[Product]  B-155 Starter Master Diabolos.Gn

I knew it. As soon as I saw the picture I knew you flipped the layer bade over.
Master Base, Diabolos chip, and Generate driver pictures:
[Image: M.png?1576239120]
[Image: Db.png?1576239120]
[Image: Gn.png?1576239120]
Description of Master Base:
Reverse the right turning mode of the Upper attack blade with metal concentrated on the outside, and change to the left turning mode of the stable Smash blade with metal concentrated on the inside.
Description of Diabolos 2 Chip:
Demon Dragon Diabolos.  Holds 5 locks
Description of Generate:
Deformation according to centrifugal force after launch: Harden Lock in the first half of the battle and perform a super-attack on the runaway in the game. At the end, the sharpened shaft end and the center of gravity increase the defense force.
Not sure what harden lock means for the driver.
(Dec. 14, 2019  12:51 AM)JoMario67 Wrote: Master Base, Diabolos chip, and Generate driver pictures:
[Image: M.png?1576239120]
[Image: Db.png?1576239120]
[Image: Gn.png?1576239120]
Description of Master Base:
Reverse the right turning mode of the Upper attack blade with metal concentrated on the outside, and change to the left turning mode of the stable Smash blade with metal concentrated on the inside.
Description of Diabolos 2 Chip:
Demon Dragon Diabolos.  Holds 5 locks
Description of Generate:
Deformation according to centrifugal force after launch: Harden Lock in the first half of the battle and perform a super-attack on the runaway in the game. At the end, the sharpened shaft end and the center of gravity increase the defense force.
Not sure what harden lock means for the driver.

Basically when the tabs are out due to centrifugal force, it locks the driver into attack mode.
(Dec. 14, 2019  1:58 AM)BeyCrafter Wrote:
(Dec. 14, 2019  12:51 AM)JoMario67 Wrote: Master Base, Diabolos chip, and Generate driver pictures:
[Image: M.png?1576239120]
[Image: Db.png?1576239120]
[Image: Gn.png?1576239120]
Description of Master Base:
Reverse the right turning mode of the Upper attack blade with metal concentrated on the outside, and change to the left turning mode of the stable Smash blade with metal concentrated on the inside.
Description of Diabolos 2 Chip:
Demon Dragon Diabolos.  Holds 5 locks
Description of Generate:
Deformation according to centrifugal force after launch: Harden Lock in the first half of the battle and perform a super-attack on the runaway in the game. At the end, the sharpened shaft end and the center of gravity increase the defense force.
Not sure what harden lock means for the driver.

Basically when the tabs are out due to centrifugal force, it locks the driver into attack mode.

Oh, thanks for explaining that. I thought it had a Power sort of gimmick, but what you said makes sense
(Dec. 14, 2019  2:02 AM)JoMario67 Wrote:
(Dec. 14, 2019  1:58 AM)BeyCrafter Wrote: Basically when the tabs are out due to centrifugal force, it locks the driver into attack mode.

Oh, thanks for explaining that. I thought it had a Power sort of gimmick, but what you said makes sense

I dunno, I was thinking that too. If "Harden Lock" is translated correctly, it could be a power-like gimmick, compressing the spring based on rotation speed.

It would certainly explain why the driver is so gosh darn big, at least.
I have a feeling that because the vemon diablos had the venom and erase, i think master diablos will have two bases and i think the other one might be called consume. Also like venom/erase diablos, i think the master frame is right spin, and the consume frame is left. (Also if you dont know, diablo's tip is mode changing. R.I.P. bullet driver and vangard frame.)
(Dec. 14, 2019  5:13 AM)Littleirish009 Wrote: I have a feeling that because the vemon diablos had the venom and erase, i think master diablos will have two bases and i think the other one might be called consume. Also like venom/erase diablos, i think the master frame is right spin, and the consume frame is left. (Also if you dont know, diablo's tip is mode changing. R.I.P. bullet driver and vangard frame.)

It definitely would have been revealed by now if there was a left spin base. There is not. Master is a dual spin layer base so it replaces left spin. The way the gimmick works is that you flip the later base for left spin.
(Dec. 14, 2019  5:13 AM)Littleirish009 Wrote: I have a feeling that because the vemon diablos had the venom and erase, i think master diablos will have two bases and i think the other one might be called consume. Also like venom/erase diablos, i think the master frame is right spin, and the consume frame is left. (Also if you dont know, diablo's tip is mode changing. R.I.P. bullet driver and vangard frame.)

There's only one Base, you flip the base to change the spin direction and Generate is Final Survive from L-Drago Destroy, where it has an attack tip in the first half of the battle and then turn into a stamina tip in the second half of the battle.
(Dec. 12, 2019  7:05 PM)Spider Sniper Wrote: They sadly took both of Diabolos' gimmicks, fused chip and weight, and bullet. Tho, I'm excited for Final Survive burst version
Exactly, it’s pretty much not an upgrade. They basically just experimented with rebuilding diabolos differently. It has dual spin like venom/erase and the whole “performance change with spin” is not really unique since erase and venom and most other dual spin beys were basically performance changes too. It also seems to have no new gimmicks like Imperial Dragon had ? Despite how underwhelming it is to me, I still think that the launcher and bey both look incredible ?.
(Dec. 14, 2019  4:04 PM)JoMario67 Wrote: [Image: bey_b155.jpg]

I just realized that this layer base has metal on the left spin side ? I have no clue how I did not see that earlier.
(Dec. 14, 2019  7:23 AM)Zeutron Wrote:
(Dec. 12, 2019  7:05 PM)Spider Sniper Wrote: They sadly took both of Diabolos' gimmicks, fused chip and weight, and bullet. Tho, I'm excited for Final Survive burst version
Exactly, it’s pretty much not an upgrade. They basically just experimented with rebuilding diabolos differently. It has dual spin like venom/erase and the whole “performance change with spin” is not really unique since erase and venom and most other dual spin beys were basically performance changes too. It also seems to have no new gimmicks like Imperial Dragon had ? Despite how underwhelming it is to me, I still think that the launcher and bey both look incredible ?.

Technically, the base flipping is a new gimmick
I like the Flipping the layer but I do agree with the others who says diabolos has lost what made it special like bullet although it sucks but was unique to it or the fused layer weight which also was unique . As for the colours I do myself prefer the previous one from venom . But the master is interesting with the flipping
(Dec. 14, 2019  5:28 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: I like the Flipping the layer but I do agree with the others who says diabolos has lost what made it special like bullet although it sucks but was unique to it or the fused layer weight which also was unique . As for the colours I do myself prefer the previous one from venom . But the master is interesting with the flipping
How does does this take away from diabolos being special? no other bey has flipped like this in the burst gen the layer weight chip fusion was something unique yes but does it really need to keep that if it gets metal on it’s base and it’s own unique base gimmick?
(Dec. 14, 2019  9:27 PM)Requim Wrote:
(Dec. 14, 2019  5:28 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: I like the Flipping the layer but I do agree with the others who says diabolos has lost what made it special like bullet although it sucks but was unique to it or the fused layer weight which also was unique . As for the colours I do myself prefer the previous one from venom . But the master is interesting with the flipping
How does does this take away from diabolos being special? no other bey has flipped like this in the burst gen the layer weight chip fusion was something unique yes but does it really need to keep that if it gets metal on it’s base and it’s own unique base gimmick?

Agreed. The bullet gimmick was cool but an upgrade to it wouldn’t have helped it. I’m glad they are recreating a performance tip from MFB, especially one with some potential.
(Dec. 14, 2019  9:27 PM)Requim Wrote:
(Dec. 14, 2019  5:28 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: I like the Flipping the layer but I do agree with the others who says diabolos has lost what made it special like bullet although it sucks but was unique to it or the fused layer weight which also was unique . As for the colours I do myself prefer the previous one from venom . But the master is interesting with the flipping
How does does this take away from diabolos being special? no other bey has flipped like this in the burst gen the layer weight chip fusion was something unique yes but does it really need to keep that if it gets metal on it’s base and it’s own unique base gimmick?

I guess you missed the part that I said the flipped is great huh and that I like the master base or the fact I didn't say the master base isn't unique at all . And like I said most people like the bullet driver cause it was something different in burst and the also like the fused weight cause it was the only ship that has it . Beside the base which i never stated wasnt unique which was pretty obvious it was so i didnt even need to say it at all ,which is why I target both bullet (which again I said wasn't good at all but people seems to like cause well it fun for them not their people who like to have Fun and not only being competitive about it all the time)and the Diabolos chip only. which is why I said I can see why others think the took out specialty which for a good amount was bullet and the fused weight
Who thinks there needs who thinks that they need to make GT xcalibur?

(Dec. 14, 2019  11:19 PM)Littleirish009 Wrote: Who thinks there needs who thinks that they need to make GT xcalibur?

wouldn't really be possible unless it's made like prime apocalypse
(Dec. 15, 2019  12:27 AM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote:
(Dec. 14, 2019  11:19 PM)Littleirish009 Wrote: Who thinks there needs who thinks that they need to make GT xcalibur?

wouldn't really be possible unless it's made like prime apocalypse
No it would be They’d just have to make the start of the sword the GT Chip and the Actual Point of the Sword Apart if the Base
I wonder if this Base will work well with the Paradox Disk in RBV18 since they both have flip-over-for-mode-change gimmick lol.

I now noticed there is metal on the underside of Master on left-spin mode, but I don't think it would amount to much unless there are a lot of metal rivets in the Base, and that the center piece that the Chip teeth stalks go through is also made of metal.

I have also seen that Final Survive thing for MFB, but based on the description of Generate on the Japanese text, it might simply be a reverse Ultimate Reboot without the wide rubber flat. Hopefully the "hole" it creates on Attack mode is as narrow and thin as Zephyr (or a bit thicker? idk) so one can actually have two ways to hard launch the bugger (like an improved Zephyr). Now if the Sharp tip for the Stamina mode is either metal or POM, I really will lose my marbles lol

It is kind of a bummer that Generate isn't a Dash counterpart like Ignition' was on its only release, but hopefully that would mean Master Diabolos won't be an easily Burstable eye-candy.
(Dec. 15, 2019  12:42 AM)Requim Wrote:
(Dec. 15, 2019  12:27 AM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote: wouldn't really be possible unless it's made like prime apocalypse
No it would be They’d just have to make the start of the sword the GT Chip and the Actual Point of the Sword Apart if the Base

Have you seen Prime Apocalypse? This is basically exactly what they did there. Heck, the centerpiece of Prime Apocalypse even resembles a GT chip.

Though I wouldn't mind seeing a red, blue, and gold Prime Apocalypse, Xcaliber would really be too similar a design.
I think that there’s metal on both sides of master...
It looks like The right spin side has painted metal on some areas

I could be mistaking it for plastic though...
I hope it is metal
The Right Spin Upper Mode has painted metal more towards the outside while the Left Spin Smash Mode has metal more towards the inside.

Refer to the white highlighted parts in this image:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELjLXzAU0AEgd8Z.jpg
Hey, can you folks stop flagging posts when bladers go on brief tangents about other beys? You didn't even report the right posts. You know who you are. Littleirish009 This is the wrong thread to speculate about other beys.
You know, I got that this is kind of off-topic-ish, but if we're talking about FConfused, then Tower attempted to do the same concept: attack mode at launch, then stamina in the second half of the battle. It didn't pull off well, but technically Tower beat Generate(?) to the punch