Meteo gets a much better win rate.

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But this is smash and Meteo wins by outspin and has almost 0% smash unless it's battling against an another left spin making Pegasis better.

no it doesn't make pegasis better as it can't win vs RS at all, and meteo has no smash but ldrago II absorb does have some smash (it can get KOs, just not allot

this thread is based on who gets the most win %, and meteo gets more then pegasis making meteo better

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The woudn't Meteo get better win rates than Vulcan and Gravity(In right) and almost the same as lightning

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The woudn't Meteo get better win rates than Vulcan and Gravity(In right) and almost the same as lightning

sorta, lightning and gravity (gravity in left spin) does better then meteo, but meteo does better then vulcan (by 10%), gravity (right spin), and pegasis

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Hey,
Attack Menas smash not Equalizing try Lightning L drago ch120 RF vs Meteo L Drago 90 CS Meteo wins most of the rounds but if it is vulcan against it Vulcan wins as the spin direction is a quiet a large thing in this.
And you wouldn't know when you go against a left spin defense bey.

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If you're gonna argue pointlessly then don't bother. Attack vs Attack testing means nothing anyway. The whole point of this thread is to show people how good the parts are. Since Meteo wins it makes more sense to use it than Pegasis. End of discussion!

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parts that need more testing, EWD i think that it may have tier 2 defence capablilities

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I've been saying this for a while but no one does any. When I get Killer Befowl i'll do some but that won't be for at least a month or two.

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GB145 and R145 have been shown to have attack use. Try them out on Lightning (L-Drago I) and Pegasus (Pre-HWS)
BTW EWD will be like PD, a good stamina tip that doesn't fall over. I think the list would be like this:

PD
EWD
WD
SD
B
D

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BTW EWD will be like PD, a good stamina tip that doesn't fall over. I think the list would be like this:

PD
EWD
WD
SD
B
D

incorrect, EWD is the same as WD for performance, but EWD has some breakage problems. also D>B for stamina so

PD>WD/EWD>SD>D>B

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GB145 and R145 have been shown to have attack use. Try them out on Lightning (L-Drago I) and Pegasus (Pre-HWS)
BTW EWD will be like PD, a good stamina tip that doesn't fall over. I think the list would be like this:

PD
EWD
WD
SD
B
D

I disagree with GB145 having attack use since LLD is good on pretty much every track and Pegasis is good on 145 height. The reason PD is good is because it is made of a low friction plastic which EWD so PD will be better.

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PD/DS doesn't work as well as D. Smaller win margins overall. DS just doesn't work well with anything really - I did those tests weeks back.

"PD >SD>EWD>WD>D>MS>DS>ES>S>BS>B"

The Sequence Goes Like This.
WD,EWD,SD Outclassed D.
Use Beywiki.

correction.
PD>SD>EWD/WD>D>DS>MB>DS>MS>ES>BS>S>B

This x>y>z>a>b>c is all trash. Read what bladestorm said first as well as this "line-up" being for old/traditional metagame stamina. We have evolved, it is now D/CS.
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Edit: D information is from MF-H Basalt 230D tests on another thread.

These parts, as 1v1 testing shows, are all outclassed by 230D/CS. Drop down to tier 2 should be necessary.

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anyways, since people dont like meteo top tier for attack, how about make it a destabilizing-attacker? (like MF ldrago 100WF)

for attack R145 should be top tier, as it does super good with gravity

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PD/DS doesn't work as well as D. Smaller win margins overall. DS just doesn't work well with anything really - I did those tests weeks back.

"PD >SD>EWD>WD>D>MS>DS>ES>S>BS>B"

The Sequence Goes Like This.
WD,EWD,SD Outclassed D.
Use Beywiki.

correction.
PD>SD>EWD/WD>D>DS>MB>DS>MS>ES>BS>S>B

This x>y>z>a>b>c is all trash. Read what bladestorm said first as well as this "line-up" being for old/traditional metagame stamina. We have evolved, it is now D/CS.
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Edit: D information is from MF-H Basalt 230D tests on another thread.

These parts, as 1v1 testing shows, are all outclassed by 230D/CS. Drop down to tier 2 should be necessary.

Not everyone uses 230 though.

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anyways, since people dont like meteo top tier for attack, how about make it a destabilizing-attacker? (like MF ldrago 100WF)

for attack R145 should be top tier, as it does super good with gravity

Well too bad for them, it has an RF on so it's an attacker. Also it isn't that people don't think it's an attacker it's that they think it's in the wrong place.

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Those that dont use 230 will lose. People using/testing traditional 85/145 stamina variations must get themselves a 230cs if your willing to and im sure everyone realises this.

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but overall pegasis should be in tier 1
we are not talking about MF pegasis 145RF we are talkin about pegasis itself with all heights and it has exceptional
smash and Aquilaz112 I agree I have stated this before

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It does not deserve to be in tier 1! Yes it does very well against WB but mediocre vs Rubber defence bottoms which is what everyone uses... Also all the wheels in tier 1 right now are better than Pegasis. You're both wrong so stop asking for it.

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Meteo L-Drago 90R2F has proven to be a good attacker, except against defence combos like Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Normal Mode)

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here are some tests to confirm that me and Ultrablader
*not my tests

MF Pegasus 145RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RSF
3 - 7: RSF’s win rate 70%

MF Pegasus 145RF VS MF - H Earth Bull GB145RS
0 - 10: RS’s win rate 100%

as you can see pegasis is bad vs rubber defence bottoms, it does not deserve to be in tier 1

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.. We've known that is it does bad against RS specifically, not CS/RSF. Vulcan is still on the tier 1 list so..

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Which part are you talking about? Vulcan or Pegasis?

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Both Vulcan and Pegasis do badly against RS..

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Which part are you talking about? Vulcan or Pegasis?

if he is talking about pegasis, one of the tests in my above post i showed it vs RSF not RS. here is pegasis VS CS
(again not my tests)

MF Pegasus 145RF VS MF - H Earth (Second Mold) Bull GB145CS
5 - 5: CS's win rate 50%

MF Pegasis 145RF vs. MF Earth Aquario GB145CS
MF Pegasis 145RF: 2 wins
MF Earth Aquario: 18 wins
CS win percentage: 90%

vulcan deserves to be tier one (i say tier 1.5) as it can take CS, RSF, and sometimes RS, but pegasis gets 0% vs RS, 30% vs RSF, and 10-50% vs CS
pegasis is outclassed

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I was aimed at the RS, which it does worst against.. mind using MF Pegasis 85RF for me?

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There's already lots of testing on that in the sticky grip thread.

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