Hot take: Gwyn and Phi would've whooped Lean in Sparking, hands down.

Depends on multiple things:
Does Lean get plot armor?
Do the other two get it (because let's be honest, they had some too)?
Are Gwyn and Phi using Sparking evolutions of their beys?

Also, while on the subject of Lean, I don't understand why he's even supposed to be a bad guy. He's pretty similar to Dark Resonance Aiga, the resonance/flare has corrupted him, so he seeks to be the strongest. I don't even think he had planned on destroying Ragnaruk or the sun beys, but did so in the heat of the moment. Meanwhile, all of Phi's breaks (except Z Achilles) were very much deliberate. So, at worst, he's a massive jerk.

Does Lean get plot armor? 
A little plot armor just to make the battle interesting.

Do the other two get it (because let's be honest, they had some too)?
No plot armor for Phi or Gwyn

Are Gwyn and Phi using Sparking evolutions of their beys?
Yes, they got their Sparking evolutions (which should've actually happened in the manga) that have the same gimmicks as their previous beys.

Who would win:
Brave Valkyrie vs. World Spriggan
Vanish Fafnir vs. Savior Valkyrie
LTE (Lucifer The End) vs. Dynamite Belial/w F-Gear
Big Bang Genesis vs. Union Achilles and Slash Valkyrie
Variant Lucifer vs. Mirage Fafnir
Rage Longinus vs. Tempest Dragon

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Hot take: Rantaro shouldn't be part of the Legend Bladers since there are other bladers that are more qualified to be the group: Fubuki, Kensuke, Hearts, Boa, and Kurtz.

Who would win:
Brave Valkyrie vs. World Spriggan
Vanish Fafnir vs. Savior Valkyrie
LTE (Lucifer The End) vs. Dynamite Belial/w F-Gear
Big Bang Genesis vs. Union Achilles and Slash Valkyrie
Variant Lucifer vs. Mirage Fafnir
Rage Longinus vs. Tempest Dragon

Assuming this is for the anime:
Probably gonna be like the Valt vs Shu in God, as in Sparking Valt barely outspun Shu, and that was after Shu took a pretty big hit from Valt and Rantaro's combo.
As much as I want Fafnir to win,  probably Valkyrie.
Achilles and Valkyrie team up? They win.
Variant Lucifer because yes.
I think Lui is stronger than Drum in Sparking. They make a dangerous team tho.

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Hot take: Gwyn and Phi would've whooped Lean in Sparking, hands down.

As much as I don't like lean There's just no way phi is gonna win power wise. even if lean is weaker he'll just grows each time he battle just like broly from dbs. He basically like a super prodigy which almost impossible to beat in a 1v1 match unless the opponent is as the level of strategic as bell which arguably Gwyn might be able to beat him considering his power grow is nutz but not as nutz as lean so it's up in the air but imo lean would take the w

Also, while on the subject of Lean, I don't understand why he's even supposed to be a bad guy. He's pretty similar to Dark Resonance Aiga, the resonance/flare has corrupted him, so he seeks to be the strongest. I don't even think he had planned on destroying Ragnaruk or the sun beys, but did so in the heat of the moment. Meanwhile, all of Phi's breaks (except Z Achilles) were very much deliberate. So, at worst, he's a massive jerk.
EDIT: Red Eye broke beys deliberately too, imo.

The author aka hiro morita has actually confirmed that lean was supposed to be a shadow protagonist which is quite fitting considering his development is all about "after you become the strongest then what?" Which got a really poor execution imo

Fair point, but the story could move forward without slapping the number 1 role back down to Valt. Don't get me wrong, not saying I don't like or that he doesn't deserve it. Him being number 1 wasn't exactly needed for the story since he's already an influential blader around the world. They could have just dropped the whole ranking thing if it's barely mentioned enough to matter.

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Valt holding back is not a part of his personality, so I heavily doubt that was true. That's more of a Free/Lui type style. I ain't denying that Aiga had plot armor within Cho-Z, but it got better towards the end of the season. Not like other main characters didn't have plot armor either, including Valt, so I don't see how he gets completely exempt from that. And yeah, he lost to show that beyblade isn't all about winning from his perspective. Just like he lost to Aiga at the end of Cho-Z.

Say if Valt went full power on Hyuga in his first battle he would've broken Hyperion so that's why most if the time he holds back

It doesn't work like this. By not holding back you not always destroy bey. Apocalypse, Lucifer, Genesis, Spriggan, Phoenix destroyed beys because they wanted to do this so they not holded back. If Valt would fight with full power, he would just shoot Hyperion in wall. There are differences in power, and it's sad that Valt is holding because it have no sense for him if he want to have fun with others

I figure that the strongest bladers or at least top 3 is the protagonist, antagonist, rival to the protagonist.
Also I keep seeing people say Lane is the strongest antagonist in Burst is that backgammon or truth? Cause I don't remember anything that was stated or implied about that.

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Guys Hyuga in the end of Sparking is #17. Hikaru isn't legend but he is #1A

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I guess he between Sparking and DB return it

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Hyuga can't be so high. I'm going to fix your rank a little bit.
1 Bell
2 Rashad
3 Valt
4 Shu 
5 Lean
6 Aiga
7 Free
8 Lui
9 Drum
10 Phi
11 Gwyn
12 Delta
13 Xhaka
14 Sisco
15 Zac
16 Wakiya
17 Daina
18 Rantaro
19 Hyuga ( if he won't appear in DB)

A 1 Basara
2 Hikaru
3 Ranzo

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Must Rashad suprass Valt

I don't mean to be rude but stop the CAP lol. Manga Hyuga surpassed Rantaro, Daina, Wakiya, Zac, Sisco, and Lean so him being under those guys is blasphemy. And Hyuga beat Lean with 4 points to 2 points, bursting him TWO times. So, Hyuga should at least be in the Top 10. Also, Basara above Hikaru, BOI STOP THE CAP XD!!!! Sure, we didn't see Basara in action yet but I highly doubt he would be stronger than Hikaru. On another note, you're right to question if Rashad would surpass Valt since we didn't see him in action but I have a feeling he will be a beast.

Rank doesn't work like this. The more beys you defeat the stronger rank you get. Of course Manga Hyuga is better than Anime, but to get higher rank he need to work harder. And he suprass only Lean, Drum and Kiyama brothers. Others he didn't beat. 
2 What. I don't understand what are you talking about

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I will post the official rankings later

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Beyblade Burst Official Rankings (Note: This is after sparking)

S 1. Valt Aoi

S 2. Lane Valhalla

S 3. Shu Kurenai

S 4. Aiger Akabane

S 5. Free De La Hoya

S 6. Lui Shirosagi

S 7. Dante Koryu

S 8. Phi Kuromi

S 9. Gwyn Renolds

S 10. Delta Zakuro (No not the DeltaZakuro on WBO)

S 11. Xander Shakadera

S 12. Silas Karsile

S 13. Zac Kaneguro

S 14. Wakiya Murasaki

S 15. Daigo Kurogami

16. Unkown

A 1. Hikaru Hizashi

A 2. Hyuga Hizashi (S stands for S tier and A stands for A tier)

From Vtryuga it's said that Shu return his rank

I don't mean to be rude but stop the CAP lol. Manga Hyuga surpassed Rantaro, Daina, Wakiya, Zac, Sisco, and Lean so him being under those guys is blasphemy. And Hyuga beat Lean with 4 points to 2 points, bursting him TWO times. So, Hyuga should at least be in the Top 10. Also, Basara above Hikaru, BOI STOP THE CAP XD!!!! Sure, we didn't see Basara in action yet but I highly doubt he would be stronger than Hikaru. On another note, you're right to question if Rashad would surpass Valt since we didn't see him in action but I have a feeling he will be a beast.

Rank doesn't work like this. The more beys you defeat the stronger rank you get. Of course Manga Hyuga is better than Anime, but to get higher rank he need to work harder. And he suprass only Lean, Drum and Kiyama brothers. Others he didn't beat. 
2 What. I don't understand what are you talking about

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I will post the official rankings later

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Beyblade Burst Official Rankings (Note: This is after sparking)

S 1. Valt Aoi

S 2. Lane Valhalla

S 3. Shu Kurenai

S 4. Aiger Akabane

S 5. Free De La Hoya

S 6. Lui Shirosagi

S 7. Dante Koryu

S 8. Phi Kuromi

S 9. Gwyn Renolds

S 10. Delta Zakuro (No not the DeltaZakuro on WBO)

S 11. Xander Shakadera

S 12. Silas Karsile

S 13. Zac Kaneguro

S 14. Wakiya Murasaki

S 15. Daigo Kurogami

16. Unkown

A 1. Hikaru Hizashi

A 2. Hyuga Hizashi (S stands for S tier and A stands for A tier)

From Vtryuga it's said that Shu return his rank

I dunno much these are just the rankings

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I will post the official rankings later

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Beyblade Burst Official Rankings (Note: This is after sparking)

S 1. Valt Aoi

S 2. Lane Valhalla

S 3. Shu Kurenai

S 4. Aiger Akabane

S 5. Free De La Hoya

S 6. Lui Shirosagi

S 7. Dante Koryu

S 8. Phi Kuromi

S 9. Gwyn Renolds

S 10. Delta Zakuro (No not the DeltaZakuro on WBO)

S 11. Xander Shakadera

S 12. Silas Karsile

S 13. Zac Kaneguro

S 14. Wakiya Murasaki

S 15. Daigo Kurogami

16. Unkown

A 1. Hikaru Hizashi

A 2. Hyuga Hizashi (S stands for S tier and A stands for A tier)

16 is Rantaro. What about Phi. He don't have surname, Kuromi is fake

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The only way Bell would win is with the V Gear and Plot Armor

It's called strategy bro. We already know that with F gear he could beat Free, and Free got dumb from him

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Let's be honest. Bell don't use plot Armour

Protagonists Ranking
Valt > Gingka > Tyson > Drum > Aiga > Bell > Hikaru > Hyuga

Yeah I agree,this is my ranking too.

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Valt and Valkyrie are my favorite
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Who would win:
Brave Valkyrie vs. World Spriggan
Vanish Fafnir vs. Savior Valkyrie
LTE (Lucifer The End) vs. Dynamite Belial/w F-Gear
Big Bang Genesis vs. Union Achilles and Slash Valkyrie
Variant Lucifer vs. Mirage Fafnir
Rage Longinus vs. Tempest Dragon

1.Imo Valt will win since he got way more stronger in final. Wherever Shu can use plot armour
2. Now it will be Savior
3. Dynamite Bomber will destroy him
4. If to think Drum and Delta were suprass Valt and Aiga so Gwyn can beat them
5. Barrier vs Spin Steal. Well plot armour win
6 I guess they are same power like brothers when fight each other

I will post the official rankings later

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Beyblade Burst Official Rankings (Note: This is after sparking)

S 1. Valt Aoi

S 2. Lane Valhalla

S 3. Shu Kurenai

S 4. Aiger Akabane

S 5. Free De La Hoya

S 6. Lui Shirosagi

S 7. Dante Koryu

S 8. Phi Kuromi

S 9. Gwyn Renolds

S 10. Delta Zakuro (No not the DeltaZakuro on WBO)

S 11. Xander Shakadera

S 12. Silas Karsile

S 13. Zac Kaneguro

S 14. Wakiya Murasaki

S 15. Daigo Kurogami

16. Unkown

A 1. Hikaru Hizashi

A 2. Hyuga Hizashi (S stands for S tier and A stands for A tier)

16 is Rantaro. What about Phi. He don't have surname, Kuromi is fake

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The only way Bell would win is with the V Gear and Plot Armor

It's called strategy bro. We already know that with F gear he could beat Free, and Free got dumb from him

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Let's be honest. Bell don't use plot Armour

On the Beyblade wiki after sparking it said Rantaro's ranking was unkown

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Hot take: Gwyn and Phi would've whooped Lean in Sparking, hands down.

As much as I don't like lean There's just no way phi is gonna win power wise. even if lean is weaker he'll  just grows each time he battle just like broly from dbs. He basically like a super prodigy which almost impossible to beat in a 1v1 match unless the opponent is as the level of strategic as bell which arguably Gwyn might be able to beat him considering his power grow is nutz but not as nutz as lean so it's up in the air but imo lean would take the w

Also, while on the subject of Lean, I don't understand why he's even supposed to be a bad guy. He's pretty similar to Dark Resonance Aiga, the resonance/flare has corrupted him, so he seeks to be the strongest. I don't even think he had planned on destroying Ragnaruk or the sun beys, but did so in the heat of the moment. Meanwhile, all of Phi's breaks (except Z Achilles) were very much deliberate. So, at worst, he's a massive jerk.
EDIT: Red Eye broke beys deliberately too, imo.

The author aka hiro morita has actually confirmed that lean was supposed to be a shadow protagonist which is quite fitting considering his development is all about "after you become the strongest then what?" Which got a really poor execution imo

He scared copyright so he decided to make 2 brothers. Really sad

I dont want to be the “The wiki is inaccurate”-type of person, but here I go:

Id advise not to heavily rely on the Beyblade wiki for animanga information, regardless of whether or not the info is actually correct or wrong. Plenty of WBO users know that the wiki’s animanga content is messy at the moment (At some point, the wiki told me Ryuto was Ryuga’s brother, for example). Though, kudos for the content moderators currently cleaning it up at the moment and making the information more accurate and readable. In the meantime, theres a lot of misinfo and speculation swept under the radar

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16 is Rantaro. What about Phi. He don't have surname, Kuromi is fake

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It's called strategy bro. We already know that with F gear he could beat Free, and Free got dumb from him

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Let's be honest. Bell don't use plot Armour

On the Beyblade wiki after sparking it said Rantaro's ranking was unkown

Beyblade Wiki is just a site where some people think but they don't know what really happening. Imo all people musn't go to them they won't give something useful. While Rantaro is still legend because Hyuga is 17

Wiki's aren't that reliable for information

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It was confirmed that Rantaro is still a legend in Ranzo's bio. It said he's a relative of Legendary Blader Rantaro Kiyama.

It was confirmed that Rantaro is still a legend in Ranzo's bio. It said he's a relative of Legendary Blader Rantaro Kiyama.

Yay, Kumicho.

Protagonists Ranking
Valt > Gingka > Tyson > Drum > Aiga > Bell > Hikaru > Hyuga

Imma have to disagree. Tyson's a tie or a hair less good of protagonist than Valt, and imo Gingka's a better protagonist.


What is your ranking for the three beyblade gens?

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FBW saga (First Blader War)

Scion of the Legends (The Dark Forsworn Series)

Note: I'm falling apart from reading many posts from people who are leaving or are going to be inactive.

Hot take: Rantaro shouldn't be part of the Legend Bladers since there are other bladers that are more qualified to be the group: Fubuki, Kensuke, Hearts, Boa, and Kurtz.

Not just Rantaro, Daigo, Wakiya, Zac and Gwyn don't deserve to be in the S-Tier.

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you better watch this if you want nostalgia over these years. MEP Legendary: https://youtu.be/BxXAlIpZ-ns

Hot take: Rantaro shouldn't be part of the Legend Bladers since there are other bladers that are more qualified to be the group: Fubuki, Kensuke, Hearts, Boa, and Kurtz.

Not just Rantaro, Daigo, Wakiya, Zac and Gwyn don't deserve to be in the S-Tier.

I get you saying Rantaro Daigo Wakiya and Zac not deserving to be S tier but Gwyn totally deserves it he demolished the competition when he just started blading she beat Arthur in this third battle he beat Dante on his second battle him being there is much deserved

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The One Piece is the friends we made a long the way.

I dont want to be the “The wiki is inaccurate”-type of person, but here I go:

Id advise not to heavily rely on the Beyblade wiki for animanga information, regardless of whether or not the info is actually correct or wrong. Plenty of WBO users know that the wiki’s animanga content is messy at the moment (At some point, the wiki told me Ryuto was Ryuga’s brother, for example). Though, kudos for the content moderators currently cleaning it up at the moment and making the information more accurate and readable. In the meantime, theres a lot of misinfo and speculation swept under the radar

The wiki also associates/mixes and matches various elements from both the manga and anime as if they were a single continuity such as rankings, characteristics etc. A lot of the people editing the beywiki really have no clue what they are doing.

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Not just Rantaro, Daigo, Wakiya, Zac and Gwyn don't deserve to be in the S-Tier.

I get you saying Rantaro Daigo Wakiya and Zac not deserving to be S tier but Gwyn totally deserves it he demolished the competition when he just started blading she beat Arthur in this third battle he beat Dante on his second battle him being there is much deserved

I mean, Daigo, Wakiya, Zac and Rantaro may not have the necessary feats to be considered legends but the fact that they are iconic fan favourites is more than enough. IMO, iconic, well written characters are just as deserving as standing among legends as the overpowered edgelords (Shu, Lui, Free, Aiga).

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Not bad eh?

I dont want to be the “The wiki is inaccurate”-type of person, but here I go:

Id advise not to heavily rely on the Beyblade wiki for animanga information, regardless of whether or not the info is actually correct or wrong. Plenty of WBO users know that the wiki’s animanga content is messy at the moment (At some point, the wiki told me Ryuto was Ryuga’s brother, for example). Though, kudos for the content moderators currently cleaning it up at the moment and making the information more accurate and readable. In the meantime, theres a lot of misinfo and speculation swept under the radar

The wiki also associates mixes and matches various elements from both the manga and anime as if they were a single continuity such as rankings, characteristics etc. A lot of the people editing the beywiki really have no clue what they are doing.

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I get you saying Rantaro Daigo Wakiya and Zac not deserving to be S tier but Gwyn totally deserves it he demolished the competition when he just started blading she beat Arthur in this third battle he beat Dante on his second battle him being there is much deserved

I mean, Daigo, Wakiya, Zac and Rantaro may not have the necessary feats to be considered legends but the fact that they are iconic fan favourites is more than enough. IMO, iconic, well written characters are just as deserving as standing among legends as the overpowered edgelords (Shu, Lui Free, Aiga).

Adding on, before wiki moderator Moe cleaned up the trivia sections, a lot of the information from there were speculation and unneeded content. Birthdays revealed in the manga were added onto the wiki with information how it ties to their respective characters (Which is hardly said and proven by official sources — I really dont trust users making fan inferences like “Free’s birthday is on Remembrance Day, which alludes to how quiet he is.” Weird!), even though they hardly mean anything to the plot and character

Shoutout to the piece of wiki info (from years ago) that said Red Eye is based on x and y characters from previous series. See, I usually try my best to watch the episodes and find official sources. While speculation and made-up stuff arent as prominent as before, I did lose my trust in the wiki due to made-up animanga information from fans. Primary sources, guys! Watch the episodes yourselves as much as you can, its worth it

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I figure that the strongest bladers or at least top 3 is the protagonist, antagonist, rival to the protagonist.
Also I keep seeing people say Lane is the strongest antagonist in Burst is that backgammon or truth? Cause I don't remember anything that was stated or implied about that.

Well they did imply that lean is the strongest in sparking which theoretically beats out the others.