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When I try logging in to Beywiki with my wbo account it say's wrong password but when i use the same username and password on here it works I can login to the beywiki when i go to the one on the top of the page next to beychannel but when i go to the other one it doesn't wok
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L-Drago articles don't seem to have a standard for how to parse their titles. I believe it should always be "L-Drago", with a hyphen. Some of them, indeed all but 2, have a space instead. Both TakaraTomy and Hasbro parse it with a hyphen on the packaging.
(Sep. 12, 2013 5:08 PM)KingStarscream Wrote: L-Drago articles don't seem to have a standard for how to parse their titles. I believe it should always be "L-Drago", with a hyphen. Some of them, indeed all but 2, have a space instead. Both TakaraTomy and Hasbro parse it with a hyphen on the packaging.
No, TAKARA-TOMY has not used a hyphen on the original BB-23 L Drago, and as such it was ambiguous everytime after that. Usually we have redirects for all the disambiguations though.
(Sep. 13, 2013 2:18 AM)Kai-V Wrote:(Sep. 12, 2013 5:08 PM)KingStarscream Wrote: L-Drago articles don't seem to have a standard for how to parse their titles. I believe it should always be "L-Drago", with a hyphen. Some of them, indeed all but 2, have a space instead. Both TakaraTomy and Hasbro parse it with a hyphen on the packaging.
No, TAKARA-TOMY has not used a hyphen on the original BB-23 L Drago, and as such it was ambiguous everytime after that. Usually we have redirects for all the disambiguations though.
Okay, understandable in that case then. I did notice though, from a quick search, it didn't have a space either. From an organizational standpoint, I think something should be decided upon: original packaging, revised packaging, or some other official source rather than leaving it to the whim of the author. I know it's not the exact policy on THIS wiki, which is totally fine, but a lot of them don't like excessive redirects since they create more pages and potentially lead to disagreements over which is the "right" one and such.
it doesnt have an article on screw fox or screw lyre
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The articles will be written eventually.
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Fang Leone Article is missing from Beywiki . Can i post a draft ???
http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php?...t_Beyblade
There are two articles listed for Galaxy Pegasis W105R²F except one has a glitched title.
Both contain the exact same content.
There are two articles listed for Galaxy Pegasis W105R²F except one has a glitched title.
Both contain the exact same content.
The Dragoon V2 has an error in the "Use in Force Smash Customization" section which reads:
"this customization will almost always outspin any opponent that cannot KO it, which, due to its grip, use of a Heavy Metal Core, and overall round, defensive profile, are few and far between. "
This implies that most beyblades can KO the custom, whereas the idea that's trying to be conveyed is that it's hard to KO. To clarify, the problem is that it reads as:
"outspin any opponent that cannot KO it, which...are few and far between"
"this customization will almost always outspin any opponent that cannot KO it, which, due to its grip, use of a Heavy Metal Core, and overall round, defensive profile, are few and far between. "
This implies that most beyblades can KO the custom, whereas the idea that's trying to be conveyed is that it's hard to KO. To clarify, the problem is that it reads as:
"outspin any opponent that cannot KO it, which...are few and far between"
I think there´s an error in the article about the winders. I counted the teeth of all my Hasbro Dragon Winders and I counted 68 teeth instead of 69 for each winder. They are definitely no fakes, because they came with the Hasbro starter packs I purchased more than ten years ago.
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(Feb. 06, 2014 11:28 PM)Turquoise Wrote: The Dragoon V2 has an error in the "Use in Force Smash Customization" section which reads:
"this customization will almost always outspin any opponent that cannot KO it, which, due to its grip, use of a Heavy Metal Core, and overall round, defensive profile, are few and far between. "
This implies that most beyblades can KO the custom, whereas the idea that's trying to be conveyed is that it's hard to KO. To clarify, the problem is that it reads as:
"outspin any opponent that cannot KO it, which...are few and far between"
Fixed - I think I may have been so fond of the phrasing that I overlooked the fact it was saying the wrong thing, haha. Thank you for pointing that out.
(Feb. 11, 2014 3:37 PM)stoney2208 Wrote: I think there´s an error in the article about the winders. I counted the teeth of all my Hasbro Dragon Winders and I counted 68 teeth instead of 69 for each winder. They are definitely no fakes, because they came with the Hasbro starter packs I purchased more than ten years ago.
You know, I never bothered to check the counts myself, and now I have, you are correct, Dragon Winders have 68 Teeth (I counted a Takara one to be sure), the same as the Takara MFB Light Launcher winder. I've corrected the article appropriately. I must say I'm curious why you counted yours anyway (commendable attitude to take, though), but thanks for bringing this to my attention.
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(Feb. 11, 2014 6:48 PM)th!nk Wrote: You know, I never bothered to check the counts myself, and now I have, you are correct, Dragon Winders have 68 Teeth (I counted a Takara one to be sure), the same as the Takara MFB Light Launcher winder. I've corrected the article appropriately. I must say I'm curious why you counted yours anyway (commendable attitude to take, though), but thanks for bringing this to my attention.
You´re very welcome.
I didn´t have anything else to do, so I killed one hour sitting on the floor counting the teeth of my winders.
Just kidding, actually I recently sold a Dragon Winder and to make sure it´s not fake I counted the teeth of my old winders. I´ve come across quite a few winders with 71 or 65 teeth and assumed they would be fake.Edit: Btw, I counted 45 teeth for the standard EZ launcher winder and 58 for the HMS winder, which isn´t mentioned in the article. Maybe this could be interesting to identify fake winders, too.
...yeah, had to kill another hour... XD
Edit: Just checked the Dragoon S article. There are pictures of Dragoon S anime version titled as "Dragoon S original version" (lol I made the same mistake in my selling thread XD)
So I was reading the Archer Gargole article and I am going to have to disagree with one the similarity statements in the SA165 section:
E230 doesn't actually have those protrusions like SA165 or GCF. It's probably actually smoother than even BD145.
Beywiki Wrote:its outermost circumference is full of small spikes like on E230 and GCF.
E230 doesn't actually have those protrusions like SA165 or GCF. It's probably actually smoother than even BD145.
(Mar. 06, 2014 3:54 AM)Tri Wrote: So I was reading the Archer Gargole article and I am going to have to disagree with one the similarity statements in the SA165 section:
Beywiki Wrote:its outermost circumference is full of small spikes like on E230 and GCF.
E230 doesn't actually have those protrusions like SA165 or GCF. It's probably actually smoother than even BD145.
Fixed. Also fixed a spelling error with reminiscent, and changed instances of Parabole to Parabola - that is something I'll PM Kai-V about later, as I'm not sure if she meant Parabola (the mathematical concept from graphing a quadratic function) or the obscure-to-the-point-I've-never-heard-it use of parabole as a synonym for 'Dish' at various points throughout the article (obscurity presumably due to 'dish' being much simpler, and avoiding confusion with parable though even 'parabola' can mean parable according to wiktionary haha). Might look at a small rewrite using dish and perhaps Concave and Convex to describe modes but I'm not sure if that's going to be more clear to the average reader haha (though you know googling is a thing).
(Feb. 11, 2014 7:22 PM)Stoney2208 Wrote:(Feb. 11, 2014 6:48 PM)th!nk Wrote: You know, I never bothered to check the counts myself, and now I have, you are correct, Dragon Winders have 68 Teeth (I counted a Takara one to be sure), the same as the Takara MFB Light Launcher winder. I've corrected the article appropriately. I must say I'm curious why you counted yours anyway (commendable attitude to take, though), but thanks for bringing this to my attention.
You´re very welcome.
I didn´t have anything else to do, so I killed one hour sitting on the floor counting the teeth of my winders.
Edit: Btw, I counted 45 teeth for the standard EZ launcher winder and 58 for the HMS winder, which isn´t mentioned in the article. Maybe this could be interesting to identify fake winders, too.
...yeah, had to kill another hour... XD
Edit: Just checked the Dragoon S article. There are pictures of Dragoon S anime version titled as "Dragoon S original version" (lol I made the same mistake in my selling thread XD)
Fixed the Dragoon S one, will confirm your tooth counts later today or tomorrow and add them. Thanks again
Oh FWIW fake winders often get the tooth count right, with them I generally look at the plastic & molding quality to determine legitimacy. Hard to explain or even show in pictures over the net though, as you have to be aware of the multiple different plastics that have been used, what they were used for, etc.
(Mar. 06, 2014 6:29 AM)th!nk Wrote:(Mar. 06, 2014 3:54 AM)Tri Wrote: So I was reading the Archer Gargole article and I am going to have to disagree with one the similarity statements in the SA165 section:
Beywiki Wrote:its outermost circumference is full of small spikes like on E230 and GCF.
E230 doesn't actually have those protrusions like SA165 or GCF. It's probably actually smoother than even BD145.
Fixed. Also fixed a spelling error with reminiscent, and changed instances of Parabole to Parabola - that is something I'll PM Kai-V about later, as I'm not sure if she meant Parabola (the mathematical concept from graphing a quadratic function) or the obscure-to-the-point-I've-never-heard-it use of parabole as a synonym for 'Dish' at various points throughout the article (obscurity presumably due to 'dish' being much simpler, and avoiding confusion with parable though even 'parabola' can mean parable according to wiktionary haha).
I think you're reading too much into it; parabole is French for parabola. Parabole, in English, does have the same meaning, but it's now considered rare by the Oxford, and is out of most common dictionaries.
On the subject of errors, I was about to edit the width value of the 230 Track as per the discussion in the Old Project thread (I didn't), and seeing as there was three articles to edit, I figured I'd make an article for 230 to show what we could do with proper transclusion extensions (I didn't either). Instead I found three articles, each having uneven amounts of information, none having the same customization.
So here's an example of what happens when you use let's-hope-this-blows-over policy on efficiency, even when there's no debate to be had: (Click to View)
(Mar. 06, 2014 1:58 PM)Nocto Wrote: I think you're reading too much into it; parabole is French for parabola. Parabole, in English, does have the same meaning, but it's now considered rare by the Oxford, and is out of most common dictionaries.I was aware of all of that, which is why I went ahead and corrected it anyway, but you know, benefit of the doubt and all that (plus a very vague interest in etymology).
Quote:So here's an example of what happens when you use let's-hope-this-blows-over policy on efficiency, even when there's no debate to be had:
For what it's worth, it's not a matter of policy, but a matter of qualified people not having enough time to do things (perhaps poor time management, which for some is hard to fix) and various issues that make expanding that group of qualified people any further difficult. I know that Kai-V at least puts as much time into this sort of thing as she can, despite a very busy schedule. I don't know if that makes it any easier to swallow, but that's the basic reason from what I've gathered. Aside from this however, no argument - it's probably quite well known that I agree with your sentiments.
If you guys are tweiking the whole 230 thing, I actually wrote this up a while back as an update to the Duo Uranus 230WD draft:
Just slightly more up-to-date combinations in there. You could work off this if you wanted to change some stuff besides the measurements.
Quote:230 is the tallest Track released thus far. 230 is part of the Maximum Series, and is labelled as the Maximum Height for Tracks. 230 has six indents near the top of the Track that sharpen downwards to about the half of the Track. 230 is rounder and thicker than regular Tracks with no gimmicks, in order to protect it structurally as it comes into regular contact with opposing Wheels. Its round and smooth shape results in significantly less recoil than if it were based on the traditional hexagonal Track shape. Since 230 is so tall, it can wobble at great lengths for extra Stamina, defeating various Stamina customizations with lower Tracks. From a defensive viewpoint, it uses its height as an advantage to protect itself from low incoming Attacks, by protecting the Metal Wheel from major contact while using the reinforced plastic to absorb most of the shock. As a result of this, 230 can deal passably with some low Attack customizations under the 120 height when paired with other top-tier Defense parts. However, held up against the extremely solid E230, 230 is not considered a competitive Defense part, and should only be used defensively in the absence of E230.
230 also has some notable weaknesses. As a Defense Track, 230 is extremely susceptible to mid/tall Track Attack types in the opposite spin direction, such as MSF-M Bahamdia Dragooon BD145LRF and Wyvang Dragooon SA165R2F. Additionally, TH170 at 220 height is successful against 230-based customizations, while also offering height-based versatility at the same time.
===Use in Stamina Customization===
230 can be put to use in the [[Survival | Stamina]] customization '''Duo Cancer 230D'''.
Just slightly more up-to-date combinations in there. You could work off this if you wanted to change some stuff besides the measurements.
(Mar. 06, 2014 6:29 AM)th!nk Wrote: Oh FWIW fake winders often get the tooth count right, with them I generally look at the plastic & molding quality to determine legitimacy. Hard to explain or even show in pictures over the net though, as you have to be aware of the multiple different plastics that have been used, what they were used for, etc.
Yeah, but when I counted the teeth I only used winders I pulled out of original Hasbro boxes a coulple of years ago, just to make sure that the number is correct.
Oh, I was only commenting on how much it helps identify fakes, I know you're a very sensible person haha.
@TBD: I think Nocto was trying to say a lot more than 'the 230 entry needs updating' but thanks for the contribution. I would still alter it further - go into maybe some specifics about how it worked in its time and how it works (it's not the wobble, it's the fact it grinds the heck out of opposing beys that have better solo spin times, TH220 also does this with the sloped section, A230 does not do this well in the least), which is why low track tornado stallers outspin it.
@TBD: I think Nocto was trying to say a lot more than 'the 230 entry needs updating' but thanks for the contribution. I would still alter it further - go into maybe some specifics about how it worked in its time and how it works (it's not the wobble, it's the fact it grinds the heck out of opposing beys that have better solo spin times, TH220 also does this with the sloped section, A230 does not do this well in the least), which is why low track tornado stallers outspin it.
Oh, whoops. I got threads mixed up. I was referring to the measurement changes from the "Measurement Freaks" thread you guys were gonna implement (IE if you're changing it, some updated info would be cool to toss in on the side).
Sorry about that, haha.
Sorry about that, haha.
hey i just wanted to comment that the wiki doesnt mention bakushin susanow's other clear wheel mold. susanow with 105 F has more plastic on the underside than the one with 90 WF.
(Mar. 07, 2014 8:45 PM)Broblade Wrote: hey i just wanted to comment that the wiki doesnt mention bakushin susanow's other clear wheel mold. susanow with 105 F has more plastic on the underside than the one with 90 WF.
Oh, that is because it was a fact we were sincerely not aware of. Do you have photographs you could post so we could see the comparison ? Would you also have weights for each ?
Might try to fix this up myself when I get time, but for the record, I'm pretty sure official punctuation for the word L-Drago in the releated series of beyblades is "L-Drago" aside from the original, which uses a space instead ("L Drago"). In the case of Lightning onward, it's shown clearly on the box that there's a hyphen (http://cdn2.sulitstatic.com/images/2012/...6c7e09.jpg for lightning). This also goes for the Digital Power Launcher L-Drago Ver. (which the box actually romanizes as LL-Drago Ver. with two tesselated L's, but I'm going to say that's just stylistic as the katakana only includes one eru). For L Drago there is a space in the Katakana between eru and dorago, I don't see any romanization in the instruction booklet or on the front of the box (can't find good back images but if it's not in the booklet it is probably not there), while later ones don't have a space at all in the Katakana.
Currently, beywiki tends to use Lightning L Drago and Meteo L Drago, most notably in the former's article, but also in the mfb product list and presumably various other locations throughout the wiki (eg mentions in other articles). Just want to confirm there's no ambiguity on this before I set aside the time it'll take to fix all that up.
Also, while I'm here, as it's not really an error, it is probably worth mentioning in the Random Booster 7 article that the box refers to Herculeo as "Heracleo", despite Herculeo being the name used in the original release with the Tornado Beystadium, to prevent confusion, but I'm not actually entirely sure off the top of my head how to go about that so I figured I'd mention it and see if relevant persons wanted that done a specific way rather than go ahead and do it on my own. Also going to suggest we add links to the individual beyblades articles in random booster articles and also include a sentence at the start of those individual articles saying they are from random booster _____ with a link to the relevant page. The former is done in some cases, but yeah. I'm happy to do so if given the go-ahead. (Also, Vulcan mold sections should be up soon, just fiddling with wording as usual, and have been busy).
Finally, our listed weight for Phantom, while legitimate, is an exceptionally heavy one. Most are around the 42.5g mark, sources being:
Arupaeo and Uwik's posts early in this thread, where the issue is discussed: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Weight-i...n-testings
And Byser/Ingulit's weights here: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Weights-of-MFB?page=9
And of course my own one.
Will get an average together soon as with a single 40g piece of metal, 2g or thereabouts of variation isn't so much that I suspect a mold difference, especially as instances in the upper eschelons of that range seem very rare.
The one issue I have is that most of the weights are given as whole weights for the Metal Frame and PC Core together. As such, I'll have to do an average of the cores and subtract that from each weight, but that average would be based on only three samples right now (my one and byser's two), so I'm a tad apprehensive - though I do think that'll give us the most accurate weights possible, seeing as it gives us like 7 more weights that cover a wider range than just mine and Byser's.
Won't be counting the one on Beywiki as I can't find where they came from after trawling through the discussion thread for the release (which may I just say was a pretty painful exercise) and some relevant videos, the only weights I found supported the 42g total for frame+core, and the ones there are round for my liking. They were in the initial post of the draft that eventually got approved and I don't remember BeyBladeStation having a set of scales or whatever himself, and they're rather round for my liking.
I've posted other stuff in beyblade random thoughts and the 4d weight variation topic in the advanced forum and so on covering some related stuff but most of that isn't ready for inclusion, though I do feel an urge to correct the erroneous Metal System weights (stillll waiting on my new Pegasis to arrive though) if I can find enough data for them, so I might go do that rather than wait for others to provide additional weights if they aren't actually necessary.
Currently, beywiki tends to use Lightning L Drago and Meteo L Drago, most notably in the former's article, but also in the mfb product list and presumably various other locations throughout the wiki (eg mentions in other articles). Just want to confirm there's no ambiguity on this before I set aside the time it'll take to fix all that up.
Also, while I'm here, as it's not really an error, it is probably worth mentioning in the Random Booster 7 article that the box refers to Herculeo as "Heracleo", despite Herculeo being the name used in the original release with the Tornado Beystadium, to prevent confusion, but I'm not actually entirely sure off the top of my head how to go about that so I figured I'd mention it and see if relevant persons wanted that done a specific way rather than go ahead and do it on my own. Also going to suggest we add links to the individual beyblades articles in random booster articles and also include a sentence at the start of those individual articles saying they are from random booster _____ with a link to the relevant page. The former is done in some cases, but yeah. I'm happy to do so if given the go-ahead. (Also, Vulcan mold sections should be up soon, just fiddling with wording as usual, and have been busy).
Finally, our listed weight for Phantom, while legitimate, is an exceptionally heavy one. Most are around the 42.5g mark, sources being:
Arupaeo and Uwik's posts early in this thread, where the issue is discussed: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Weight-i...n-testings
And Byser/Ingulit's weights here: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Weights-of-MFB?page=9
And of course my own one.
Will get an average together soon as with a single 40g piece of metal, 2g or thereabouts of variation isn't so much that I suspect a mold difference, especially as instances in the upper eschelons of that range seem very rare.
The one issue I have is that most of the weights are given as whole weights for the Metal Frame and PC Core together. As such, I'll have to do an average of the cores and subtract that from each weight, but that average would be based on only three samples right now (my one and byser's two), so I'm a tad apprehensive - though I do think that'll give us the most accurate weights possible, seeing as it gives us like 7 more weights that cover a wider range than just mine and Byser's.
Won't be counting the one on Beywiki as I can't find where they came from after trawling through the discussion thread for the release (which may I just say was a pretty painful exercise) and some relevant videos, the only weights I found supported the 42g total for frame+core, and the ones there are round for my liking. They were in the initial post of the draft that eventually got approved and I don't remember BeyBladeStation having a set of scales or whatever himself, and they're rather round for my liking.
I've posted other stuff in beyblade random thoughts and the 4d weight variation topic in the advanced forum and so on covering some related stuff but most of that isn't ready for inclusion, though I do feel an urge to correct the erroneous Metal System weights (stillll waiting on my new Pegasis to arrive though) if I can find enough data for them, so I might go do that rather than wait for others to provide additional weights if they aren't actually necessary.