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Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - TylerPT - Feb. 13, 2011
I did a test to see which 1 is better.
Beylauncher L used
stadium BALANCE STADIUM
combo : mf lightning l-drago 100 sd/wd
I made a combo BAD for stamina so it wont last too long XD savin time
SD SPIN TIMES
1. 2:46
2. 2:44
3. 2:55
4. 2:50
5. 2:56
6. 2:48
7. 3:00
8. 2:45
9. 3:01
10. 2:51
I DONT KNOW HOW TO PUT IN PERCENTAGE SO ILL ADD IT UP
= 28:36
WD SPIN TIMES:
1. 2:33
2. 3:03
3. 3:05
4. 2:48
5. 2:44
6. 2:52
7. 2:55
8. 2:31
9. 2:40
10. 3:01
= 27:02
STORM PEGASIS100SD VS STORM PEGASIS100WD
beylauncher used (i launched wd first, then sd, then wd and so on)
stadium BALANCE STADIUM
if there was a ko, i redid it since it was about stamina
1. SD won
2. SD (KO) redone, SD won
3. WD (KO) redone, SD won
4. WD (KO) redone, SD won
5. SD won
6. SD won
7. SD won
8. WD won
9. SD won
10. SD won
SD (stamina) WIN RATE = 90%
WD (stamina) WIN RATE =10%
SO that settles it, THE WAR IS OVER, THE BEST STAMINA TIP IS SD unless some other tip is released.
NOTE: (if the time thing is wrong, im sorry) its hard since the ten second column cant be higher than 5.
RE: SD OR WD? TIME TO END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL! - lord Wolfblade - Feb. 13, 2011
hmm what condition were they both in? if one was used more then the other before you did this testing then the test are off
RE: SD OR WD? TIME TO END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL! - Hero - Feb. 13, 2011
You're missing a very important detail, which stadium was this test conducted in?
RE: SD OR WD? TIME TO END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL! - ControL_ - Feb. 13, 2011
Firstly if you were to choose SD over WD on 230, you're bonkers. Even D scrapes and SD just plummets underground. SD obviously spins longer, it produces less friction.
Solo spins is for fun, it means nothing.
Earth based metagame stamina spin around 2 mins 45.
Burn based metagame stamina spin around 4 mins 30.
But Earth still beats Burn.
There is more to be said. SD is only "better" in certain circumstances.
RE: SD OR WD? TIME TO END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL! - TylerPT - Feb. 13, 2011
(Feb. 13, 2011 11:22 PM)ControL_ Wrote: Firstly if you were to choose SD over WD on 230, you're bonkers. Even D scrapes and SD just plummets underground. SD obviously spins longer, it produces less friction.
Solo spins is for fun, it means nothing.
Earth based metagame stamina spin around 2 mins 45.
Burn based metagame stamina spin around 4 mins 30.
But Earth still beats Burn.
There is more to be said. SD is only "better" in certain circumstances.
this test was just to see which has most stamina.
People kept saying they they were equal, so i did a test
RE: SD OR WD? TIME TO END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL! - Zeox - Feb. 13, 2011
......I think we all knew SD had more stamina, it just has a tiny bit more IIRC, that either one can be used.
It really comes down to personal preference when deciding whether to use SD or WD because they are so closely matched. For pure Stamina it impossible to tell which would win a given match, but WD would prepare you for more situations by being able to take hits better than SD. Test both and decide for yourself which one works best for what you are trying to do.
From the Beywiki.
Edit
lus, I think you are blowing this way out of proportion. War? There really was no war lol
RE: SD OR WD? TIME TO END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL! - Ultra - Feb. 13, 2011
How about you actual test a good stamina instead of these random weird ones? Also i'm not believing this for a second cause it's general knowledge that WD is better and your testing doesn't use any top tier stamina combos.
RE: SD OR WD? TIME TO END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL! - TylerPT - Feb. 13, 2011
(Feb. 13, 2011 11:44 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: How about you actual test a good stamina instead of these random weird ones? Also i'm not believing this for a second cause it's general knowledge that WD is better and your testing doesn't use any top tier stamina combos.
wd may be better for defense since it gives off a bit more friction
But sd is better for stamina. if u dont believe me u go test it out. dont go all accusing.
u go try it, i swear, u just go and get owned, GOT IT?
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Shabalabadoo - Feb. 14, 2011
Hmm, lemme make a list of what is wrong with these tests that make them invalid:
Balance stadium
Mf lightning l drago 100 sd/wd
Storm Pegasis 100 sd vs storm Pegasis 100 wd (recoil makes a big difference)
I'm not complaining about the legitimacy of these tests, just That they're inaccurate.
To prove this, you need to use top tier combos, both have exact parts from exact manufacturer, and you need solo spin, and battles between the two.
And an attack stadium.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Temporal - Feb. 14, 2011
Look, WD is often considered better for it's ability to stay balanced. SD gets destabilized much easier. Thus, WD is used more often. You still need an attack stadium, and you need to test them head to head. As most have already said, Solo Spintime means nothing in a real battle. Point in case: Rock. Has a great Solo Spintime, but is useless for stamina.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Nojo294 - Feb. 14, 2011
Seriously this again?
SD= higher spin rate, less wobble
WD= lower spin rate, more wobble
stamina? I'd say OPTIMAL results will differ with the many variables that occur when battling... there is NO "best" between these two...
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Pikachu0909 - Feb. 14, 2011
It depends on the condition, what bey your using it on and how hard you pull the ripcord/string. I prefer wd as it wobbles less.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Nojo294 - Feb. 14, 2011
(Feb. 14, 2011 6:55 AM)pikachu0909 Wrote: It depends on the condition, what bey your using it on and how hard you pull the ripcord/string. I prefer wd as it wobbles less.
It wobbles more because it has a larger surface area. If I word it correctly, I guess I should say it wobbles on a larger angle than SD.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Pikachu0909 - Feb. 14, 2011
(Feb. 14, 2011 6:57 AM)Nojo294 Wrote:(Feb. 14, 2011 6:55 AM)pikachu0909 Wrote: It depends on the condition, what bey your using it on and how hard you pull the ripcord/string. I prefer wd as it wobbles less.
It wobbles more because it has a larger surface area. If I word it correctly, I guess I should say it wobbles on a larger angle than SD.
Silly me, thats what I wanted to say. So when the beys both almost out of stamina wd has the advantage.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - xXKaiouyaXx - Feb. 14, 2011
I say PD outclasses them both.
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-PD-discussion
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Pikachu0909 - Feb. 14, 2011
(Feb. 14, 2011 7:39 AM)xXKaiouyaXx Wrote: I say PD outclasses them both.
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-PD-discussion
But wd can wobble more like Nojo294 wrote. Edit- also pd can be knocked out easier.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - xXKaiouyaXx - Feb. 14, 2011
True, but this threads tests were tip vs. tip, and the posted threads tests show that PD beat them both, and It's still harder to KO then SD. I would personally choose this over WD or SD in a tournament setting if it was available to me.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Pikachu0909 - Feb. 14, 2011
(Feb. 14, 2011 7:56 AM)xXKaiouyaXx Wrote: True, but this threads tests were tip vs. tip, and the posted threads tests show that PD beat them both, and It's still harder to KO then SD. I would personally choose this over WD or SD in a tournament setting if it was available to me.
It also depends on what bey your using and what is it against. But we are deciding what is better bewteen wd and sd and not bewteen them and pd.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Ultra - Feb. 14, 2011
It clearly doesn't. The fact that it pretty much crushed SD and WD is not coincidence. Also who cares if it's easier to knock out? That has nothing to do with it's stamina.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Nojo294 - Feb. 15, 2011
(Feb. 14, 2011 12:31 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: Also who cares if it's easier to knock out? That has nothing to do with it's stamina.
No one uses stamina against attack beys unless they are extremely foolish, or can perform miracles continuously, so PD should be the best STAMINA tip in theory... of course, life is always different.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - MysticBlader - Feb. 22, 2011
SD is better but WD is better in serious conditions like the final phrase of the battle
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - DreadXIII - Feb. 22, 2011
Let me do my testing..
Earth Bull 145 WD V.S. Earth Bull 145 SD
I'll use an attack stadium, beyblauncher , launcher grip + rubber for both. Alternating shots.
Firstly, Stamina V.S. Stamina. Earth bull 145 sd/wd. Alternative shots, same launcher: beylauncher, Grip, and rubber.
SD = Semi defense tip, WD= Wide defense tip. LD/LLD = MF Lightning LDrago CH120 RF , OS = out spin SO or KO (im used to saying ko) = stadium out. T/ = Tie, redone.
SD V.S. WD
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SD is...better for me.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Temporal - Feb. 22, 2011
(Feb. 14, 2011 12:31 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: It clearly doesn't. The fact that it pretty much crushed SD and WD is not coincidence. Also who cares if it's easier to knock out? That has nothing to do with it's stamina.
This kinda answered this whole thread. They are on-par, and PD kills them both.
RE: Whats best for stamina? SD OR WD!!! LETS END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL - Deikailo - Feb. 22, 2011
Even if two stamina beys are going at it, there is always a certain amount of attack involved. Each bottom has a different amount of recoil and will tilt/wobble differently. It's always best to pair its reaction with the appropriate wheel.
Also depends on your launch. If you can launch effectively, you can achieve different results with each tip.