I did a test to see which 1 is better.
Beylauncher L used
stadium BALANCE STADIUM
combo : mf lightning l-drago 100 sd/wd

I made a combo BAD for stamina so it wont last too long XD savin time

SD SPIN TIMES
1. 2:46
2. 2:44
3. 2:55
4. 2:50
5. 2:56
6. 2:48
7. 3:00
8. 2:45
9. 3:01
10. 2:51

I DONT KNOW HOW TO PUT IN PERCENTAGE SO ILL ADD IT UP

= 28:36

WD SPIN TIMES:

1. 2:33
2. 3:03
3. 3:05
4. 2:48
5. 2:44
6. 2:52
7. 2:55
8. 2:31
9. 2:40
10. 3:01

= 27:02


STORM PEGASIS100SD VS STORM PEGASIS100WD

beylauncher used (i launched wd first, then sd, then wd and so on)
stadium BALANCE STADIUM
if there was a ko, i redid it since it was about stamina

1. SD won
2. SD (KO) redone, SD won
3. WD (KO) redone, SD won
4. WD (KO) redone, SD won
5. SD won
6. SD won
7. SD won
8. WD won
9. SD won
10. SD won

SD (stamina) WIN RATE = 90%
WD (stamina) WIN RATE =10%

SO that settles it, THE WAR IS OVER, THE BEST STAMINA TIP IS SD unless some other tip is released.

NOTE: (if the time thing is wrong, im sorry) its hard since the ten second column cant be higher than 5.

hmm what condition were they both in? if one was used more then the other before you did this testing then the test are off

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You're missing a very important detail, which stadium was this test conducted in?

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Firstly if you were to choose SD over WD on 230, you're bonkers. Even D scrapes and SD just plummets underground. SD obviously spins longer, it produces less friction.
Solo spins is for fun, it means nothing.

Earth based metagame stamina spin around 2 mins 45.
Burn based metagame stamina spin around 4 mins 30.

But Earth still beats Burn.

There is more to be said. SD is only "better" in certain circumstances.

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Firstly if you were to choose SD over WD on 230, you're bonkers. Even D scrapes and SD just plummets underground. SD obviously spins longer, it produces less friction.
Solo spins is for fun, it means nothing.

Earth based metagame stamina spin around 2 mins 45.
Burn based metagame stamina spin around 4 mins 30.

But Earth still beats Burn.

There is more to be said. SD is only "better" in certain circumstances.

this test was just to see which has most stamina.
People kept saying they they were equal, so i did a test

......I think we all knew SD had more stamina, it just has a tiny bit more IIRC, that either one can be used.

It really comes down to personal preference when deciding whether to use SD or WD because they are so closely matched. For pure Stamina it impossible to tell which would win a given match, but WD would prepare you for more situations by being able to take hits better than SD. Test both and decide for yourself which one works best for what you are trying to do.

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How about you actual test a good stamina instead of these random weird ones? Also i'm not believing this for a second cause it's general knowledge that WD is better and your testing doesn't use any top tier stamina combos.

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How about you actual test a good stamina instead of these random weird ones? Also i'm not believing this for a second cause it's general knowledge that WD is better and your testing doesn't use any top tier stamina combos.

wd may be better for defense since it gives off a bit more friction

But sd is better for stamina. if u dont believe me u go test it out. dont go all accusing.

u go try it, i swear, u just go and get owned, GOT IT?

Hmm, lemme make a list of what is wrong with these tests that make them invalid:

Balance stadium
Mf lightning l drago 100 sd/wd
Storm Pegasis 100 sd vs storm Pegasis 100 wd (recoil makes a big difference)


I'm not complaining about the legitimacy of these tests, just That they're inaccurate.
To prove this, you need to use top tier combos, both have exact parts from exact manufacturer, and you need solo spin, and battles between the two.
And an attack stadium.

Look, WD is often considered better for it's ability to stay balanced. SD gets destabilized much easier. Thus, WD is used more often. You still need an attack stadium, and you need to test them head to head. As most have already said, Solo Spintime means nothing in a real battle. Point in case: Rock. Has a great Solo Spintime, but is useless for stamina.

Seriously this again?

SD= higher spin rate, less wobble
WD= lower spin rate, more wobble

stamina? I'd say OPTIMAL results will differ with the many variables that occur when battling... there is NO "best" between these two...

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It depends on the condition, what bey your using it on and how hard you pull the ripcord/string. I prefer wd as it wobbles less.

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It depends on the condition, what bey your using it on and how hard you pull the ripcord/string. I prefer wd as it wobbles less.

It wobbles more because it has a larger surface area. If I word it correctly, I guess I should say it wobbles on a larger angle than SD.

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It depends on the condition, what bey your using it on and how hard you pull the ripcord/string. I prefer wd as it wobbles less.

It wobbles more because it has a larger surface area. If I word it correctly, I guess I should say it wobbles on a larger angle than SD.

Silly me, thats what I wanted to say. So when the beys both almost out of stamina wd has the advantage.

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I say PD outclasses them both.
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-PD-discussion

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I say PD outclasses them both.
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-PD-discussion

But wd can wobble more like Nojo294 wrote. Edit- also pd can be knocked out easier.

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True, but this threads tests were tip vs. tip, and the posted threads tests show that PD beat them both, and It's still harder to KO then SD. I would personally choose this over WD or SD in a tournament setting if it was available to me.

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True, but this threads tests were tip vs. tip, and the posted threads tests show that PD beat them both, and It's still harder to KO then SD. I would personally choose this over WD or SD in a tournament setting if it was available to me.

It also depends on what bey your using and what is it against. But we are deciding what is better bewteen wd and sd and not bewteen them and pd.

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It clearly doesn't. The fact that it pretty much crushed SD and WD is not coincidence. Also who cares if it's easier to knock out? That has nothing to do with it's stamina.

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Also who cares if it's easier to knock out? That has nothing to do with it's stamina.

No one uses stamina against attack beys unless they are extremely foolish, or can perform miracles continuously, so PD should be the best STAMINA tip in theory... of course, life is always different.

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SD is better but WD is better in serious conditions like the final phrase of the battle

Let me do my testing..
Earth Bull 145 WD V.S. Earth Bull 145 SD
I'll use an attack stadium, beyblauncher , launcher grip + rubber for both. Alternating shots.

Firstly, Stamina V.S. Stamina. Earth bull 145 sd/wd. Alternative shots, same launcher: beylauncher, Grip, and rubber.
SD = Semi defense tip, WD= Wide defense tip. LD/LLD = MF Lightning LDrago CH120 RF , OS = out spin SO or KO (im used to saying ko) = stadium out. T/ = Tie, redone.
SD V.S. WD

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1.sd- os
2. sd - os (close)
3. SD - os
4. WD -OS
5.SD -OS (close)
6.SD-OS
7.WD- OS
8.SD- OS
9. SD- OS
10. WD- OS
SD- 70%, WD 30%

SD V.S. Attack combo, MF LLDrago CH120 RF (please note that attack types aren't my specialty.)

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1.sd-os
2sd-os
3ld- ko
4sd-os
5 sd-ko
6ld- ko
7 ld- ko
8ld- ko
9 sd -os
10 ld -ko
11 ld- ko
12 ld - ko
13 T/ ld - ko
14 ld -ko
15 sd- os

LDrago 60% SD 40 % (Darn lucky walls x.x)

WD V.S. LLD

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1. LD - ko
2 T/ WD OS
3 T/ LD KO
4 LD KO
5 LD KO
6 LD KO
7 WD OS
8 LD - OS (it kept attacking until bull just died and fell over)
9 WD OS
10 WD OS
11 LD KO
12 LD KO
13 LD KO
14 WD/ OS (plenty of wall saves -.-".. once again, im not good with attack types.)
15 LD -KO

LLD 66% WD 34%

SD is...better for me.

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It clearly doesn't. The fact that it pretty much crushed SD and WD is not coincidence. Also who cares if it's easier to knock out? That has nothing to do with it's stamina.

This kinda answered this whole thread. They are on-par, and PD kills them both.

Even if two stamina beys are going at it, there is always a certain amount of attack involved. Each bottom has a different amount of recoil and will tilt/wobble differently. It's always best to pair its reaction with the appropriate wheel.

Also depends on your launch. If you can launch effectively, you can achieve different results with each tip.