So, as of lately I have been noticing a lot of members here that have been being unnecessarily rude to other members and it has become extremely bothersome to me. It also got me thinking about how some Members absolutely refuse to elaborate on their posts.

While I myself am an adult and can handle some rude/smartmouth comments from 12 year olds without it ruining my day, the possibility of those members, some of which whom have not even been registered with the WBO for more than a year, are quite possibly painting a very bad image for the WBO. I have pointed this out once, but this is a children's spinning top forum. The target age of Beyblade is ages 8 to 14, this means that ideally, majority of the members who find this place are going to be between those ages. Obviously there are members who are older than that age group, I am just making a point.

When I was 12 years old, I joined Beyblade Spirit Forums, and absolutely loved the community and it will always be my favorite Beyblade site/forums due to the knowledge I gained and the people I connected with. I feel that if I was 12 years old and joined this community today, I would be very disappointed and would probably not want to continue to visit the forums due to the how rude some of the posts can be.

It seems like it happens almost everyday, there will be a new member who just joined and he/she may post in the wrong forum or suggest a custom that is not good, or may list the wrong part, or may not know what part another Member is talking about, there are many different examples similar to this, I could keep going, but I am sure you get the picture. Instead of helping the new members out and pointing out what is wrong with what they posted or explaining the proper forum to go to, I see things like:

"That does not belong here."
(This is fine, but since your going to post, why not list where it should be posted? It really does not take more than a minute to explain where the correct place to post something is or to post a link to it.)

"That custom/part/beyblade is bad."
(This one irritates me a lot because most of the time, it is not so much a bad custom, it is simpy outclassed, but no one seems to ever want to explain that. For example, if the most competitive custom I can make from my available parts is Twisted Aquario BD145 CS, does that make it a bad custom? The answer is no. It simply makes the custom outclassed to other customs, which in no way makes it bad. Please, clarify this instead of simply telling a new member that the custom that they use when battling against their friends is bad, because it is not. If it is something such as Poison Capricorn M145 MS, then explain why it does not perform well. The same thing goes for a specific part or Beyblade as a whole, but instead of just wasting a post, just take the time to explain it to the new member. This place is supposed to be about gaining more knowledge about Beyblade, not to make Members feel bad because they do not have access to top tier parts.)

Another example I really hate seeing is when a new member asks a question in the wrong topic, and another member will post:

"That belongs in the Ask a Question, Get an Answer Topic."
(While that may be the correct place for them to ask the question they are asking, you could have easily answered the question for them more than likely, but instead, you want to try to play the role of a Mini-Mod, which no one likes.)

Also, if someone makes a grammatical or spelling error in one of their posts, posting a post of your own that critiques their errors and nothing more is extremely unneeded and is pretty much borderline spam in my opinion since it does not contribute to the topic.

I guess mainly what I am trying to say here is, elaborate on your posts. If a new member is trying to find something, do not just say "use the search function." Do mention the search function, but take the 30 seconds to type out the answer to their question or copy the link for the proper topic they are looking for.

As for the rude, overly sarcastic, smart mouth comments that I have been seeing lately, they are just plain rude and there is really no place for those kinds of posts in my opinion. The sad part is, majority of those kinds of posts that I see are from Members who are usually not above age 16. I mean it really looks like you are trying to offend other Members with the comments and make them feel stupid. Trying to make yourself appear smarter typically results in you looking like a jerk. The only thing those types of post can lead to is Members getting their feelings hurt and not wanting to visit the WBO, which is obviously something we do not want.

I do have a habit with being a bit harsh with members that post in the wrong forum (mostly after they repeatedly do it) haha, but one thing I disagree about is the "That belongs in the _____ topic/forum" part, when you say this you're not mini-modding you are telling them where to post in the future, If you don't tell them they will just go off and post another thread in the wrong place. And one thing that you have to understand is that when someone repeatedly posts in the wrong forum or repeatedly makes useless threads it kinda pisses of alot of members :\

Another reason some members are harsh is because of this reason

It also really gets on my nerves when I see a new post in an interesting thread, go check, and see the post is a piece of carp.

So yea thats my 2 cents

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I definitely concur with you on this my friend. Thanks a lot for helping me out when I first joined this forum btw, it honestly was probably the main reason I stayed; Because I had made a friend that was willing to assist me without trying to prove their own knowledge above my own. I am still a noob on this site based on how long I've been here, but I believe it is thanks to you that I have grown to enjoy the beyblade community again, thank you kai.
EDIT: also Yuko, I believe he meant that if they asked a question in the wrong thread, that you should direct them to the appropriate thread, but also take the time to answer their question as well.

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Another example I really hate seeing is when a new member asks a question in the wrong topic, and another member will post:

"That belongs in the Ask a Question, Get an Answer Topic."
(While that may be the correct place for them to ask the question they are asking, you could have easily answered the question for them more than likely, but instead, you want to try to play the role of a Mini-Mod, which no one likes.)

I disagree; at times I do respond to their question despite it being in the wrong thread, but the problem with answering their questions on the spot and then re-directing them is that it could possibly cause a discussion if the user continues to ask any succeeding questions. Now, if you just re-direct them to the correct thread, he/she can ask all the question he needs into that specific thread and not derail it, as opposed to a Beyblade-related question being asked in the 'Questions about the WBO' thread for example.

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@ Yuko Ray14 - One of the main points I wanted to get across in the OP was more friendly ways of going about correcting new members. Telling someone where to post is perfectly fine obviously, I just feel that in a lot of cases, the way a member says it can really be toned up a bit to sound a bit more guiding and understanding.

For example, if a new member posts in the Ask a Question topic a question about Plastic Beyblades, everyone's first instinct is to direct them to the All things Plastic thread. This is the right thing to do, but the way it is done typically can easily be done differently in a more friendly way to avoid coming off as rude or harsh.

Say the question is "What is the better Beyblade, Driger S or Dranzer F?"

Instead of saying, "Go to the All things Plastic topic" you could say "There is another topic that is for the discussion of the Plastic Generation Beyblades, try posting those types of questions in there."
While it is more words, it sends a better vibe and doesn't make the new member feel like they are lost.
Posting a link to the topic helps them navigate better as well in most cases.

I mean I recall once upon a time I came across a topic that a new member had created asking a question I believe and another member was very rude to the new member by saying that there was already another topic for those types of questions. The new member then politely asked for a link to the topic, and the member responded by saying to use the search function.

As far as members constantly posting in the wrong forum/topic, that is when the mods are supposed to step in and deal with that problem. I mean I will admit that I have had to explain to members that repeatedly posted in the wrong topic/forum, it happens sometimes, I just feel it is not something to really lose your cool over and that can be dealt with a little better. I mean it can be irritating, but it is not like it is hurting anyone other than themselves. If they continue to do it, they will be the ones to get punished.

I mean as the more experienced members and veterans here, as well as the members that are older, it should be second nature to treat other members in a polite way and do the best we can to make sure they understand the rules without going overboard.

As far as the new post in interesting threads thing, I have witnessed this as well, but there is very little that can be done about it I believe. I mean, i see that sort of thing happen a lot in the Public Competitive Customs thread, and usually it seems that if it is pointed out to the member that the topic is for the discussion of top tier customs with enough tests and evidence of it being a potential top tier then they usually will refrain from posting nonsense in it again. Again, it kind of falls back on the mods if it continues to happen regularly though.

@ Switchblad3r - I really am glad I could help. And yes, you got it right about the min modding thing as far as answering the question. I understand sometimes some members cant answer questions that are asked, and if that is the case you can say something along the lines of, "I am not able to answer the question, but if you post that question in this topic, I am sure someone will be able to answer it for you."
You know, just something polite and that doesn't make them feel terrible for posting in the wrong place.

I disagree; at times I do respond to their question despite it being in the wrong thread, but the problem with answering their questions on the spot and then re-directing them is that it could possibly cause a discussion if the user continues to ask any succeeding questions. Now, if you just re-direct them to the correct thread, he/she can ask all the question he needs into that specific thread and not derail it, as opposed to a Beyblade-related question being asked in the 'Questions about the WBO' thread for example.

I have seen that happen a few times. In cases like that if it happens with me, if they ask another question in the same topic or want to keep discussing it, I try to take it to PM and then sort out the discussion if there is one. My inbox is filled with conversations with various members where that has happened, so I do see your point.

I especially agree about the "That combo is bad" part. I am not saying I am not guilty of ever doing it, but it annoys me when I see it.

I'm thinking I might as well start reporting posts that say "This doesn't belong here" and other stuff like that, that don't elaborate on it with a redirected link or something at least.

Also some posts that get on my nerves are ones that say "That'll get you warned". They might make that member they are telling that to think the WBO is a very strict site and may not post that much due to the thought that they may be warned/banned.

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In ryukiba's case here, can you just leave the moderating to people who actually know if its relevant or not? I've noticed you tend to say "I think it will get closed" or some sort of similar remark .. Apologies for picking you out, but this actually involves everyone do they don't do it.

Some combos people make are plain bad. Simple. It was never tier or had any use whatsoever so I believe people think that other than saying it's outclassed by basically everything - but elaborating is the key.

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I feel I do this sometimes as well, especially when someone begins to argue that their combo is not bad which is when I can get a little ticked.

I do agree with you though, as I remember that I was constantly intimidated by a few people on the forum when I first joined. I stuck around, but that may not be the case for other new members.

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I'm with you on this one. I, myself, had a bit of a hard time when I first started here (as a few people might know). I do admit that I could get a bit hot-headed and go overboard over some of the comments, so half of it was my fault. Even was banned for it, and got my beyshop thread closed. But I promised to keep it calm and change my ways, and I was given the rare generosity of being welcomed back into WBO. And since then, I have maintained my temper and made sure to post the right things and ask the right questions in their proper places. But I had the most trouble with the fellow members. They always replied to me like, I guess the nice way to say it would be "Mini-Mods", and rudely critiqued me on almost everything. (I do also admit that on some stuff they were reasonably right, but I still wished they would've addressed me better to the problems.) And then, I had somewhat of a "fueding" relationship with Hazel. I never really liked how rude and strict he was about everything. (Including stuff I didn't even notice I was doing that was supposedly against the rules, such as my necromancing warning.) Even still, I had to face facts that trying to badmouth him was not an expert plan to show he wasn't meant to be an admin. So I apologized, and moved on. Finally, the thing that bugged me was how people replied to combos I'd post. As you said, they're just outclassed compared to the more useful beys, but they can still be used against competing beys of their rank. I posted many combos, and tested them, and they did very well, but they still crunched down on me that the combo was bad, and is useless to the current metagame whatsoever, when really (depending on the combo) it can still be useful. And, on a side note to this, not everybody can afford to get top teir parts, so they're stuck with having to make the best out of outclassed parts.

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I am not saying names but sometimes when I suggest something, one user just dismisses the idea like it is meaningless (most of the time) mainly with combos this happens. Kai hiwatari this is an issue.

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Sorry, but sometimes the combos yoh suggest aren't the prettiest man. And on the BB-10 Competitive Combos thread, people (including you) are ignoring Ingulit's post. A Mod nonetheless.

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Also, if someone makes a grammatical or spelling error in one of their posts, posting a post of your own that critiques their errors and nothing more is extremely unneeded and is pretty much borderline spam in my opinion since it does not contribute to the topic.

I guess mainly what I am trying to say here is, elaborate on your posts. If a new member is trying to find something, do not just say "use the search function." Do mention the search function, but take the 30 seconds to type out the answer to their question or copy the link for the proper topic they are looking for.

I completely agree on this. Could it be because people see that people criticize stories, they think they should do that with all posts?

I mean, I always run through a banned member's last posts to see what was going on that got them kicked off the site, and it's usually a disagreement, lies, or just plain arguing where they just try to irritate each other.

The whole "Think before you post" thing should really be put into action here. Sure, all the members who have been on these forums for more than a year should understand how the posting thing works/ treat others with respect, but sometimes, it just disappears...

I always get extremely irritated when new members go around mini-modding. Saying "This is against the rules," or "This thread doesn't have a purpose; it will get closed" doesn't help the matter. Instead, I think we should give the "Report" button more time to shine; I saw the thread that was written about it, but I do not think much of the community paid attention.

But, if we can't do much about it, then we'll have to just let it go. But I do see a big difference with the behavior. When I joined about 2 years ago, it seems that everything was a bit more pleasant; it seemed like people listened to each other a bit more. But now, it feels like the forums are being bombarded with new bladers who "Think they have the best combo" and think that everyone who says different is wrong. Some of the new members are very open to suggestions, while a majority seem to be a bit more self centered.

While I do say that there seems to be "more rudeness" on the forums, I can't say that I wasn't ever rude here. I might not remember it, but someone else might. Or maybe I don't see it as rude, but maybe you do. This brings me to another point; sarcasm doesn't translate online without you saying something like " *Sarcastic tone* " or something. Me and Tri were PMing the other day saying how the words "Haha" could be read in a sarcastic tone, a regular laughing tone, or a mad tone. So, what I'm trying to get at is that rudeness could be perceived differently from different perspectives. The poster might not see their post as rude, but you might. When you tell them they're being rude, they get angry at you, unless they see that they were rude and apologize.

Sometimes I feel people argue with moderators to see how far they can push them, or how mad they can get. It's just like bullying in real life. But I keep seeing more and more new members disrespecting the moderators. *sigh*

Anyhow, I love how this "issue" is getting a bit of light. It's nice to see other people trying to make a difference in our community.

P.S. If you ever see someone being rude, try to give them a PM! Saying that they're being rude in the "public" puts them on the defense than if you told them privately.

Trying to make yourself appear smarter typically results in you looking like a jerk. The only thing those types of post can lead to is Members getting their feelings hurt and not wanting to visit the WBO, which is obviously something we do not want.

I hope my criticising of stories on here isn't rude...

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I agree with this. Also, from what I've seen personally, most of the kids ages 8-14 are typically more aggressive not just online, but in real life, mainly because that's usually the stage of mood and behavioral changes (puberty, basically), which, on some occasions, means they're more likely to get angry at simple things, such as somebody proving them wrong. However, I definitely have seen posts with most of the younger members criticizing somebody for either voicing an opinion or correcting something as small as a grammar mistake. That kind of carp gets on my nerves, but from what I've been seeing on here (which isn't a lot, lol), there has been pretty much a steadiness of it, and not a lot of increase. Also, from what I've seen (once again, isn't a lot), it's been sticking to the same members.

For example, as mentioned, combo suggestions in "Build Me a Combo!" are where most of the criticism is at, but that's mainly because you do have people putting the combos based on their own opinions of what has worked for them. It needs to be specified that the combo will work for everybody. However, although the person posting the bad combo is at fault for putting up a combo that doesn't work with everybody, the critic shouldn't be so hard on them. Maybe that was their first time posting a suggestion, or maybe they didn't know it needed backup information. Most of the criticism is because the critics jump to conclusions thinking, "that guy is wrong, and I'm right, so I correct him the way I know it is right", and it just becomes an opinionated criticism. And, as Ultramarine said, the conflict continues where the combo suggester says "this combo is not bad" and it just elevates the criticism. It ticks me off, too, but there's no easy way to allow a normal member to post and get answers from advanced, knowledgeable members without having younger or more inexperienced members chime in at some point.

As you said, Kai, those are the most commonly seen ones, and I think that can definitely help out the younger members and teach the critics a lesson, but there's a flaw in that idea; We've tried to enforce that before, and children don't like to listen. You have to instill it in their head, or punish them for continuing the trouble-making acts. A few members I've seen on here are super defiant, and will not listen to any member, even an authority figure like an administrator. If they can't learn to stop, crack down and start putting warnings and day-long bans on them, and if they still don't want to follow rules, perma-ban them. If they don't want to treat the WBO members and committee with respect, then they don't have the right to stay and post if all they're gonna do is insult members, regardless if it's a logical argument or not.

To sum it up, I think that we shouldn't make a big deal of this unless it spreads throughout the WBO forums. Right now, it's condensed within BMOC, AAQGAA, and some of the Your Creations topics. If it starts spreading further into other threads more often and more severely, that's when action should take place. That's just my opinion.

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Honestly it may just be because it gets on people's nerves about some member (usually young) who excessively do something wrong. Older poster REALLY get mad about this and than a conflict begins. If everyone was nicer and avoided starting conflict much of this could be absolved. This is a website, but people need to act like it's real life. How would they feel if they were scolding a younger kid for a common mistake. Members need to act like they are the person there scolding. We need to admonish kids not harass them. Just be cool and never lose your cool. That is the moral that can be made from this.

Always remember that Beyblade was made for kids so. You will see many kids on the site. Obviously more than adults. I myself have lost my cool on the site, but I have learned. It is never too late to become nicer. When someone gets warned it's because they did something wrong and the mods recognized that. After that point people don't need to call them names or make fun of them. I know someone who was acting his age (7). He got accepted to a team and than got fired for "embarrassing" his team. Later people on that team made fun of him and called him a brat. Those are terrible manners. The member was acting his age. If no one wanted someone to do what they do normally than why hire him in the first place?

The bottom line is that people need to get along. Even if someone annoys you control your self. If people have control than we can make a website. If someone annoys you go bang you head on the wall or whatever, just don't post. Report the post. The buttons there for a reason. For member to use it. If its in a PM than forward the PM to a mod. The person will be dealt with and you don't have to worry about it. Just tell someone. Act like this is real life.

Tri - That would probably be the best thing to do as far as reporting the posts, because all a post like that will lead to more than likely is the member asking where to post it and continue to post in the wrong topic until they find the proper place.

@Ultramarine - Exactly, I mean I know everyone for the most part has at some point done something like the things described as far as getting frustrated with a member. I just think it is something that can easily be tweaked to give a better overall image to the Beyblade Community. While this is a little different, after Beyblade Spirit, the next big forum I was apart of was Duelist HQ, a Yu-Gi-Oh Forum, and the same things happened there often. Younger member would some in and get bullied by some of the other members for not listing the top tier deck, and many other silly things. It happens everywhere.

beycrafter01 - Your comments about the customization feedback you received is a good example of members not elaborating on their posts. Customization have become an extremely complex and long winded series of discussions. When I first got into Beyblading, I do not recall having to post test results or nearly any of the things required to do now, but it truly does filter out a lot of the customs that are not worth trying. I am not saying the customs you posted are useless by any means as I have seen similar situations like yours happen. A newer member will post their custom, back it with tests and explain it, but then will get chewed out by another member and they will say things like "that the custom should not get results like that" or "That part is outclassed, why use it?" Usually the matter will get sorted out and other members will all join in to test and the issue will be solved, but usually in the time before the other tests are done to back up the original tests of the custom, there can be a lot of negative comments. This all comes back to how some members are constantly trying to show that they have more knowledge than others to try to show that they are better than others. (I do not want members here to think I am targeting people who are extremely knowledgeable about Beyblade. I personally believe that th!nk is one of the most knowledgeable members on the WBO and probably in the world when it comes to Beyblade. The difference is, he elaborates on his posts and thoroughly explains every possible fact when he posts something.)

@AZL - Like a lot of members here, you have come a pretty good ways since you first joined here. You have learned a great deal, but still need to learn more, as most people do since Beyblade is constantly changing and there is always something new to learn it seems. However, one thing I believe you do not do enough is elaborate on your posts. I have seen in the Build me a Custom thread, sometimes a member will suggest a custom based off a member who requested a custom's parts, and you might say something like "that is outclassed" and nothing else. If the custom that was suggested to them is outclassed by other potential customs, explain to the member why they should not use the suggested custom and suggest a different one from their parts. Simply elaborating can make a huge difference. As far as customs that you suggest, yours are sort of like a mixed bag at times. Sometimes you can suggest the right customs, taken straight from the Tier list, which is what we want, but other times not so much, which is okay, cause you are still learning. No one should expect anyone to join the WBO and be an expert when it comes to customs. Maybe the member who is disregarding your customs will PM you and discuss it with you as to why your custom gets disregarded.

TakasuMouce - When I first started typing the whole OP, I ended up mixing a lot of things in it, but "Think before you post" is one of the main things to take away from this whole discussion. It also comes back to the golden rule of "treat others the way you want to be treated." Definitely agree with you on the report button. I believe Cannon just brought back a thread that everyone should read that highlights how helpful the report button is to Moderators.

http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-A-guide-...ting-Posts

PM'ing a member and talking with them to point things out is definitely the best way to do it. I have done it a few times and received great results from doing it. Also, I have pointed out things that are being done wrong by members before, and they PM'd me and would let me know that they wish I would have just PM'd them about it instead of making it public. Honestly, I felt bad about the fact it made them upset, and since then, whenever I see someone doing something wrong or being rude, I try to take it to PM. Works a lot better.
Very good points TakasuMouce.

And no the criticizing you mentioned was not rude.

DefStamina88 - It is very hard to do something about those types of problems, definitely agree with you on that. You pretty much hit the nail on the head with the customs, I think members just really need to take in the fact that this is probably an 11 year old kid, who just started blading a few weeks ago, and built this custom based off the show or something. Not trying to rag on the kid, but look at Zankye's videos. We all know he has a lot of followers, a lot of kids probably see his videos, see the rigged battles and see how he constantly talks about how Galaxy Pegasus is the best. On top of that as well as being a kid that wants to believe that one of the Beyblade's from the anime is the best, is probably going to lead to some bad customs that are posted which are not good. I just think members should try to keep those things in mind when responding to posts like the ones just mentioned.

exactly! my D:D but it can be useful in many scenarios, especially in the zero g stadium, plus, "I like my beyblades to tell a story, not have might!", that is a bey philosophy from an 11 year old (that is me!).

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exactly! my D but it can be useful in many scenarios, especially in the zero g stadium, plus, "I like my beyblades to tell a story, not have might!", that is a bey philosophy from an 11 year old (that is me!).

As beycrafter01 mentioned, some parts/customs work for others while some not so much.
From what I have gathered, D : D has never been mentioned as a great part, but in your case you have found a use for it.

exactly! my D but it can be useful in many scenarios, especially in the zero g stadium, plus, "I like my beyblades to tell a story, not have might!", that is a bey philosophy from an 11 year old (that is me!).

Sure, your "philosophy" is quite interesting, but sometimes some things don't require a thread, which is why they were closed.

This is another point to bring up- whenever a new[ish] member creates a thread, and it get's closed, it immediately drives them into anger. Why? Because their first thread, which they thought was very interesting/ good for the forum, got closed.

So, here's what I'd like to suggest. Maybe give a bit more reasoning before closing a thread opened by a new member? Try to reason with the person? Because then they start to accept and realise that the thread was not needed. But if the moderator just rushes in and says "This belongs in the Random Thoughts Thread" the new member might see that as a threat/ doesn't understand the complete reason behind it. Inglit, for example, does it in a manner that I like.

Eh, again, this belongs in Random Thoughts... It doesn't really fit in Your Creations that well

He does it with a more "calm" approach, addin in that emoji to give it a more light-hearted feel. I think that this is easier on the new member.

I'm not trying to say that the moderators aren't doing their job right, but I just wanted to suggest something. Hope I wasn't offensive.

The theory I have is that the moderator either needs to scare the member into following the rules, or ease them into the rules. Just like if you had a nice teacher, if they ask you to stop texting or eating in class, you're more likely to listen because you have more respect. On the other hand, if you had a mean teacher, you might want to get back at them/talk back. Or, the teacher could be so mean that you get scared of him/her and stay away from them. I think this is what is going on with the forum.

Warm welcome/reason= Good
Straightforward/Mean= Bad

The moderators here aren't mean or strict in my eyes, but to a new member still wetting their feet in the forum, they can seem mean. It's like if someone was starting to learn to swim, they wet their feet. But if the swim coach pulls them underwater and forces them to learn that way, they get scared of swimming, just like if the moderator is being too harsh.

This only applies to new members , though. If they have been on the forum for quite a while, any rule violation should be met with straightforward answers/ thread locks.

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I have always been a fan of how Inguilt responds to issues like that, even before he was a Mod. Even when he became a Mod, it did not change his approach to problems. Like you said, he sort of eases into the problem and explains in a polite manner what and why it is wrong.

DefStamina88 - It is very hard to do something about those types of problems, definitely agree with you on that. You pretty much hit the nail on the head with the customs, I think members just really need to take in the fact that this is probably an 11 year old kid, who just started blading a few weeks ago, and built this custom based off the show or something. Not trying to rag on the kid, but look at Zankye's videos. We all know he has a lot of followers, a lot of kids probably see his videos, see the rigged battles and see how he constantly talks about how Galaxy Pegasus is the best. On top of that as well as being a kid that wants to believe that one of the Beyblade's from the anime is the best, is probably going to lead to some bad customs that are posted which are not good. I just think members should try to keep those things in mind when responding to posts like the ones just mentioned.

That's my point. The kid is probably very inexperienced, and is at a younger age where he probably doesn't know the difference between something that he thinks is good and what is actually good, but there's no reason to hound on him when he clearly doesn't have the knowledge about that. Talking about Zankye, he most likely does that to make the younger kids feel good about having a bey that someone from the anime had, mainly because your newcomers are taught by looking at the anime that the main character is always victorious overall. That's not the case. I mean, yeah, during metal Fusion you had Earth Eagle that kicked butt for a while, but it eventually gets beat by a customized beyblade that has been tested and recorded against others and have won over 80% of the time. Problem, as I stated earlier, is that the kid is very inexperienced, and only goes with looks good to him, or what he learned from the anime, and just because he makes a post saying his ideas which might be blatantly wrong, most of these critics are enhancing the wrongness and making the kid feel stupid with posts like "that's a stupid combo" and "that's wrong" and I even saw one that said, "Are you failing school? That was the dumbest suggestion ever. Be ashamed." That just drives the kid's confidence down and makes him less likely to play, which overall hurts the popularity of BeyBlade on the WBO.

We just need to get these children to read the facts and know ahead of time what is good and what is not so that they don't make that mistake in the first place...

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DefStamina88 - It is very hard to do something about those types of problems, definitely agree with you on that. You pretty much hit the nail on the head with the customs, I think members just really need to take in the fact that this is probably an 11 year old kid, who just started blading a few weeks ago, and built this custom based off the show or something. Not trying to rag on the kid, but look at Zankye's videos. We all know he has a lot of followers, a lot of kids probably see his videos, see the rigged battles and see how he constantly talks about how Galaxy Pegasus is the best. On top of that as well as being a kid that wants to believe that one of the Beyblade's from the anime is the best, is probably going to lead to some bad customs that are posted which are not good. I just think members should try to keep those things in mind when responding to posts like the ones just mentioned.

That's my point. The kid is probably very inexperienced, and is at a younger age where he probably doesn't know the difference between something that he thinks is good and what is actually good, but there's no reason to hound on him when he clearly doesn't have the knowledge about that. Talking about Zankye, he most likely does that to make the younger kids feel good about having a bey that someone from the anime had, mainly because your newcomers are taught by looking at the anime that the main character is always victorious overall. That's not the case. I mean, yeah, during metal Fusion you had Earth Eagle that kicked butt for a while, but it eventually gets beat by a customized beyblade that has been tested and recorded against others and have won over 80% of the time. Problem, as I stated earlier, is that the kid is very inexperienced, and only goes with looks good to him, or what he learned from the anime, and just because he makes a post saying his ideas which might be blatantly wrong, most of these critics are enhancing the wrongness and making the kid feel stupid with posts like "that's a stupid combo" and "that's wrong" and I even saw one that said, "Are you failing school? That was the dumbest suggestion ever. Be ashamed." That just drives the kid's confidence down and makes him less likely to play, which overall hurts the popularity of BeyBlade on the WBO.

We just need to get these children to read the facts and know ahead of time what is good and what is not so that they don't make that mistake in the first place...

Thats something else I want to mention; Why do we play with Beyblades? Because they're fun. If someone says that a combo is good, then they think it's good and like to play with it. It's fun to use their own custom bey.

When people say that they're combo is "useless," it "sucks," or it will "never help them win any battle," it destroys any fun they had playing.

When I was a new member on the forum, I thought "My Ray Unicorno 145 WD is the best!" But when I began reading other posts and asking how I should improve my combos, I began to get better. This shows how much the community has changed. Back then, everyone was nice and tolerant to new bladers. Now, no so much.

I don't care when a kid has a "horrible bey." People should take it into account that new bladers just look at the game as a game; not a "highly competitive sport where if it doesn't qualify then it sucks yadayadayada." If you want to help them improve, you could say something like :
"Hey! Nice combo. But I think I could help you improve and become stronger as a blader. Could you list your beys for me so I can help?"

Instead of
"what are you 4.everyone knos flash suks. go Get real beys and we'll make it better"

Also- When you help someone, try to type in actual words . This is no text conversation. This isn't an essay forum either. Basically, don't go overboard (like me) when it comes to posting, but don't type like you never heard of spelling. One/two words spelled wrong is okay, but if people can't understand what you said, then it isn't helping.


But what I'm really getting at is that Beyblades are toys you play with. They are supposed to be fun. Don't make them no longer fun. Then that hinders both our community and the reason behind blading.

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"That custom/part/beyblade is bad."

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(This one irritates me a lot because most of the time, it is not so much a bad custom, it is simpy outclassed, but no one seems to ever want to explain that. For example, if the most competitive custom I can make from my available parts is Twisted Aquario BD145 CS, does that make it a bad custom? The answer is no. It simply makes the custom outclassed to other customs, which in no way makes it bad. Please, clarify this instead of simply telling a new member that the custom that they use when battling against their friends is bad, because it is not. If it is something such as Poison Capricorn M145 MS, then explain why it does not perform well. The same thing goes for a specific part or Beyblade as a whole, but instead of just wasting a post, just take the time to explain it to the new member. This place is supposed to be about gaining more knowledge about Beyblade, not to make Members feel bad because they do not have access to top tier parts.)

Amen brother... totally agree with this.

One thing I always find to help a LOT more than you would think, is to just put a or a at the end of your post... it comes across as much friendlier.

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And no, I don't mean you should say "Your combo stinks. "

I think it's absolutely necessary to tell them the whole truth. You don't tell them that their combo is sort of good when it's obviously not just to make them feel better, you say something like "good try" or "better luck next time" or something warm and fuzzy like that after you break the bad news.

I just think that new members have no idea what they are doing yet (IE making useless threads for questions/outclassed combos), and they just want to be excepted and involved in all the cool stuff that's going on.

Then again, I don't know if I should be part of this discussion... I'm kind of new myself. XD

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Can I just say that I completely agree with this? I feel like this is something we've needed to address for a while. I was a new member here a little over a year ago, and even as a 16 year old, I felt scared of posting mostly because more experienced users (usually younger than me) would reply telling me to ask my question in another thread, without giving me direction as where to go. This is a pretty big site and even now, I occasionally have trouble finding the proper thread to post something in. Just leaving a link and telling someone to post there next time is more helpful than you would think, even if it takes a little more work. As the same time, the only experience I had about Beyblade was from what I'd seen in the anime. I made an account back when I thought L Drago and Basalt Horogium were the best Beyblades you could buy...that says enough as it is. However, I felt like I, or others like me, would get a sarcastic comment or just a reply, implying that what I'd said was clearly uneducated.

Sometimes it's hard to read between the lines on forums. Like theblackdragon said, putting a smiley face does help a lot more than you would think; it can mean the difference between someone feeling like you're looking down on them and feeling like you've given them advice. Correcting someone's grammar is never okay in my opinion, unless what they've said is so hard to decipher that you need them to clarify. End of discussion.

Also, guys, the mods are here for a reason. They'll get to it eventually, so there is no need to do their job for them, especially if you are unsure. Posting in a thread just to say that it will get closed is pretty unneeded, since regular members are incapable of closing threads in the first place. Leave that to a moderator to close it and explain why they did so, instead of trying to increase your post count or whatever. I know I've been at fault for the above at times, in fact, most likely most of us have. Let's work together to make this community as welcoming as possible

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Alter Chronos .8C.Ds (BST)
Genbull Genbull 90WD (STD)
Death Cancer E230RDF (STD)
Burn Aquario 90MF (LTD)
Lightning L Drago F: D (LTD)
Phantom Cancer ED145WD (LTD)
Burn Cancer B: D (LTD)
Saramanda Goreim LW160GF (Zero-G Sway)

Also, guys, the mods are here for a reason. They'll get to it eventually, so there is no need to do their job for them, especially if you are unsure. Posting in a thread just to say that it will get closed is pretty unneeded, since regular members are incapable of closing threads in the first place. Leave that to a moderator to close it and explain why they did so, instead of trying to increase your post count or whatever. I know I've been at fault for the above at times, in fact, most likely most of us have. Let's work together to make this community as welcoming as possible

Well, in my opinion, you CAN post with a reply to those threads, but instead of just saying "This is going to be closed," take the time to reason with them, tell them the answer to their question, and give them the link where they're topic/question belongs. Also tell them that the thread isn't needed and that they should just use the correct thread next time.

Then top it off with "Good luck blading! " Or "Have fun blading! "

One thing I always find to help a LOT more than you would think, is to just put a or a at the end of your post... it comes across as much friendlier.

Someone else agrees with me! I'm so not popular!

P.S. Did anyone notice that after my post, everyone began to put emojis whenever explaining that a thread wasn't needed? People do read my posts...

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I admit, I do sometimes "Mini-Mod", even thought I don't want to say it, haha
I try my best to be respectful to other members. I understand where this is coming from, and agree and disagree a bit.

First, I agree with some of the points made in the OP.

- Mini Mod+ Handling New Members
I think all members can be a little "mini-modish" at times.
I know I've done a fair share of- "This goes in ___________Thread- (link), ask it there"

I get that it could come off as rude, but at the same time I feel it's keeping the forum organized. I mean, that way they know where they should have posted it, and know where to post something similar in the future.

I also think that reading the rules and taking Kai-V's PM into consideration really needs to be the first thing new members do. Its obvious not a lot do, considering all of the: Cool Combo!, etc. threads that we get. I don't know how its possible to "enforce" reading the PM/rules, but it's something everyone should do, once in their time as a WBO Member, haha.


Younger bladers, as said before, usually don't know what parts are good, and use Anime-based Beys. (Idk how many kids I've battled in events that claim their bey has a special move and they shout about it in battle, lol) While they need to learn what's good or not, they should learn with a smile.

I mean, I guess one thing that should be done, is posting with a positive attitude. Again, I, and a lot of others sometimes do not always post 100% super positively. I know I've probably said(and countless other members, too), "That's not a good combo, list all of your parts so we can make you a better one.", or "That combo is outclassed, here is a better one____." I mean, its not chipper and sweet, but its not exactly saying "Your combo is horrible, what are you doing, idiot?"

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