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I quit beyblade

Aug. 14, 2017  3:28 AM
 
(Aug. 13, 2017  8:26 AM)Beylon Wrote: You know, this is not the first time this kind of thread has come up. Sadly, I expect it will not be the last.

It's not hard to see that a great number of people who use this forum are familiar with the pain of being bullied - particularly at school - and the unfair mental stress that comes with it. For a lot of people, both young and old, hobbies like Beyblade are their primary escape from the struggles of real life at all ages. The game provides a structure for play where the rules make sense, cheaters are disqualified and sportsmanship is a top priority - justice - quite unlike the harsh reality of everyday life. In that sense, Beyblade is a genuine refuge from reality. So it is utterly heartbreaking to think someone might be targeted just for seeking refuge (from an already nasty situation) in their otherwise harmless hobby.

I want to applaud the WBO for maintaining an environment here which is free of bullies. Particularly in recent years, the committee has been notably just and fair in its dealings and attempted to make improvements wherever it has slipped. But also the general culture of the forums, inclusive of all the members, has been notably cleaner than its early MFB days. If find this is pretty rare online, making the WBO one of the better internet places.

So I wonder, given the already good example the WBO sets for its members, if the forum as a whole (perhaps through the committee) might make some kind of public statement on this. Considering the importance Beyblade has in the lives of so many people, and how many of them obviously suffer varying levels of real-world persecution for their personal interests and otherwise common depressive or bipolar symptoms, it would be nice to know that the WBO is not just a passive observer of this issue. Beyblade has the power to bring people of all ages together - and to see that they actually outnumber the bullies. I just sense some opportunity for positive influence here, I guess.

Also, I'm glad Dragon King brought up the issue of physical intervention. I know his advice is not very popular these days but I very much agree that "ignore them and they will go away" is just a total fallacy. Ignorance solves nothing. Apart from "taking a beating for pride" or learning karate (both of which are valid responses, I reckon) I'm very interested to know what kind of positive action-taking steps people might take to address the situation in the OP, were it to happen them. In fact, it'd be nice to see this incorporated into some official response from the WBO.

A blader's guide to bullying?

I personally do not think I am entitled to give any sort of advice on this matter, hence why I have avoided replying to this topic so far. Throughout my school years, I have barely seen any bullying. I do not know if we just hear more about the worst situations, but bullying has somewhat always existed, yet never to this extent, it seems. It is as if there are more idiotic brutes in the latest generation than there were before. However, most of the time, a person like that does not come to fruition on their own... I share JJR's philosophy that nobody gets born evil, it is society around them that shapes them as such. Therefore, probably as not a kid anymore, I turn my glare mostly to the parents of those kids, and can only hope that my own generation will be able to raise their children better. 

The World Beyblade Organization is as open and disciplined as it is honestly because Brad and his friends paved the way to it. For instance, one of the past staff members is homosexual, and he therefore made sure that nobody used words related to that as insults, and we of course supported him in his hunt against senseless hate. However, I think the structure of a message board brings about way more accountability for everyone because nothing gets lost below a mass of new posts in a feed, and people have an easy way to report bad posts. We also have a very easy warning system, so we are not restricted by the fact that the only disciplinary measure is a ban from a chatroom, which would of course make us hesitate until we have to use the ban as a last measure. All posts receive basically the same exposure, they are not replies to a reply that get hidden away like on Facebook, and absolutely everybody can see your message, so beware of what you write. 
All in all, I think we could try to find tons of reasons, but the truth is that a lot of message boards even in the past have had horrible administration, so you might have just been lucky and gotten into a hobby with a fansite that happens to gather good people, hah. 

Anyway, the only advice I got that seemed to make sense, regarding bullying, is that you should seek an adult to intervene, not intervene yourself, and that is it. About your hobbies, I do not really know what to say. However, in my case, nobody learned about them unless they were my friends later on. Sometimes, you have to wait until the right opportunity to actually share your interests, for instance wait only until a convention to cosplay, or only until Halloween to dress up in public. For Beyblade, that opportunism might involve waiting until someone in your region hosts a tournament via the World Beyblade Organization, or until Hasbro hosts an event in a Toys "R" Us or something. "In my days", school was literally just for learning/studying, and making friends/socialising. If that is all everyone does, I barely see how bullies would fit in the picture.


I really hope that this person will return though, because the bullies will not stop just because he quit Beyblade, and I checked his Organizer's Quiz answers and they were actually legitimate.
Aug. 14, 2017  4:16 AM
 
(Aug. 14, 2017  3:28 AM)Kai-V Wrote:
(Aug. 13, 2017  8:26 AM)Beylon Wrote: You know, this is not the first time this kind of thread has come up. Sadly, I expect it will not be the last.

It's not hard to see that a great number of people who use this forum are familiar with the pain of being bullied - particularly at school - and the unfair mental stress that comes with it. For a lot of people, both young and old, hobbies like Beyblade are their primary escape from the struggles of real life at all ages. The game provides a structure for play where the rules make sense, cheaters are disqualified and sportsmanship is a top priority - justice - quite unlike the harsh reality of everyday life. In that sense, Beyblade is a genuine refuge from reality. So it is utterly heartbreaking to think someone might be targeted just for seeking refuge (from an already nasty situation) in their otherwise harmless hobby.

I want to applaud the WBO for maintaining an environment here which is free of bullies. Particularly in recent years, the committee has been notably just and fair in its dealings and attempted to make improvements wherever it has slipped. But also the general culture of the forums, inclusive of all the members, has been notably cleaner than its early MFB days. If find this is pretty rare online, making the WBO one of the better internet places.

So I wonder, given the already good example the WBO sets for its members, if the forum as a whole (perhaps through the committee) might make some kind of public statement on this. Considering the importance Beyblade has in the lives of so many people, and how many of them obviously suffer varying levels of real-world persecution for their personal interests and otherwise common depressive or bipolar symptoms, it would be nice to know that the WBO is not just a passive observer of this issue. Beyblade has the power to bring people of all ages together - and to see that they actually outnumber the bullies. I just sense some opportunity for positive influence here, I guess.

Also, I'm glad Dragon King brought up the issue of physical intervention. I know his advice is not very popular these days but I very much agree that "ignore them and they will go away" is just a total fallacy. Ignorance solves nothing. Apart from "taking a beating for pride" or learning karate (both of which are valid responses, I reckon) I'm very interested to know what kind of positive action-taking steps people might take to address the situation in the OP, were it to happen them. In fact, it'd be nice to see this incorporated into some official response from the WBO.

A blader's guide to bullying?

I personally do not think I am entitled to give any sort of advice on this matter, hence why I have avoided replying to this topic so far. Throughout my school years, I have barely seen any bullying. I do not know if we just hear more about the worst situations, but bullying has somewhat always existed, yet never to this extent, it seems. It is as if there are more idiotic brutes in the latest generation than there were before. However, most of the time, a person like that does not come to fruition on their own... I share JJR's philosophy that nobody gets born evil, it is society around them that shapes them as such. Therefore, probably as not a kid anymore, I turn my glare mostly to the parents of those kids, and can only hope that my own generation will be able to raise their children better. 

The World Beyblade Organization is as open and disciplined as it is honestly because Brad and his friends paved the way to it. For instance, one of the past staff members is homosexual, and he therefore made sure that nobody used words related to that as insults, and we of course supported him in his hunt against senseless hate. However, I think the structure of a message board brings about way more accountability for everyone because nothing gets lost below a mass of new posts in a feed, and people have an easy way to report bad posts. We also have a very easy warning system, so we are not restricted by the fact that the only disciplinary measure is a ban from a chatroom, which would of course make us hesitate until we have to use the ban as a last measure. All posts receive basically the same exposure, they are not replies to a reply that get hidden away like on Facebook, and absolutely everybody can see your message, so beware of what you write. 
All in all, I think we could try to find tons of reasons, but the truth is that a lot of message boards even in the past have had horrible administration, so you might have just been lucky and gotten into a hobby with a fansite that happens to gather good people, hah. 

Anyway, the only advice I got that seemed to make sense, regarding bullying, is that you should seek an adult to intervene, not intervene yourself, and that is it. About your hobbies, I do not really know what to say. However, in my case, nobody learned about them unless they were my friends later on. Sometimes, you have to wait until the right opportunity to actually share your interests, for instance wait only until a convention to cosplay, or only until Halloween to dress up in public. For Beyblade, that opportunism might involve waiting until someone in your region hosts a tournament via the World Beyblade Organization, or until Hasbro hosts an event in a Toys "R" Us or something. "In my days", school was literally just for learning/studying, and making friends/socialising. If that is all everyone does, I barely see how bullies would fit in the picture.


I really hope that this person will return though, because the bullies will not stop just because he quit Beyblade, and I checked his Organizer's Quiz answers and they were actually legitimate.

I wish the same for him, would of said it all the same and I'm only saying this because it's pretty sad and petty that people would go as far as punching someone just for liking something so simple and for the councillor to laugh is quite cruel considering the fact that she'd obviously see bruises, KaiV is unfortunately right though, quitting wouldn't make this stop because one of the things people like this do is make things stick and label people especially at this age because it's the stage where everyone is learning after whatever environment they live in and the people they're around the most, so best of luck to you because if I were around  you can bet that I'd have your back in person
Aug. 14, 2017  4:36 AM
 
Also, it's worth mentioning that middle school sucks, kids that age are asshats. A lot of people become more open and mature in High School, and frankly they quit caring about criticizing other people's hobbies. If he is 13-14, I would bet that things will improve relatively soon for him.
Aug. 14, 2017  8:59 AM
 
Never give up. You can still do beyblade, but never reveal it to anyone in person. There is no problem of loving beyblade. We, the beynation are here for ya all the way man!
Aug. 14, 2017  1:22 PM
 
I don't ma I checked his profile and he has not been online since he made this post
Aug. 14, 2017  1:49 PM
 
(Aug. 11, 2017  3:14 AM)Red Eye Wrote: I'm quitting beyblade because I am being bullied punching and being called names I can not say to me because I like and play beyblades this is a new school so it's worse I have the words GAY on my locker and I know how did it so I told a counselor but she just laughed at me for playing beyblades so I quit I'm done playing beyblades I'm throwing them all out

I find it sad that people still do this in schools. If even your counselor laughs and mocks you, then the school is the problem, not your hobby. Talk with a parent about it and have them tell the counselor about it. If she still laughs, then she's obviously not a true counselor, and it would be suggested to go to a different school.
Aug. 14, 2017  3:43 PM
 
(Aug. 12, 2017  11:44 AM)ClearWing R34 Wrote: Don't listen to those stupid bullies theyre just idiots I wish you were in my school they're no bullying and people play beyblade

i need to go to this school
Aug. 15, 2017  5:42 AM
 
(Aug. 14, 2017  3:28 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Sometimes, you have to wait until the right opportunity to actually share your interests, for instance wait only until a convention to cosplay, or only until Halloween to dress up in public. For Beyblade, that opportunism might involve waiting until someone in your region hosts a tournament via the World Beyblade Organization, or until Hasbro hosts an event in a Toys "R" Us or something. "In my days", school was literally just for learning/studying, and making friends/socialising. If that is all everyone does, I barely see how bullies would fit in the picture.

I share your thoughts on this. Though my thoughts on responsibility also extend to the parents of the victims (but not the actual victims). The "just ignore it" philosophy runs parallel with the Disney-esque notion that we should be able to "be whoever we want to be" without consequences. You can imagine the damage this does when we find out that "being ourselves" at school is making us a target for bullies.

For example, "standing out from the crowd" and "being ourselves" often broadcasts to bullies that we place a certain value in the idea of being "an individual" and this gives the bullies something to target. We care about ourselves, but they don't care at all about us, so they can trash the idea of our "self" without any remorse, regardless of who we are. Add to this the modern parental idea of reinforcing our self-esteem by telling us we're "valuable" and "special" and we've got a recipe for being bullied.

It is the same with anything we value, really. Whenever we declare to the world that we value something, we are basically presenting a "soft-spot" for bullies to target. Carrying a beyblade around shows that we value beyblades - making us a target for bullies who don't care at all for the game. So I basically agree that school is not a place for toys. Obviously plenty of people take their toys to school and have a great time but this is no guarantee. We all need to be aware that certain things attract bullies - carrying toys around and constantly talking about the things we "value" makes us a target.

This is not to say that I think we should ever try to be something we're not. It just means keeping our "self" safe from bullies. Keeping our heads down, not broadcasting our soft-spots. Most people will even find, as they age, that these soft-spots become the things which most attract other people. Soft-spots make people more interesting. For example, I'm getting towards 30 now and my interest in Beyblade is basically always looked upon in awe by the girls I bring home, who no doubt would have scoffed at me back in my hate-soaked school days. There is nothing wrong with liking Beyblade - but it is wise to reserve the things we value just for the people worth sharing them with. And that basically rules out school. Ha.
Aug. 15, 2017  3:42 PM
 
today in school my god Valkyrie fell out of my pocket and my someone was like you still play with bey-blades and tried to make fun of me and i told him i dont care what you think i like bey-blade and thats that and he stopped taking to me what im saying is that you need to keep doing what you love no matter what people say.
Aug. 16, 2017  12:28 AM
 
Do you think he will come back
Aug. 16, 2017  3:20 PM
 
(Aug. 16, 2017  12:28 AM)RedRexy0 Wrote: Do you think he will come back

I hope he dose he needs to read all of these posts
Aug. 16, 2017  5:25 PM
 
(Aug. 11, 2017  3:14 AM)Red Eye Wrote: I'm quitting beyblade because I am being bullied punching and being called names I can not say to me because I like and play beyblades this is a new school so it's worse I have the words GAY on my locker and I know how did it so I told a counselor but she just laughed at me for playing beyblades so I quit I'm done playing beyblades I'm throwing them all out
Were do you live bro ?
Aug. 17, 2017  2:28 AM
 
I have came back one more time and I'm glad that I have a whole bunch of people that support me I spoke to the police and they have handled the bullies and I told my mom about the situation and she was crying that I got bullied it was sad so she said if this place is not safe then we will move so therefore we have moved back to Houston with my old friends I will be back to blading my beyblades are safe I could not find them so I thankfully did not throw the, away thank you for all the support I appreciate it??
Aug. 17, 2017  2:33 AM
 
It's okay, It's good that you didn't give up on something you spent a lot of time on and loved to play.
Aug. 17, 2017  2:41 AM
 
I am so glad that you were able to get back to blading happily, this really put a smile on my face Smile, I'm so happy for you! And I am really glad that the situation is now handled, and you won't be going through what you were anymore, and I also want to wish you happy times from now on in blading and life. P.S. I had a dream about this. Smile
Aug. 17, 2017  3:28 AM
 
Glad you didn't give up what you loved. Hope this experience makes you stronger and one day you might be able to help someone in a similar situation Smile
Aug. 17, 2017  4:59 AM
 
(Aug. 17, 2017  2:28 AM)Red Eye Wrote: I have came back one more time and I'm glad that I have a whole bunch of people that support me I spoke to the police and they have handled the bullies and I told my mom about the situation and she was crying that I got bullied it was sad so she said if this place is not safe then we will move so therefore we have moved back to Houston with my old friends I will be back to blading my beyblades are safe I could not find them so I thankfully did not throw the, away thank you for all the support I appreciate it??

Thats the spirit...problems and solutions are the two phases of a coin...so when problems arise...so arise the solution....whenever u face problems...share with ur family or frnds...and they will always help u to overcome it...

Keep up the spirit...everybody here is proud of u....
Aug. 17, 2017  4:16 PM
 
(Aug. 17, 2017  2:28 AM)Red Eye Wrote: I have came back one more time and I'm glad that I have a whole bunch of people that support me I spoke to the police and they have handled the bullies and I told my mom about the situation and she was crying that I got bullied it was sad so she said if this place is not safe then we will move so therefore we have moved back to Houston with my old friends I will be back to blading my beyblades are safe I could not find them so I thankfully did not throw the, away thank you for all the support I appreciate it??

this made my day
Aug. 17, 2017  5:13 PM
 
(Aug. 17, 2017  2:28 AM)Red Eye Wrote: I have came back one more time and I'm glad that I have a whole bunch of people that support me I spoke to the police and they have handled the bullies and I told my mom about the situation and she was crying that I got bullied it was sad so she said if this place is not safe then we will move so therefore we have moved back to Houston with my old friends I will be back to blading my beyblades are safe I could not find them so I thankfully did not throw the, away thank you for all the support I appreciate it??

Thats awesome friend. I'm realy happy to hear that. Sorry for not replying but all basicly said everything I would have so I thought to not repost
Aug. 20, 2017  9:30 AM
 
If you're being bullied the best thing to do is punch the bully right in the face so hard that his teeth fall out. That teaches him and the rest of them that you won't tolerate their carp.
ita terrible advice to tell someone who is bullied to ignore it or conform to the bullies requirements in order to not get bullied anymore. Hit him over the head with a heavy book.

I'm 22 years old with a professional job. I have countless sealed mint in box Classic Beyblades and a collection of mint in box classic Thomas the tank engine toys, I still manage to remain popular because I stick up for myself. My present girlfriend was an anime fan and was actually impressed by my Beyblade collection.
Additionally. Being called "gay" isn't an insult. It's a perfectly reasonable way of life for many people. Only retards think gay is actually a valid insult.
Aug. 21, 2017  3:45 PM
 
He already got it sorted out guys, so I think we can let this topic rest, no more advice needed.
Aug. 21, 2017  3:52 PM
 
(Aug. 20, 2017  9:30 AM)UltimateSaizo Wrote: If you're being bullied the best thing to do is punch the bully right in the face so hard that his teeth fall out. That teaches him and the rest of them that you won't tolerate their carp.
ita terrible advice to tell someone who is bullied to ignore it or conform to the bullies requirements in order to not get bullied anymore. Hit him over the head with a heavy book.

I'm 22 years old with a professional job. I have countless sealed mint in box Classic Beyblades and a collection of mint in box classic Thomas the tank engine toys, I still manage to remain popular because I stick up for myself. My present girlfriend was an anime fan and was actually impressed by my Beyblade collection.
Additionally. Being called "gay" isn't an insult. It's a perfectly reasonable way of life for many people. Only retards think gay is actually a valid insult.

It is terrible advice to tell someone to hit anybody. That is not the solution at all, and even as self-defense you could get into so much trouble even if you are a minor. If the body hits something else after the blow, you are responsible, and it could absolutely lead to much grimmer consequences, even death. You are twenty-two years old, you should be more mature than that. 



I just wanted to correct this wrong advice but yes, we could almost lock this topic since everything seems to be sorted out in real life.
Aug. 22, 2017  6:34 PM
 
Those are some sad losers
Aug. 22, 2017  6:49 PM
 
I feel bad for you. It's really unfortunate to hear that you have been bullied simply because you like beyblade. I hope everything gets better.
Aug. 23, 2017  10:44 AM
 
Guys, it's sorted out, leave this thread be. Kai-V should we go ahead and lock this, the issue is resolved?
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