F Over Drift-10
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Bearing-2
Astral Spriggan (Right) Nexus+S(Freespin) Quattro(Stamina)-0 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Belial+F Tapered Bearing-10 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Vanish Fafnir Over Drift-2 (Deck Format Finals Only)

Gratz on your first tournament win shota! Looking forward to seeing that on a ranked one.
Fun notes: Ardmore is trolling us so hard with that Judgement Diabolos Shot. Getting that on the winning combos is hilarious. Also, Xceed’+Z is not a typo, which I guess makes him some sort of Cave Demon. He's a great blader but sometimes he does very concerning things which work extremely well and unsettle the heck out of me.
Not pictured: My very similar Rage combo that I used to destroy myself.

...Judgement Diabolos Shot? Am I reading that correctly?
(Aug. 17, 2021  4:18 PM)BDM Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2021  1:53 AM)DeceasedCrab Wrote: "Overly Complicated Rules" winning combos, Aug 14th 2021
(Unranked because of 3v3 format, but you should take these combos from at least the first three bladers seriously)

[Image: PXL-20210814-211720715.jpg]

1. shota
Dynamite Belial+F Giga Bearing-2
Savior Valkyrie Nexus Venture+V-7 (First Stage Only)
Rage Helios2 (MCC) Jolt 3A
Roar Bahamut Tapered Drift-10

2. Ardmore Bladers
Dynamite Belial+F Giga Bearing-2
Dynamite Belial+F Tapered Bearing-2
Dynamite Belial+F Giga Drift-2 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Belial+F Giga Rise-2 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Belial+F Tapered Drift-2 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Vanish Fafnir Giga Bearing-3 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Bearing-3 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Judgment Diabolos Shot (First Stage Only)
Rage Helios2 (MCC) Xceed’+Z 3A (First Stage Only)
Rage Helios2 (MCC) Quick’ 3A (Deck Format Finals Only)
Roar Fafnir Tapered Bearing-7 (First Stage Only)

3. LJ-Blader
Dynamite Belial+F Over Bearing-0
Astral Spriggan Nexus+S(Solid) Atomic-6
Astral Spriggan Nexus+S(Solid) Quartto(Stamina)-6 (First Stage Only)
Rage Helios2 (MCC) Metal Xtreme 3A
Roar Bahamut Giga Drift-10 (First Stage Only)
Hollow Lucifer2 Wheel Xtend+(Stamina) 4A
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Rise-3 (First Stage Only)

4. DeceasedCrab
Dynamite Belial+F Over Drift-10
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Bearing-2
Astral Spriggan (Right) Nexus+S(Freespin) Quattro(Stamina)-0 (First Stage Only)
Dynamite Belial+F Tapered Bearing-10 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Vanish Fafnir Over Drift-2 (Deck Format Finals Only)

Gratz on your first tournament win shota! Looking forward to seeing that on a ranked one.
Fun notes: Ardmore is trolling us so hard with that Judgement Diabolos Shot. Getting that on the winning combos is hilarious. Also, Xceed’+Z is not a typo, which I guess makes him some sort of Cave Demon. He's a great blader but sometimes he does very concerning things which work extremely well and unsettle the heck out of me.
Not pictured: My very similar Rage combo that I used to destroy myself.

...Judgement Diabolos Shot? Am I reading that correctly?
Yes, was trolling
(Aug. 16, 2021  1:16 AM)tubitr Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2021  1:12 AM)BuilderROB Wrote: Why would it be? I don’t see how that’s an issue.

Lc2's usually pretty wobbly without 4A, 1S with it isn't bad but seems like an odd pairing unless the blader didn't have Solomon/Hy2 or 4A

it wasn't wobbly at all and  neither of us had a metal core for solomon so lc2 was heavier
The Spring Loaded SAVIOR!
Burst Standard Format
Austin, Texas
8/19/2021

1st Place - @K.O.kid
Vanish Fafnir Wheel Drift 3
Master Fafnir Wheel Zone'+Z
Perfect Pheonix Level Chip Giga Zone'+Z (Deck Format Finals Only)
Tempest Solomon MCC Xtend+ 2A (Deck Format Finals Only)


2nd Place - BurstCity_kid
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Zone'+Z
Tempest Solomon MCC Wheel Mobius 1S
Rage Helios MCC Drift 3A
Tempest Solomon MCC Xtend+ 2A
Master Fafnir Wheel Zone'+Z

3nd Place - Nola1000
World Dragon Wave 1A
Tempest Spriggan Drift 2A
Brave Valkyrie Evolution' 2D

As you can see, K.O.kid and BurstCity_kid have very similar combos. They were both being guided by their dad if that helps explain the similarities. Honestly, I wish there was more attack used, but that just wasn't the way it went. If ya'll catch any errors or have some questions, make sure to ask them.
(Aug. 17, 2021  12:09 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Aug. 17, 2021  5:13 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: Am I the only one that finds Roar outclassed? Putting on Giga rise it can't tie with Heaven on drift

I believe Roar has better defense than Vanish with the cost being a bit of stamina. I’ve also heard Vanish can scrape, which may also be another reason roar is used.

Makes sense, thanks for the clarification.
Can I ask if you find the defence of roar vastly improves after gimmick has happened? As I only have Roar Fafnir I generally avoid using dash drivers on roar in order to activate the gimmick.
Also I found that roar makes the burst resistance, like the teeth tighter.

(Aug. 17, 2021  9:28 AM)g2_ Wrote:
(Aug. 17, 2021  5:13 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: Am I the only one that finds Roar outclassed? Putting on Giga rise it can't tie with Heaven on drift

I'm sorry, what? Heaven?

Yes. Heaven on Goku is one of the foremost stamina layers in the meta

(Aug. 18, 2021  1:02 PM)bcpaws Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2021  1:16 AM)tubitr Wrote: Lc2's usually pretty wobbly without 4A, 1S with it isn't bad but seems like an odd pairing unless the blader didn't have Solomon/Hy2 or 4A

it wasn't wobbly at all and  neither of us had a metal core for solomon so lc2 was heavier

I think it's only a little wobbly, probably the difference between Solomon and Lc2 can be most clearly seen in this combo
World (Chip) Generate 1S/4A
Lc2 bounces around and doesn't catch the ridge on 1S well, but it's different for 4A. Remember to put the heavier side of 4A on the lighter side of Lc2.
(Aug. 21, 2021  3:09 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote:
(Aug. 17, 2021  12:09 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: I believe Roar has better defense than Vanish with the cost being a bit of stamina. I’ve also heard Vanish can scrape, which may also be another reason roar is used.

Makes sense, thanks for the clarification.
Can I ask if you find the defence of roar vastly improves after gimmick has happened? As I only have Roar Fafnir I generally avoid using dash drivers on roar in order to activate the gimmick.
Also I found that roar makes the burst resistance, like the teeth tighter.

(Aug. 17, 2021  9:28 AM)g2_ Wrote: I'm sorry, what? Heaven?

Yes. Heaven on Goku is one of the foremost stamina layers in the meta

Heaven on Goku is that good? Since it outclassed by tempest? And now dynamite f gear? I’m confused.
(Aug. 20, 2021  3:11 AM)USN Wrote: The Spring Loaded SAVIOR!
Burst Standard Format
Austin, Texas
8/19/2021

1st Place - @K.O.kid
Vanish Fafnir Wheel Drift 3
Master Fafnir Wheel Zone'+Z
Perfect Pheonix Level Chip Giga Zone'+Z     (Deck Format Finals Only)
Tempest Solomon MCC Xtend+ 2A     (Deck Format Finals Only)


2nd Place - BurstCity_kid
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Zone'+Z
Tempest Solomon MCC Wheel Mobius 1S
Rage Helios MCC Drift 3A
Tempest Solomon MCC Xtend+ 2A
Master Fafnir Wheel Zone'+Z

3nd Place - Nola1000
World Dragon Wave 1A
Tempest Spriggan Drift 2A
Brave Valkyrie Evolution' 2D

As you can see, K.O.kid and BurstCity_kid have very similar combos. They were both being guided by their dad if that helps explain the similarities. Honestly, I wish there was more attack used, but that just wasn't the way it went. If ya'll catch any errors or have some questions, make sure to ask them.

I like how most of the combos were still superking
(Aug. 20, 2021  3:11 AM)USN Wrote: The Spring Loaded SAVIOR!
Burst Standard Format
Austin, Texas
8/19/2021

1st Place - @K.O.kid
Vanish Fafnir Wheel Drift 3
Master Fafnir Wheel Zone'+Z
Perfect Pheonix Level Chip Giga Zone'+Z     (Deck Format Finals Only)
Tempest Solomon MCC Xtend+ 2A     (Deck Format Finals Only)


2nd Place - BurstCity_kid
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Zone'+Z
Tempest Solomon MCC Wheel Mobius 1S
Rage Helios MCC Drift 3A
Tempest Solomon MCC Xtend+ 2A
Master Fafnir Wheel Zone'+Z

3nd Place - Nola1000
World Dragon Wave 1A
Tempest Spriggan Drift 2A
Brave Valkyrie Evolution' 2D

As you can see, K.O.kid and BurstCity_kid have very similar combos. They were both being guided by their dad if that helps explain the similarities. Honestly, I wish there was more attack used, but that just wasn't the way it went. If ya'll catch any errors or have some questions, make sure to ask them.

these are some wacky combos lol
(Aug. 21, 2021  3:21 AM)GenesisBlader Wrote:
(Aug. 20, 2021  3:11 AM)USN Wrote: The Spring Loaded SAVIOR!
Burst Standard Format
Austin, Texas
8/19/2021

1st Place - @K.O.kid
Vanish Fafnir Wheel Drift 3
Master Fafnir Wheel Zone'+Z
Perfect Pheonix Level Chip Giga Zone'+Z     (Deck Format Finals Only)
Tempest Solomon MCC Xtend+ 2A     (Deck Format Finals Only)


2nd Place - BurstCity_kid
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Zone'+Z
Tempest Solomon MCC Wheel Mobius 1S
Rage Helios MCC Drift 3A
Tempest Solomon MCC Xtend+ 2A
Master Fafnir Wheel Zone'+Z

3nd Place - Nola1000
World Dragon Wave 1A
Tempest Spriggan Drift 2A
Brave Valkyrie Evolution' 2D

As you can see, K.O.kid and BurstCity_kid have very similar combos. They were both being guided by their dad if that helps explain the similarities. Honestly, I wish there was more attack used, but that just wasn't the way it went. If ya'll catch any errors or have some questions, make sure to ask them.

these are some wacky combos lol
especially 3rd place. if i could guess tempest spriggan on drift carried that team but i would probably never guess anything there.
(Aug. 21, 2021  3:21 AM)GenesisBlader Wrote:
(Aug. 20, 2021  3:11 AM)USN Wrote: The Spring Loaded SAVIOR!
Burst Standard Format
Austin, Texas
8/19/2021

1st Place - @K.O.kid
Vanish Fafnir Wheel Drift 3
Master Fafnir Wheel Zone'+Z
Perfect Pheonix Level Chip Giga Zone'+Z     (Deck Format Finals Only)
Tempest Solomon MCC Xtend+ 2A     (Deck Format Finals Only)


2nd Place - BurstCity_kid
Vanish Fafnir Tapered Zone'+Z
Tempest Solomon MCC Wheel Mobius 1S
Rage Helios MCC Drift 3A
Tempest Solomon MCC Xtend+ 2A
Master Fafnir Wheel Zone'+Z

3nd Place - Nola1000
World Dragon Wave 1A
Tempest Spriggan Drift 2A
Brave Valkyrie Evolution' 2D

As you can see, K.O.kid and BurstCity_kid have very similar combos. They were both being guided by their dad if that helps explain the similarities. Honestly, I wish there was more attack used, but that just wasn't the way it went. If ya'll catch any errors or have some questions, make sure to ask them.

these are some wacky combos lol
Maybe for 3rd, but all the other combos seem pretty ordinary.
(Aug. 21, 2021  3:26 AM)USN Wrote:
(Aug. 21, 2021  3:21 AM)GenesisBlader Wrote: these are some wacky combos lol
Maybe for 3rd, but all the other combos seem pretty ordinary.
not too much some of them i would probably only see on a winning combos list last year but aren’t too too out of the ordinary compared to third
(Aug. 17, 2021  9:28 AM)g2_ Wrote: I'm sorry, what? Heaven?

(Aug. 21, 2021  3:12 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: Heaven on Goku is that good? Since it outclassed by tempest? And now dynamite f gear? I’m confused.

It's got good (arguably the best) same spin stamina compared to other Drift combos:

https://youtu.be/R0F3UPQD87o


It's much worse defensively tho, even on Drift it has a bad matchup vs most Rage combos.
(Aug. 21, 2021  8:43 AM)tubitr Wrote:
(Aug. 17, 2021  9:28 AM)g2_ Wrote: I'm sorry, what? Heaven?

(Aug. 21, 2021  3:12 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: Heaven on Goku is that good? Since it outclassed by tempest? And now dynamite f gear? I’m confused.

It's got good (arguably the best) same spin stamina compared to other Drift combos:

https://youtu.be/R0F3UPQD87o


It's much worse defensively tho, even on Drift it has a bad matchup vs most Rage combos.

Even compared to dynamite F gear in low mode? I can get that thing to OS Xtend+ in same spin. I don’t think this video is exactly a good basis to base it’s same spin stamina off of. Instead, you need to put it up against other things in same spin like Xtend+ and see if it can OS those.