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If the "old rival" thing is referring to a returning Defense-Type user, then my guesses lean towards Wakiya or Phi as they seem like the most likely candidates in my eyes.

I mean no disrespect to Kensuke or Gwyn because I honestly really do like them as characters and would love to see them make a comeback too. But Kensuke (in the manga) had about as much relevance as Cuza (in the manga) did, namely none, and the Kerbeus line just kinda faded into the background with little to no effort in its stock combo.

With Gwyn, whilst he was a major character in GT and has more of a chance than Kensuke, Genesis' Infinite Lock System would make it difficult to translate into Sparking. So they would either have to, a). Make it one whole Layer just like Regalia Genesis and Big Bang Genesis, removing the Layer's customizability with the Chassis, b). Make a special Chassis and Chip that are free-spinning to emulate the gimmick, or c). Remove the Infinite Lock System entirely in order to make it customizable with other Sparking Layers.

With Wakiya and Phi, they're both major enough characters in the manga whilst with Wyvern and Phoenix, they're both beys that can translate into the Sparking System just fine IMO.
My thoughts still point to it being Wyvern and Wakiya. While it could very well be Phi or Gwynn, I feel Wakiya feels more like a "rival" compared to the other two and he fits the "old rival" title more.
(Jul. 30, 2020  4:00 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:
(Jul. 30, 2020  1:15 PM)snoc Wrote: There's problems with Wakiya
1. He's a important character shown multiple times, but is removed from the anime
2. Hes not a character in the anime, why give him an entire booster

Delta and Diabolos exist, even though it was a random booster. It seems like some RBV prizes will be in the anime and some will not. GT had 4 rbv beys that weren't in the anime. It's possible that other beys may appear in releases, but not in the anime itself. Things like that could be fair game.

Yeah, but if its not gonna be in the anime they wont give it a full booster. this is one of the only thing for its mpnth (or the only thing). Why focus on it when it wont be animated.
This is so Ashura.

Amane is back and the final villain. We were right all along but we got the season wrong. That's why Diabolos had such terrible parts, when Delta does appear in the anime, Amane forces him to use terrible parts and beats him over and over again.
(Jul. 30, 2020  6:27 PM)KinkoUsagi Wrote: This is so Ashura.

Amane is back and the final villain. We were right all along but we got the season wrong. That's why Diabolos had such terrible parts, when Delta does appear in the anime, Amane forces him to use terrible parts and beats him over and over again.
This is true.
WAKIYAAAAAAA

WYVERRNNNNNNN
The only defensive rival I can think of is maybe Gwyn and Genesis
(Jul. 30, 2020  8:18 PM)Valger Wrote: Neil degrasse dogeson

i was on the BB app and got random beys oN it

What?

(Jul. 30, 2020  5:12 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: If the "old rival" thing is referring to a returning Defense-Type user, then my guesses lean towards Wakiya or Phi as they seem like the most likely candidates in my eyes.

I mean no disrespect to Kensuke or Gwyn because I honestly really do like them as characters and would love to see them make a comeback too. But Kensuke (in the manga) had about as much relevance as Cuza (in the manga) did, namely none, and the Kerbeus line just kinda faded into the background with little to no effort in its stock combo.

With Gwyn, whilst he was a major character in GT and has more of a chance than Kensuke, Genesis' Infinite Lock System would make it difficult to translate into Sparking. So they would either have to, a). Make it one whole Layer just like Regalia Genesis and Big Bang Genesis, removing the Layer's customizability with the Chassis, b). Make a special Chassis and Chip that are free-spinning to emulate the gimmick, or c). Remove the Infinite Lock System entirely in order to make it customizable with other Sparking Layers.

With Wakiya and Phi, they're both major enough characters in the manga whilst with Wyvern and Phoenix, they're both beys that can translate into the Sparking System just fine IMO.

They say Old Rival like its someone coming back we haven't seen though. We've seen Phi in the manga as well as Wakiya. Gwyn as well. Kensuke and Amane are the only actually relevant people that could be scene as returning old rivals that haven't appeared yet.
(Jul. 30, 2020  8:35 PM)snoc Wrote:
(Jul. 30, 2020  8:18 PM)Valger Wrote: Neil degrasse dogeson

i was on the BB app and got random beys oN it

What?

(Jul. 30, 2020  5:12 PM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: If the "old rival" thing is referring to a returning Defense-Type user, then my guesses lean towards Wakiya or Phi as they seem like the most likely candidates in my eyes.

I mean no disrespect to Kensuke or Gwyn because I honestly really do like them as characters and would love to see them make a comeback too. But Kensuke (in the manga) had about as much relevance as Cuza (in the manga) did, namely none, and the Kerbeus line just kinda faded into the background with little to no effort in its stock combo.

With Gwyn, whilst he was a major character in GT and has more of a chance than Kensuke, Genesis' Infinite Lock System would make it difficult to translate into Sparking. So they would either have to, a). Make it one whole Layer just like Regalia Genesis and Big Bang Genesis, removing the Layer's customizability with the Chassis, b). Make a special Chassis and Chip that are free-spinning to emulate the gimmick, or c). Remove the Infinite Lock System entirely in order to make it customizable with other Sparking Layers.

With Wakiya and Phi, they're both major enough characters in the manga whilst with Wyvern and Phoenix, they're both beys that can translate into the Sparking System just fine IMO.

They say Old Rival like its someone coming back we haven't seen though. We've seen Phi in the manga as well as Wakiya. Gwyn as well. Kensuke and Amane are the only actually relevant people that could be scene as returning old rivals that haven't appeared yet.

Has Fubuki appeared yet?
Nope fubuki hasnt appeared yet he could be one candidate too forneus is a defence type
(Jul. 30, 2020  9:59 PM)GT_fan Wrote:
(Jul. 30, 2020  8:35 PM)snoc Wrote: What?


They say Old Rival like its someone coming back we haven't seen though. We've seen Phi in the manga as well as Wakiya. Gwyn as well. Kensuke and Amane are the only actually relevant people that could be scene as returning old rivals that haven't appeared yet.

Has Fubuki appeared yet?

Not yet, but he isn't really relevant lol. I feel he should've but they kinda just  forgot about him lol.
(Jul. 30, 2020  10:11 PM)snoc Wrote:
(Jul. 30, 2020  9:59 PM)GT_fan Wrote: Has Fubuki appeared yet?

Not yet, but he isn't really relevant lol. I feel he should've but they kinda just  forgot about him lol.


I think Fubuki would be a really interesting return since he's also Shu's apprentice, also would be nice to see a new Forneus.
Wyvern does not make sense the last Wyvern bey was beyblade burst God. Gwynn seems to be good because he a fan favorite. Fight me if think otherwise. The fight me part is a joke of the brothers wanting to battle lui. I will repeat the right me part is a joke. Don't give me percents. I just want to make a joke towards the brothers of sparking
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:32 AM)kai edits Wrote: Wyvern does not make sense the last Wyvern bey was beyblade burst God. Gwynn seems to be good because he a fan favorite. Fight me if think otherwise. The fight me part is a joke of the brothers wanting to battle lui. I will repeat the right me part is a joke. Don't give me percents. I just want to make a joke towards the brothers of sparking

There had not been an Odin since the Dual layer system and yet we got an Odin in GT. Plus Wakiya was well liked as well as Wyvern, and as an old rival, he is very possible for this booster.
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:37 AM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:32 AM)kai edits Wrote: Wyvern does not make sense the last Wyvern bey was beyblade burst God. Gwynn seems to be good because he a fan favorite. Fight me if think otherwise. The fight me part is a joke of the brothers wanting to battle lui. I will repeat the right me part is a joke. Don't give me percents. I just want to make a joke towards the brothers of sparking

There had not been an Odin since the Dual layer system and yet we got an Odin in GT. Plus Wakiya was well liked as well as Wyvern, and as an old rival, he is very possible for this booster.

Maybe and gwynn can be possible too
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:32 AM)kai edits Wrote: Wyvern does not make sense the last Wyvern bey was beyblade burst God. Gwynn seems to be good because he a fan favorite. Fight me if think otherwise. The fight me part is a joke of the brothers wanting to battle lui. I will repeat the right me part is a joke. Don't give me percents. I just want to make a joke towards the brothers of sparking

Satan didn't have an evolution since God as well, and yet we have Curse Satan. Also Gwyn was 20th most popular when TT did their popularity contest for Burst characters, while Wakiya was 4th (link to the contest: https://www.beyblade.jp/campaign/vote2020/ )
But really, this thread shouldn't be about speculation, but actual information or opinions on the product. The speculation should go into the Wishful Thinking & Speculation thread
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:37 AM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:32 AM)kai edits Wrote: Wyvern does not make sense the last Wyvern bey was beyblade burst God. Gwynn seems to be good because he a fan favorite. Fight me if think otherwise. The fight me part is a joke of the brothers wanting to battle lui. I will repeat the right me part is a joke. Don't give me percents. I just want to make a joke towards the brothers of sparking

There had not been an Odin since the Dual layer system and yet we got an Odin in GT. Plus Wakiya was well liked as well as Wyvern, and as an old rival, he is very possible for this booster.

Theirs that but wakiya was rank 5th while gwynn rank 20 on that popularity poll. His very much like specially by japaneses
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:38 AM)JoMario67 Wrote:
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:32 AM)kai edits Wrote: Wyvern does not make sense the last Wyvern bey was beyblade burst God. Gwynn seems to be good because he a fan favorite. Fight me if think otherwise. The fight me part is a joke of the brothers wanting to battle lui. I will repeat the right me part is a joke. Don't give me percents. I just want to make a joke towards the brothers of sparking

Satan didn't have an evolution since God as well, and yet we have Curse Satan.  Also Gwyn was 20th most popular when TT did their popularity contest for Burst characters, while Wakiya was 4th (link to the contest: https://www.beyblade.jp/campaign/vote2020/ )
But really, this thread shouldn't be about speculation, but actual information or opinions on the product.  The speculation should go into the Wishful Thinking & Speculation thread

There no proof of anything on this thread about the booster besides the date so this considered spam this should be asked in beyblade future release thread. This weird that thread is fighting over a spinning tops( no offence you guys I love this website)
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:43 AM)kai edits Wrote:
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:38 AM)JoMario67 Wrote: Satan didn't have an evolution since God as well, and yet we have Curse Satan.  Also Gwyn was 20th most popular when TT did their popularity contest for Burst characters, while Wakiya was 4th (link to the contest: https://www.beyblade.jp/campaign/vote2020/ )
But really, this thread shouldn't be about speculation, but actual information or opinions on the product.  The speculation should go into the Wishful Thinking & Speculation thread

There no proof of anything on this thread about the booster besides the date so this considered spam this should be asked in beyblade future release thread. This weird that thread is fighting over a spinning tops( no offence you guys I love this website)
Bro he's just making a statement to your opinion Which means if you're says there is no proof of anything about this booster then you should consider yourself spamming 5 other threads about genesis  (no offense)
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:43 AM)kai edits Wrote:
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:38 AM)JoMario67 Wrote: Satan didn't have an evolution since God as well, and yet we have Curse Satan.  Also Gwyn was 20th most popular when TT did their popularity contest for Burst characters, while Wakiya was 4th (link to the contest: https://www.beyblade.jp/campaign/vote2020/ )
But really, this thread shouldn't be about speculation, but actual information or opinions on the product.  The speculation should go into the Wishful Thinking & Speculation thread

There no proof of anything on this thread about the booster besides the date so this considered spam this should be asked in beyblade future release thread. This weird that thread is fighting over a spinning tops( no offence you guys I love this website)

Not at all true. People are even speculating in this thread (including you) about what this booster could be. JoMario67 was just making a point about how because Wakiya was more popular in the official polls than Gwynn was.
(Jul. 31, 2020  1:50 AM)Needforspeed Wrote:
(Jul. 31, 2020  12:43 AM)kai edits Wrote: There no proof of anything on this thread about the booster besides the date so this considered spam this should be asked in beyblade future release thread. This weird that thread is fighting over a spinning tops( no offence you guys I love this website)
Bro he's just making a statement to your opinion Which means if you're says there is no proof of anything about this booster then you should consider yourself spamming 5 other threads about genesis  (no offense)
Actually I'm saying genesis has more of chance than wyvern cause gt was better than beyblade burst God in my opinion.
(Jul. 31, 2020  2:22 AM)kai edits Wrote:
(Jul. 31, 2020  1:50 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Bro he's just making a statement to your opinion Which means if you're says there is no proof of anything about this booster then you should consider yourself spamming 5 other threads about genesis  (no offense)
Actually I'm saying genesis has more of chance than wyvern cause gt was better than beyblade burst God in my opinion.
Based on the opinions I’ve seen beyblade burst god is usually everyones favourite or second favourite season while rise/gt wasn’t all too popular which by that logic would mean Wyvern has a higher chance but either way, season popularity usually doesn’t matter. What really sells this as being a new Wyvern is the apparent “old rival” description. Wakiya can be considered a rival sort of character and again, we gotta put emphasis on the “old” part. That being said Gwynn isn’t really an “old” rival while Wakiya has been around since seasons 1-2 and is more of a veteran than the rest of the legendary defense bladers who currently have unreleased beys.
(Jul. 31, 2020  2:22 AM)kai edits Wrote:
(Jul. 31, 2020  1:50 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Bro he's just making a statement to your opinion Which means if you're says there is no proof of anything about this booster then you should consider yourself spamming 5 other threads about genesis  (no offense)
Actually I'm saying genesis has more of chance than wyvern cause gt was better than beyblade burst God in my opinion.

Your opinion on a season of Beyblade Burst does not effect the chances of Genesis being this product, especially when that opinion of yours is an unpopular one among Burst fans.
(Jul. 31, 2020  2:53 AM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Jul. 31, 2020  2:22 AM)kai edits Wrote: Actually I'm saying genesis has more of chance than wyvern cause gt was better than beyblade burst God in my opinion.

Your opinion on a season of Beyblade Burst does not effect the chances of Genesis being this product, especially when that opinion of yours is an unpopular one among Burst fans.

Who cares about if its unpopular lol
(Jul. 31, 2020  2:54 AM)snoc Wrote:
(Jul. 31, 2020  2:53 AM)BuilderROB Wrote: Your opinion on a season of Beyblade Burst does not effect the chances of Genesis being this product, especially when that opinion of yours is an unpopular one among Burst fans.

Who cares about if its unpopular lol
Wyvern is ok but I would love to have another genesis