(Jan. 22, 2023 11:17 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote: (Jan. 22, 2023 10:27 PM)Admiral W Wrote: If you'll notice, not once in any of my replies have I ever once said Valt has beaten Lui. I broke down the particulars of how the battle was won. Can he beat Lui? Of course. Valt's the strongest blader in the world. Has he beaten Lui 1v1? No. And I'm not disputing that.
I wasn’t taking a shot at you. I just didn’t like the tag team case someone else made. I understood your case. I 100% agree he can beat Lui, but he hasn’t done so.
Yes he did beat Lui, just not one on one. Im not even counting the times he burst Longinus alone.
(Jan. 22, 2023 10:13 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote: (Jan. 22, 2023 7:37 PM)g2_ Wrote: You mean 2v1 against Free and Lui obviously he will lose. Hyuga can't give Valt a boost because Hyperion doesn't have rubber parts.Valt beat Free and Lui because he gave Hyuga a boost. The only reason Valt didn't beat Lui is because 3 battles was Longinus debut. Lost Longinus beat Valkyrie in his debut, Nightmare Longinus too, and Bloody Longinus couldn't beat Valt in his debut. Valt already burst Longinus several times. Valt stomps Lui, the fact that he beat Free and Lui with a whimp like Hyuga, says a lot. Plus, Lane creamed Lui twice while Valt beat Lane.
Lane destroyed Valt and the other legends which makes him the best blader ever in your logic. He also did it AFTER his debut.
No, Lane had plot armor. And Valt was wrecking Lane until he pulled that random bs Variant Disaster. And let's not act like Lane took on Valt and Rantaro alone, Shu helped him and he also tanked syncro lightning. The only reason Valt needed Rantaro to sacrifice himself, is because he needed to reserve stamina to beat Shu.
(Jan. 22, 2023 10:25 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: Sense we using the logic of Valt beating Lui and free cause he ws the one who give Hyuga the boost. Then no one should complain that if it wasnt for rantaro sacrife Valt wouldve lost to lain during their 2 VS 2 against shu and lain Sense assit now apprently means you win lol or ranjiro beat both Rantaro and Valt cause he give aiga that boost. Valt couldnt beat lain 1 VS 1 just like Lui so thats not a good example at all to determine whos better. Anyway its obvious Valt os stronger its that simple
Yes, Ranjiro beat Valt and Rantaro. The context is important, Ranjiro beat them because he gave Aiga a boost but yes, he did win. Valt beat Lui fair and square, just not one on one. Honestly Valt beating Lane and Shu with a teamate like Rantaro is much more impressive than beating Lane alone.