If DB took the best elements that the anime and manga has it would've been a chefs kiss series all together. This is my opinion.

You also have to account for all the filler, but I agree with what you’re saying. The manga was amazing in storyline.

Let me list what seasons are better anime or manga wise

S1 Burst: Anime
God: Anime
Cho-Z: Anime
GT: Anime
Sparking: Anime, but manga does implement Lain and Hyuga better
DB: Manga but anime does Ranzo and Basara better

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If DB took the best elements that the anime and manga has it would've been a chefs kiss series all together. This is my opinion.

I honestly don't understand why they did not just let Hiro Marutti direct the anime and manga also I agree with Dark Red that if burst was actually good story wise then they could've have kept things going for like another 3-4 seasons.

I feel like DB really messed up for Burst considering how the manga went. Honestly if they made Rashad and Bell how they are in the manga the anime would turn out much much better.

Wait and see guys..

At this point just stop if anyone else keeps getting off topic then just let them be after all I’m pretty sure the organizers can do there job and tel them to stop

See, this is why you my guy fr. I never understood why people care if someone goes off-topic in a thread. Like, just ignore them and let the organizers deal with them. They be adding more fuel to the fire by even responding.

ahh yes I miss these posts

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Here are my thoughts on anime vs manga:

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Burst was pretty 1 to 1 manga wise. They elaborated more heavily on some character development, but other than that, each plot point was executed almost identically. Except for the fact that they removed single layers. I still haven’t forgiven d-rights for that.

God had the same plot points, but the execution and direction did feel noticeably different from the manga at times. Lots of characters like Norman and Kurtz technically got actual screen time, but they still ended up being jobbers, so I’m not sure if that’s better or worse. The anime definitely went harder with Requiem’s creation, making an entire extending segment based on a simple key art (that’s now one of the most iconic scenes in the entire generation), but the manga’s final battle was amazing. I think it’s just because Hiro Morita can portray emotion so insanely well, even without voice acting. I still prefer the page of Shu screaming his lungs out to the anime full scene. Also, the manga had a prologue with extra closure for Shu, which left the ending feeling way more complete. Still can’t choose one over the other though.

I’m going to be completely transparent about Chozetsu, I could write an entire thread going over every anime to manga deviation and why I hate every single one, but long story short, the manga wins by a long shot. Each battle feels way more earned in the manga. This also ties into Aiga’s character arc feeling completely different. Aiga quickly rising in power and getting cocky only for his hopes to be dashed against the rocks by Valt, his biggest rival, was completely butchered. They also added the whole Dark Resonance plot line, which basically just functioned as a free power boost. Extra info for Phi and Hyde’s relationship is cool, but they still never did anything interesting with his character in the anime. In the manga he just exists as one of the many colorful stepping stones on the road to the top, but the anime wants you to respect him as a big bad, despite having 0 depth and be completely one note. The ending in the manga was also way better. Instead of Aiga somehow sweeping Valt with a Burst, it shows that they are evenly matched, which fits the power progression way better.

GT’s actually pretty good though. The manga does feel a bit different, but they still both individually have really good takes on each character that properly parallel each other, like a good adaption should have. I actually like the anime a bit more, just based on the virtue that Amane and Fubuki got better development, and the animation was consistently stellar.

Sparking’s kinda weird. If we’re going strictly off of the virtue of plot points, the manga sweeps by far. Hikaru, Hyuga, and Lane are some of the most compelling characters in the franchise, but each of them got insanely watered down. However, I really appreciate what the anime was going for. Before I forget the mention it, the animation was consistently amazing this season, even more so than GT. Almost every episode was pure eye candy, and this isn’t even going over the major battles. Hikaru and Hyuga still suck, their character arcs being removed was a travesty, but Lane actually still had some good development near the end (unfortunately he didn’t get proper closure like the manga though).

The anime added extra plot points in the Legends Festival and Legend Super Tag League. First of all, the Legends Festival is probably the most hype tournament in all of Beyblade. The only major glaring glaring flaw was the ending. The animation was god like, but I won’t even try to pretend like Lane’s win wasn’t utter folly. Despite that, everything else was amazing to watch. It was truly a moment you had to be there for, watching it live week to week is an experience I’ll never forget. The Tag League was way less hype, but it managed to do good by so many characters. The Festival was cool, but it didn’t showcase character growth like the Tag League did. I still really wish we got the manga ending though, however, I’m actually very happy with this season in retrospect.

DB’s anime was basically just some assorted plot points from the manga all watered down. I could rant about it like Chozetsu but at least that’s interesting. Almost every piece of actual character and development was removed, and the ending was undeniably worse, given that the manga had a tribute to the entirety of the Gen. Not to mention, the animation dropped in quality. Illya getting extra screen time was cool, but she did nothing in it. Illya made infinitely more impact for the story in Rashad’s character in the manga, despite appearing in about 3 panels. Obviously the manga wins here.

That’s about it from me. I would do this for Metal Fight too but I’ve only read up to the equivalent of season 1. The same major plot points people love the Metal Saga for are in both, big ups to Takafumi Adachi, but the anime added way for inter character relationships that made the story feel much more alive.

Anyways, that’s it from me.

Here are my thoughts on anime vs manga:

Spoiler (Click to View)

Burst was pretty 1 to 1 manga wise. They elaborated more heavily on some character development, but other than that, each plot point was executed almost identically. Except for the fact that they removed single layers. I still haven’t forgiven d-rights for that.

God had the same plot points, but the execution and direction did feel noticeably different from the manga at times. Lots of characters like Norman and Kurtz technically got actual screen time, but they still ended up being jobbers, so I’m not sure if that’s better or worse. The anime definitely went harder with Requiem’s creation, making an entire extending segment based on a simple key art (that’s now one of the most iconic scenes in the entire generation), but the manga’s final battle was amazing. I think it’s just because Hiro Morita can portray emotion so insanely well, even without voice acting. I still prefer the page of Shu screaming his lungs out to the anime full scene. Also, the manga had a prologue with extra closure for Shu, which left the ending feeling way more complete. Still can’t choose one over the other though.

I’m going to be completely transparent about Chozetsu, I could write an entire thread going over every anime to manga deviation and why I hate every single one, but long story short, the manga wins by a long shot. Each battle feels way more earned in the manga. This also ties into Aiga’s character arc feeling completely different. Aiga quickly rising in power and getting cocky only for his hopes to be dashed against the rocks by Valt, his biggest rival, was completely butchered. They also added the whole Dark Resonance plot line, which basically just functioned as a free power boost. Extra info for Phi and Hyde’s relationship is cool, but they still never did anything interesting with his character in the anime. In the manga he just exists as one of the many colorful stepping stones on the road to the top, but the anime wants you to respect him as a big bad, despite having 0 depth and be completely one note. The ending in the manga was also way better. Instead of Aiga somehow sweeping Valt with a Burst, it shows that they are evenly matched, which fits the power progression way better.

GT’s actually pretty good though. The manga does feel a bit different, but they still both individually have really good takes on each character that properly parallel each other, like a good adaption should have. I actually like the anime a bit more, just based on the virtue that Amane and Fubuki got better development, and the animation was consistently stellar.

Sparking’s kinda weird. If we’re going strictly off of the virtue of plot points, the manga sweeps by far. Hikaru, Hyuga, and Lane are some of the most compelling characters in the franchise, but each of them got insanely watered down. However, I really appreciate what the anime was going for. Before I forget the mention it, the animation was consistently amazing this season, even more so than GT. Almost every episode was pure eye candy, and this isn’t even going over the major battles. Hikaru and Hyuga still suck, their character arcs being removed was a travesty, but Lane actually still had some good development near the end (unfortunately he didn’t get proper closure like the manga though).

The anime added extra plot points in the Legends Festival and Legend Super Tag League. First of all, the Legends Festival is probably the most hype tournament in all of Beyblade. The only major glaring glaring flaw was the ending. The animation was god like, but I won’t even try to pretend like Lane’s win wasn’t  utter folly. Despite that, everything else was amazing to watch. It was truly a moment you had to be there for, watching it live week to week is an experience I’ll never forget. The Tag League was way less hype, but it managed to do good by so many characters. The Festival was cool, but it didn’t showcase character growth like the Tag League did. I still really wish we got the manga ending though, however, I’m actually very happy with this season in retrospect.

DB’s anime was basically just some assorted plot points from the manga all watered down. I could rant about it like Chouzetsu but at least that’s interesting. Almost every piece of actual character and development was removed, and the ending was undeniably worse, given that the manga had a tribute to the entirety of the Gen. Not to mention, the animation dropped in quality. Illya getting extra screen time was cool, but she did nothing in it. Illya made infinitely more impact for the story in Rashad’s character in the manga, despite appearing in about 3 panels. Obviously the manga wins here.

That’s about it from me. I would do this for Metal Fight too but I’ve only read up to the equivalent of season 1. The same major plot points people love the Metal Saga for are in both, big ups to Takafumi Adachi, but the anime added way for inter character relationships that made the story feel much more alive.

Anyways, that’s it from me.

I agree with some things, and others I don't. 

Chouzetsu's manga was kind of a mixed bag seeing Aiga beating everyone. In the anime however we see many indications of Aiga being under pressure, in doubt, and most of all; on a losing streak. After Leopard's destruction, this was a perfect way to convey Aiger's power-hungry dilemma and it was implemented very well. Now I will say the manga doing Z Achilles destruction was a little better with it being Valt destroying Achilles, but I still loved Phi doing it because it shows the irony that the same person that led Aiger to this dark path was the same person that freed him. It was very well done. 

Sparking's manga is only better with two things, Lane and Hyuga. Hikaru I don't mind in either he was amazing in both. Bringing some of the Legend's back in the manga was cool but I didn't enjoy the screen-time they had and it kind of made them coming back seem like a bluff. Also I disagree with the no development in the tournaments. Hyuga and Hikaru developed in a way while battling these Legends. In episode 25, not only was Hikaru fighting for himself, he fought more for his coach to show him how far he's gotten. Hikaru developed as a character. In episode 29, Hikaru comes up with a plan for Hyuga to win against Valt that takes him an entire night. Hikaru wants Hyuga to win so he wants him to follow the plan but Hyuga escapes and tells Hikaru, "I'm the one battling Valt not you." Hyuga then leaves Hikaru and goes to train with Honcho. Hyuga is having a hard time training with something on his mind and it's Hikaru. Honcho then goes on to say, "The only reason you're here is because of Hikaru." Hyuga then realizes that throughout their journey Hikaru has always been there for him. Hyuga goes back to Hikaru in compassion and follows on Hikaru's training regimen. We can even see Hikaru sacrifice himself for Hyuga in the battle against Lain the very next episode! Also in the battle Hyuga says, "I'm going to the final, together with Hikaru." This shows that Hyuga has developed. Tag League also developed character's very well but there's a lot to say about that so I'll just skip. 

Dynamite Battle's anime was a major letdown compared to what we got in the manga. It was sad to see the producer's not handle the animation well either. Not that it was downright horrible but just a complete digress to what phenomenal animation we got in previous seasons. Not even going to get into Bell and Rashad since I explained before that they were handled way better. O Jingu who was the director let many fans down with how DB went. I will say that Ranzo and Basara were done much better in the anime with inner conflicts and with those of the cast. Ranzo being with Bell and Basara being with Rashad and Bell. 

A question i've always pondered is that since Komi is over, do you think amazing animators like Ueda and Lee will come back for QuadStrike? One of the biggest reasons why QuadDrive didn't have as much great animation as GT and Sparking was because people like Lee, Ueda, and Fujimoto left for stuff like Komi and Chainsaw Man. Kawagoe the amazing director for Beyblade also left for Komi. But since it's over it might be a possibility that they come back. If OLM is willing to hire talented freelance or non freelance animators then QuadStrike will have amazing animation and could possibly be the best animated season in Burst.

One thing I will say is the animation and storyboarding in Burst is enough to make me tear up. Overall a criminally underrated series that more people need to watch.

Here are my thoughts on anime vs manga:

Spoiler (Click to View)

Burst was pretty 1 to 1 manga wise. They elaborated more heavily on some character development, but other than that, each plot point was executed almost identically. Except for the fact that they removed single layers. I still haven’t forgiven d-rights for that.

God had the same plot points, but the execution and direction did feel noticeably different from the manga at times. Lots of characters like Norman and Kurtz technically got actual screen time, but they still ended up being jobbers, so I’m not sure if that’s better or worse. The anime definitely went harder with Requiem’s creation, making an entire extending segment based on a simple key art (that’s now one of the most iconic scenes in the entire generation), but the manga’s final battle was amazing. I think it’s just because Hiro Morita can portray emotion so insanely well, even without voice acting. I still prefer the page of Shu screaming his lungs out to the anime full scene. Also, the manga had a prologue with extra closure for Shu, which left the ending feeling way more complete. Still can’t choose one over the other though.

I’m going to be completely transparent about Chozetsu, I could write an entire thread going over every anime to manga deviation and why I hate every single one, but long story short, the manga wins by a long shot. Each battle feels way more earned in the manga. This also ties into Aiga’s character arc feeling completely different. Aiga quickly rising in power and getting cocky only for his hopes to be dashed against the rocks by Valt, his biggest rival, was completely butchered. They also added the whole Dark Resonance plot line, which basically just functioned as a free power boost. Extra info for Phi and Hyde’s relationship is cool, but they still never did anything interesting with his character in the anime. In the manga he just exists as one of the many colorful stepping stones on the road to the top, but the anime wants you to respect him as a big bad, despite having 0 depth and be completely one note. The ending in the manga was also way better. Instead of Aiga somehow sweeping Valt with a Burst, it shows that they are evenly matched, which fits the power progression way better.

GT’s actually pretty good though. The manga does feel a bit different, but they still both individually have really good takes on each character that properly parallel each other, like a good adaption should have. I actually like the anime a bit more, just based on the virtue that Amane and Fubuki got better development, and the animation was consistently stellar.

Sparking’s kinda weird. If we’re going strictly off of the virtue of plot points, the manga sweeps by far. Hikaru, Hyuga, and Lane are some of the most compelling characters in the franchise, but each of them got insanely watered down. However, I really appreciate what the anime was going for. Before I forget the mention it, the animation was consistently amazing this season, even more so than GT. Almost every episode was pure eye candy, and this isn’t even going over the major battles. Hikaru and Hyuga still suck, their character arcs being removed was a travesty, but Lane actually still had some good development near the end (unfortunately he didn’t get proper closure like the manga though).

The anime added extra plot points in the Legends Festival and Legend Super Tag League. First of all, the Legends Festival is probably the most hype tournament in all of Beyblade. The only major glaring glaring flaw was the ending. The animation was god like, but I won’t even try to pretend like Lane’s win wasn’t  utter folly. Despite that, everything else was amazing to watch. It was truly a moment you had to be there for, watching it live week to week is an experience I’ll never forget. The Tag League was way less hype, but it managed to do good by so many characters. The Festival was cool, but it didn’t showcase character growth like the Tag League did. I still really wish we got the manga ending though, however, I’m actually very happy with this season in retrospect.

DB’s anime was basically just some assorted plot points from the manga all watered down. I could rant about it like Chouzetsu but at least that’s interesting. Almost every piece of actual character and development was removed, and the ending was undeniably worse, given that the manga had a tribute to the entirety of the Gen. Not to mention, the animation dropped in quality. Illya getting extra screen time was cool, but she did nothing in it. Illya made infinitely more impact for the story in Rashad’s character in the manga, despite appearing in about 3 panels. Obviously the manga wins here.

That’s about it from me. I would do this for Metal Fight too but I’ve only read up to the equivalent of season 1. The same major plot points people love the Metal Saga for are in both, big ups to Takafumi Adachi, but the anime added way for inter character relationships that made the story feel much more alive.

Anyways, that’s it from me.

I agree with some things, and others I don't. 

Chouzetsu's manga was kind of a mixed bag seeing Aiga beating everyone. In the anime however we see many indications of Aiga being under pressure, in doubt, and most of all; on a losing streak. After Leopard's destruction, this was a perfect way to convey Aiger's power-hungry dilemma and it was implemented very well. Now I will say the manga doing Z Achilles destruction was a little better with it being Valt destroying Achilles, but I still loved Phi doing it because it shows the irony that the same person that led Aiger to this dark path was the same person that freed him. It was very well done. 

Sparking's manga is only better with two things, Lane and Hyuga. Hikaru I don't mind in either he was amazing in both. Bringing some of the Legend's back in the manga was cool but I didn't enjoy the screen-time they had and it kind of made them coming back seem like a bluff. Also I disagree with the no development in the tournaments. Hyuga and Hikaru developed in a way while battling these Legends. In episode 25, not only was Hikaru fighting for himself, he fought more for his coach to show him how far he's gotten. Hikaru developed as a character. In episode 29, Hikaru comes up with a plan for Hyuga to win against Valt that takes him an entire night. Hikaru wants Hyuga to win so he wants him to follow the plan but Hyuga escapes and tells Hikaru, "I'm the one battling Valt not you." Hyuga then leaves Hikaru and goes to train with Honcho. Hyuga is having a hard time training with something on his mind and it's Hikaru. Honcho then goes on to say, "The only reason you're here is because of Hikaru." Hyuga then realizes that throughout their journey Hikaru has always been there for him. Hyuga goes back to Hikaru in compassion and follows on Hikaru's training regimen. We can even see Hikaru sacrifice himself for Hyuga in the battle against Lain the very next episode! Also in the battle Hyuga says, "I'm going to the final, together with Hikaru." This shows that Hyuga has developed. Tag League also developed character's very well but there's a lot to say about that so I'll just skip. 

Dynamite Battle's anime was a major letdown compared to what we got in the manga. It was sad to see the producer's not handle the animation well either. Not that it was downright horrible but just a complete digress to what phenomenal animation we got in previous seasons. Not even going to get into Bell and Rashad since I explained before that they were handled way better. O Jingu who was the director let many fans down with how DB went. I will say that Ranzo and Basara were done much better in the anime with inner conflicts and with those of the cast. Ranzo being with Bell and Basara being with Rashad and Bell. 

A question i've always pondered is that since Komi is over, do you think amazing animators like Ueda and Lee will come back for QuadStrike? One of the biggest reasons why QuadDrive didn't have as much great animation as GT and Sparking was because people like Lee, Ueda, and Fujimoto left for stuff like Komi and Chainsaw Man. Kawagoe the amazing director for Beyblade also left for Komi. But since it's over it might be a possibility that they come back. If OLM is willing to hire talented freelance or non freelance animators then QuadStrike will have amazing animation and could possibly be the best animated season in Burst.

One thing I will say is the animation and storyboarding in Burst is enough to make me tear up. Overall a criminally underrated series that more people need to watch.

You brought up a lot of good points I didn’t consider.

About Aiga, as I said in my post, he beats everyone, but the wins feel earned. Also the fact that he beats everyone ties into his arc well, with his confidence building up to pretentious levels. Phi destroying Achilles was cool, but I still think Valt doing it was better because it showed a side of him we rarely see, genuine anger.


Hikaru and Hyuga undoubtedly had growth for the brothers, I won’t deny that, but it absolutely pales in comparison to their incredible characters arcs in the manga. The actually kept a few of the ideas, with Hyuga trying to catch up to Hikaru and Hikaru sacrifices himself for Hyuga, but it just wasn’t done as well. 

As far as animation goes, as you said lots of the best animators left to work on other stuff. If QuadStrike was a normal season I could see them putting actual stock into it, however there’s a chance they won’t even feel the need to majorly improve, given that for the most part, the biggest part of their audience (Asia) will never watch QuadStrike.

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SPARKING SWEEP

I agree with some things, and others I don't. 

Chouzetsu's manga was kind of a mixed bag seeing Aiga beating everyone. In the anime however we see many indications of Aiga being under pressure, in doubt, and most of all; on a losing streak. After Leopard's destruction, this was a perfect way to convey Aiger's power-hungry dilemma and it was implemented very well. Now I will say the manga doing Z Achilles destruction was a little better with it being Valt destroying Achilles, but I still loved Phi doing it because it shows the irony that the same person that led Aiger to this dark path was the same person that freed him. It was very well done. 

Sparking's manga is only better with two things, Lane and Hyuga. Hikaru I don't mind in either he was amazing in both. Bringing some of the Legend's back in the manga was cool but I didn't enjoy the screen-time they had and it kind of made them coming back seem like a bluff. Also I disagree with the no development in the tournaments. Hyuga and Hikaru developed in a way while battling these Legends. In episode 25, not only was Hikaru fighting for himself, he fought more for his coach to show him how far he's gotten. Hikaru developed as a character. In episode 29, Hikaru comes up with a plan for Hyuga to win against Valt that takes him an entire night. Hikaru wants Hyuga to win so he wants him to follow the plan but Hyuga escapes and tells Hikaru, "I'm the one battling Valt not you." Hyuga then leaves Hikaru and goes to train with Honcho. Hyuga is having a hard time training with something on his mind and it's Hikaru. Honcho then goes on to say, "The only reason you're here is because of Hikaru." Hyuga then realizes that throughout their journey Hikaru has always been there for him. Hyuga goes back to Hikaru in compassion and follows on Hikaru's training regimen. We can even see Hikaru sacrifice himself for Hyuga in the battle against Lain the very next episode! Also in the battle Hyuga says, "I'm going to the final, together with Hikaru." This shows that Hyuga has developed. Tag League also developed character's very well but there's a lot to say about that so I'll just skip. 

Dynamite Battle's anime was a major letdown compared to what we got in the manga. It was sad to see the producer's not handle the animation well either. Not that it was downright horrible but just a complete digress to what phenomenal animation we got in previous seasons. Not even going to get into Bell and Rashad since I explained before that they were handled way better. O Jingu who was the director let many fans down with how DB went. I will say that Ranzo and Basara were done much better in the anime with inner conflicts and with those of the cast. Ranzo being with Bell and Basara being with Rashad and Bell. 

A question i've always pondered is that since Komi is over, do you think amazing animators like Ueda and Lee will come back for QuadStrike? One of the biggest reasons why QuadDrive didn't have as much great animation as GT and Sparking was because people like Lee, Ueda, and Fujimoto left for stuff like Komi and Chainsaw Man. Kawagoe the amazing director for Beyblade also left for Komi. But since it's over it might be a possibility that they come back. If OLM is willing to hire talented freelance or non freelance animators then QuadStrike will have amazing animation and could possibly be the best animated season in Burst.

One thing I will say is the animation and storyboarding in Burst is enough to make me tear up. Overall a criminally underrated series that more people need to watch.

You brought up a lot of good points I didn’t consider.

About Aiga, as I said in my post, he beats everyone, but the wins feel earned. Also the fact that he beats everyone ties into his arc well, with his confidence building up to pretentious levels. Phi destroying Achilles was cool, but I still think Valt doing it was better because it showed a side of him we rarely see, genuine anger.


Hikaru and Hyuga undoubtedly had growth for the brothers, I won’t deny that, but it absolutely pales in comparison to their incredible characters arcs in the manga. The actually kept a few of the ideas, with Hyuga trying to catch up to Hikaru and Hikaru sacrifices himself for Hyuga, but it just wasn’t done as well. 

As far as animation goes, as you said lots of the best animators left to work on other stuff. If QuadStrike was a normal season I could see them putting actual stock into it, however there’s a chance they won’t even feel the need to majorly improve, given that for the most part, the biggest part of their audience (Asia) will never watch QuadStrike.

I am glad we both agree on some things. I'm crossing my fingers for amazing animation. Hopefully they find phenomenal animators.

Unfortunately I pitted Lost Longinus and Victory Valkyrie and my stadium was destroyed. Talk about anime accuracy.

Unfortunately I pitted Lost Longinus and Victory Valkyrie and my stadium was destroyed. Talk about anime accuracy.

That's wild. I'm guessing they were clashing mid air destroying your surroundings and created a crack in the stadium?

Unfortunately I pitted Lost Longinus and Victory Valkyrie and my stadium was destroyed. Talk about anime accuracy.

That's wild. I'm guessing they were clashing mid air destroying your surroundings and created a crack in the stadium?

I literally punched the air when that happened and yet no valt beats lui payoff... talk about wasted potential...

That's wild. I'm guessing they were clashing mid air destroying your surroundings and created a crack in the stadium?

I literally punched the air when that happened and yet no valt beats lui payoff... talk about wasted potential...

Valt beat Lui in the Legend Festival, it wasn't one on one, but Hyuga was only able to knock them out because Valt gave him a boost.

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Unfortunately I pitted Lost Longinus and Victory Valkyrie and my stadium was destroyed. Talk about anime accuracy.

That's wild. I'm guessing they were clashing mid air destroying your surroundings and created a crack in the stadium?

They clashed in the stadium and Longinus disc cut the stadium and made a major crack. 

I literally punched the air when that happened and yet no valt beats lui payoff... talk about wasted potential...

Valt beat Lui in the Legend Festival, it wasn't one on one, but Hyuga was only able to knock them out because Valt gave him a boost.

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That's wild. I'm guessing they were clashing mid air destroying your surroundings and created a crack in the stadium?

They clashed in the stadium and Longinus disc cut the stadium and made a major crack. 

I still don’t count episode 27 of sparking tbh

Valt beat Lui in the Legend Festival, it wasn't one on one, but Hyuga was only able to knock them out because Valt gave him a boost.

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They clashed in the stadium and Longinus disc cut the stadium and made a major crack. 

I still don’t count episode 27 of sparking tbh

I mean, it doesn't really matter. Valt still took him down, which is why Lui was eliminated. Or maybe Hyuga beat both Free and Lui by himself? Right?

I still don’t count episode 27 of sparking tbh

I mean, it doesn't really matter. Valt still took him down, which is why Lui was eliminated. Or maybe Hyuga beat both Free and Lui by himself? Right?

Yeah it was Hyuga that beat them

are we really going to argue about this again?

are we really going to argue about this again?

I’m not even trying to start an argument I’m just answering his question…

I mean, it doesn't really matter. Valt still took him down, which is why Lui was eliminated. Or maybe Hyuga beat both Free and Lui by himself? Right?

Yeah it was Hyuga that beat them

No he didn't, it was a combined attack from Valt and Hyuga. If you truly believe Hyuga can beat them both, then it's dumb.

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are we really going to argue about this again?

There's nothing to argue, Valt beat Lui. End of the story.

Yeah it was Hyuga that beat them

No he didn't, it was a combined attack from Valt and Hyuga. If you truly believe Hyuga can beat them both, then it's dumb.

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are we really going to argue about this again?

There's nothing to argue, Valt beat Lui. End of the story.

Valt just gave Hyuga a boost so I guess from that way I guess you can kind of say that Valt also won but to me unless Valkyrie in that stadium then I don’t count as a win plus I want Valt to beat Lui one. On one

No he didn't, it was a combined attack from Valt and Hyuga. If you truly believe Hyuga can beat them both, then it's dumb.

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There's nothing to argue, Valt beat Lui. End of the story.

Valt just gave Hyuga a boost so I guess from that way I guess you can kind of say that Valt also won but to me unless Valkyrie in that stadium then I don’t count as a win plus I want Valt to beat Lui one. On one

That's dumb, Valt sacrificed Valkyrie on purpose to give Hyperion a boost. He didn't need to stay in the stadium, it was a 2 on 2. Even if Valt does beat Lui, that wouldn't really be a big deal, considering every protagonist has managed to beat him, aside from Drum but even he had a drew with him. Valt beating Lui and Free with Hyuga is much more impressive than Valt beating Lui one on one. Plus, Valt did much better against Lane and even beat him once, while Lane stomped Lui every time.

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And one more thing I fail to understand, you're not counting that win just because Valkyrie was not in the stadium? That's dumb, based on that logic, Valt didnt beat Quon Limon in season 1. Valkyrie was knocked out after bursting his opponent, does that mean he didn't win? No.

Valt just gave Hyuga a boost so I guess from that way I guess you can kind of say that Valt also won but to me unless Valkyrie in that stadium then I don’t count as a win plus I want Valt to beat Lui one. On one

That's dumb, Valt sacrificed Valkyrie on purpose to give Hyperion a boost. He didn't need to stay in the stadium, it was a 2 on 2. Even if Valt does beat Lui, that wouldn't really be a big deal, considering every protagonist has managed to beat him, aside from Drum but even he had a drew with him. Valt beating Lui and Free with Hyuga is much more impressive than Valt beating Lui one on one. Plus, Valt did much better against Lane and even beat him once, while Lane stomped Lui every time.

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And one more thing I fail to understand, you're not counting that win just because Valkyrie was not in the stadium? That's dumb, based on that logic, Valt didnt beat Quon Limon in season 1. Valkyrie was knocked out after bursting his opponent, does that mean he didn't win? No.

Bro don’t be playing dumb with me you know what I mean by Valkyrie being in the stadium plus it doesn’t matter if most protagonists beated Lui we’re talking about Valt plus it’s still a wasted payoff anyways and was Valkyrie the one to knock out Longinus and Fafnir NO Hyperion did so please use  common sense next time also about the whole 2v2 thing I want Valt to beat Lui on a one on one on his own because that’s a good payoff to me. I was just saying my own opinion but apparently I’m not allowed to do that anymore! If you want to continue this argument FINE but I’m not. Have a good day. 🥸

That's dumb, Valt sacrificed Valkyrie on purpose to give Hyperion a boost. He didn't need to stay in the stadium, it was a 2 on 2. Even if Valt does beat Lui, that wouldn't really be a big deal, considering every protagonist has managed to beat him, aside from Drum but even he had a drew with him. Valt beating Lui and Free with Hyuga is much more impressive than Valt beating Lui one on one. Plus, Valt did much better against Lane and even beat him once, while Lane stomped Lui every time.

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And one more thing I fail to understand, you're not counting that win just because Valkyrie was not in the stadium? That's dumb, based on that logic, Valt didnt beat Quon Limon in season 1. Valkyrie was knocked out after bursting his opponent, does that mean he didn't win? No.

Bro don’t be playing dumb with me you know what I mean by Valkyrie being in the stadium plus it doesn’t matter if most protagonists beated Lui we’re talking about Valt plus it’s still a wasted payoff anyways and was Valkyrie the one to knock out Longinus and Fafnir NO Hyperion did so please use  common sense next time also about the whole 2v2 thing I want Valt to beat Lui on a one on one on his own because that’s a good payoff to me. I was just saying my own opinion but apparently I’m not allowed to do that anymore! If you want to continue this argument FINE but I’m not. Have a good day. 🥸

No Hyperion did not knock them out, you're saying like he did it alone. Valkyrie and Hyperion knocked out Longinus and Fafnir, do you understand? It was a combined attack. And no, Valkyrie not staying in the stadium doesn't mean he lost, that's stupid. In Cho-Z the outcome was pretty much Valt keeping his title because the stadium was destroyed, it's sweet karma. Valt losing in season 1 because of the crack, and Valt keeping his title because the stadium was cracked. If Valt won, it would've been the same outcome anyway, Valt keeping his title. So, yeah, it was very satsfying. Again, Valt was decleared the winner in the Legend Festival. Why is it so important to you? Valt beat Lui and was shown to be superior to him on multiple occasions.

Bro don’t be playing dumb with me you know what I mean by Valkyrie being in the stadium plus it doesn’t matter if most protagonists beated Lui we’re talking about Valt plus it’s still a wasted payoff anyways and was Valkyrie the one to knock out Longinus and Fafnir NO Hyperion did so please use  common sense next time also about the whole 2v2 thing I want Valt to beat Lui on a one on one on his own because that’s a good payoff to me. I was just saying my own opinion but apparently I’m not allowed to do that anymore! If you want to continue this argument FINE but I’m not. Have a good day. 🥸

No Hyperion did not knock them out, you're saying like he did it alone. Valkyrie and Hyperion knocked out Longinus and Fafnir, do you understand? It was a combined attack. And no, Valkyrie not staying in the stadium doesn't mean he lost, that's stupid. In Cho-Z the outcome was pretty much Valt keeping his title because the stadium was destroyed, it's sweet karma. Valt losing in season 1 because of the crack, and Valt keeping his title because the stadium was cracked. If Valt won, it would've been the same outcome anyway, Valt keeping his title. So, yeah, it was very satsfying. Again, Valt was decleared the winner in the Legend Festival. Why is it so important to you? Valt beat Lui and was shown to be superior to him on multiple occasions.

Hey man I just wanted I nice payoff gosh… 😤 and I’m not even talking about sparking I’m talking about the series in general honestly I don’t feel like continuing this argument so can we act like noble human beings and agree to disagree like you want to start an argument and I am not at all for it also why yes Hyperion and Valkyrie had a combined attack I want Valkyrie itself to beat Lui like it’s not that hard! Has Valt beaten Lui on his own NO?  So therefore to ME Valt Hasn’t beaten Lui simple as that. You can take it like a normal person or continue arguing! Simple as that…
Now like I said HAVE A GOOD DAY. 😡
Goodness you like arguing so much on this site like really? Plus this is my opinion anyways and It’s okay for you to have yours just don’t be replying to me like if I’m stupid or something…
Ok now actually have a good day.

I dont why this Valt VS Lui is still going. Valt never beat Lui 1 vs 1, he only won via tag doesnt matter if Hyuga wouldnt be able to own its own or not thats they whole point of a tag battle its a team play . But it doesnt matter by the end cause Valt still his the champ and the better blader its that simple Valt isnt the first Nor going to be the last main or in fact a major character in fiction who has that one character they never beat its not a special case for Valt. So let this argument be buried Unless hasbro does something in their exclusive season or whatever (Which wont happen its not needed). Doesnt matter by the end of the day Valt os the #1 so Yea

No Hyperion did not knock them out, you're saying like he did it alone. Valkyrie and Hyperion knocked out Longinus and Fafnir, do you understand? It was a combined attack. And no, Valkyrie not staying in the stadium doesn't mean he lost, that's stupid. In Cho-Z the outcome was pretty much Valt keeping his title because the stadium was destroyed, it's sweet karma. Valt losing in season 1 because of the crack, and Valt keeping his title because the stadium was cracked. If Valt won, it would've been the same outcome anyway, Valt keeping his title. So, yeah, it was very satsfying. Again, Valt was decleared the winner in the Legend Festival. Why is it so important to you? Valt beat Lui and was shown to be superior to him on multiple occasions.

Hey man I just wanted I nice payoff gosh… 😤 and I’m not even talking about sparking I’m talking about the series in general honestly I don’t feel like continuing this argument so can we act like noble human beings and agree to disagree like you want to start an argument and I am not at all for it also why yes Hyperion and Valkyrie had a combined attack I want Valkyrie itself to beat Lui like it’s not that hard! Has Valt beaten Lui on his own NO?  So therefore to ME Valt Hasn’t beaten Lui simple as that. You can take it like a normal person or continue arguing! Simple as that…
Now like I said HAVE A GOOD DAY. 😡
Goodness you like arguing so much on this site like really? Plus this is my opinion anyways and It’s okay for you to have yours just don’t be replying to me like if I’m stupid or something…
Ok now actually have a good day.

You are definitely far from being stupid, and you seem like a smart man. I understand you wanted Valt to take down Lui one on one, I did too, but we need to think about the things we did get. We are not arguing bro, we are just debating. Everything is all good. Plus, Valt managed to burst Longinus the most out of everyone with 2 burst finushes, aside from Shu and Bell and Lain.

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I dont why this Valt VS Lui is still going. Valt never beat Lui 1 vs 1, he only won via tag doesnt matter if Hyuga wouldnt be able to own its own or not thats they whole point of a tag battle its a team play . But it doesnt matter by the end cause Valt still his the champ and the better blader its that simple Valt isnt the first Nor going to be the last main or in fact a major character in fiction who has that one character they never beat its not a special case for Valt. So let this argument be buried Unless hasbro does something in their exclusive season or whatever (Which wont happen its not needed). Doesnt matter by the end of the day Valt os the #1 so Yea

What do you mean only won via tag? You're implying it doesn't count, it's honestly even more impressive to beat Free and Lui with freaking Hyuga, then soloing Lui 1v1.

Hey man I just wanted I nice payoff gosh… 😤 and I’m not even talking about sparking I’m talking about the series in general honestly I don’t feel like continuing this argument so can we act like noble human beings and agree to disagree like you want to start an argument and I am not at all for it also why yes Hyperion and Valkyrie had a combined attack I want Valkyrie itself to beat Lui like it’s not that hard! Has Valt beaten Lui on his own NO?  So therefore to ME Valt Hasn’t beaten Lui simple as that. You can take it like a normal person or continue arguing! Simple as that…
Now like I said HAVE A GOOD DAY. 😡
Goodness you like arguing so much on this site like really? Plus this is my opinion anyways and It’s okay for you to have yours just don’t be replying to me like if I’m stupid or something…
Ok now actually have a good day.

You are definitely far from being stupid, and you seem like a smart man. I understand you wanted Valt to take down Lui one on one, I did too, but we need to think about the things we did get. We are not arguing bro, we are just debating. Everything is all good. Plus, Valt managed to burst Longinus the most out of everyone with 2 burst finushes, aside from Shu and Bell and Lain.

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I dont why this Valt VS Lui is still going. Valt never beat Lui 1 vs 1, he only won via tag doesnt matter if Hyuga wouldnt be able to own its own or not thats they whole point of a tag battle its a team play . But it doesnt matter by the end cause Valt still his the champ and the better blader its that simple Valt isnt the first Nor going to be the last main or in fact a major character in fiction who has that one character they never beat its not a special case for Valt. So let this argument be buried Unless hasbro does something in their exclusive season or whatever (Which wont happen its not needed). Doesnt matter by the end of the day Valt os the #1 so Yea

What do you mean only won via tag? You're implying it doesn't count, it's honestly even more impressive to beat Free and Lui with freaking Hyuga, then soloing Lui 1v1.

Alright we cool 😎

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Hey man I just wanted I nice payoff gosh… 😤 and I’m not even talking about sparking I’m talking about the series in general honestly I don’t feel like continuing this argument so can we act like noble human beings and agree to disagree like you want to start an argument and I am not at all for it also why yes Hyperion and Valkyrie had a combined attack I want Valkyrie itself to beat Lui like it’s not that hard! Has Valt beaten Lui on his own NO?  So therefore to ME Valt Hasn’t beaten Lui simple as that. You can take it like a normal person or continue arguing! Simple as that…
Now like I said HAVE A GOOD DAY. 😡
Goodness you like arguing so much on this site like really? Plus this is my opinion anyways and It’s okay for you to have yours just don’t be replying to me like if I’m stupid or something…
Ok now actually have a good day.

You are definitely far from being stupid, and you seem like a smart man. I understand you wanted Valt to take down Lui one on one, I did too, but we need to think about the things we did get. We are not arguing bro, we are just debating. Everything is all good. Plus, Valt managed to burst Longinus the most out of everyone with 2 burst finushes, aside from Shu and Bell and Lain.

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I dont why this Valt VS Lui is still going. Valt never beat Lui 1 vs 1, he only won via tag doesnt matter if Hyuga wouldnt be able to own its own or not thats they whole point of a tag battle its a team play . But it doesnt matter by the end cause Valt still his the champ and the better blader its that simple Valt isnt the first Nor going to be the last main or in fact a major character in fiction who has that one character they never beat its not a special case for Valt. So let this argument be buried Unless hasbro does something in their exclusive season or whatever (Which wont happen its not needed). Doesnt matter by the end of the day Valt os the #1 so Yea

What do you mean only won via tag? You're implying it doesn't count, it's honestly even more impressive to beat Free and Lui with freaking Hyuga, then soloing Lui 1v1.

Alright we cool g2 😎

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Hey man I just wanted I nice payoff gosh… 😤 and I’m not even talking about sparking I’m talking about the series in general honestly I don’t feel like continuing this argument so can we act like noble human beings and agree to disagree like you want to start an argument and I am not at all for it also why yes Hyperion and Valkyrie had a combined attack I want Valkyrie itself to beat Lui like it’s not that hard! Has Valt beaten Lui on his own NO?  So therefore to ME Valt Hasn’t beaten Lui simple as that. You can take it like a normal person or continue arguing! Simple as that…
Now like I said HAVE A GOOD DAY. 😡
Goodness you like arguing so much on this site like really? Plus this is my opinion anyways and It’s okay for you to have yours just don’t be replying to me like if I’m stupid or something…
Ok now actually have a good day.

You are definitely far from being stupid, and you seem like a smart man. I understand you wanted Valt to take down Lui one on one, I did too, but we need to think about the things we did get. We are not arguing bro, we are just debating. Everything is all good. Plus, Valt managed to burst Longinus the most out of everyone with 2 burst finushes, aside from Shu and Bell and Lain.

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I dont why this Valt VS Lui is still going. Valt never beat Lui 1 vs 1, he only won via tag doesnt matter if Hyuga wouldnt be able to own its own or not thats they whole point of a tag battle its a team play . But it doesnt matter by the end cause Valt still his the champ and the better blader its that simple Valt isnt the first Nor going to be the last main or in fact a major character in fiction who has that one character they never beat its not a special case for Valt. So let this argument be buried Unless hasbro does something in their exclusive season or whatever (Which wont happen its not needed). Doesnt matter by the end of the day Valt os the #1 so Yea

What do you mean only won via tag? You're implying it doesn't count, it's honestly even more impressive to beat Free and Lui with freaking Hyuga, then soloing Lui 1v1.

Alright we cool 😎