@HR8: I definitely agree.
Basalt falls prey to fierce Attack combos like LDD combos with XF,RF or LRF(As well as strong Stamina combos).
So people just need to keep on trying ingenious and ORIGINAL combos as well as having the psychological strength to use Atack combos.

Or, you know, Beat Lynx?
Why has everyone forgotten Beat? Damn it SonoKong release it!

oops sorry forgot about beat but I did say in my experience and I DONT have beat
But there is also Vari Ares..
IKR whats wrong with sonokong I had to buy 3 more RBV7's just now to get beat lynx (I have to wait for them now ... )
They haven't released any 4D beys IIRC

Dan could you suggest beat to the committee so they add it to the tiers list... seriously man it deserves a spot there...

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Guys I'll do what I can, which is essentially what I can test or get consistent confirmation on.
Also, Raigeko, were you talking to me? Beat is anything but overused ...

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Or, you know, Beat Lynx?
Why has everyone forgotten Beat? Damn it SonoKong release it!

I would say Beat its to risky in a tournament situation, I find it harder to get a flower pattern then any other attack wheel. That being said I planned to use it at Bey-Freeze but instead ended up using LDD which didn't turn out well so I used Scythe for the rest of the tourney.(With the exception of one round when I was up against LLDBD145RF , so i used Basalt TH170MF). I have actually never seen beat been used but , i doubt it will be used once sonokong release it.

Travisawesome : If you look through the customization forum you will see testing on all the new parts.

Maybe we should test the new beys that come out

yes, that COME OUT. Who knows how long it will be until a good beyblade that we can safely say beats Basalt but isn't overpowered comes out. Probably nowhere near soon enough and I don't want to have this argument on the beyblade that beats it and is way overpowered too. New bladers use Basalt as if it's they're most treasured and valued thing and the bladers who are experienced and NOT using Basalt are losing. And all of us know that wheels such as Beat Twisted and Blitz are some of the most rare wheels there are. We must rediscover something. EVERYTHING has a blind side. and that's where you get 'em.

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I hate playing on Peaceful. Makes me feel like a wimp.

guys, it's just underwear relax

It is not any new information that Australian price setting is absolutely ridiculous and completely asinine, and that it has literally nothing to do with the exchange rate.

Back on topic, folks.

LOL

YES

I typed about four sentences but backspaced them all because I don't know what to say to your nonsense anymore. So:

Ugh.

Why do you keep picking on everyone?

Seems like I'm the one being picked on by Michael.

IT'S CUTE

It looks way cooler in person. Well, they both do.

Okay.

Just don't misspell my favourite word again

I did not misspell kengareoo.

Personally, when I hear "let it rip", I automatically think of flatulating.

Yes, the World Beyblade Organization allows real Beyblading

B2D160?

Is no gonna answer my question?

Just wondering, is the LED sight any good? Like, does it help at all? Because I have a hard time aiming...

Not really. Use it to blind your opponent, like Kei does.

im too lazy to post.

Everytime I read "Shabalabadoo", my brain processes it as "Scoobydoobeedoo".

This is a true fact btw.

lol I think everyone does. Th!nk has shortened his name to Scooby Snacks.

Shortened?

Hey guys, my beyblade recently broke and I'm having a hard time getting
over it. We won many battles and never gave up. But Midnight Striker would want
me to move on. My new Bey is Midnight Virgo. I am still using the fusion wheel, spin track and performance tip. Just the facebolt broke. If you wanna battle let me know. I love blading and hope you guys too!


R.I.P Midnight Striker

Does mybb allow a user's thread to be edited by someone else by their permission? It will be trouble, for example, we hosted a tournament, a lot of people joined, and their not online, they will miss a few registrations.

No.

You're a... cat?

Call it Steve.

That's ridiculous. Kai-V cannot be a robot, shes Canadian. Canadians ride polar bears, drink maple syrup and walk their pet beavers. Daegor42, Kei and Kai-V are all neighbors; they live in modest sized igloos.

Take out the word speculation and you get the value of that post.

Solution: Use any track but ED145, because ED145 is bad.

oh noes guyz i can type

Ryuga can eat my hearts out no me gusta Ryuga nada...

My friend's found a Flame Sagittario C145 S, with crayon all over it and a claw missing from C145.

must be Kenta's he like's crayons, and Poisen Serpent broke his claws...

You would put all of that on a placard ?

i quit beyblade screw this carp

Well it isn't going to be a small propulsion jet now is it

I have received my death

...

It's a plastic model. You really don't want me to answer that question. rofl

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Food tastes good.

Rapidity = stupidity

By the way, this is my first tournament so go easy on me.

no problem brahh

"You all want to see stealth battlers"?
Hm...

Basalt = Rock
Rock = Throw it, and it hits hard
Hammer = Throw it, and it hits hard
simple!

Everytime I read "Shabalabadoo", my brain processes it as "Scoobydoobeedoo".

This is a true fact btw.

lol I think everyone does. Th!nk has shortened his name to Scooby Snacks.

Shortened?

If I am not mistaken, it means that when one passes, each individual they pass goes "ahh".

Bey-Capult ClayAries85S vs MF-H DiabloBullGB145RDF on this see-saw stadium.

Dream come true...

I take terrible pictures of myself.
When I smile I look goofy.
When I just look at the camera, it looks like I'm about to rip your soul out.
It's a lose/lose situation.

@Shabalabadidityderpaloooooooooo
HOW
WHAT
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT PHOTO OF ME?!
NO ONE WAS EVER SUPPOSED TO SEE THAT...
>>
*runs away forever*

Clark Kent is a nerd.

I'm Batman.

Has Kai-V ever shown her face?

No, never. She tends to sleep in self-made holes. She relocates every week or so, hanging around wi-fi cafes with large hats and a mask. She lives off of tops of used ice-cream lids and rather obese street cats. Check National Geographic daily for her whereabouts.
What exactly do you mean though?

YEAHHHH BIG BANG

If you need a banner for your website, call me in.

We'll shine the batman symbol for you.

Dude, here in Australia normal starters are like 15$ and boosters for about 8$.

Australia is a fraud.

The same way we encorporate giant glowing animals coming out of our tops into real life.

Is Kei ever actually to be afraid of?

Oh yes. You should.
Be fortunate you don't live here, under that meek and gentle persona lies a horrible monster. Very horrible. I cannot even describe it, no human could. Imagine the fiery pits of Hell Kerbecs' special move, LDrago's menacing power and then that thing Haku (Inuyasha) turns into. Nothing can douse the anger and raw power which at one point, Kei's dwindling willpower will be forced to unleashed. I expect all of Canada to be engulfed in EMP when Kei's true form is finally released. That is the day the world cannot save itself. That day. The monster shall be awakened and mankind is most definitely doomed. No octopus or even a Kai-V would stop him.

Don't you ever talk about it again.










Ever.

So, the Japanese saw it too. It is 230WD. I have very good visual memory, I still remember Valentin's father's credit card number.

Yeah, guns really care if you can break a board with your pinky or whatever.

You do kung-fu at a real armed robber and you're the dead guy being pulled out of your house on the six o'clock news with the subtitle "Unfortunate Youth Does a Dumb Thing".

Torch Gil M145Q. I've never lost with it.

Personally, I prefer, "3-2-1 HEY DO YOU WANNA SEE MY NEW CHAINSAW AND HOCKEY MASK!!!!!"

RYUGA WITH A SHOTGUN

I NEVER EAT WITH UTENSILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡

You see, in the equation E=mc2, the main component is the E=some variant of C2, which is Lightspeed multiplied upon itself. This means that energy is equal to lightspeed. Also, you must take into account the M part, which is mass. Due to these two existing in the same equation to determine energy spent, you must assume the original Lightspeed to be infinity, due to the impossibility to reach it by c2. As a result, it forces E to equal infinity also if one were to reach lightspeed. Of course, it also means that Mass would be infinity also. This is impossible, as infinity is not a number, it is a concept. If infinite mass is reached outside of light and black holes, the matter's opposite, called anti-matter, would have no choice but to have negative mass, which would mean NEGATIVE INFINITY! This results in both ceasing to exist, as that would require a fixed position in time-space, which is impossible, due to the expansion of the Universe. This is part of the idea that all things are positioned in relative space to the observer, which is why my version of "A long way" is different than yours. Seeing as the observer would then be in a fixed position with light in this case, they would both cease to exist, leaving the anti-matter behind. This is impossible. Of course, this is a theory, so it's not proven 100% truth. Yet. Right now, it's accepted as truth by most scientific figures.

I feel Basalt it too game controlling. What I mean by this is Basalt combos have a higher tendency of winning compared to any other metal wheel combo; Yet few combos are able to beat Basalt. For example, Tournaments in the Maryland area are mainly won by Basalt users and I wouldn't doubt any other state or country has any difference.

If Basalt was band or limited, Other combos other than Basalt Kerbex BD145CS would win. Thus creating more diversity in the beyblade metagame ; Even allowing more Attack types to be used.

Over all I feel Basalt should be limited to some combos to create SOME diversity in the metagame

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Honestly I used to think Basalt should not be banned but most of the time I read posts I think what should do the following
1)Either ban basalt for a limited time and lets see what happens then to balance the meta game
2)Limit the combos NO Bd145 with basalt because it is OP OR RS/CS with Basalt
In the Maryland beyblade melee one person let me Borrow his basalt and I was basically unstoppable I got pretty far not exactly sure what round but I think I to the 5th or 6th round in a double elimination tourny.I may not be the best in maryland but basalt Bd145 really did most of the work which leads to me saying BASALT AND BD145 TOGETHER IS OP.Before I could only beat 6 people in a tourny

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dont bann horogium i have him and i have 5 beys that can beat him bigbang pegasus l drago desrtoy fang leone and meteo l drago, also flame libra 100b
also the grand fusion wheel is almost just as good

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Grand is nothing good..also you must be using an uncustomized Basalt because my BBP can never KO or OS Basalt with the F:D tip...Flame Libra 100 B isn't too good either

first of all as for the flame libra 100b looks are deseaving number 2 my big bang i on smash atack mode and latly im usingbasalt horogium ed125ewd

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I now want it banned with a passion. The whole MW. Im actually so tired of it. After watching Blitz's Basalt free tourney my mind was changed completely. It's a better game in so many ways. MF LLD BD145RF cannot beat Basalt BD145. The plastic prevents it. A plastic to plastic collision is hardly ever going to end in a KO. I think the only thing to beat basalt BD145 is MLD CH120XF. On a good day, Beat. It is extremely underestimated. I don't think people understand HOW good this Beyblade is.

The winning combo's thread. Every single tourney either 1-3 is a Basalt combo. Even such simple combos such as an uncustomised basalt or slight variations are winning tournaments. I mean sure you could beat it if people had the guts to use an ATK type. But it is so simple to noobs get a Basalt and win? Tired of it.

MF-H Basalt Aquario BD145CS should be banned first. Can no one agree on that? Then we can work out other things.

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IMO MF-H Basalt Kerbecs TH170CS is better as that can beat Scythe BD145EDS confidently while the BD145 variant gets about 40-50% win rates. I also find that most attack types have a harder time against TH170.
In blitz's video people are just experimenting with attack since basalt's gone. after it is gone for a few months stamina will start being heavily used again.
Here are some of my honest thoughts on basalt

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Basalt is not over powered it is over used , there are lots of wheels that can beat it , but in a tournament situation they are not used enough , lets say there is a tournament of 24 people and 18 people use basalt there is an extremely high chance that a basalt combo will place.

If basalt is banned where does that leave scythe , since without basalt scythe will start to dominate , and once it becomes more widely available we will see more scythe combos winning tournaments.

Basalt does not dominate stamina since basalt stamina combos loose to Earth and Scythe stamina combos , Basalt BD145CS looses to LTSC and Scythe BD145EDS. Isn't defense supposed to beat attack? without basalt there will be so many attack wheels with no challenges such as LDD , Beat , Gravity , Lightning , Blitz and VariAres.

Rusty- True, but its been said countless times that no attack type will get overpowered/dominate.

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Yeah I know but I bring up the fact that when a new attack wheels is released? We would have to test against Libra and most attack wheels now'days get very high win rates against it so we won't be able to find out how good they are without basalt.

well attack wheels aren't really meant to "dominate" now are they??
tell me what the definition of the word dominate is (we already have basalt if we had another it would be terrible)..
Takara tries to keep the meta game(s) balanced and they have done a great job but they won't just come up with a wheel that would "dominate" the meta game it self (If that's what you mean)
we not only have one but 7 crazy wicked wheels that can kick a**.
if you want a metal wheel that dominates you already have basalt.
but now lots of wheels are available to us to beat it...
RustyXD
but that way wheels that are relatively great but bad against basalt would be great.....

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If Basalt is banned, I'm coming back to tournaments. That's all I'm gonna say.

Yeah I know but I bring up the fact that when a new attack wheels is released? We would have to test against Libra and most attack wheels now'days get very high win rates against it so we won't be able to find out how good they are without basalt.

It doesn't matter if they dominate in testing(which they mostly do). The only thing that matters is whether they dominate in tourneys which they completely don't and never will since on the whole members are not confident with attack types and as such don't use them.

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Yeah I know but I bring up the fact that when a new attack wheels is released? We would have to test against Libra and most attack wheels now'days get very high win rates against it so we won't be able to find out how good they are without basalt.

It doesn't matter if they dominate in testing(which they mostly do). The only thing that matters is whether they dominate in tourneys which they completely don't and never will since on the whole members are not confident with attack types and as such don't use them.

Yeah but how do we tell which is better? for example if beat got 100% win rates against Libra and so did blitz how would we know which one preforms better?

Well I think we should still test against Basalt but not use it in tourneys.

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Why Ban Basalt? What about bull? BUll is being used way more than Every clearwheel, and people don't complain about it. Its like a Bull Fest in all those tourneys.Basalt may maybe heavy and all but so is bull to. Just leave it in it.

You're kidding right? Clear wheels make bearly any difference.. Basalt dominates both stamina and defence.

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Why Ban Basalt? What about bull? BUll is being used way more than Every clearwheel, and people don't complain about it. Its like a Bull Fest in all those tourneys.Basalt may maybe heavy and all but so is bull to. Just leave it in it.

are u serious
Bull is a clear wheel
it doesn't do any major difference besides adding a few grams of weight
thats a stupid reason to not ban basalt
[EDIT] grr beaten by ultrablader

to the mods:
i think u guys should close this
there have been major spams of useless posts and utterly stupid reasons
and really in the end its up to u guys
i say close this thread and leave the discussion in the advanced fourm

the advance forum isn't always updated. so yeah.

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Well I think we should still test against Basalt but not use it in tourneys.

That is almost completely pointless. Why test against something you will never face? When you test, you are supposed to be realistic.

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If Basalt is banned, I'm coming back to tournaments. That's all I'm gonna say.

So you left because it is here? Sure says a lot about you and your skill...

Why Ban Basalt? What about bull? BUll is being used way more than Every clearwheel, and people don't complain about it. Its like a Bull Fest in all those tourneys.Basalt may maybe heavy and all but so is bull to. Just leave it in it.

are u serious
Bull is a clear wheel
it doesn't do any major difference besides adding a few grams of weight
thats a stupid reason to not ban basalt
[EDIT] grr beaten by ultrablader

to the mods:
i think u guys should close this
there have been major spams of useless posts and utterly stupid reasons
and really in the end its up to u guys
i say close this thread and leave the discussion in the advanced fourm

well if your so sure of it use Stamina And Defence combos with other clearwheels, against Bull. Even With Basalt than comeback and talk? It is not like Basalt is Almighty to. Its a certain Combo's that Work well not all Basalt Based Combo' s are a succes.