[Takara Tomy]  META Parts

(Feb. 07, 2020  7:02 PM)The Rex Wrote: Generate
Tier 2

If exactly like final survive so it’s good with beys that can do good attacks and spin steal like the judgment layer base or the lord layer base

Generate isn’t very good. It’s LAD is too low to make it viable in stamina or tornado staller customizations.
(Feb. 07, 2020  7:21 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Feb. 07, 2020  7:02 PM)The Rex Wrote: Generate
Tier 2

If exactly like final survive so it’s good with beys that can do good attacks and spin steal like the judgment layer base or the lord layer base

Generate isn’t very good. It’s LAD is too low to make it viable in stamina or tornado staller customizations.

Oh, ok
(Feb. 07, 2020  3:36 PM)LegendV3 Wrote: iv'e found zephyr' to be useful on prime apocalypse and the judgement layer base. it has good stamina on a flat launch and can outlast lord on bearing left and right.  (in my testing)

It would probably be decent on Zwei and Regalia Genesis. It sounds good. Ill try this out in my next tournament.
(Feb. 08, 2020  3:57 AM)YishYash Wrote:
(Feb. 07, 2020  3:36 PM)LegendV3 Wrote: iv'e found zephyr' to be useful on prime apocalypse and the judgement layer base. it has good stamina on a flat launch and can outlast lord on bearing left and right.  (in my testing)

It would probably be decent on Zwei and Regalia Genesis. It sounds good. Ill try this out in my next tournament.

I think zephyr’ has the greatest use on something like imperial. Imperial works really well on plastic attack dash drivers.
(Feb. 05, 2020  12:55 AM)Bongo TIme Wrote: i have an idea
Wizard Bahamut Sting/Around Rise/Revolve/Eternal/Bearing Gen

I feel that the lightweight of the layer might spin steal more, but it might just increase K.O risk instead.

I figured the free-spinning plates at the bottom of the drivers would limit movement around the stadium.

let me know what you guys think.

I think this isn't the right place to post this. Maybe it should be in the theory combos thread. For the combo, I feel like it would be too light as you said, but I feel like you could also do 00 wall for the combo if it were with bearing. I would not use revolve as it is already outclassed, eternal is also not good with sting/around, and I would use it on outer. You could use rise and bearing if you have 00 wall/turn, but it works with around. Still, I won't use Wizard either anyways.
(Feb. 07, 2020  3:36 PM)LegendV3 Wrote: iv'e found zephyr' to be useful on prime apocalypse and the judgement layer base. it has good stamina on a flat launch and can outlast lord on bearing left and right. (in my testing)

I find it hard to believe Zephyr' outlasts Bearing in opposite spin.
(Feb. 08, 2020  5:43 PM)Biggster Wrote:
(Feb. 07, 2020  3:36 PM)LegendV3 Wrote: iv'e found zephyr' to be useful on prime apocalypse and the judgement layer base. it has good stamina on a flat launch and can outlast lord on bearing left and right. (in my testing)

I find it hard to believe Zephyr' outlasts Bearing in opposite spin.

I think the rubber on the judgement layer base helps equalize same spin stamina
Any word on the Naked layer? I've yet to see any testing on this site for it. I reckon that Naked Diabolos Paradox Bearing/Atomic is pretty nutty as a defensive beyblade.
I hear Flare is pretty good as well. It can hit as hard as Judgement and has decently high stamina.
Naked is good, but it's prone to being knocked out. It's super light, to the point Diabolos doesn't improve it. Because of the current rules, Naked won't be competitive because even if it comes back in it's already eliminated. It feels almost exactly like Balkesh in how it handles and gains speed whenever hitting a right spinning bey, only larger. I've seen a majority of its success on both Xtend+ and Bearing, with the most common layer weight being Gen. Gen became used among our group because Naked has had more than a few surprise bursts when fighting against right spinning beys. I do like Naked though.

Flare isn't that good, it regularly suffers from bursting. It can attack when paired with something like Destroy' or Volcanic', but even then, if it doesn't score the KO quick it's risking its own well-being. It's definitely not the worst thing out there and it looks cool, but there are plenty of other options out there that easily surpass Flare.
(Feb. 10, 2020  11:43 AM)Mr. Palazzo Wrote: Naked is good, but it's prone to being knocked out. It's super light, to the point Diabolos doesn't improve it. Because of the current rules, Naked won't be competitive because even if it comes back in it's already eliminated. It feels almost exactly like Balkesh in how it handles and gains speed whenever hitting a right spinning bey, only larger. I've seen a majority of its success on both Xtend+ and Bearing, with the most common layer weight being Gen. Gen became used among our group because Naked has had more than a few surprise bursts when fighting against right spinning beys. I do like Naked though.

Flare isn't that good, it regularly suffers from bursting. It can attack when paired with something like Destroy' or Volcanic', but even then, if it doesn't score the KO quick it's risking its own well-being. It's definitely not the worst thing out there and it looks cool, but there are plenty of other options out there that easily surpass Flare.

Interesting that Naked bursts in opposite spin when its gimmick is supposed to increase burst resistance via Paradox.
is eternal good at all? competitively?
(Feb. 10, 2020  10:12 PM)Sowmi Wrote: is eternal good at all? competitively?

Well yes, but it's outclassed by dash drivers and bearing. I would say for it to be a tier 2 on stamina but it is sadly not enough burst-resistance wise. You can still use it tho as I use tham on aH cuz I don't have much GT parts lol
Forget what I said about Master Paradox. The Paradox disc doesn't even work with Master in the defensive mode. Looks like I have to find an Around disc sighhh


Edit: Wrote Naked instead of Master, sorry!
(Feb. 11, 2020  11:24 PM)ZeroYiggs Wrote: Forget what I said about Naked Paradox. The Paradox disc doesn't even work with Naked in the defensive mode. Looks like I have to find an Around disc sighhh

On the contrary, Naked and Paradox go hand in hand, but due to it being extremely light-weighted despite having Diabolos or Longinus Goku, it will still lose to both stamina and KO resistance. Paradox has a great KO attack potential but due to how it was constructed, only Naked can actually utilize it albeit poorly. I'd put Naked as a Tier 2 since it still has some fight but not enough to warrant it a seat among Tier 1 parts.
(Feb. 12, 2020  6:45 AM)Rouzuke Wrote:
(Feb. 11, 2020  11:24 PM)ZeroYiggs Wrote: Forget what I said about Naked Paradox. The Paradox disc doesn't even work with Naked in the defensive mode. Looks like I have to find an Around disc sighhh

On the contrary, Naked and Paradox go hand in hand, but due to it being extremely light-weighted despite having Diabolos or Longinus Goku, it will still lose to both stamina and KO resistance. Paradox has a great KO attack potential but due to how it was constructed, only Naked can actually utilize it albeit poorly. I'd put Naked as a Tier 2 since it still has some fight but not enough to warrant it a seat among Tier 1 parts.

I am dumb, I put Naked instead of Master, sorry!