hell bull 230HF/S

H8R · Feb. 15, 2011 3:52 PM

I recently just tested a combo called Hell Bull 230HF/S (S mode) and it brought some great results!
equipment used :
MFB ATTACK STADIUM
Beylauncher with grip and grip rubber
MF-H Hell Bull 230HF/S VS MF Burn Bull DF145WD:
Hell Bull: 7 wins
Burn Bull: 3 wins

MF-HHell Bull 230HF/S VS MF Earth Bull C145WB:
Hell: 6 wins
Earth:4 wins

MF-H Hell Bull 230HF/S VS MF Screw Unicorno 85RF:
Hell: 6 wins
Screw:5 wins

Hell Bull 230HF/S VS Gravity Perseus D125RF:
Hell: 7 wins
Gravity: 4 wins

As you can see from the results it has a lot of potential and has some trouble with the screw wheel but destroys all other attackers. more testing should be done before anything is said about this combo!

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Electric · Feb. 15, 2011 3:57 PM

10-11 tests for this combo is merely not enough. Please test more. Also, 230 as an Attack track is an absurd thought, The plastic will just hit the metal? Can you also show a video, Or picture to prove that you have the items aforementioned by you.

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Accel · Feb. 15, 2011 4:04 PM

actually he didnt say it was meant to be an attack combo, he juz said it was tested in an attack stadium and that it defeated the attack combos.

regardless, more testing needed especially against top tier combos..checking the competitive combos and tier listing thread should give an idea of what to test it against.

EDIT: and yes, inclusion of videos would be preferred.

owh...dis aint too good :P

Electric · Feb. 15, 2011 4:06 PM

(Feb. 15, 2011 4:04 PM)Accel Wrote: actually he didnt say it was meant to be an attack combo, he juz said it was tested in an attack stadium and that it defeated the attack combos.

regardless, more testing needed especially against top tier combos..checking the competitive combos and tier listing thread should give an idea of what to test it against.

EDIT: and yes, inclusion of videos would be preferred.

Hf/s is in attack mode right?
EDIT: HF mode, not attack mode. Even though they are the same thing.

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Accel · Feb. 15, 2011 4:24 PM

haha, not necessarily. for all we know he might be using it in S mode..lolz..he didnt mention anyway.
if indeed he did use attack mode, that would be unheard of Confused

EDIT: oh and one more thing, a thread on "230 track discussions"is here, so this thread would likely be moved or carped sometime soon, because this also deals with the 230 track..although i could be wrong..

owh...dis aint too good :P

View All Faces · Feb. 15, 2011 4:36 PM

230 Metagame counter: MF-H Hell BD145CS.
Now your 230 is gone.

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Stratus G. · Feb. 15, 2011 4:44 PM

(Feb. 15, 2011 4:36 PM)ControL_ Wrote: 230 Metagame counter: MF-H Hell BD145CS.
Now your 230 is gone.

Results Vs. This Custom To Prove Your Point,Please.

(Feb. 15, 2011 3:57 PM)Electric Wrote: Also, 230 as an Attack track is an absurd thought, The plastic will just hit the metal?

Use The Opponents Recoil Against Them.

X1 · Feb. 15, 2011 4:46 PM

(Feb. 15, 2011 4:36 PM)ControL_ Wrote: 230 Metagame counter: MF-H Hell BD145CS.
Now your 230 is gone.

Also In "Boost" Mode.

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Electric · Feb. 15, 2011 4:46 PM

(Feb. 15, 2011  4:44 PM)Stratus G. Wrote:
(Feb. 15, 2011  4:36 PM)ControL_ Wrote: 230 Metagame counter: MF-H Hell BD145CS.
Now your 230 is gone.

Results Vs. This Custom To Prove Your Point,Please.

(Feb. 15, 2011  3:57 PM)Electric Wrote: Also, 230 as an Attack track is an absurd thought, The plastic will just hit the metal?

Use The Opponents Recoil Against Them.

Hmm... Well, But still I stand by my saying, 230 as an attack track sucks, I'll stick to 85 or 145.

Signature was too large. Read the rules.

View All Faces · Feb. 15, 2011 4:50 PM

(Feb. 15, 2011 4:46 PM)X1 Wrote:
(Feb. 15, 2011 4:36 PM)ControL_ Wrote: 230 Metagame counter: MF-H Hell BD145CS.
Now your 230 is gone.

Also In "Boost" Mode.

Either works. Flame instead of Hell works...

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Hero · Feb. 15, 2011 5:00 PM

Somethings wrong. There's no metal faces in any combo used to test your custom.

View All Faces · Feb. 15, 2011 5:01 PM

Yes add a MF-H and your made it "better".

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Otsu · Feb. 15, 2011 6:17 PM

I think the reason he picked the hf/s track is because it is the tallest performance tip in beyblade. So 230 + hf/s = really tall.

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View All Faces · Feb. 15, 2011 8:56 PM

There is no reason to use 230HF/S over 230CS ... and using 230 for Attack is silly.

(Feb. 15, 2011  4:50 PM)ControL_ Wrote:
(Feb. 15, 2011  4:46 PM)X1 Wrote:
(Feb. 15, 2011  4:36 PM)ControL_ Wrote: 230 Metagame counter: MF-H Hell BD145CS.
Now your 230 is gone.

Also In "Boost" Mode.
Either works. Flame instead of Hell works...

Anyone can test if you want, you'll get 100% win rates.

Against 230 what? 230WD? 230CS?

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Raijin · Feb. 15, 2011 8:59 PM

Where's MF on Gravity Perseus!?

Poseidon · Feb. 15, 2011 9:16 PM

use top tier combos

Look at this (Click to View)

Ga' · Feb. 15, 2011 11:37 PM

(Feb. 15, 2011 3:52 PM)bigbangblaze Wrote: I recently just tested a combo called Hell Bull 230HF/S and it brought some great results!
equipment used :
MFB ATTACK STADIUM
Beylauncher with grip and grip rubber
Hell Bull 230HF/S VS Burn Bull DF145(meh, AD145)WD:
Hell Bull: 7 wins
Burn Bull: 3 wins

Hell Bull 230HF/S VS (MF-H needed)Earth Bull GB145RS<--- Actually top tier:
Hell: 6 wins
Earth: 4 wins

Hell Bull 230HF/S VS (MF needed) Vulcan<---top tier, Screw is meh Unicorno 85R2F:
Hell: 6 wins
Screw: 5 wins

Hell Bull 230HF/S VS (MF needed) Gravity Perseus D125RF:
Hell: 7 wins
Gravity: 4 wins
You had 2 tests with 10 rounds and 2 with 11. What's up with that?

My comments are in the quote. And I replaced your bad parts with what you should have tested against.

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Hov · Feb. 15, 2011 11:50 PM

(Feb. 15, 2011  8:56 PM)Kei Wrote: There is no reason to use 230HF/S over 230CS ... and using 230 for Attack is silly.

(Feb. 15, 2011  4:50 PM)ControL_ Wrote:
(Feb. 15, 2011  4:46 PM)X1 Wrote:
(Feb. 15, 2011  4:36 PM)ControL_ Wrote: 230 Metagame counter: MF-H Hell BD145CS.
Now your 230 is gone.

Also In "Boost" Mode.
Either works. Flame instead of Hell works...

Anyone can test if you want, you'll get 100% win rates.

Against 230 what? 230WD? 230CS?

Uhm no? You never realy know actually. Like when 145 H145 CH120 and other high tracks were used to defense. 230 CAN be an attack track based on the hieght and the thingy. =P so don't start assuming.

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View All Faces · Feb. 16, 2011 2:10 AM

(Feb. 15, 2011 11:50 PM)Rotation Wrote: Uhm no? You never realy know actually. Like when 145 H145 CH120 and other high tracks were used to defense. 230 CAN be an attack track based on the hieght and the thingy. =P so don't start assuming.

I am not assuming. Look at Fyuuor's Attack results here: http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-230-Track-Discussion

Yes, it can be used in an Attack custom, but does that mean it will be effective? No.

jfifthb · Feb. 16, 2011 2:58 AM

@bigbangblaze you should try your bey against screw unicorno 85sf the great destabalizer

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H8R · Feb. 16, 2011 6:46 AM

okay to clear things out it was in S mode obviously and check my youtube channel to see that i have all of these beys i just made unboxings on them! and the reason i used HF/S is because its the tallest bottom so far and it would do better than cs i used hell because of its weight prvoiding more stamina

alright look at the op again i did the editing!

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NitroNeo · Feb. 16, 2011 12:06 PM

Please test your combo against MF Burn Bull 145 SD , WD loses stamina quickly , & you are increasing the height of the bey too much at this rate any MF Flame Bull / Aquario 135 / D125 / 105 WB / SF / FS / XF will easily destabilize hell bull 230HF/S , maybe this is just me but i really think the height is too big

please post the results if possible , against MF Burn Bull 145 SD & the destabilizer combo i mentioned

Thank you

View All Faces · Feb. 16, 2011 8:14 PM

(Feb. 16, 2011 6:46 AM)bigbangblaze Wrote: and the reason i used HF/S is because its the tallest bottom so far and it would do better than cs

Yes, it is the tallest Bottom, but that does not automatically mean that it is useful. S mode of HF/S has much poorer balance than CS does.

H8R · Feb. 17, 2011 1:09 PM

OK i will do some testing with CS and test against all the combos u asked me to!

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12345jacob12345 · Feb. 19, 2011 5:46 PM

(Feb. 15, 2011 6:17 PM)Otsu Wrote: I think the reason he picked the hf/s track is because it is the tallest performance tip in beyblade. So 230 + hf/s = really tall.

no its not, its like the same height as rf maybe even smaller