~~~~~MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF~~~~~

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Hey guys! I haven't made a combination thread in like a month and a half... Um... Awkward. XD

Well, I spent a great deal of time and thought on this one, so I hope you like it!

The Concept:

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I've always loved Balro Attack/Stamina hybrids, and I've been looking for a way to "perfect" the concept. My first go was, as most of you know, Balro Balro W145WSF. I started from the well-known MSF-H Balro Balro TR145MF. I wanted something with higher overall Stamina, and I was able to produce a combo that performed slightly better in that respect, but I sacrificed far too much recoil reduction and controllability in the process. It was very difficult to KO with before I had practiced for a while, and even then its results against Attack were absolutely horrendous.

That said, while I really liked Balro Balro W145WSF, I thought we could do better. So, I began trying different setups. I eventually came down to this. This custom benefits from heavier weight, wider, lower weight distribution, and higher balance than the other variants. I wanted to get a stall time at least slightly better than MSF-H Balro Balro TR145MF, while still maintaining low recoil. This combo got about a 20 second increase in solo-spin time, and as I'm very happy to say, noticeably lower recoil than the original variant. It's also WAY easier to use than the TR145MF/W145WSF variants. It's weight (distribution) allows it to maintain a flower pattern after a sliding shot for up to twice as long as the TR145 variant, and... Well... The W145WSF variant could only ever keep it up for a lap or two, so it's definitely a step forward in that direction. On top of that, even with its excellent ability to maintain a flower pattern for an extended period of time, it is still extremely easy to tornado stall with without going into an oval sort of movement (which TR145MF had trouble with when I tested it).

This combo can KO Stamina incredibly easily, out-spin Defense easily (and actually land quite a few legitimate KOs on E230 Defense), and, surprisingly, evade and counter Attack types' movements with unbelievable efficiency, thanks to MF's quick acceleration, smooth movement, and the combo's extremely heavy weight (Balro being the heaviest Chrome Wheel after Wyvang, this combo is actually almost the exact weight of MSF-H Revizer Revizer BD145RDF, perhaps lighter or heavier by a couple tenths of a gram).

To sum it up, I do believe we have found the ultimate Balro Attack/Stamina hybrid. Plus, if my testing is correct (which has yet to be seen; that's where you guys come in), this combination can counter Attack types relatively consistently, which basically makes it a multi-purpose Balance type capable of handling almost anything.

Parts Choice:

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MSF-L: To gain the effect I wanted against Attack types and semi-aggressive Balance types (which was probably the biggest drawback with Balro Balro W145WSF), I needed weight to lower recoil. However, MSF-H absolutely killed this custom's stall time. It cut it down by a full minute. So, that said, I went with this, and it seems to work very nicely. Doesn't hurt the combo's Stamina, and yet provides lower recoil, and perhaps even improved balance.

Balro: Weight, smash, and a great, smooth stall. Balro is the crux of this combination. It has quite low recoil for an Attack wheel, and, though its balance is a little off like most Synchromes, it can be balanced nearly perfectly using BD145 and an MSF-L. It has strong, consistent smash, and a solo spin time of over three and a half minutes on this custom. Balro is definitely the Chrome Wheel to use on this combination (it was the whole point, actually. The entire design was built around it. XD)

BD145: Heavy weight, very well distributed for this custom's balance, and a lower center of gravity... That's actually pretty much it.

MF: Oh yah, here we go. MF is an all around amazing Bottom. It has unbelievable Stamina, a great movement pattern, and high attack power that can be utilized in most any Balance-type custom. It's easy to get it to do what you want, when you want, whether it be by switching a part or two or using a specific launch technique. It's an all-around extremely versatile Bottom, and this combo could not work without it.

The Launch:

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This custom can be several different things. A Stamina type, an Attack type, and, when you need it, a relatively effective Defense type. That said, you obviously want to stall against Defense (or any rubber-tipped combination that isn't aggressive), and sliding shoot against Stamina.

Against aggressive combinations, if it isn't another tornado staller, typically you're going to want to bank. The goal is to evade the opponent, but, even if they do make contact with your Beyblade, this custom's low recoil and the speed/momentum you have going will probably be able to keep you inside the stadium the slight majority of the time.

Testing:

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Benchmark:

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MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang H145R2F vs. MSF-H Revizer Revizer BD145RDF
Revizer always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Wyvang KO
2. Revizer OS
3. Revizer OS
4. Wyvang KO
5. Wyvang KO
6. Revizer OS
7. Wyvang KO
8. Wyvang KO
9. Wyvang KO
10. Revizer OS
11. Wyvang KO
12. Wyvang KO
13. Revizer OS
14. Wyvang KO
15. Wyvang KO
16. Wyvang KO
17. Wyvang KO
18. Revizer KO
19. Wyvang KO
20. Revizer OS

Wyvang: 13 (0 OS, 13 KO)
Revizer: 7 (6 OS, 1 KO)
Wyvang Win %: 65.0%

So... Yah! Pretty decent. Not amazing, I'll admit, but not bad.

Vs Attack:

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MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. MSF-H Wyvang Wyvang H145R2F
Balro always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Wyvang KO
2. Balro OS
3. Balro OS
4. Wyvang KO
5. Balro OS
6. Balro OS
7. Balro OS
8. Balro OS
9. Wyvang KO
10. Balro OS
11. Balro OS
12. Wyvang KO
13. Balro OS
14. Wyvang KO
15. Balro OS
16. Balro OS
17. Balro OS
18. Balro OS
19. Wyvang KO
20. Balro OS

Balro: 14 (14 OS, 0 KO)
Wyvang: 6 (0 OS, 6 KO)
Balro Win %: 70.0%

OK, this right here is kind of unbelievable. Like, seriously, shame on you if you believed it as soon as you saw it. This was a combination of low recoil, and the ability to re-accelerate almost instantly following contact. Rubber Attack bottoms take a split second to begin moving again after hitting/taking a hit. MF, however, has the advantage of being able to begin moving at full speed almost immediately. With a solid center of gravity, good balance, heavy weight, and overall low recoil, this can allow a custom using it to repeatedly evade/outrun the opposing attacker after the first hit, or simply repeatedly move in and prevent the attacker from taking back its grip and getting a good movement pattern going again. One of the first combos I ever tested, Girago Girago SA165MF, possessed this same quality, and was able to completely nullify Diablo Anti-Attack.

However, we aren't talking about Diablo here. This is Wyvang. IF YOU DO ANY TESTING ON THIS COMBO, THIS IS THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO. This here is really what sets this custom apart as an exceptional Balance type.


MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. Wyvang Dragooon SA165R2F
Balro always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Dragooon OS
2. Balro OS
3. Dragooon OS
4. Balro OS
5. Balro KO
6. Balro KO
7. Dragooon OS
8. Balro KO
9. Balro OS
10. Balro OS
11. Balro OS
12. Balro OS
13. Dragooon OS
14. Balro OS
15. Dragooon OS
16. Balro OS
17. Dragooon KO
18. Dragooon KO
19. Balro OS
20. Tie; Balro OS

Balro: 13 (10 OS, 3 KO)
Dragooon: 7 (5 OS, 2 KO)
Balro Win %: 65.0%


Oh my gosh... Oh my gosh oh my gosh oh my gosh... OK, lemme clarify something here. I tried as carping hard as I could to get Dragooon to land some KOs on Balro. I managed to land two KOs right on the tornado ridge after practically ripping my arm off launching Dragooon, but aside from that Balro held its own extremely well. It was the same thing as with Wyvang. MF's movement pattern kept it on the run and stopped Dragooon dead in its tracks after the first hit. The OSes were surprising too (well, slightly. BD145MF has been used before on L-Drago/Dragooon combos, and now I can see why), but it did actually happen. I tried switching to another R2F to see if it was something wrong with Dragooon's Bottom, but Balro won by even more!

I need confirmation for these guys. GIT OUT YER WYVANGS AND START TESTING!

Vs. Stamina:

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MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. Duo Cancer W145WD
Cancer always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Balro KO
2. Balro KO
3. Balro KO
4. Cancer OS
5. Balro KO
6. Balro KO
7. Cancer OS
8. Balro OS
9. Balro KO
10. Balro KO
11. Cancer OS
12. Cancer OS
13. Balro KO
14. Balro KO
15. Balro KO
16. Balro KO
17. Cancer OS
18. Balro KO
19. Cancer OS
20. Balro KO

Balro: 14 (1 OS, 13 KO)
Cancer: 6 (6 OS, 0 KO)
Balro Win %: 70.0%

Have I mentioned yet that my Duo is particularly hard to KO? I can hit 100% with something on a different Duo, then turn around to this one and only hit 60. This was also partially the product of dozens of wall saves (I seem to be getting more then usual today). Regardless, Balro still won by a lot. This was astoundingly easy to control. I'm very happy with how easy it is to handle this combo.

MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. Duo Cancer SA165EWD
Cancer always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Balro KO
2. Balro KO
3. Balro KO
4. Cancer OS
5. Balro KO
6. Balro KO
7. Balro KO
8. Balro KO
9. Balro KO
10. Balro KO

Balro: 9 (0 OS, 9 KO)
Cancer: 1 (1 OS, 0 KO)
Balro Win %: 90.0%

MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. Duo Cancer 230D
Cancer always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Balro KO
2. Balro KO
3. Balro KO
4. Balro KO
5. Balro KO
6. Balro KO
7. Balro KO
8. Balro OS
9. Balro OS
10. Balro KO

Balro: 10 (2 OS, 8 KO)
Cancer: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
Balro Win %: 100.0%

These two out-spins were crazy. Balro just hit the thing so dang hard that, after several wall saves, Duo just coughed out a couple wobbly rotations and fell to the ground. This combo has great upper smash and destabilization properties if you happen to need them.

MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. Genbull Genbull SR200TB
Genbull always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Balro KO
2. Balro KO
3. Balro OS
4. Balro KO
5. Balro OS
6. Balro KO
7. Balro KO
8. Balro KO
9. Balro KO
10. Balro KO

Balro: 10 (2 OS, 8 KO)
Genbull: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
Balro Win %: 100.0%

OSes were just billions of wall saves leading up to Genbull taking a faceplant while Balro spun around at nearly full speed.

Well, other you have it. No surprise here. It's Balro on MF. XD


MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. Revizer Dragooon SA165EWD
Dragooon always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Balro KO
2. Dragooon OS
3. Dragooon OS
4. Dragooon OS
5. Dragooon OS
6. Dragooon OS
7. Balro KO
8. Dragooon OS
9. Dragooon OS
10. Dragooon OS
11. Balro KO
12. Dragooon OS
13. Balro KO
14. Balro KO
15. Dragooon OS
16. Balro KO
17. Dragooon OS
18. Dragooon OS
19. Dragooon OS
20. Balro KO

Balro: 7 (0 OS, 7 KO)
Dragooon: 13 (13 OS, 0 KO)
Balro Win %: 35.0%

This here was interesting. I was able to get quite a few KOs if I was able to launch just so, but overall Balro had some trouble. There were also repetitive wall saves going on during the entire match, but I doubt you could hit higher than 55-60% with this. Balro has never had a good track record against Dragooon.

So... This pretty much wrecks stamina (besides select Dragooon customs, apparently). Quite impressive! Great Attack application/controllability are probably two of this combo's biggest advantages.

Vs. Defense:

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MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. MF-H Duo Aquario BD145CS
Aquario launched first on even launches, Balro launched first on odd.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Balro OS
2. Balro OS
3. Balro OS
4. Balro OS
5. Balro OS
6. Balro OS
7. Balro OS
8. Balro OS
9. Balro OS
10. Balro OS

Balro: 10 (10 OS, 0 KO)
Aquario: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
Balro Win %: 100.0%

This right here is the mark of a good Stamina/Attack hybrid. OSing Duo on CS is no easy feat for a flat-tipped combination, and definitely a great attribute to have in a tournament scenario.

MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. MSF-H Revizer Killerken E230RSF
Killerken launched first on even launches, Balro launched first on odd.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Balro OS
2. Balro KO
3. Balro OS
4. Balro OS
5. Balro OS
6. Balro OS
7. Balro OS
8. Balro OS
9. Balro OS
10. Balro KO

Balro: 10 (8 OS, 2 KO)
Killerken: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
Balro Win %: 100.0%

I actually took the liberty to bank a couple times here, and Balro, to my surprise, just about took my head off with a flying E230 defender! It was great. I stalled the rest of the time, but two of the three times I banked it Balro was able to KO with ease.

MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. MSF-H Revizer Revizer BD145RDF
Revizer launched first on even launches, Balro launched first on odd.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Balro OS
2. Balro OS
3. Balro OS
4. Balro OS
5. Balro OS
6. Balro OS
7. Balro OS
8. Balro OS
9. Balro OS
10. Balro OS

Balro: 10 (10 OS, 0 KO)
Revizer: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
Balro Win %: 100.0%

... Strike 3! He's out!

Vs. Balance:

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MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. MSF-L Genbull Dragooon F230GCF
Dragooon always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Balro KO
2. Dragooon OS
3. Dragooon KO
4. Dragooon OS
5. Balro KO
6. Dragooon OS
7. Dragooon OS
8. Balro KO
9. Dragooon OS
10. Balro OS
11. Dragooon OS
12. Dragooon OS
13. Balro KO
14. Balro KO
15. Dragooon OS
16. Balro KO
17. Dragooon OS
18. Dragooon OS
19. Dragooon OS
20. Dragooon OS

Balro: 7 (1 OS, 6 KO)
Dragooon: 13 (12 OS, 1 KO)
Balro Win %: 35.0%

Darn. That would've been the cherry on top. XD If the user launches Dragooon properly (weak launch while banking, the proper launch against all aggressive customs), you will most likely lose. Balro just didn't have quite enough speed to land the KO with Dragooon having weak launched.

MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. MSF-L Genbull Genbull F230GCF
Genbull always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Balro OS
2. Balro OS
3. Balro KO
4. Balro KO
5. Balro OS
6. Balro KO
7. Balro KO
8. Balro OS
9. Balro KO
10. Balro OS

Balro: 10 (5 OS, 5 KO)
Genbull: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
Balro Win %: 100.0%

Without the option of weak launching (Genbull being in right-spin and all), this thing didn't stand the slightest chance.

MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. Girago Genbull E230MB
Genbull always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Balro KO
2. Balro KO
3. Balro OS
4. Balro KO
5. Balro OS
6. Balro KO
7. Balro OS
8. Balro KO
9. Balro OS
10. Balro KO

Balro: 10 (4 OS, 6 KO)
Genbull: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
Balro Win %: 100.0%

Easy win. Balro just swooped in and either KOed the heck out of it, or just knocked it repeatedly 'till it took a dive. I also tried stalling, and it worked pretty well too.

MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. MSF-H Wyvang Dragooon BD145RDF
Dragooon launched first on even launches, Balro launched first on odd.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Dragooon OS
2. Balro OS
3. Dragooon OS
4. Dragooon OS
5. Dragooon OS
6. Balro OS
7. Dragooon OS
8. Dragooon OS
9. Dragooon OS
10. Dragooon OS
11. Dragooon OS
12. Dragooon OS
13. Dragooon OS
14. Dragooon OS
15. Dragooon OS
16. Dragooon OS
17. Dragooon OS
18. Dragooon OS
19. Dragooon OS
20. Dragooon OS

Balro: 2 (2 OS, 0 KO)
Dragooon: 18 (18 OS, 0 KO)
Balro Win %: 10.0%

Eh... This was a little disappointing. Balro couldn't stall quite long enough to take the win. Dragooon had the smallest bit of spin left near the end, and it just equalized from there. :\

Counters:

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(MSF-H) _______ Dragooon BD145RDF
(MSF-L) Genbull/Killerken/Revizer Dragooon F230CF/GCF

Overall, I'd say this custom is extremely effective, and, as testing hopefully confirms, top-tier worthy. The versatility is just insane! I'm gonna be using this a lot from now on.

HUGE props to Ingulit for his Beytest app. The thing is totally off the hook. It makes this all sooooo much easier.

Thanks for reading guys! TEST STUFF!

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This sure seems like an interesting combo. Once I get my Attack & Balance DX set, I'll be sure to try this out.

I actually would've figured this could defeat Wyvang Dragooon BD145RDF. I figured it'd have enough stall time to OS, but I guess not :\.

carp, just remembered my Metal Flat has been missing for like months . I guess I will have to get another one of them as well.

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still posi

LOL, trust me, it'll be more than worth it.

I'd be really confident going into a tournament with this combo. It covers quite a range of the meta (as long as your region isn't absurdly Dragooon heavy, which is unfortunately the case where I am XD).

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Hey, could you test against that combo I came up with to beat Bahamida Dragooon BD145R2F (Revizer Genbull E230 (boost) GCF)? You made this so you could make a tornado staller thread before me, didn't you? XD
EDIT: Can you also test against Dragooon BD145GF?

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Impressive results! I don't have a second Wyvang, so I can't do Wyvang^2 Attack testing, but I'll try a few other things. My Balros don't like each other much though, iirc they got horrendous solo times. I'll have to check again.

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Threads and combos!

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[LTD] MF Jade Horogium 85RSF
[LTD] RB / RSF Attack
[LTD] Ronin Genbull (Crystal Up) 85RF
MF-H Phantom (Attack) Cancer 85RB
MSF-H Wyvang Ifraid GB145RF {Alternative to Wyvang^2 with more Upper Attack}
MSF-H Genbull Genbull 85RSF {Improved version of the above Phantom combo}
Balro Begirados 100RF {LTAC with both Upper Smash and regular Smash}
[LTD] MF-H Lightning L-Drago 85RB {more controllable Lightning LTAC}
[LTD] Burn Orion 105SF {Destabilizer}

Impressive results! I don't have a second Wyvang, so I can't do Wyvang^2 Attack testing, but I'll try a few other things. My Balros don't like each other much though, iirc they got horrendous solo times. I'll have to check again.

You might have to flip BD145 around and see if it balanced out. That's what I did a couple times, and it worked.

If you have Dragoon and SA165, do testing against Wyvang Dragooon SA165R2F! That's just as important.

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Cool, it doesn't even get super bad results against its counter XD. I'd like to see this versus thee Genbull genbull e230MB, MF-L phantom Cygnus 85MF and some LTSC.

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

Cool, it doesn't even get super bad results against its counter XD. I'd like to see this versus thee Genbull genbull e230MB, MF-L phantom Cygnus 85MF and some LTSC.

Well, LTSC aren't exactly the most competitive type of combination in the Standard format setting.

I can definitely do those Phantom staller tests, though. I'll have 'em up later tonight!

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He actually used this combo agaonst my Genbull^2 E230 MB, but he lost

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things

did anybody used reviser Dragoon Bearing drive here...

He actually used this combo agaonst my Genbull^2 E230 MB, but he lost

You also had an insane launch, and I self-KOed once. I'm gonna try to get that done as well if I can.

Anyway, testing!


MSF-L Balro Balro BD145MF vs. MF-L Phantom [Attack Mode] Cancer 85MF
Cancer always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Cancer OS
2. Cancer KO
3. Cancer OS
4. Balro KO
5. Balro OS
6. Balro KO
7. Cancer KO
8. Balro OS
9. Balro KO
10. Cancer KO
11. Balro OS
12. Balro KO
13. Balro KO
14. Cancer OS
15. Cancer OS
16. Cancer OS
17. Cancer OS
18. Balro KO
19. Balro KO
20. Cancer OS

Balro: 10 (3 OS, 7 KO)
Cancer: 10 (7 OS, 3 KO)
Balro Win %: 50.0%

There were tons of wall saves going on here. I think this could've been 70% easily, but Phantom just kept a bouncing' off the walls. You need to bank with this to make it work. Stalling just doesn't work nearly as well.

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Seems like it would definitely beat Phantom MF ._.
I apologize for my launch, I'll tone it down the next time I beat you ;D
Just kidding, but I really like the way this combo feels. There's just something about it 0-0

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things

Well, that's the thing. If you can get a good hit on it, you'll win just about every time, IF your opponent doesn't get saved by the wall, which happened at an unusually frequent rate during these tests.

Again, if anybody can try to reproduce these Attack results, try! That's the most crucial testing to be done at the moment.

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Nice testings !! Can you test in against Gryph Begirados 100RF or any Low Track attacker ?

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Just a note guys, I'm busy ATM so I can't post formal tests, buy I tried this thing against Genbull Genbull E230MB and it was something like 5 KO and 2 OS to 0 in favor of Balro.

Genbull^2 honestly isn't much better than Girago Genbull on E230M for pure Stamina TBH. It was impossible to tell which one Balro out-spun by more.

Guess your launch was just way too hard Pepsi. I shoulda flippin' banked!! AAAARRGGHHH!

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I also have a keen eye, I dare you to try and bank next time
I do apologize for being an outlier, to ruin your tests makes me upset. (Giggle)
But you most likely would have won if it weren't me.or someone like Ingulit

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things

Haha I remember using this combo ages ago when I really started to like the Balro Balro BD145 setup. Unfortunately I didnt really get around to testing this combo much because my BD145's are really loose on MF. :\

Really? You liked it, huh? Awesome! It would be kinda cool if you could give us some commentary, y'know, to get multiple peoples' perspective.

Is anybody able to do Benchmarked Attack tests with Wyvang ___145/Wyvang Dragooon SA165? That would be utterly amazing ATM. Relatively high-recoil wheels on MF usually can't take that stuff down. XD

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I tested against Balro^2 BD145 MF, and Wyvang TRASHED this

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things

I tested against Balro^2 BD145 MF, and Wyvang TRASHED this

Ah, the SA165 variant did.

Balro has high angular recoil, meaning that it's far easier to KO if you're higher/lower than it. I tested against SA165 and it did, indeed, get trashed, but the far more prevalent 145-height variants aren't so effective.

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I know what that means brah. Don't be frontin' on my cool, calm, colloquial vocabulareh.
I really do like this combo though XD
Just in case though, you want me to test against Wyvang?

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things

... YES!

Do it!

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Really? You liked it, huh? Awesome! It would be kinda cool if you could give us some commentary, y'know, to get multiple peoples' perspective.

Is anybody able to do Benchmarked Attack tests with Wyvang ___145/Wyvang Dragooon SA165? That would be utterly amazing ATM. Relatively high-recoil wheels on MF usually can't take that stuff down. XD

Well I'll see what I can do since my MF tends to fly off my BD145's. XD Its difficult for me to use this combo.

It's been a while since I've tested but did anybody say Wyvang tests?
Wyvang Wyvang GB145RF vs Balro Balro BD145MF
Alternating launches. RF in prime condition.
Balro wins: 11/20(5 KO, 6 OS)
Wyvang wins: 9/20(all KO)
3 ties
Balro Win Percentage: 55%
Yup... you better believe it.

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

Touchdown!

The crowd goes wild!! *CHEERING*

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