I have nothing to do at the moment, so being a fan of hyper sphere, I've decided to show why hyper sphere is not as bad as you might think/been told. 1.first thing to get out of the way is that hasbro and TT will never reach the same level (the closest they got was switchstrike). hasbro beys are an alternative to get beys outside of japan. 2.one more thing before I get too the actual beys, hasbro's first priority is fun. they make a fun gimmick some what close to the anime, and make sure it appeals to their audience (is fun). this way they get sales. simple. 3.no frames/frame like parts(this also applies to weights). I'm sure you all have seen sting and hurricane by now. i believe the reason they did this was to make the beys light weight. heavy beys wouldn't glide around as well, if you put TT in rise stadiums you can see the difference. 4.only 1 "mode". for turbo they gave their beys a regular mode and a slingshock mode. the regular ode was for the battle ring, and sling shock for the rails. if the stadium was only rails there would be no need for a reg mode. now look at hyper sphere. the while thing about the stadium is the overall shape makes it so the beys can glide. there's no battle ring, or area for them to just chill out without doing their main gimmick, so there's no need for an extra mode. 

     5.the drivers. the drivers looking "weird" is just complaining. the drivers are made like that to glide around the slopes. TT beys have the reg drivers and they can get pushed up the slopes or the brink, but kinda just go back down. hyper sphere on the other hand, actually glides, so the tips are necessary. yeah they look different. deal with it. and about the drivers all being the same. sure most have the same overall shape, but you can can notice that stamina ride around more steadily,attack goes in for a ton of hits, and defense does tend to stick in the middle. you might say defense shouldn't go up to the brink, its not attack. that's just saying to strip it of its gimmick, then it'll be a boring old bey except it has a two part layer. and kids wont want the boring old beys, so why would they buy them? so sure it's not as anime accurate as you may like, but at the very least its hella fun.they're worth the money in my opinion, but to each their own. (I'm not trying to start arguments, so civilized discussion would be nice instead of "imagine defending hyper sphere you idiot. its obviously trash" or anything like that.) (also there's definitely mistakes in here, correct them if you feel the need to do so)

DeceasedCrab, please move this to the right thread. Also, what about the fact that they removed the gimmicks from the beys? No rubber on Fafnir for example and also they removed Dread Bahamut’s gimmick.

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sry wrong thread, but its not like hasbro ever had rubber. and for things like dread they sadly dont do much gimmicks anymore, tho I think they do it depending on how complicated it is. there target audience is kids I believe, and they prob dont wanna do anything they think the kids wont know how to use, or not understand.

sry wrong thread, but its not like hasbro ever had rubber. and for things like dread they sadly dont do much gimmicks anymore, tho I think they do it depending on how complicated it is. there target audience is kids I believe, and they prob dont wanna do anything they think the kids wont know how to use, or not understand.

Drain Fafnir from the switchstrike line had rubber, so I don't get why the other Fafnir's get plastic instead.

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sry wrong thread, but its not like hasbro ever had rubber. and for things like dread they sadly dont do much gimmicks anymore, tho I think they do it depending on how complicated it is. there target audience is kids I believe, and they prob dont wanna do anything they think the kids wont know how to use, or not understand.

If you remember switchstrike was a thing, so that’s not the case. Also, Fafnir F3 had rubber.

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sry wrong thread, but its not like hasbro ever had rubber. and for things like dread they sadly dont do much gimmicks anymore, tho I think they do it depending on how complicated it is. there target audience is kids I believe, and they prob dont wanna do anything they think the kids wont know how to use, or not understand.

Aside from the already mentioned Fafnir, Spryzen Requiem S3 also had rubber.  Dread Bahamut is very gimmicky, the Gen weight acts like a burst stopper during the early part of the clicks and the Dread Layer recovers that portion of the click when contact is made; that's why it doesn't burst very often if at all.

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One of the things u prolly failed to realize, is that these new beys, in a sense, are just boring old beys with a 2 part layer...

Hasbruh has stripped everything that made the GT series... GT! They even had the audacity to remove the layer weight,
Now it’s just molded plastic that is part (not fused) of the layer base! It makes no sense! It’s quite a cheap move imo...
They have removed almost everything that made GT what it is... it’s like removing metal from the Cho-Z Beyblade series...
Oh wait, that’s exactly what Hasbruh did!
And do you know what happens when you remove something that vital, and replace it with something that’s...
Mehh..? You get something that inferior to the original...
And that is unfortunately what is going on here...

Another thing is that there is nothing, absolutely nuffin in this season that is competitive! Try bringing those HyperSphere beys to a tournament, I’d be surprised if you’re even allowed to participate, cuz the tips are banned...
The only beys that are worth buying from Hasbruh, in a competitive sense is SwitchStrike beys, as some of those are still to this very day very competitive (I’m looking at YOU Balkesh B3.... on Br!!) other than that season... there’s nuffin competitive

They have stripped down everything that made the beys themselves special and unique...
Fafnir’s rubber... Removed!
Joker’s rubber and special driver gimmick.... removed!
Diabolos’s special layer weight fused chip, and special
Mini-bey driver gimmick..... Removed!
Need I to mention more?! I wot not!

All in all... I’ll say that this season of Hasbruh burst,
In a nutshell, is.... uhh... exactly that! A nutshell...
A hollow shell of the original, just like its previous season.

But if you enjoy it, then enjoy it!!!

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Also I’ll hafta admit that the HyperSphere gimmick does look very very fun! And at least they got the colors of the beys down...

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One of the things u prolly failed to realize, is that these new beys, in a sense, are just boring old beys with a 2 part layer...

Hasbruh has stripped everything that made the GT series... GT! They even had the audacity to remove the layer weight,
Now it’s just molded plastic that is part (not fused) of the layer base!  It makes no sense! It’s quite a cheap move imo...
They have removed almost everything that made GT what it is...  it’s like removing metal from the Cho-Z Beyblade series...
Oh wait, that’s exactly what Hasbruh did!
And do you know what happens when you remove something that vital, and replace it with something that’s...
Mehh..?  You get something that inferior to the original...
And that is unfortunately what is going on here...

Another thing is that there is nothing, absolutely nuffin in this season that is competitive!  Try bringing those HyperSphere beys to a tournament, I’d be surprised if you’re even allowed to participate, cuz the tips are banned...
The only beys that are worth buying from Hasbruh, in a competitive sense is SwitchStrike beys, as some of those are still to this very day very competitive (I’m looking at YOU Balkesh B3.... on Br!!)  other than that season... there’s nuffin competitive

They have stripped down everything that made the beys themselves special and unique...
Fafnir’s rubber... Removed!
Joker’s rubber and special driver gimmick.... removed!
Diabolos’s special layer weight fused chip, and special
Mini-bey driver gimmick..... Removed!
Need I to mention more?!  I wot not!

All in all...  I’ll say that this season of Hasbruh burst,
In a nutshell, is.... uhh... exactly that! A nutshell...
A hollow shell of the original, just like its previous season.

But if you enjoy it, then enjoy it!!!

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Also I’ll hafta admit that the HyperSphere gimmick does look very very fun! And at least they got the colors of the beys down...

1.I already said I think they removed the weights to make it more light weight, to glide better. they still have chips, which do have a purpose. slopes. there's tight and loose slopes. say a certain chip has tighter slopes, you can swap it with the one on the bey your using and wow its magically tighter.
2.in the tournaments hasbro holds, they do have rise stadiums (saw one in their chara expo vid). so for official tournaments the tips are perfectly legal.
3.if you saw what I said in my reply to rob, that explains jokers tip and clearly they've decided on no more rubber.  other things like the mini bey they prob couldn't be bothered to print. Im guessing gimmicks that require too much extra plastic are also scrapped. as for the diabolos chip, its not like they have weights. 
I wouldn't say its a hollow shell,but u do u

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sry wrong thread, but its not like hasbro ever had rubber. and for things like dread they sadly dont do much gimmicks anymore, tho I think they do it depending on how complicated it is. there target audience is kids I believe, and they prob dont wanna do anything they think the kids wont know how to use, or not understand.

Aside from the already mentioned Fafnir, Spryzen Requiem S3 also had rubber.  Dread Bahamut is very gimmicky, the Gen weight acts like a burst stopper during the early part of the clicks and the Dread Layer recovers that portion of the click when contact is made; that's why it doesn't burst very often if at all.

remember thats switchstrike. it was probably considered apart of their switchstrike gimmick.

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sry wrong thread, but its not like hasbro ever had rubber. and for things like dread they sadly dont do much gimmicks anymore, tho I think they do it depending on how complicated it is. there target audience is kids I believe, and they prob dont wanna do anything they think the kids wont know how to use, or not understand.

Drain Fafnir from the switchstrike line had rubber, so I don't get why the other Fafnir's get plastic instead.

it was prob its switchstrike gimmick. the other beys r hyper sphere and turbo

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sry wrong thread, but its not like hasbro ever had rubber. and for things like dread they sadly dont do much gimmicks anymore, tho I think they do it depending on how complicated it is. there target audience is kids I believe, and they prob dont wanna do anything they think the kids wont know how to use, or not understand.

If you remember switchstrike was a thing, so that’s not the case. Also, Fafnir F3 had rubber.

it was prob its switchstrike gimmick. the other beys r hyper sphere and turbo

One of the things u prolly failed to realize, is that these new beys, in a sense, are just boring old beys with a 2 part layer...

Hasbruh has stripped everything that made the GT series... GT! They even had the audacity to remove the layer weight,
Now it’s just molded plastic that is part (not fused) of the layer base!  It makes no sense! It’s quite a cheap move imo...
They have removed almost everything that made GT what it is...  it’s like removing metal from the Cho-Z Beyblade series...
Oh wait, that’s exactly what Hasbruh did!
And do you know what happens when you remove something that vital, and replace it with something that’s...
Mehh..?  You get something that inferior to the original...
And that is unfortunately what is going on here...

Another thing is that there is nothing, absolutely nuffin in this season that is competitive!  Try bringing those HyperSphere beys to a tournament, I’d be surprised if you’re even allowed to participate, cuz the tips are banned...
The only beys that are worth buying from Hasbruh, in a competitive sense is SwitchStrike beys, as some of those are still to this very day very competitive (I’m looking at YOU Balkesh B3.... on Br!!)  other than that season... there’s nuffin competitive

They have stripped down everything that made the beys themselves special and unique...
Fafnir’s rubber... Removed!
Joker’s rubber and special driver gimmick.... removed!
Diabolos’s special layer weight fused chip, and special
Mini-bey driver gimmick..... Removed!
Need I to mention more?!  I wot not!

All in all...  I’ll say that this season of Hasbruh burst,
In a nutshell, is.... uhh... exactly that! A nutshell...
A hollow shell of the original, just like its previous season.

But if you enjoy it, then enjoy it!!!

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Also I’ll hafta admit that the HyperSphere gimmick does look very very fun! And at least they got the colors of the beys down...

1.I already said I think they removed the weights to make it more light weight, to glide better. they still have chips, which do have a purpose. slopes. there's tight and loose slopes. say a certain chip has tighter slopes, you can swap it with the one on the bey your using and wow its magically tighter.
2.in the tournaments hasbro holds, they do have rise stadiums (saw one in their chara expo vid). so for official tournaments the tips are perfectly legal.
3.if you saw what I said in my reply to rob, that explains jokers tip and clearly they've decided on no more rubber.  other things like the mini bey they prob couldn't be bothered to print. Im guessing gimmicks that require too much extra plastic are also scrapped. as for the diabolos chip, its not like they have weights. 
I wouldn't say its a hollow shell,but u do u

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Aside from the already mentioned Fafnir, Spryzen Requiem S3 also had rubber.  Dread Bahamut is very gimmicky, the Gen weight acts like a burst stopper during the early part of the clicks and the Dread Layer recovers that portion of the click when contact is made; that's why it doesn't burst very often if at all.

remember thats switchstrike. it was probably considered apart of their switchstrike gimmick.

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Drain Fafnir from the switchstrike line had rubber, so I don't get why the other Fafnir's get plastic instead.

it was prob its switchstrike gimmick. the other beys r hyper sphere and turbo

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If you remember switchstrike was a thing, so that’s not the case. Also, Fafnir F3 had rubber.

it was prob its switchstrike gimmick. the other beys r hyper sphere and turbo

You said kids wouldn’t understand gimmicks, but clearly switchstrike wouldn’t be a thing if that was the case.

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1.I already said I think they removed the weights to make it more light weight, to glide better. they still have chips, which do have a purpose. slopes. there's tight and loose slopes. say a certain chip has tighter slopes, you can swap it with the one on the bey your using and wow its magically tighter.
2.in the tournaments hasbro holds, they do have rise stadiums (saw one in their chara expo vid). so for official tournaments the tips are perfectly legal.
3.if you saw what I said in my reply to rob, that explains jokers tip and clearly they've decided on no more rubber.  other things like the mini bey they prob couldn't be bothered to print. Im guessing gimmicks that require too much extra plastic are also scrapped. as for the diabolos chip, its not like they have weights. 
I wouldn't say its a hollow shell,but u do u

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remember thats switchstrike. it was probably considered apart of their switchstrike gimmick.

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it was prob its switchstrike gimmick. the other beys r hyper sphere and turbo

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it was prob its switchstrike gimmick. the other beys r hyper sphere and turbo

You said kids wouldn’t understand gimmicks, but clearly switchstrike wouldn’t be a thing if that was the case.

tru, tho with switchstrike it was just tip change, mode change, or something on the layer. with beys like pegasus it has its whole revival gimmick, and as I said to the other blader, if a gimmick requires to much extra plastic (or just resources in general) thats also most likely a factor in if they keep the gimmick or not

You said kids wouldn’t understand gimmicks, but clearly switchstrike wouldn’t be a thing if that was the case.

tru, tho with switchstrike it was just tip change, mode change, or something on the layer. with beys like pegasus it has its whole revival gimmick, and as I said to the other blader, if a gimmick requires to much extra plastic (or just resources in general) thats also most likely a factor in if they keep the gimmick or not

If you notice none of the hypersphere beys have the gimmicks the original GT beys had. I would not be surprised if that continues with the series.

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I thought this was going to be about the Rise driver (which is actually kinda slept on IMO)... lol

Rise (TT)isn’t bad for opposite spin battles, it’s mostly paired up with aK.Vn.Rs.

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Rise (TT)isn’t bad for opposite spin battles, it’s mostly paired up with aK.Vn.Rs.

This discussion is about the Hasbro version, not TT version.

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Hasbro's gimmicks really aren't that bad, I think the bad reputation for the gimmicks is that they dumbed down or removed so many other gimmicks to make the Hasbro gimmicks work. I wish they could have kept Switchstrike as the main line while releasing a smaller wave of the stadium gimmick line with every wave of main line products.

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I agree, I think all the regular beys should be Switchstrike and have metal on them, while the hasbro exclusives might have hypersphere and slingshock tips (still with metal).

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i don’t know what to put here.

With the Toys R Us company going out of business in the US, Hasbro should have done like this: keep everything that TT beys have (gimmick, metal, etc...) while still mantaining an acceptable price in the stores by producing low stocks. A customer could be ok with that, even if they were hard to find. Of course Hasbro didn't care. I'm NOT trying to justify anything, but cheap stuff sells more than an anime accurate product (expensive). That's a market rule, sell as much as you can in order to keep on standing above the losses' line. That's such a shame...

Hasbro rise is trash

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I have nothing to do at the moment, so being a fan of hyper sphere, I've decided to show why hyper sphere is not as bad as you might think/been told. 1.first thing to get out of the way is that hasbro and TT will never reach the same level (the closest they got was switchstrike). hasbro beys are an alternative to get beys outside of japan. 2.one more thing before I get too the actual beys, hasbro's first priority is fun. they make a fun gimmick some what close to the anime, and make sure it appeals to their audience (is fun). this way they get sales. simple. 3.no frames/frame like parts(this also applies to weights). I'm sure you all have seen sting and hurricane by now. i believe the reason they did this was to make the beys light weight. heavy beys wouldn't glide around as well, if you put TT in rise stadiums you can see the difference. 4.only 1 "mode". for turbo they gave their beys a regular mode and a slingshock mode. the regular ode was for the battle ring, and sling shock for the rails. if the stadium was only rails there would be no need for a reg mode. now look at hyper sphere. the while thing about the stadium is the overall shape makes it so the beys can glide. there's no battle ring, or area for them to just chill out without doing their main gimmick, so there's no need for an extra mode. 

     5.the drivers. the drivers looking "weird" is just complaining. the drivers are made like that to glide around the slopes. TT beys have the reg drivers and they can get pushed up the slopes or the brink, but kinda just go back down. hyper sphere on the other hand, actually glides, so the tips are necessary. yeah they look different. deal with it. and about the drivers all being the same. sure most have the same overall shape, but you can can notice that stamina ride around more steadily,attack goes in for a ton of hits, and defense does tend to stick in the middle. you might say defense shouldn't go up to the brink, its not attack. that's just saying to strip it of its gimmick, then it'll be a boring old bey except it has a two part layer. and kids wont want the boring old beys, so why would they buy them? so sure it's not as anime accurate as you may like, but at the very least its hella fun.they're worth the money in my opinion, but to each their own. (I'm not trying to start arguments, so civilized discussion would be nice instead of "imagine defending hyper sphere you idiot. its obviously trash" or anything like that.) (also there's definitely mistakes in here, correct them if you feel the need to do so)

1. “Hasbros are an alternative.” Yeah, a terrible alternative. If I’m getting a beyblade alternative, or really an alternative anything, I’d want it to be as close to the original as possible. 

2. “ ‘Fun’ Priority” Yeah, it’s fun to have the hypersphere gimmick! So why not make beyblades specifically for that purpose rather than having every beyblade suffer. They already make exclusives.

3. “Discs” This point contradicts the first point. As I said, when you buy an alternative, you want it to be as close to the original product as possible.

4. “No need for an extra mode” The thing about this is, because turbo had a normal mode, you could use it in any stadium. With Hypersphere there’s only one stadium the drivers work as intended in (to my knowledge). And because of there not being a mode change, guess what, you can’t use the driver as like the TT equivalent.

5. “Weird Drivers” The problem isn’t just the shape, it’s the performance as well, as I stated before. Also as I stated before, because these are supposed to be alternatives, I’d like them to look and preform as close to the original product as possible.

Hasbros are super fun, I’m not denying that. But you know what else is fun? Seeing heavy metal Layers clash with rubber layers, being able to change out GT chips, having both TT and Hasbros on par with each other. That’s fun. 

The thing with Hasbro is that they’re too focused on the gimmicks, which makes everything, and everyone, suffer. Now kids who don’t know any better go and get these weak Turbo beyblades. Now I and many others have to hassle around the internet trying to not get ripped off when buying beyblades.

SO in conclusion, is hasbro fun? Yes! I love their ideas and stadiums, but the sacrifice to achieve that “fun” isn’t worth it. Personally, I’d rather have a beyblade that I can use in any stadium, against anyone, including tournaments. If you want to buy Hypersphere, I can’t stop you. But hasbro isn’t getting any more of my money until they fix their issues.

One thing I’ll say is this, please don’t take any of our thoughts about this Hasbro season, or other Hasbro seasons personally, we’re not demeaning your opinion about it, and if you enjoy Hasbros beys then all power to you... but one thing you wanna realize is that the Majority of the members here on the WBO love beyblade and take beyblade very seriously... if we didn’t, we wouldn’t dare put so much time, money, and effort into Tournaments, buying new releases, being organizers, discussing combo theory, etc, etc, with a hint of Etc... and since we take beyblade so seriously, we want nuffin but the Best Sauce, The Pure Sauce, the Original Sauce, Which can only be obtained by using TakaraTomy’s
Products, (as they are the founders, and owners of Beyblade)
And that’s why we don’t really condone anything that’s inferior to it...
If there is an alternative that is on par with the original then of course we would jump on that with no problem, I mean,
Look at the success of the SwitchStrike series here, like I said, there are still SwitchStrike beys that are being used competitively... and are even in Winning combination decks even after almost 3 years have passed, ya kno why? Cuz the SwitchStrike series was, in the ((majority)) of cases just as good as TakaraTomy, and some were even better than TakaraTomy... (I’m looking at you again Balkesh B3... on Br)
And one of the main reasons of SwitchStrike’s success, is cuz
The beys had all the same gimmicks as TT beys at the time, they weighed almost the same, and their performance was on par with the original... it was great alternative to TakaraTomy!

But this new season, just like the “Turribo” series that Hasbruh made, has been gutted to such a high degree that they removed aspects of the beys that made them... Original
(Cho-Z’s Metal fused layers & GT’s 3 part layer with varying weights.... and I’m not even gonna talk about the beys themselves... it’s just too much derp to talk about...)
I mean, cmon... really?! It’s like making a live action Disney movie, And you remove all the original musicals... (and I hate musicals...) or someone making a Transformers movie or show, And they replace Peter Cullen, the Original voice of Optimus Prime, with someone else they think is “better”... or someone making a Sonic The Hedgehog movie, and instead of sticking to the Original design of Sonic, a mobian hedgehog from another world, they instead make him look like some creepy test-tube Manimal that was made in Area 51... it’s just derpy...

So hopefully you understand our plight here...

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sry wrong thread, but its not like hasbro ever had rubber. and for things like dread they sadly dont do much gimmicks anymore, tho I think they do it depending on how complicated it is. there target audience is kids I believe, and they prob dont wanna do anything they think the kids wont know how to use, or not understand.

Hasbro had rubber on multiple occasions. Hasbro just got lazy.

In the Slingshock and Hypersphere universe, there is no need for rubber. The beys wont collide very often in the centre of a stadium, where spin stealing could happen.

Instead the new beys ride the rails. Or they slide on the brink ;-)

Hasbro made 'em lightweight and... ok cheap. Hasbro knows that serious tournament participants will buy TT, anyways. So they dont even try to compete with TT.

Imagine Hasbro beys beating TTs beys... Japanese people would start to import Hasbeys... woot... and TT would simply withdraw the license from Hasbro in response.

DeceasedCrab, please move this to the right thread. Also, what about the fact that they removed the gimmicks from the beys? No rubber on Fafnir for example and also they removed Dread Bahamut’s gimmick.

Sorry I missed this, there was no at symbol before my name so it didn't summon me. Or report the thread and I'll see it.

I don't know, what's the right thread for this discussion? The Hasbro burst release thread? I kind of like it where it is, a big ol wall of text with opinions I don't have to read.

Also, you're trying to respond to a wall of text based on questionable data by using facts. That's not going to work! ?

If you think they're wrong, well... just let them be wrong by themselves in an empty thread. They'll either learn or they won't. They'll learn real fast if they go to a WBO tournament.

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DeceasedCrab, please move this to the right thread. Also, what about the fact that they removed the gimmicks from the beys? No rubber on Fafnir for example and also they removed Dread Bahamut’s gimmick.

Sorry I missed this, there was no at symbol before my name so it didn't summon me.

So that’s how you mention someone in a thread!

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Sorry I missed this, there was no at symbol before my name so it didn't summon me.

So that’s how you mention someone in a thread!

Yeah but if there's spaces in their name you'll need to use at quote name quote.

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