Vari Ares Discussion

Currently yes, Chups. Do you own it? You should get it, and help us test, or post different/various things...

Anyways, I really want tried H145. My H145 broke recently, and My VariAres couldn't use that... hah.
Not have it yet but it's already about a week into shipping so I should most likely have it late next week. Smile
I would be more than happy.
SW145 may be viable here, it shares variares symmetry, and generally works nicely for attack in similar situations. That said, r145 usually works better than that and h145
I was suggesting that next, because I was thinking it had less recoil.

Someone should try that, but I was afraid no one owned it.
Hrm, well I suggested UW145 a while back, and SW145 seems similar. But the idea of the three prongs is pretty much the key here right?
why not just stick w/ the basic tracks 85/90/100/105/d/t125/145?
How would that guess us anywhere?

We've done 85 which outclasses 90/100/105.. T125? CH120 is better...
The best tracks to test with attack are: 85/CH120/D125/S130/BD145/R145/TH170
Here I got some some test results

BB-10 Attack Stadium
3 Segment Launcher Grip+LL2 for Basalt Custom
Launcher Grip+LL3 for VariAres Custom
Worn CS, Slightly aggressive
Slightly Worn RF
Basalt Custom Shot first

VariAres 85RF vs MF-M Basalt Aquario GB145CS
VariAres 85RF: 8 wins
Basalt Aquario: 2 wins
VariAres Win %: 80%

EDIT: Left Spin VariAres
(Aug. 13, 2011  10:57 PM)BeyCenter Wrote: Here I got some some test results

BB-10 Attack Stadium
3 Segment Launcher Grip+LL2 for Basalt Custom
Launcher Grip+LL3 for VariAres Custom
Worn CS, Slightly aggressive
Slightly Worn RF
Basalt Custom Shot first

VariAres 85RF vs MF-M Basalt Aquario GB145CS
VariAres 85RF: 8 wins
Basalt Aquario: 2 wins
VariAres Win %: 80%

EDIT: Left Spin VariAres
Thanks for those tests, could you also do them exactly the same with the difference being you launching Basalt with the weak shoot? It will be interesting to compare results that aren't just Basalt BD145MB based with weak shooting.
Ok, I should try to do them today. And maybe even some other combos.
Make sure you don't launch too weak.

Is 85 gripping onto Basalt any good?
(Aug. 14, 2011  12:29 AM)BeyBladestation Wrote: Make sure you don't launch too weak.

Is 85 gripping onto Basalt any good?

I know.

85 is doing pretty good actually. I should be doing some other testins to.
Launching it 'too weak' would honestly just make it better and harder to KO.
Also, testing it against VariAres in left spin would be dumb, Vari will lose. But whatever..
I was going to say what ControL_ mentioned earlier on the spin stealing stuff.

BeyCenter, try Right if you can too.
I'll try Right today also.

Anyway, here are the results for weak launch.

All conditions are same except a weaker launch for Basalt Aquario GB145CS

Vari Ares 85RF (Left Spin) vs MF-M Basalt Aquario GB145CS

VariAres 85RF: 6 wins (4 KO,2 OS)
Basalt Aquario GB145CS: 4 wins
VariAres win %: 60%
EDIT: 7 Draws.
7 draws? I would have expected Vari Ares to fail due to the weak launch technique. This is Interesting Tongue_out
(Aug. 14, 2011  3:13 AM)RustyXD Wrote: I would have expected Vari Ares to fail due to the weak launch technique. This is Interesting Tongue_out

using weak launches increase spin equalizing
That's true, and VariAres has such bad balance it will give it up.

Guys I will have tests up [a lot] when I meet up with BeyCenter today or tomorrow.
How hard were you launching? 50% wouldn't cut it, Basalt would get torn. I'm talking 30% and maybe even 10 depending on how ferocious the attacker is. It will survive at 10% if you think otherwise.
(Aug. 14, 2011  3:53 AM)Dan Wrote: How hard were you launching? 50% wouldn't cut it, Basalt would get torn. I'm talking 30% and maybe even 10 depending on how ferocious the attacker is. It will survive at 10% if you think otherwise.

how is possible to measure 50, 30, or 10 percent of of one's launch power without some sort of hightech gear...
I did 30%, 90% for Vari. But Basalt did do better, although it is not much, by two more rounds than before.
You measure it yourself by your standards. It isn't a difficult task, just try it.
I did. 30% on my standards for basalt, 90% for vari. Will be testing right spin.