You claim to go to tournaments where practically everyone is using "top-tier" where is your blader passport and beypoints?
Claiming such a part has no potential defies physics. SW145 - it is at the 145 track height - the fins add mass.
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:18 PM)BladeStorm Wrote: [ -> ]You claim to go to tournaments where practically everyone is using "top-tier" where is your blader passport and beypoints?
I never claimed to go to WBO Tournaments. Don't put words in my mouth, or I'll put your SPAM back in yours. If you just watch the Tournament video's on YouTube, you will see most of the people using Top-Tier Combos.
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:18 PM)BladeStorm Wrote: [ -> ]Claiming such a part has no potential defies physics. SW145 - it is at the 145 track height - the fins add mass.
Either way, it's still outclassed. For example, ED145 has more mass than C145, but does that make it Top-Tier? No! Does that make C145 outclassed? No!
Deal with it... â•_â•
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:22 PM)Bey-Heart Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 05, 2011 10:18 PM)BladeStorm Wrote: [ -> ]You claim to go to tournaments where practically everyone is using "top-tier" where is your blader passport and beypoints?
I never claimed to go to WBO Tournaments. Don't put words in my mouth. If you just watch the Tournament video's on YouTube, you will see most of the people using Top-Tier Combos.
The videos are a skewed representation - the multitude of which clips come from the finals.
You have just weakened your arguement by saying you have never been to a tournament.
When you go to a tournament would you: Have a Bey to use against everyone, or use a sub/hidden beyblade to sweep those you know haven't got the "top tier". Beating top tier IS the aim in "best overall beyblade" but is it practical in everyday tournament use? I'm not sure about you but winning in something on WBO is no where near as pleasurable to racking up wins in a tournament.
SW145 HAS use. Tell me, have you tried it with the purpose of lowering the centre of gravity as the main aim over a gimmickless track? There may be BETTER parts with different shaped/massed protusions that could be better, but SW145 never the less has an use, instead of simply being for defence/stamina.
YOUR game is to beat top tier, that's all it has been concentrated on. An ideal world is comparissons against different levels of strength as well as the "this beats this". Earth 2 beats Burn 1, Burn 1 beats Burn 2, Burn 2 beats Earth 2.
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:18 PM)BladeStorm Wrote: [ -> ]You claim to go to tournaments where practically everyone is using "top-tier" where is your blader passport and beypoints?
Claiming such a part has no potential defies physics. SW145 - it is at the 145 track height - the fins add mass.
for stamina mass makes more weight witch=less stamina
for defence gb145 has much much more weight than sw145, for defence you want more weight
for attack beys do better on a 100/90/85 track then 145
also you dont need a blader passport to go to a tournament
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:27 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 05, 2011 10:18 PM)BladeStorm Wrote: [ -> ]You claim to go to tournaments where practically everyone is using "top-tier" where is your blader passport and beypoints?
Claiming such a part has no potential defies physics. SW145 - it is at the 145 track height - the fins add mass.
for stamina mass makes more weight witch=less stamina
for defence gb145 has much much more weight than sw145, for defence you want more weight
for attack beys do better on a 100/90/85 track then 145
also you dont need a blader passport to go to a tournament
Don't regurgitate the same, misleading info you have pieced together from different sources. Use physical phenomena like Newton's, Reynold's, Elastic Collision.
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:24 PM)BladeStorm Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 05, 2011 10:22 PM)Bey-Heart Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 05, 2011 10:18 PM)BladeStorm Wrote: [ -> ]You claim to go to tournaments where practically everyone is using "top-tier" where is your blader passport and beypoints?
I never claimed to go to WBO Tournaments. Don't put words in my mouth. If you just watch the Tournament video's on YouTube, you will see most of the people using Top-Tier Combos.
The videos are a skewed representation - the multitude of which clips come from the finals.
You have just weakened your arguement by saying you have never been to a tournament.
FOR THE LAST TIME!
I NEVER SAID THAT I HAVE BEEN TO A TOURNAMENT!!
Once again. Stop putting words in my mouth or I will put your SPAM back in yours!
You need to deal with the fact that SW145 is outclassed. â•_â•
We never said what is better than what. YOU SAID it had no potential! It does have potential over 145, it may not be the BEST, but it sure has potential. You don't even need to test such a thing, we're saying anything with no potential is ridiculous. SW145 has potential, and potential you have not described clearly at all. Potential in what? Defensive potential? Potential to be top tier? It sure has potential on adding weight to a Bey, i.e Gravity Perseus as attack. R145 was the heaviest track and proved to be great customised with MF-H Gravity Perseus R145RF, which I used to win countless battles in meetups/ tournaments. In the practical world, weight means advantages in different categories of use. What if you don't have GB145 or R145? I wouldn't pick 145 over SW145 for weight, it has potential there.
EDIT: Now you say outclassed? Potential and outclassing are completely different. Explain.
i have always said out classed
and i said to the PM, we are spaming this thread
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:33 PM)ControL_ Wrote: [ -> ]SW145 has potential, and potential you have not described clearly at all. Potential in what? Defensive potential? Potential to be top tier? It sure has potential
It has no potential! When it comes to Defense, the moment SW145 get's hit (90% of the time) the Beyblade's bounces back and loses most of it's Stamina. Thus it loses by OutSpin.
When it comes to Attack, it's recoil once again completely kills All (and I do mean all) of it's Stamina. Once again, loses by OutSpin. (After only 1-2 hits!)
When it comes to Stamina. Same thing, It loses it all because of Recoil!
Now do you see why it is an extremely outclassed part?!
EDIT: See my point? There ya go. Argument finished. Time to get back on topic now.
I never agued with it being outclassed! You only recently brought that into this, I am arguing with it's potential. I am assuming you mean SW145 is attacked directly by the opposing Bey. On RSF/RS this completely changes the movement of the Bey after contact, any higher track than 90 I would expect there to be no plastic to metal contact and metal to metal where weight comes in play. R145 has the same recoil so your argument does not only stand for SW145, but to all outputting tracks.
This one's metal fusion
my parts:
facebolt: gasher,Virgo,Leone,bull
energy ring: Leone,virgo,bull,gasher,saggitario,L-Drago
Fusion wheel
ark(2),Earth,rock,flame,lightning
spin track:gasher's,145,H145,GB145,100,C145
performance tip:HF,FS,SD,BS,WB,S
If you could make a combo out of that, I'll thank you until I'm 54!
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:46 PM)Rejji Wrote: [ -> ]This one's metal fusion
my parts:
facebolt: gasher,Virgo,Leone,bull
energy ring: Leone,virgo,bull,gasher,saggitario,L-Drago
Fusion wheelark(2),Earth,rock,flame,lightning
spin track:gasher's,145,H145,GB145,100,C145
performance tip:HF,FS,SD,BS,WB,S
If you could make a combo out of that, I'll thank you until I'm 54!
earth bull gb145wb
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:46 PM)Rejji Wrote: [ -> ]This one's metal fusion
my parts:
facebolt: gasher,Virgo,Leone,bull
energy ring: Leone,virgo,bull,gasher,saggitario,L-Drago
Fusion wheelark(2),Earth,rock,flame,lightning
spin track:gasher's,145,H145,GB145,100,C145
performance tip:HF,FS,SD,BS,WB,S
If you could make a combo out of that, I'll thank you until I'm 54!
Hmm, try this one.
Earth Bull C145WB It's a pretty good Defensive type Combo.
EDIT: Beaten.
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:46 PM)Rejji Wrote: [ -> ]This one's metal fusion
my parts:
facebolt: gasher,Virgo,Leone,bull
energy ring: Leone,virgo,bull,gasher,saggitario,L-Drago
Fusion wheelark(2),Earth,rock,flame,lightning
spin track:gasher's,145,H145,GB145,100,C145
performance tip:HF,FS,SD,BS,WB,S
If you could make a combo out of that, I'll thank you until I'm 54!
Attack: Uncustomised LLdrago? (RF + MF necessary for top tier)
Defence: Earth Bull GB145WB
Stamina: Earth Bull 145BS ?? (AD145, 85, 90, would be better tracks for stamina, WD/D/SD too.
EDIT: also beaten
[Defence] Earth Bull GB145WB [Good, needs a MF and a RS.]
[Stamina] Earth Bull 145SD [Very Good, I'm assuming the Earth is second mold.]
[Attack] Lightning L-Drago 100HF [Decent, RF is essential.]
EDIT: Beaten twice, but Control, he does own a SD. =/
(Jan. 05, 2011 9:55 PM)BladeStorm Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 05, 2011 9:28 PM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: [ -> ]yes but that is wrong, if the part has been tested with top tier parts vs top tier combos and loses, and the same combo with a diferent part wins then that other part is out classed
basicly 145>df145 so 145 is better
sw145<df145/145 so sw145 is bad
for which physical application, on which exact combo, for which exact purpose against which exact physical entity.
Back to the thread, I need a combo that could knock Burn Bull 145WD out of a TT attack stadium.
Parts:
Lightning L Drago 100HF
Dark Wolf DF145FS
Dark Bull H145SD
Storm Aquario 100 HF/S
Dark Gasher CH120SF
Rock Aries ED145B
attack ll drago ch120 hf or hfs
defence just leave aries uncostomized
stamina you dont have anything to go for stamina
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:46 PM)Rejji Wrote: [ -> ]This one's metal fusion
my parts:
facebolt: gasher,Virgo,Leone,bull
energy ring: Leone,virgo,bull,gasher,saggitario,L-Drago
Fusion wheelark(2),Earth,rock,flame,lightning
spin track:gasher's,145,H145,GB145,100,C145
performance tip:HF,FS,SD,BS,WB,S
If you could make a combo out of that, I'll thank you until I'm 54!
Lightning L Drago (Multi) C145FS
Lightning on Multi to increase probability of elastic collision + left spin to further increase chance of elastic collision when the oppsing beyblade is right spin.
C145 for mass to aid the increase of force and friction.
FS for flexible and fluid changes in friction.
(Jan. 05, 2011 10:53 PM)BladeStorm Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 05, 2011 10:46 PM)Rejji Wrote: [ -> ]This one's metal fusion
my parts:
facebolt: gasher,Virgo,Leone,bull
energy ring: Leone,virgo,bull,gasher,saggitario,L-Drago
Fusion wheelark(2),Earth,rock,flame,lightning
spin track:gasher's,145,H145,GB145,100,C145
performance tip:HF,FS,SD,BS,WB,S
If you could make a combo out of that, I'll thank you until I'm 54!
Lightning L Drago (Multi) C145FS
Lightning on Multi to increase probability of elastic collision + left spin to further increase chance of elastic collision when the oppsing beyblade is right spin.
C145 for mass to aid the increase of force and friction.
FS for flexible and fluid changes in friction.
I see and understand why you think Multi-Hit mode would be better. But Upper-Attack mode has been proven to be a better choice. Knocking the opposing Beyblade off balance with Upper-Attack will give a better chance of beating the opposing Beyblade before you run out of Stamina.
I don't believe in Upper Attack/Smash Attack/Force Smash. They are all Elastic collisions in a different vector.
i need a defence combo i have saggitario, pices, pegasus, ldrago, bull, virgo, leone, 2 metal facebolts, aires, orso, libra i know to use a metal face bolt iwant it to be heavy and have low recoil so im using earth wheel
(Jan. 05, 2011 11:14 PM)metalfaceblader Wrote: [ -> ]i need a defence combo i have saggitario, pices, pegasus, ldrago, bull, virgo, leone, 2 metal facebolts, aires, orso, libra i know to use a metal face bolt iwant it to be heavy and have low recoil so im using earth wheel
MF Earth Bull GB145RF
so do u have spin tracks and tips?
(Jan. 05, 2011 11:17 PM)scipio132 Wrote: [ -> ]so do u have spin tracks and tips?
I assume he has the respective hasbro counterparts.
(Jan. 05, 2011 11:16 PM)BladeStorm Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 05, 2011 11:14 PM)metalfaceblader Wrote: [ -> ]i need a defence combo i have saggitario, pices, pegasus, ldrago, bull, virgo, leone, 2 metal facebolts, aires, orso, libra i know to use a metal face bolt iwant it to be heavy and have low recoil so im using earth wheel
MF Earth Bull GB145RF
wtf rf what are you thinking