[Product]  B-31 Starter Yggdrasil Ring Gyro

Thanks for the photos and video.

Not too impressed with Gyro so far unfortunately but maybe it'll get better.
How are yggdrasil teeth?
(Feb. 19, 2016  4:31 AM)Hato Wrote: Wow, that looks pretty rounded from that angle...

Along with the fact this doesn't seem to have a bearing, let's see how good this will do, haha.

I took the picture to show the bearing or screw system not the bottom
otherwise the tip is like from Burning Kerberous

(Feb. 19, 2016  5:28 AM)1234beyblade Wrote: How are yggdrasil teeth?
the teeth does seem to but really strong, you dont hear a big click like for Amaterios or Xcalibur
A video that shows that Yggdrasil is about as large as Trident, which is probably not good for stamina, and it also shows exactly which part of the Gyro Driver free-spins. That small part can be compared to EDS, in the end, but the annotation mentions a bearing, so who knows ...

from looking at annotation it says YRG can spin for 1min 20secs where DHG can spin for 2 mins. anyways i hope it's lower friction will help Chaos in resisting burst, so we can make C_G.

i'm also intrested to see how DRG will perform [as lower friction will help deathsyther in resisting burst, so it may become next OHD]

edit:- by seeing video, i think OHD is still king. so i have more hopes with CR/AG

edit 2:- is there is any diffrance between YRG's Ring anc B-22's Ring?
here are some video I made with my double shooting system
like I said to Zoroaste on skype

DeathScyther Heavy Gyro vs DeathScyther Spread Survive

DeathScyther Heavy Gyro vs Odin Heavy Needle

Odin Heavy Needle vs DeathScyther Heavy Gyro

Yggdrasil Ring Gyro vs DeathScyther Heavy Defense
Gyro seem to have a really bad balance and not a such good stamina...

Just like ES, haha...
by looking at Oki's video i think Gyro is very bad in controling recoil. DHG look like a good combos but as MissingNo. said it's bad balance and poor recoil control [for not much more stamina the Defence or Survive] makes it Burst ES [rather then Burst BGrin]

Spoilt-Spoiler (Click to View)
can anyone make video of Battling DHG against VFX? also try CRG if possible Wink
I hope that Yggdrasil doesn't end up being ANOTHER labelled Stamina layer to suck since it actually looks so cool! Stock wise, I'm surprised it beat DHD for stamina a bit.
What is the weight of Yggdrasil's layer?
(Feb. 19, 2016  3:34 PM)OkinawamTS Wrote: here are some video I made with my double shooting system
like I said to Zoroaste on skype
Thanks for sharing that Oki! That is an awesome technique. It will be super useful for stamina testing. I am going to start practicing it tonight!
The last video seems to indicate that Gyro's stamina is actually a good deal better than comboing it with Deathscyther might suggest. This implies to me that a well balanced layer can counter that inherent flaw but the frequency with which layers burst on the driver seems like a much more crippling weakness.

I would say that the part is worth exploring but, in all likelyhood, never going to be anything truly amazing.
yeah, my double launching technique give a more accurate result for battle
coz when shoot separately the beys, the time that you shoot the 2nd bey the 1st bey has already lost some power and stamina.

and right now thinking of away to fix the 2 launchers together for a better and easier away to shoot

(Feb. 19, 2016  8:08 PM)Zoroaste Wrote:
(Feb. 19, 2016  3:34 PM)OkinawamTS Wrote: here are some video I made with my double shooting system
like I said to Zoroaste on skype
Thanks for sharing that Oki! That is an awesome technique. It will be super useful for stamina testing. I am going to start practicing it tonight!
I'm curious how it performs with Spread or Ring. Heavy doesn't have great balance and wobbling can kill it pretty fast. Looking forward to get mine Smile
(Feb. 19, 2016  3:34 PM)OkinawamTS Wrote: here are some video I made with my double shooting system
like I said to Zoroaste on skype

It´s not YOUR "double shooting system". My friends and I did that already back in 2004 with ripcordlaunchers and I´m sure other people did that, too. I did that again in 2010 with light and string launchers and I also glued and taped them together and even made a handle for that. In 2010/2011 Hasbro and Rapidity created a special ripcord launcher for this which was called the "Duotron Launcher" (I have the black and yellow one from Hasbro which came with an Earth Virgo GB145BS and a Storm Capricorn M145Q and I have two fake ones from Rapidity) and in 2012 DerSpielpirat created the ultimate multiple shoot string launcher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNsbYfq7ktU so please don´t call it yours when other people did that a long time before you. Thanks.

I just saw Leotoy uploaded a video on Yggdrasil Ring Gyro. Smile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1fp11yvLQo

marutti Can you please do Odin Ring Gyro vs. Odin Ring Survive? Smile
Zera
Donot give credits to Rapidity, a criminal company .. Claiming that they 'created' a duotron launcher.
They copied it.. I mean, stole it


Also, in no way okis statement sounded like he was the 1st to perform such a technique or a system
Thanks Smile
(Feb. 20, 2016  12:20 PM)Zera Wrote:
(Feb. 19, 2016  3:34 PM)OkinawamTS Wrote: here are some video I made with my double shooting system
like I said to Zoroaste on skype

It´s not YOUR "double shooting system". My friends and I did that already back in 2004 with ripcordlaunchers and I´m sure other people did that, too. I did that again in 2010 with light and string launchers and I also glued and taped them together and even made a handle for that. In 2010/2011 Hasbro and Rapidity created a special ripcord launcher for this which was called the "Duotron Launcher" (I have the black and yellow one from Hasbro which came with an Earth Virgo GB145BS and a Storm Capricorn M145Q and I have two fake ones from Rapidity) and in 2012 DerSpielpirat created the ultimate multiple shoot string launcher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNsbYfq7ktU so please don´t call it yours when other people did that a long time before you. Thanks.

I just saw Leotoy uploaded a video on Yggdrasil Ring Gyro. Smile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1fp11yvLQo

marutti Can you please do Odin Ring Gyro vs. Odin Ring Survive? Smile

First of all, Rapidity are copying criminals, don't credit them with inventions. Second of all, Oki's post didn't even sound like it was taking credit for the double shooting system. Don't know why you got all aggressive about it.
Hm, gankoba's video made me notice that Yggdrasil does not have the reinforced ring in its centre, like Xcalibur had :
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-B-23-St...pid1303739

Actually, perhaps Neptune, who was released since, does not have it either, but hopefully all Layers that are really Attack types are chosen for the reinforced ring in the future ... Knowing the obvious wear issue, I thought TAKARA-TOMY would just make the change in all Layers currently produced.
(Feb. 20, 2016  5:49 PM)Kai-V Wrote: Hm, gankoba's video made me notice that Yggdrasil does not have the reinforced ring in its centre, like Xcalibur had :
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-B-23-St...pid1303739

Actually, perhaps Neptune, who was released since, does not have it either, but hopefully all Layers that are really Attack types are chosen for the reinforced ring in the future ... Knowing the obvious wear issue, I thought TAKARA-TOMY would just make the change in all Layers currently produced.

Yeah, I was wondering about this myself, too. I think the issue might be that the reinforced design just inherently causes more grip than TT wants for releases like this? Though, that's just a total guess ...

Also, @[Zera], I am not sure why you are obsessed with taking ownership of things that you really can't take ownership of. You posted in a few Customization topics claiming they were your idea first, too. All Oki said was "my double shooting system", which is a totally normal thing to say since he both owns it and built it himself. He didn't write an essay claiming his was the first homemade double launcher design ever or something. Please calm down and stop being hostile to members who've done literally nothing to you.

And BTW, the original Duotron Launcher is ancient:

[img]http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/toybox/cabinet/toy/toy0712_1.jpg[/img]
Back to Yggdrasil
officially Yggdrasil is an immense Mythical Tree,
and from the original design that TakaraTomy put in their pre-order catalog , the design of the layer was like a tree
but now, it has 2 Dragon head on it and nothing about a tree anymore
One of the three mythical entities most closely related to Yggdrassil was Nidhogg, a "wyrm" or wingless dragon trapped in the underworld beneath its roots, only able to eat its way out as fast as the roots grew back.

Nidhogg is very much not part of the tree itself though so placing it on the bey would still be weird. Guess we'll see the official explanation when someone translates the manga.
(Feb. 20, 2016  6:56 PM)OkinawamTS Wrote: Back to Yggdrasil
officially Yggdrasil is an immense Mythical Tree,
and from the original design that TakaraTomy put in their pre-order catalog , the design of the layer was like a tree
but now, it has 2 Dragon head on it and nothing about a tree anymore
Can you post a picture of the original design? I'm really curious as to how it was intended to look.
(Feb. 20, 2016  7:35 PM)Kevo Wrote:
(Feb. 20, 2016  6:56 PM)OkinawamTS Wrote: Back to Yggdrasil
officially Yggdrasil is an immense Mythical Tree,
and from the original design that TakaraTomy put in their pre-order catalog , the design of the layer was like a tree
but now, it has 2 Dragon head on it and nothing about a tree anymore
Can you post a picture of the original design? I'm really curious as to how it was intended to look.

not sure if I still have the picture but I will check

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seems like I deleted it after that I made my COMING SOON pre-order picture.
but from what I remember the Layer had to be brown and green
beybrad I never said I invented the duotron launcher system. I just said it existed before because OkinawamTS said "my double launching system" just to make things clear. I'm not obsessed with claiming things. I just want that everyone gets the credits for their own things and not for stuff from other people. I hope you understand me and you're not angry at me.