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Winning Combinations at WBO Organized Play Events

Jun. 02, 2017  9:49 PM
 
(Jun. 02, 2017  3:43 PM)1234beyblade Wrote: It's because of group chats, for me personally that's the reason, I usually just yell out my findings in the group chat or to Kei directly use it at a tourney or 2 to surprise people and then... It's not discussed ever again lol.

And yes I am aware it's unhealthy Brad said the same thing years ago.

That's a bit of an understatement no? I mean this practise that of not revealing that everyone seems to follow for no good reason is directly hurting the community knowledge. I mean yeah it's great for you. And you don't care because you're not the ones being left out and you're profiting from your secrecy through wins in tournaments. It's incredibly selfish. And it goes against the main tenet that this website was founded on: Share the knowledge.
Jun. 02, 2017  9:57 PM
 
Nah I'm just too lazy to post on WBO it's much easier to just say something in chat rather than make a whole thread or post about something.  I've had like a good 3 things I wanted to post about but it's irrelevant now cuz I was too lazy to do it earlier.

Not only that but I rarely spend time on WBO I prefer to play some competitive overwatch rather than take my free time to make a post which to me is like a chore now, when I did MFB tests back then no one really cared lol my hell tests went by everyone as if it was nothing, no one wanted to add to them nor discuss them and honestly that was the turning point for me where I just stopped posting my tests.

I was planning to do some testings of dF hopefully on day in 2018... I mean June I can get to posting some results.
Jun. 02, 2017  10:24 PM
 
To kinda piggyback off of what 1234 is saying, I don't think anyone that does mention a combo in a chat does so intentionally to keep it away from people. With chats, it's just easier to communicate ideas without the pressure of making sure that everything is near perfect. Plus with chats, you communicate ideas because you are more trusting with people there and their feedback, which usually comes sooner than in posts.
Jun. 02, 2017  11:11 PM
 
(Jun. 02, 2017  3:52 PM)Kai-V Wrote: I wish everyone would realise how private chats are not helping in so many ways...

Personally, on the subject of parts testing, I was rather baffled when people mentioned using Acid Anubis to me at Beyblade North 2017. That came out of absolutely nowhere to me, that that Dual Layer had any use and that people were really going to rely on it competitively. That is way not normal, especially as it was released a while ago.

I actually created the A2 combo the day of the Saturday event LOL.  The only mentioning of it was when pyrus10000s dad was driving us I was like "LOL pyrus watch imma use Acid Anubis and rek everyone" (sarcastically of course) though I didn't use it myself I forced matso to use it cuz he does anything and that kinda sparked the wave of people using A2 Andrew
Jun. 03, 2017  12:31 AM
 
(Jun. 02, 2017  3:43 PM)1234beyblade Wrote: It's because of group chats, for me personally that's the reason, I usually just yell out my findings in the group chat or to Kei directly use it at a tourney or 2 to surprise people and then... It's not discussed ever again lol.

And yes I am aware it's unhealthy Brad said the same thing years ago.

(Jun. 02, 2017  3:52 PM)Kai-V Wrote: I wish everyone would realise how private chats are not helping in so many ways...

Personally, on the subject of parts testing, I was rather baffled when people mentioned using Acid Anubis to me at Beyblade North 2017. That came out of absolutely nowhere to me, that that Dual Layer had any use and that people were really going to rely on it competitively. That is way not normal, especially as it was released a while ago.
Well, tbh it's real reason why Indian Community is so quite on WBO, there are many groups were bladers discuss about things like combos and other things and due to it many don't come here to discuss about it. I'm sure it's not only case with India, in last 6 months (and befpre) I seen many groups on differant platforms with lots of WBO members in it.

I'm not against making beyblade group but those are really affacting WBO quite a bit recently and I think we should do something about it.

(Jun. 02, 2017  6:04 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:
(Jun. 02, 2017  2:47 PM)1234beyblade Wrote: A2 is better because it can destabilize just like D2 could, so it easily counters Neptune and can beat Wyvern and Odin.  Those tests and drafts are outdated because they were probably done before D2 and D ban.

can it counter blaze ragnarok?

Again we are getting off-topic. Also try to not make posts back and forth like chat, it's against rules Smile.
Jun. 03, 2017  12:36 AM
 
(Jun. 02, 2017  3:41 PM)Kai-V Wrote:
(Jun. 02, 2017  2:15 PM)1234beyblade Wrote: people now a days usually keep results to themselves though (or it could be just me).

Why is that though? I can somewhat understand when there are big competitions like Beyblade North 2017 coming up, but throughout the rest of the year, nobody really benefits from the community being totally clueless about how new parts perform... In fact, we just risk losing a lot of players because they have less idea what to buy and, consequently, would stop buying anything because of this apparent globalized disinterest.

But throughout the year winning combinations are always posted for each event, so any 'results' that actually matter (my criteria for "actually matter" being that a particular combo or part placed in a Winning Combination posted here) are inevitably made public, so there isn't any real way to keep things to yourself for longer than is fair to protect your own new discoveries briefly before going into tournaments anyways. This is part of the reason we instituted the rules for posting winning combinations years ago; so that we could track the development of the metagame throughout each series and force any notable discoveries to be made public and not be lost to time.

That said, I understand that in general the level of formal testing has gone down over the years. I don't have a full explanation for this myself (although private chats are definitely a contributing factor), but for me personally it comes down to a couple simple things that have nothing to do with private chats:

1. The time investment required to make a formal testing thread is quite high, and I think we've perhaps fostered expectation in the community that has gone a bit too high. We want the results to be legitimate, but I don't think it's healthy that people like ThaKingTai feel everything needs to be totally "perfect" for their results to be valid.

2. As much as I enjoy putting together incredibly comprehensive threads like this one, over the past few years I've noticed myself caring more about my impressions of a part through a more fluid testing process than I do about testing certain match-ups extremely formally. And given my track record in tournaments lately, I'd say this approach is certainly valid. I think we should be fostering a community where it is encouraged more to post your impressions of parts and match-ups that you have tried. This lowers the barrier of entry and will inevitably bring more insight to the community.

Of course, we have to worry about impressions that are uninformed and not very valuable competitively speaking because of the diverse range of players who join our site, but that's an issue we'd have to spend more time thinking about because while we want valuable content to be posted, we also don't want to discourage people from posting their impressions, even new members who don't have a lot of experience with the game yet. The answer that jumps out to me is the Advanced/Veterans Forum so that more informed opinions could be congregated in one area for everybody's benefit, but we know how that ended up over time before.

My preference for posting impressions is also embodied in certain ways by all of the tournament reports I have been writing lately:

https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Toronto...C-GAMES-II
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Toronto...-GAMES-III
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Toronto...C-GAMES-IV
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Toronto...-JAILBREAK
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Toronto...ION-REBOOT
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Toronto...-the-Scene
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Toronto...T-LONGINUS

I've tried to encourage people to post their own tournament reports, but not many people seem to have made an effort yet despite me encouraging people to make them even if they are just a paragraph or two. I think mine are particularly long and in-depth, but what makes them so great to me is that there is no pressure to do things perfectly; you're just reporting what happened in an event based on what you can remember, which I find more valuable–in some ways–to the community and development of the metagame than a formal testing thread.

I've been a little frustrated lately that not many people–whether they've played in the event in my report or not–have taken the time to reply with their impressions or any questions; it's not hard to write a quick summary of how you did in an event or ask the participants "Was X combo or part used a lot in the event? How did it do?". I don't know if this has to do with the tournament forum being a little bit buried at the moment as a sub-forum (something you know we plan to fix in the future), but it does make me wonder what the solution really is if players don't even want to take the time to post their impressions or simple questions about things that happen in our events.

That being said, I do think what we did with the Beyblade Hobby Q&A forum recently is really good. There's little to no pressure involved with posting a thread there, and it's way easier to navigate than the old massive Ask a Question, Get an Answer thread.
Jun. 03, 2017  12:43 AM
 
The thing is that "impressions" are way too vague. Are you coming to a conclusion after just three battles trying that part out? And with and against what, exactly? If the impressions can be just more detailed so that they can be trusted, then I do think I have written before that they would be OK to post instead of full test results. So this is just repetition...
Jun. 03, 2017  12:51 AM
 
(Jun. 03, 2017  12:43 AM)Kai-V Wrote: The thing is that "impressions" are way too vague. Are you coming to a conclusion after just three battles trying that part out? And with and against what, exactly? If the impressions can be just more detailed so that they can be trusted, then I do think I have written before that they would be OK to post instead of full test results. So this is just repetition...

It changes depending on the match-up. Sometimes my impression is based on a few rounds, sometimes on dozens. I just don't feel the time investment to prepare an extremely formal thread is worth it anymore (with some exceptions obviously, mostly based on the amount of time I have or value I think something could bring to the community like the initial batch of Hasbro vs. TT testing I did with 1234beyblade and Bey Brad), and I don't think we should keep trying to force people into thinking that is the only way for their experience to be valid in community discussion.

If we all had an unlimited amount of time and could sit down to do 20 rounds of formal testing for each match-up, and then post the results in a very specific format in a thread, that would be wonderful, but it's not realistic. I feel more inclined to casually discuss things based on my impressions than I do to sit down and make formal threads; that's why private chats are popular. The barrier of entry is lower.

More details is always great, but I don't think short impressions should be discouraged either. I would just maybe discourage very short impressions being the basis for an entirely new thread.
Jun. 03, 2017  1:05 AM
 
(Jun. 03, 2017  12:36 AM)Kei Wrote:
(Jun. 02, 2017  3:41 PM)Kai-V Wrote: Why is that though? I can somewhat understand when there are big competitions like Beyblade North 2017 coming up, but throughout the rest of the year, nobody really benefits from the community being totally clueless about how new parts perform... In fact, we just risk losing a lot of players because they have less idea what to buy and, consequently, would stop buying anything because of this apparent globalized disinterest.

But throughout the year winning combinations are always posted for each event, so any 'results' that actually matter (my criteria for "actually matter" being that a particular combo or part placed in a Winning Combination posted here) are inevitably made public, so there isn't any real way to keep things to yourself for longer than is fair to protect your own new discoveries briefly before going into tournaments anyways. This is part of the reason we instituted the rules for posting winning combinations years ago; so that we could track the development of the metagame throughout each series and force any notable discoveries to be made public and not be lost to time.

That said, I understand that in general the level of formal testing has gone down over the years. I don't have a full explanation for this myself (although private chats are definitely a contributing factor), but for me personally it comes down to a couple simple things that have nothing to do with private chats:

Though, tbh they only revails new discoveries and combinations of top 3 members only and it doesn't always clear up what user found good about a part and if that combo is actually a new combo or just a troll one (aka A2_R) unless host mentions in his/her post or unless someone asks. There might be runner ups too with newly discovered combos but lost due to luck or something. + outside tournaments in case someone found new about part, esspecially about a overlooked one (aka Bakushin having great defence in LTD. It's known but example beyhehe :p) and if he/she/friget has 2 options, to post in group or on WBO and if they choose to post in group, it might get discussed for a while but unless someone decide to post on WBO, it will get lost in chats and forgotten with time if not as big of a deal and things like Bakuhsin as a staller might never known to people (which is the case :P. example lol).

BTW I'm not against chatting with 1 person outside WBO, as it might not affact WBO as much but i meant making groups a primary place to share things are affacting WBO much more. WBO has same purpose, sharing knowlage with fellow bladers around the Internet.

Edit, can we make Video testing as a option? and reduce minimum test limit to 10. It's quite more convince to make a 10 rounds test video then writing down doing 20 rounds of battle and writing down wins and loss. It will also help people undestand real performace of parts much better and understand results before commenting (avoiding confusion which happens by only seeing winning percentange. How Wyvang BD145RDF can win by 10/0 against Duo BD?)

it will acts as proof of parts and give us idea of condition of part and performace better
Jun. 03, 2017  1:09 AM
 
I don't really understand why testing has dropped off a cliff when you compare MFB and Zero G to Burst. Doesn't make sense to me. I don't think we set too high a standard tbh. While the supposed rule is 20 rounds no one gets berated if they give tests of like 10 rounds. And I don't think it takes that long to make a simple testing thread. As for the point winning combinations show the important things i'm not sure that's 100% true. They show that it won and it's good but seldom do you get an explanation of what they won against which fairly important information. Maybe there should be a specific place where people give their impression of parts and what they do well against.
Jun. 03, 2017  1:14 AM
 
(Jun. 03, 2017  1:09 AM)Ultra Wrote: I don't think we set too high a standard tbh. While the supposed rule is 20 rounds no one gets berated if they give tests of like 10 rounds. 

Exactly. My own test result topics for Burst contained only five rounds sometimes if it was a clear 5-0. 

(And I stopped posting them because I simply stopped buying anything from Burst since Lost Longinus, due to prefering to invest money in other things and my personal interest in Burst decreasing progressively. Cannon and a couple of other Members were helping for some time when I stopped anyway... I thought it would continue.)
Jun. 03, 2017  1:15 AM
 
(Jun. 03, 2017  1:09 AM)Ultra Wrote: I don't really understand why testing has dropped off a cliff when you compare MFB and Zero G to Burst. Doesn't make sense to me. I don't think we set too high a standard tbh. While the supposed rule is 20 rounds no one gets berated if they give tests of like 10 rounds. And I don't think it takes that long to make a simple testing thread. As for the point winning combinations show the important things i'm not sure that's 100% true. They show that it won and it's good but seldom do you get an explanation of what they won against which fairly important information. Maybe there should be a specific place where people give their impression of parts and what they do well against.

Hint:- THing that make W2 bad and X good, wears. beys breaks more easily.


Check edit of my last replu here. I think video testing could encorrage people bit more to test. Like I mean people like 1234BB makes many videos with beys winning 5 rounds winning the battles which takes around 10 or more rounds (esspecially #CapricornPower). So I'm thinking it would encorrage more people to test due to being easiler and less formal.

It will also increase amount of actual competetive videos on YT improving knowladge of beyblade community (as YT is very big platform_) and even advertising WBO if we ask them to provide links to here and help us to gain more members
Jun. 03, 2017  1:16 AM
 
(Jun. 03, 2017  12:51 AM)Kei Wrote:
(Jun. 03, 2017  12:43 AM)Kai-V Wrote: The thing is that "impressions" are way too vague. Are you coming to a conclusion after just three battles trying that part out? And with and against what, exactly? If the impressions can be just more detailed so that they can be trusted, then I do think I have written before that they would be OK to post instead of full test results. So this is just repetition...

It changes depending on the match-up. Sometimes my impression is based on a few rounds, sometimes on dozens. I just don't feel the time investment to prepare an extremely formal thread is worth it anymore (with some exceptions obviously, mostly based on the amount of time I have or value I think something could bring to the community like the initial batch of Hasbro vs. TT testing I did with 1234beyblade and Bey Brad), and I don't think we should keep trying to force people into thinking that is the only way for their experience to be valid in community discussion.

If we all had an unlimited amount of time and could sit down to do 20 rounds of formal testing for each match-up, and then post the results in a very specific format in a thread, that would be wonderful, but it's not realistic. I feel more inclined to casually discuss things based on my impressions than I do to sit down and make formal threads; that's why private chats are popular. The barrier of entry is lower.

More details is always great, but I don't think short impressions should be discouraged either. I would just maybe discourage very short impressions being the basis for an entirely new thread.

Well we need a certain amount of details, or proof of collection at least, otherwise we just run the risk of having a Kaneki appear at some point. And as many others are writing, no, that twenty rounds rule has not been followed or enforced at all in years. Anybody looking at any of the Burst testing topics would have seen this.
Jun. 03, 2017  1:56 AM
 
I don't have time to make it myself at the moment, but we should probably move this to a new discussion in Discuss worldbeyblade.org. I'll try to make it myself later when I reply if nobody else has, but if anybody else wants to reply about this in the mean time please feel free to go ahead and make it!
Jun. 03, 2017  9:36 PM
 
(May. 31, 2017  2:14 AM)Mage Wrote: ATOMIC!
Sry, just had to XD

This is the meta track. I absolutely love it.
Jun. 06, 2017  11:26 PM
 
My Way or The High Way
Mumbai, MH, India (6.5.2017)

STD
1st Place:- FIREFIRE CPB
MSF-H Balro Balro DF105RF
MSF-H Balro Balro DF105MF
Girago Dragoon 85WD
Wyvang Wyvang BD145RDF
Girago Dragoon BD145RDF

2nd Place:- HarryAlchemist
Flash Leone GB145RF
Flash Leone GB145MF
Kraken Reviser E230WD/MB
Girago Dragoon BD145RDF

3rd Place:- Ashton Pinto
MSF-H Zirago Zirago 85MF
MF-M Death Aquario BD145CS

LTD:-
1st Place:- Eurekaboy
Flame Cygnus 230MB
Screw Capricorn 90MF
Meteo L-Drago II BD

2nd Place:- Ashton Pinto
MF-H Earth Aquario 230CS
MF Bakushin Cancer 85MF

3rd Place:- FIREFIRE CPB
Scythe Esscorpio DF105MF
Screw Striker II CH120RF
Scythe Esscorpio D125RF
Scythe Esscorpio T125BSF
Scythe Esscorpio 85MF
Flame Cygnus 230MB
Jun. 09, 2017  12:38 AM
 
Beyblade Prime 2017
3 June 2017 - London, UK - BST Format

The Results

1st  - Manicben
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Polish Atomic
Drain Fafnir Polish Revolve
Drain Fafnir Spread Revolve
Lost Longinus Knuckle Atomic (Deck Finals Only)

2nd - @[Basedsamuraij]
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Spread Revolve
Lost Longinus 4Vortex Orbit


3rd  - @[Ultra]
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Yell Revolve
Odin Yell Revolve
Lost Longinus 2Glaive Orbit (Deck Finals Only)



Now doesn't this winning combo list look familiar?

No A2 in London, no one wanted to use it when Neptune or dF was a safer choice. Perhaps it was used once? Can't remember.
So yeah, all of the bladers who went to Beyblade North 2017 in Toronto, Canada that were actually present made it into top 2.
Sadly @[~Mana~] and @[ClaraM] weren't available for our BeyDays celebration.
We took what we learned in Toronto and applied it here. Due to the D/D2 ban, it worked out. London bladers quickly had the new metagame figured out even without our input.

Of course Neptune and Drain Fafnir to me have become the go to choices for combos at tournaments, having replaced Deathscyther and D2 for me. My trusty VKT combo is no longer viable competitively due to L2 and dF... I cri, but I must say goodbye.

Kudos to @[Mr LT], who advised me on the L2.K.At combo. It helped me beat Basedsamuraij's L2.K.O for obvious reasons. Maybe there's more to it eh?

I'll get a tournament report out sometime, so look out for that!

Join us next time and we'll crack open a cold one with the lads Grin
Jun. 09, 2017  4:07 AM
 
Lovely to see dF almost as commonly as Deathscyther lol. Literally all top 3 used it Andrew .
Jun. 09, 2017  5:22 AM
 
dF needs a good look over imo >.>

Not really fair to D2 imo... Unhappy


Then again im biased to D2 LOL
Jun. 09, 2017  8:08 AM
 
(Jun. 09, 2017  12:38 AM)Manicben Wrote:
Beyblade Prime 2017
3 June 2017 - London, UK - BST Format

The Results

1st  - Manicben
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Polish Atomic
Drain Fafnir Polish Revolve
Drain Fafnir Spread Revolve
Lost Longinus Knuckle Atomic (Deck Finals Only)

2nd - @[Basedsamuraij]
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Spread Revolve
Lost Longinus 4Vortex Orbit


3rd  - @[Ultra]
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Yell Revolve
Odin Yell Revolve
Lost Longinus 2Glaive Orbit (Deck Finals Only)



Now doesn't this winning combo list look familiar?

No A2 in London, no one wanted to use it when Neptune or dF was a safer choice. Perhaps it was used once? Can't remember.
So yeah, all of the bladers who went to Beyblade North 2017 in Toronto, Canada that were actually present made it into top 2.
Sadly @[~Mana~] and @[ClaraM] weren't available for our BeyDays celebration.
We took what we learned in Toronto and applied it here. Due to the D/D2 ban, it worked out. London bladers quickly had the new metagame figured out even without our input.

Of course Neptune and Drain Fafnir to me have become the go to choices for combos at tournaments, having replaced Deathscyther and D2 for me. My trusty VKT combo is no longer viable competitively due to L2 and dF... I cri, but I must say goodbye.

Kudos to @[Mr LT], who advised me on the L2.K.At combo. It helped me beat Basedsamuraij's L2.K.O for obvious reasons. Maybe there's more to it eh?

I'll get a tournament report out sometime, so look out for that!

Join us next time and we'll crack open a cold one with the lads Grin
A2 was used twice according to what I remember. I used OHR against it vs BasedSamuraiJ and then there was another match I think. Also I was at a disadvantage not having Atomic. Never using Yielding again.
Jun. 09, 2017  11:20 AM
 
Guys I think dF stands for Deathscyther Fanboys
Jun. 09, 2017  12:04 PM
 
(Jun. 09, 2017  12:38 AM)Manicben Wrote:
Beyblade Prime 2017
3 June 2017 - London, UK - BST Format

The Results

1st  - Manicben
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Polish Atomic
Drain Fafnir Polish Revolve
Drain Fafnir Spread Revolve
Lost Longinus Knuckle Atomic (Deck Finals Only)

2nd - @[Basedsamuraij]
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Spread Revolve
Lost Longinus 4Vortex Orbit


3rd  - @[Ultra]
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Yell Revolve
Odin Yell Revolve
Lost Longinus 2Glaive Orbit (Deck Finals Only)



Now doesn't this winning combo list look familiar?

No A2 in London, no one wanted to use it when Neptune or dF was a safer choice. Perhaps it was used once? Can't remember.
So yeah, all of the bladers who went to Beyblade North 2017 in Toronto, Canada that were actually present made it into top 2.
Sadly @[~Mana~] and @[ClaraM] weren't available for our BeyDays celebration.
We took what we learned in Toronto and applied it here. Due to the D/D2 ban, it worked out. London bladers quickly had the new metagame figured out even without our input.

Of course Neptune and Drain Fafnir to me have become the go to choices for combos at tournaments, having replaced Deathscyther and D2 for me. My trusty VKT combo is no longer viable competitively due to L2 and dF... I cri, but I must say goodbye.

Kudos to @[Mr LT], who advised me on the L2.K.At combo. It helped me beat Basedsamuraij's L2.K.O for obvious reasons. Maybe there's more to it eh?

I'll get a tournament report out sometime, so look out for that!

Join us next time and we'll crack open a cold one with the lads Grin

no blaze ragnarok. im suprised.
Jun. 09, 2017  12:11 PM
 
(Jun. 09, 2017  12:04 PM)The Rebel Blader Wrote:
(Jun. 09, 2017  12:38 AM)Manicben Wrote:
Beyblade Prime 2017
3 June 2017 - London, UK - BST Format

The Results

1st  - Manicben
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Polish Atomic
Drain Fafnir Polish Revolve
Drain Fafnir Spread Revolve
Lost Longinus Knuckle Atomic (Deck Finals Only)

2nd - @[Basedsamuraij]
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Spread Revolve
Lost Longinus 4Vortex Orbit


3rd  - @[Ultra]
Neptune Spread Revolve
Drain Fafnir Yell Revolve
Odin Yell Revolve
Lost Longinus 2Glaive Orbit (Deck Finals Only)



Now doesn't this winning combo list look familiar?

No A2 in London, no one wanted to use it when Neptune or dF was a safer choice. Perhaps it was used once? Can't remember.
So yeah, all of the bladers who went to Beyblade North 2017 in Toronto, Canada that were actually present made it into top 2.
Sadly @[~Mana~] and @[ClaraM] weren't available for our BeyDays celebration.
We took what we learned in Toronto and applied it here. Due to the D/D2 ban, it worked out. London bladers quickly had the new metagame figured out even without our input.

Of course Neptune and Drain Fafnir to me have become the go to choices for combos at tournaments, having replaced Deathscyther and D2 for me. My trusty VKT combo is no longer viable competitively due to L2 and dF... I cri, but I must say goodbye.

Kudos to @[Mr LT], who advised me on the L2.K.At combo. It helped me beat Basedsamuraij's L2.K.O for obvious reasons. Maybe there's more to it eh?

I'll get a tournament report out sometime, so look out for that!

Join us next time and we'll crack open a cold one with the lads Grin

no blaze ragnarok. im suprised.

Not really nearly all those combos make quick work of br
Jun. 09, 2017  12:41 PM
 
(Jun. 09, 2017  12:11 PM)mj9 Wrote:
(Jun. 09, 2017  12:04 PM)The Rebel Blader Wrote: no blaze ragnarok. im suprised.

Not really nearly all those combos make quick work of br

i can understand that neptune can beat bR but bR is supposed to counter dF and L2
Jun. 09, 2017  9:22 PM
 
(Jun. 09, 2017  12:41 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote:
(Jun. 09, 2017  12:11 PM)mj9 Wrote: Not really nearly all those combos make quick work of br

i can understand that neptune can beat bR but bR is supposed to counter dF and L2

I was there and Neptune is a great counter to DF. It performed well enough that no one thought to even use BR. As for countering L2 it was barely used in the tournament.
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