Nintendo won't be ending Pokemon any time soon. Not when these games continue to easily sell more than 10 million copies. Like any company they love money, which is why they release so many Pokemon games in the first place.

As for the 3DS complaints, guys the DS platform launched in 2004, lol. It's time to move onto better hardware. It's a PS1->PS2 thing, not a DS->DSi thing. That said, the game doesn't look to be taking advantage of the 3DS to any great capacity. Little Battlers eXperience Explosive Boost, Medarot 7, and Gyrozetter 3DS all have better looking RPG exploration than this which is full of jaggies, and flat textures.

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I just saw the trailer and the game looks awesome! Now i just have to get a 3ds

That said, the game doesn't look to be taking advantage of the 3DS to any great capacity. Little Battlers eXperience Explosive Boost, Medarot 7, and Gyrozetter 3DS all have better looking RPG exploration than this which is full of jaggies, and flat textures.

I'm kind of hoping, in regards to jaggies at least, that we've only gotten video from the un-optimized cut of the game, and that a bit more work will be done in that regard; the battle segments look extremely rough-cut, and even in the sprite-based games we usually got some noticable differences from the initial screenshots. The hardware can definitely work a whole lot harder than this, for sure, but the actual style of the game is really charming, flawed texture work aside. I was expecting to reel at switching from sprites, but I'm actually quite enthusiastic.

That said, it's a hard call to make on what their division of labor is like with simultaneous international release and entirely new Pokémon. It also brings to mind questions of transfer(which will hopefully not require two 3DSes, but rather allow for DSes to transfer over from old games), and how much content they can really pack into it. If they're making shortcuts on the graphics, it could mean good things in other areas - and I'd certainly be fine accepting the visible state of affairs if it meant more effort being put into other things, but since that's not really how game design teams work, at all, I don't expect it to exactly pan out that way.

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Some manner of Octopus.

Whew, I nearly missed the existence of BW2, and now this... . _.

lol For sure I get amused at how people argue about the designs. Old ones, new ones... Like somebody way back here said, nothing is 100% good/bad...

Also, I think we should know better that, the more stuff is created, the harder is it to make something out and out original/new/unseem. Like, come on guys, it's over FIVE HUNDRED Pokemons now. I already've seem LOTS of people complaining at how Beyblade is sucking in originality or how they go with trippy themes (EGs below). And we barely reached... Like, three hundred animals/themes? Maybe less.

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uuhh all da beyz luk da seimi/rofl reeptad piçees/anuder dragun bey?/metal sukzzzzz/lol horse r gueys

Congrats if you actually understood what I typed.

And well... 3DS only. Well, every game company tends to "upgrade" their shelves for the next generation. Graphics aside, it's good to remember (they say) the 3DS cartridge has loads of aditional space for the game over DS usual space. Well, that and 3DS processing power. Also, the graphics kind of match what Pokemon was always fond of: smooth, easy designs. The starters seems quite okay for me...

•Chespin - [...] but if the speculations are true that is a Fighting/Grass hybrid, it's chances of being my choice Starter are definitely zero. [...]

... That's 4x weakness to Flying. Just taking a note, as Flying move-bearing pokemons appear rather early in the game...
(For looks, here's a complete type chart)

EDIT: Well, Hazel pretty much said it about the 3DS part x_x

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Keep your way, by your strength. Not at anyone's cost or fall. It's your way, as much as it's easier to repeat this very phrase than making it. At all.

big news about the "mascots"

See this guy

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His name is gonna be Xerneas(pronounced ZURR-nee-us)

And this one

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this guy is gonna be called Yveltal (pronounced ee-VELL-tall )

Personally the sounds seem odd at first but I love the exotic feel of them ESPECIALLY Yveltal That screams Legend to me!

*All credit goes to Serebii.net for info pics and all

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(Wow this thread filled up fast )
Yeah, I knew that it wasn't actually your own original idea... but still... XD
Hm... I like the new titles, and yeah, is it just me or the multicolored bits resemble a double helix?

The problem with the new style and view that is shown so far in screen shorts is that, in my own opinion at-least, you cannot see as-well, and the whole 'heads = bigger than body' setup just doesn't look right

I mean, if they are going to move forwards (Which I am not saying that they shouldn't) they should at-least take some time and make the graphics, or rather people much better than any current 3DS, or even DS, RPG's, since falling behind in the gaming world just when you switch to a new console could got tragically wrong.

Just my opinions chaps :3 ~

Graphics are secondary in absolutely all ways to game content and refinement/consistency of gameplay.

Large head disproportionately small body has always been the style of Pokémon art, and if they tried pseudorealism with it, it would lose absolutely all of its charm in an instant.

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Some manner of Octopus.

Graphics are secondary in absolutely all ways to game content and refinement/consistency of gameplay.

Large head disproportionately small body has always been the style of Pokémon art, and if they tried pseudorealism with it, it would lose absolutely all of its charm in an instant.

Yeah, I see your point, but I still think (from what i've seen from screen shots so far) that they could have a slightly different angle to the new one, since you cannot see as much, and I think that that is what makes me feel as though the proportions should be slightly changed, I mean even if their main body just becomes slightly ... plumper ?
I'm not sure.
Overall, I love the new stuff and I think that it is good that they are finally moving forwards(Although I do now need to get a 3DS ) but my only negative points really are the new screen shot angles. it makes me feel more like I'm watching someone play some sort of MMORPG such as RuneScape.
Maybe they should've taken a bit more time on this particular game . . ?

IM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS GAME WOOOOOOOOOOOOOH THE ONLY PROBLEM IS..............i cant pick what starter i want

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I believe that fire is generally the strongest.
And fennec looks the most un-old recoloured pokemon IMO XD

I believe that fire is generally the strongest.
And fennec looks the most un-old recoloured pokemon IMO XD

what u talking about son?
but seriously my only dissapointment so far is the 3d it just doesent look like a pokemon game in my opinion pokemon should be kept 2d

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my selling thread

I believe that fire is generally the strongest.
And fennec looks the most un-old recoloured pokemon IMO XD

what u talking about son?
but seriously my only dissapointment so far is the 3d it just doesent look like a pokemon game in my opinion pokemon should be kept 2d

Q1: Pokemon.
Q2: Yes. doesn't look quite right.
Q3: No. time to move on.

I believe that fire is generally the strongest.
And fennec looks the most un-old recoloured pokemon IMO XD

what u talking about son?
but seriously my only dissapointment so far is the 3d it just doesent look like a pokemon game in my opinion pokemon should be kept 2d

Q1: Pokemon.
Q2: Yes. doesn't look quite right.
Q3: No. time to move on.

i know but i cant give my opinion until i have played but my prediction everyones gonna buy y version

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Hm... For once, I do not know which of the legendaries I prefer. They both look pretty epic to be honest.
But loads of people seem to be wanting the go 'THE WAY OF THE Y', so I might go 'X'.

That seems like a genius way to decide which game to buy.
Or you could actually wait to see what exclusives each game has and what differs between the two other than just the Legendary? Cuz you know, they do that.

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I believe that fire is generally the strongest.
And fennec looks the most un-old recoloured pokemon IMO XD

Swampert, Empoleon, Sceptile, Blastoise, Venusaur, Feraligatr, and Samurott all beat their fellow respective fire-types in both casual and competitive functionality(excluding Blaziken in gen 5's Dream World shenanigans)... in terms of casual play, the Water starter is almost always the better choice for utility and STAB Surf/Waterfall(depending on dominating stat) being monstrous. There is not any Pokémon with a remotely similar physiology to Froakie, despite there being several frogs already, though Fennekin is considerably different from the existing foxes, too.

As for buying things based on being a contrarian and nothing else, that's just straight up stupid, right along with making any such decision at this stage in things.

Maybe they should've taken a bit more time on this particular game . . ?

October is a rather long time from now and this game has likely had its own dedicated work team during BW2's development/release/meta.

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Some manner of Octopus.

People saying Fennekin is a vulpix rip off forget that Vulpix/ninetales is based off a Kitsune not a real fox

Also these starters well The grass and fire break the trend a bit

Fire starters are usually based on the chinese zodiac Fennekiun breaks this unless its filling in for dog

Chespin breaks the "reptilian aspect" of the grass unless it is based off of some lizard/mammal hybrid.

As for Froakie hes the only one going in line of tradition in terms of "something based on living in the water". My two sense,

What i hope is what they did with unova and have all the new pokemon be fresh and no evos or pre evos but even if this doesn't happen thats ok because this game looks AWESOME!

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i like the new legandairys though they look pretty cool and the starters i guess

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Chidori!!!!!

Fire starters are usually based on the chinese zodiac Fennekiun breaks this unless its filling in for dog

Chespin breaks the "reptilian aspect" of the grass unless it is based off of some lizard/mammal hybrid.

As for Froakie hes the only one going in line of tradition in terms of "something based on living in the water". My two sense,

Reptilian aspect...? Give me a few examples, Snivy is the only reptilian grass starter I've seen...

As for the Froakie thing, well obviously any Water type is going to try to be based off of living in water That's why it is a Water type...lol

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I was looking thought the Internet about this game and I found a rumored evolution of chespin. Either the second or third.

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Image comes from this depicting second evos (final forms) of the starters. While they look nice, they are definitely fake.

No info about any other Pokémon has been released yet.

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"In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. The world is often unkind to new talent, new creations. The new needs friends. Last night, I experienced something new: an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about fine cooking is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto, "Anyone can cook." But I realize, only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist; but a great artist can come from anywhere."

-Anton Ego/Peter O'Toole (1932-2013)

Fire starters are usually based on the chinese zodiac Fennekiun breaks this unless its filling in for dog

Chespin breaks the "reptilian aspect" of the grass unless it is based off of some lizard/mammal hybrid.

As for Froakie hes the only one going in line of tradition in terms of "something based on living in the water". My two sense,

Reptilian aspect...? Give me a few examples, Snivy is the only reptilian grass starter I've seen...

As for the Froakie thing, well obviously any Water type is going to try to be based off of living in water That's why it is a Water type...lol

Ok

Bulbasaur line is based off of plant eating dinosaurs they have that reptillian feel

Chikorita line takes on a "long neck" definition looking like a brontosaur

Treeko aside being a gecko its final evolution reminds me of an iguanadon

and as for turtwig it has a mix of turtle and anklyosaur in the design

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thanks to bladerruler for my sig

Also, to Hazel and To:

The Pokémon English website confirms that the footage in the video is definitely not the final product. Granted, there will be streamlining and improvements to graphics regarding the 3D system, both battle and overworld. The graphics for the Pokémon were pulled off very nicely though, and this looks to have a ton of potential.

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"In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. The world is often unkind to new talent, new creations. The new needs friends. Last night, I experienced something new: an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about fine cooking is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto, "Anyone can cook." But I realize, only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist; but a great artist can come from anywhere."

-Anton Ego/Peter O'Toole (1932-2013)

Fire starters are usually based on the chinese zodiac Fennekiun breaks this unless its filling in for dog

Chespin breaks the "reptilian aspect" of the grass unless it is based off of some lizard/mammal hybrid.

As for Froakie hes the only one going in line of tradition in terms of "something based on living in the water". My two sense,

Reptilian aspect...? Give me a few examples, Snivy is the only reptilian grass starter I've seen...

As for the Froakie thing, well obviously any Water type is going to try to be based off of living in water That's why it is a Water type...lol

What are you talking about?
Bulbasaur's evolution line is based off of dinosaurs, which are reptiles. "Saur" is even included in the names.
Chikorita's evolution line is based off of dinosaurs, specifically sauropods yet again.
Treecko's evolution line are obviously lizards.
Turtwig's evolution line are turtles and tortoises, which contrary to popular belief, are reptiles and not amphibians.

I agree with Clonetos' opinion. Chespin resembles more of a rodent, which is a mammal by the way, then any of the other reptilian Grass starters.

EDIT: Quadruple-ninja'd. I am REALLY getting too old for this...

If those pictures Ga'hooleone posted were real, I would probably pick the water starter. Those looked awesome, all three.

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