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[Product]  B-31 Starter Yggdrasil Ring Gyro

Feb. 21, 2016  2:01 PM
 
(Feb. 21, 2016  12:35 PM)Zera Wrote: beybrad I never said I invented the duotron launcher system. I just said it existed before because OkinawamTS said "my double launching system" just to make things clear. I'm not obsessed with claiming things. I just want that everyone gets the credits for their own things and not for stuff from other people. I hope you understand me and you're not angry at me.

So you continue with this
So I guess I have to explain why I said my double launching system

coz so far, I have never seen anybody use this system on the Beyblade Burst video test
but only doing single launch 1 after another, which it doesnt give a really accurate result. like if you were to battle against someone.

and if I am not wrong the Duotron Launcher System wasnt the first coz Takara was the 1st to make the Double Shooter for Plastic and HMS beyblade.

and you are claiming that you were 1 of the 1st to use this system back in 2004 with the Plastic serie which sounds quite strange coz after check your profile which it says that you were born in 1998. which mean that you were only 5 - 6yo at that time.

But I can also tell you that when I 1st came in Japan in 2001 -2002, to buy some Yugioh cards (actually I should say a lot, if remember I did spend over US$1,000). A the shop where I bought most of the cards , also had some beyblades for sale so I bought a Draciel and Dranzer.
and back in my hotel (of course by "my" it's just in expression coz I didnt own that hotel).
I did some launches on the futon coz I didnt have any stadium which I launched 1 after anither but also thought to put the 2 launchers in my left hand to launch the 2 beyblades in same time.
But I am pretty sure that a lot of Japanese did that before I did it.
Feb. 21, 2016  2:39 PM
 
I only said I was one of the first ones to do that in my town and as I said I'm sure that other people in other parts of the world did that long before my friends who toght it to me. I only said it's not your invention and also not my invention. It's the invention of Takara Tomy or the fans. And I really don't want to argue anymore because I don't like when people are angry at each other. Can we talk about YRG in this thread from now on again and if you still want to talk to me please pm me. And I'm sorry if I started a discussion about something that's not related to this thread and made trouble. Unhappy
Feb. 21, 2016  3:12 PM
 
(Feb. 21, 2016  2:39 PM)Zera Wrote: I only said I was one of the first ones to do that in my town and as I said I'm sure that other people in other parts of the world did that long before my friends who toght it to me. I only said it's not your invention and also not my invention. It's the invention of Takara Tomy or the fans. And I really don't want to argue anymore because I don't like when people are angry at each other. Can we talk about YRG in this thread from now on again and if you still want to talk to me please pm me. And I'm sorry if I started a discussion about something that's not related to this thread and made trouble. Unhappy


Mate... He NEVER claimed that it's his invention

That's randomly falsely accusing people of things they never did.
Get the context. It is like " That's my bike " .. But that doesn't mean he invented the bike .. It is simply his bike

If you keep justifying yourself then obviously people will respond to defend themselves publicly. They don't have time to PM
Feb. 21, 2016  3:28 PM
 
@ashton_pinto I never said it's my or his invention. I just said it's wrong to call it his system when it's owned by almost everybody unless it's a thing that he owns. I'm sorry if you missunderstood me. I'M SORRY!
Feb. 21, 2016  3:32 PM
 
(Feb. 21, 2016  3:12 PM)ashton pinto Wrote: Get the context. It is like " That's my bike " .. But that doesn't mean he invented the bike .. It is simply his bike

(Feb. 21, 2016  3:28 PM)Zera Wrote: @ashton_pinto I never said it's my or his invention. I just said it's wrong to call it his system when it's owned by almost everybody unless it's a thing that he owns. I'm sorry if you missunderstood me. I'M SORRY!

I think you're the one who misunderstood. I read it just as ashton read it, FWIW.
Feb. 21, 2016  3:47 PM
 
From the beginning on the only thing I wanted to say is that it's not our invention. It's the invention of Takara Tomy and other fans. I never said he claimed it as his invention. And if he meant it as ashton pinto said it's also ok. It's something he owns and he has the right to say that. I'm sorry for making trouble! T-T
Feb. 21, 2016  5:01 PM
 
this is getting severely off-topic. sorry to mini-mod.
Feb. 22, 2016  11:56 PM
 
Can someone try chaos spread gyro?
Feb. 23, 2016  12:37 AM
 
Gyro has not previously proven very good at preventing burst so combination with Chaos seems risky.
The stamina payoff could be worth it though, we'll see.
Feb. 24, 2016  12:20 AM
 
Did anyone show a pic of the teeth yet?
[Image: 4gn806.jpg]

Here's a pic of the slope of the tip. It seems just like a rivet or whatever holding it on, like EWD or ES
[Image: 39bue.jpg]

Haven't tried it out yet. Got coerced into going out for a bit, but I will definitely be trying it out tonight and posting my thoughts a bit later
Feb. 24, 2016  2:20 AM
 
Even if it is like EWD in terms of the mechanism, the tip is a free moving WD, not a free moving S inside a stationary WD-like outer ring. That alone will prevent many of the jamming issues and weird aggressive patterns EWD had and probably add a small amount of stamina to boot.
Feb. 24, 2016  2:27 AM
 
damn daniel this looks great
Feb. 27, 2016  6:24 AM
 
Sorry it took so long, but I have been a little busy lately and it took a little bit to try everything I could think of with it. I still haven't tested it that extensively, but, after trying a few rounds each with a bunch of combos, I can't find any real use for Gyro or Yggdrasil. Gyro's stamina is pretty poor. The tip doesn't really seem to spin freely enough. Maybe it's because there isn't much weight on it, or maybe just a poor design, but it definitely could have used bearings (although that may have made it too OP).
It's defense seems a little better than Defense or maybe even Claw, but it still doesn't make immobile defense viable and it doesnt make up for the stamina loss, in my opinion
It's best potential, that I can see so far, is as a burster. It still may be viable for this, I will have to do more testing. It may give a little bit more of a resistance to burst, enabling you to better burst the other bey. Though DHD isn't a bad burster itself, and we all know that it has the best stamina. So maybe DHG would be good against DHD, but, if your opponent stalls or attacks, you are in trouble. So yeah, I can't really see a spot for this in the current meta at this time. Maybe V_G would be good. Stars said that he had some luck with it. I didn't, but I didn't use a mint Valkyrie either.
Yggdrasil seems to have some pretty darn good stamina, until it gets hit. It's square shape seems to make it lose its spin rather quickly when hit, so I don't really see this fitting in anywhere either. DHD seems to beat YHD, YHG, YAG, YAD, YAC and everything else that I tried with it, a lot of times by burst. So yeah it doesnt seem to be a burster and seems to lose stamina too fast for stalling. It also isn't that great at pure defense (by this I mean resistance to bursting), so that's out. I think both Wyvern and Neptune are better choices.
But yeah, this is only my first impression and I hope I am wrong. I have only done maybe 40 rounds with it and I hope someone else can find something that I have missed
Feb. 28, 2016  1:04 AM
 
(Feb. 27, 2016  6:24 AM)Zoroaste Wrote: long quote

hey @[Zoroaste]. can you try using it with Minoboros? MHG? Minoboros seems to be very good for risisting burst and bursting other beys, atleast it did with survive so it should be better with gyro.
Feb. 28, 2016  2:42 AM
 
I got my Yggdrasil Ring Gyro today and to be honest, Gyro is not that bad at all. Yes, it don't have such a great balance, but in my opinion it is definitely and upgrade to Survive. The free spinning part give it more stamina, and it wobbliness can somewhat help for defense.
Feb. 28, 2016  5:05 AM
 
Yeah it's not that bad, I just can't find a best of kind combo that I would use it in. Have you found any? From what I saw DHD>DHG. Maybe Spread would be better. I didn't try that.
Feb. 28, 2016  5:21 AM
 
I tried DSS vs DSG/DHG
and DSG/DHG lost everytime

(Feb. 28, 2016  5:05 AM)Zoroaste Wrote: Yeah it's not that bad, I just can't find a best of kind combo that I would use it in. Have you found any? From what I saw DHD>DHG. Maybe Spread would be better. I didn't try that.
Feb. 28, 2016  5:22 AM
 
I think people has just a go to for Heavy. Heavy isn't that OP, its very versatile but its not the best suitable parts for all combos. I heard Heavy was unbalanced... it could probably and its a bad thing for Gyro because its tip is wobbling a lot. personnaly I never noticed that heavy is that unbalanced. but a more stable disk should work well on Gyro more than Heavy.

Unfortunatly I don't own it right now but its my observation on multiple results and seeing it in real today(missingno. have it at the event today)

I think these disk should be tested on Gyro: Armed, Spread, Central, Ring and may be Oval(not to revive the subject but I think it could work on Gyro like GB145 could work for synergie. we never know)

I think too that DeathScyther could be not suitable to use on Gyro. I think it has too much recoil for Gyro.

What other tests you have done guys?
Feb. 28, 2016  10:22 AM
 
Can somebody do some tests with Wyvern Ring Gyro because I think that combo would be good because Wyvern helps resisting Bursts what´s a problem of Gyro and the centrifugal force of Ring would stabilize Gyro and give it more stamina.
Feb. 29, 2016  1:14 AM
 
Feb. 29, 2016  2:12 AM
 
I'll be straight here: Yggdrasil sucks. I've tried a whole bunch of combos to no avail. Yggdrasil is simply too easy to Burst to be worthwhile for anything.
Feb. 29, 2016  2:27 AM
 
Somehow I'm not surprised. Yggdrasil reminds me a lot of Forbidden from MFB in terms of its design, and we all know how bad Forbidden was ...
Feb. 29, 2016  4:14 AM
 
Let's not forget about Rock Bison!! Haha. The worst engine gear bey out there. Although I really like it. I like to do battles with different setups on two rock bison bases : 3
Feb. 29, 2016  6:52 AM
 
(Feb. 29, 2016  4:14 AM)Zoroaste Wrote: Let's not forget about Rock Bison!! Haha. The worst engine gear bey out there. Although I really like it. I like to do battles with different setups on two rock bison bases : 3

Rock Bisons Blade Base works nice with Trypios Attack Ring in my opinion. Smile
Feb. 29, 2016  4:32 PM
 
Chaos wing gyro is probably one of the best stamina types I can think of, or chaos spread gyro. Someone do a video of this!
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